hello Anne, Yes, this is the same Martin Wenke, Sorry not sure how to contact you off line My address is jessjuba @ yahoo. com. au Thanks Judy Hi Judy, Was your Martin WENKE the father of Thomas born 1875 at Black Dog (Chiltern), Victoria. If so, e-mail me off list as I have something you might be interested in. Cheers Anne Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox