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    1. [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership
    2. Charmaine Maher
    3. Robyn You have to consider OH&S issues in this day and age. All graves are usually dug by machine for several reasons and one of which is so that Grave Diggers do not need to get into the grave to dig it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> To: <AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:17 PM Subject: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership > Another saga from Toowong cemetery. My old Uncle died recently and he was > to be buried with his brother, next to their parents. All was fine until > the early morning before the ceremony when the funeral people rang and said > they cannot bury him there as it is on the side of a hill and they could not > get the digger into the spot. I said can't you dig it by hand and they said > no, not allowed. Sore backs?? > > So I said now if a fine time to tell me, what do we do now. He is a > catholic and wants to be buried in the catholic section, near family, blah > blah, sob, sniffle. They must have felt bad, they originally wanted us to > get a new grave but I told them we didn't have enough money for that, he was > an old soldier, etc. so they offered to give him a new grave, admittedly > right at the bottom of the hill, poor Uncle, for the same price as the > digging up of the old one, quite a large discount, and so they should. > robyndehood > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donny [Dianne]" <donfay11@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:22 PM > Subject: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership > > > > At Toowong Cemetery in Brisbane, they only allow two bodies in most [not > > all] graves. We had understood that this meant that my Mum's wish to > buried > > with them was impossible. > > > > I've since spoken to the Sexton, who said that we can inter the ashes of > as > > many people as we like there, just no more bodies. He also told me that > > unless it's specified otherwise in a will, ownership generally goes to the > > eldest living child, and it's their permission that should be sought. > > > > So , that would be Mum now [she's still with us], and me when she passes > > away. > > > > My question is that, since she is the current 'owner', why would they need > > *my* permission to inter *her* ashes there? > > > > > > > > Donny [Dianne] > > > > http://au.geocities.com/donnyfay/ Henry Descendants > > http://au.geocities.com/diannefay/ Fensom Descendants > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > ================================================================== > > "Please "do not" post virus warnings to the list. > > ================================================================== > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > ================================================================== > "Please "do not" post virus warnings to the list. > ================================================================== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/20/2003 10:31:34
    1. [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership
    2. Hi, re having to dig graves.... I know, I know, but several hours before the funeral was not the time to tell us. Cripes, if I had known I could have dug the damn thing myself. It was not that big a slope and I reckon they could have done it with a small digger, are they dingo diggers? Anyway, too late now. Uncle Matt is right down the bottom of the hill, and at least we do not have to climb in between rocks and grass and weeds to get to him. robyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charmaine Maher" <tcandr@ihug.com.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership > Robyn > > You have to consider OH&S issues in this day and age. All graves are > usually dug by machine for several reasons and one of which is so that Grave > Diggers do not need to get into the grave to dig it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mrshaw@bigpond.com> > To: <AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:17 PM > Subject: [[AUS-CEM]] Re: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership > > > > Another saga from Toowong cemetery. My old Uncle died recently and he was > > to be buried with his brother, next to their parents. All was fine until > > the early morning before the ceremony when the funeral people rang and > said > > they cannot bury him there as it is on the side of a hill and they could > not > > get the digger into the spot. I said can't you dig it by hand and they > said > > no, not allowed. Sore backs?? > > > > So I said now if a fine time to tell me, what do we do now. He is a > > catholic and wants to be buried in the catholic section, near family, blah > > blah, sob, sniffle. They must have felt bad, they originally wanted us to > > get a new grave but I told them we didn't have enough money for that, he > was > > an old soldier, etc. so they offered to give him a new grave, admittedly > > right at the bottom of the hill, poor Uncle, for the same price as the > > digging up of the old one, quite a large discount, and so they should. > > robyndehood > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donny [Dianne]" <donfay11@bigpond.net.au> > > To: <AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:22 PM > > Subject: [[AUS-CEM]] RE: Grave ownership > > > > > > > At Toowong Cemetery in Brisbane, they only allow two bodies in most [not > > > all] graves. We had understood that this meant that my Mum's wish to > > buried > > > with them was impossible. > > > > > > I've since spoken to the Sexton, who said that we can inter the ashes of > > as > > > many people as we like there, just no more bodies. He also told me that > > > unless it's specified otherwise in a will, ownership generally goes to > the > > > eldest living child, and it's their permission that should be sought. > > > > > > So , that would be Mum now [she's still with us], and me when she passes > > > away. > > > > > > My question is that, since she is the current 'owner', why would they > need > > > *my* permission to inter *her* ashes there? > > > > > > > > > > > > Donny [Dianne] > > > > > > http://au.geocities.com/donnyfay/ Henry Descendants > > > http://au.geocities.com/diannefay/ Fensom Descendants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > > ================================================================== > > > "Please "do not" post virus warnings to the list. > > > ================================================================== > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > ================================================================== > > "Please "do not" post virus warnings to the list. > > ================================================================== > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > ================================================================== > Cemetery Records on line:- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~batman/ > ================================================================== > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/20/2003 09:57:36