Hi Jo, I plead temporary brain failure re the Pioneer index. I stand corrected. Next problem ? Yours, Garry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Borlands" <theborlands@woosh.co.nz> To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum > Hi Jo, > > The John James and Catherine Alexander mentioned below are buried in the > Fawkner Cemetery - Roman Catholic Compartment G, Grave 1584. > > Catherine Alexander's death registration is: 737, 1930 (Carlton). Father > Murphy, mother Unknown. She was aged 73 years. > A certificate should provide any children's names. > > John James Alexander died in 1925 aged 70. Reg: 9517 (Footscray). Parents > cited as, Thomas Alexander and Cath Murphy. > > A, John Denis Alexander died in 1967 aged 84. Brunswick. Reg: 7068. > Parents > cited as, John James Alexander and Cath Murphy. He also is buried in the > Fawkner Cemetery. > > Merry Christmas. > > Marina > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garry Batt" <garrybatt@gmail.com> > To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum > > >> Hi Jo, >> John James Alexander married Catherine Murphy in 1875 at Castlemaine. >> (Strangely enough her marriage is registered in Melbourne, his in >> Castlemaine ?) >> Marriages usually took place at the brides place of residence. >> The Catherine Alexander (Murphy) who died in 1875 aged 40, death >> registered >> in Indi which is up near Wodonga. >> Her parents are listed as John James MURPHY and Catherine DUDGOW. >> The average age for a female to marry falls between the ages of 18 to 24. >> That would put her birth around 1851 to 1857. >> What makes you think that this is the one that married John James ? >> Both Murphy and Catherine are common Irish names. >> >> The 5 children of John J. and Catherines' births range from 1876 to 1885, >> which is what you would expect from a marriage in 1875. >> All their births took place in Melbourne. Carlton, Hawthorn and Hotham. >> >> I'd have a look at a Catherine Alexander, nee Murphy, who's death is >> registered at Carlton in 1930, aged 73. >> Yours, >> Garry. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bsalter1" <bsalter1@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum >> >> >>> Hi Jo, There is a Thomas Alexander who also married a Catherine Mary >>> Murphy, and their children were born earlier than your Catherine. Could >>> this >>> be the one that died? Also The 3 children for John James & Catherine >>> Murphy >>> were all born after she died. As a Catholic, not even I can believe in >>> that >>> many miracles!! >>> Regards >>> Bern Salter >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: australia-cemeteries-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:australia-cemeteries-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joko >>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:41 AM >>> To: Aus Cem >>> Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum >>> >>> I have a family tree programme that throws up a list of imposibilities >>> on >>> the tree for you to fix, one of them I have no idea what to do with. >>> >>> John Denis Alexander born 1882 in Hotham Reg 23795. His mother >>> Catherine >>> Murhpy Alexander DIED in 1875 in Indi Reg 1875/14347 - now I double >>> checked >>> it was the right couple with the right son on the records - what the >>> heck >>> do >>> I do???? I know Mum's are pretty special people - but, giving birth 7 >>> years >>> after you passed is a heck of a trick, can any one help, Kind Regards >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are lucky Garry, mine is full time brain failure! :-) Dorne Phefley SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Batt" <garrybatt@gmail.com> To: "Borlands" <theborlands@woosh.co.nz>; <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 20 December 2010 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum > Hi Jo, > I plead temporary brain failure re the Pioneer index. > I stand corrected. > > Next problem ? > Yours, > Garry. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Borlands" <theborlands@woosh.co.nz> > To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum > > >> Hi Jo, >> >> The John James and Catherine Alexander mentioned below are buried in the >> Fawkner Cemetery - Roman Catholic Compartment G, Grave 1584. >> >> Catherine Alexander's death registration is: 737, 1930 (Carlton). >> Father >> Murphy, mother Unknown. She was aged 73 years. >> A certificate should provide any children's names. >> >> John James Alexander died in 1925 aged 70. Reg: 9517 (Footscray). Parents >> cited as, Thomas Alexander and Cath Murphy. >> >> A, John Denis Alexander died in 1967 aged 84. Brunswick. Reg: 7068. >> Parents >> cited as, John James Alexander and Cath Murphy. He also is buried in the >> Fawkner Cemetery. >> >> Merry Christmas. >> >> Marina >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Garry Batt" <garrybatt@gmail.com> >> To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum >> >> >>> Hi Jo, >>> John James Alexander married Catherine Murphy in 1875 at Castlemaine. >>> (Strangely enough her marriage is registered in Melbourne, his in >>> Castlemaine ?) >>> Marriages usually took place at the brides place of residence. >>> The Catherine Alexander (Murphy) who died in 1875 aged 40, death >>> registered >>> in Indi which is up near Wodonga. >>> Her parents are listed as John James MURPHY and Catherine DUDGOW. >>> The average age for a female to marry falls between the ages of 18 to >>> 24. >>> That would put her birth around 1851 to 1857. >>> What makes you think that this is the one that married John James ? >>> Both Murphy and Catherine are common Irish names. >>> >>> The 5 children of John J. and Catherines' births range from 1876 to >>> 1885, >>> which is what you would expect from a marriage in 1875. >>> All their births took place in Melbourne. Carlton, Hawthorn and Hotham. >>> >>> I'd have a look at a Catherine Alexander, nee Murphy, who's death is >>> registered at Carlton in 1930, aged 73. >>> Yours, >>> Garry. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "bsalter1" <bsalter1@optusnet.com.au> >>> To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum >>> >>> >>>> Hi Jo, There is a Thomas Alexander who also married a Catherine Mary >>>> Murphy, and their children were born earlier than your Catherine. Could >>>> this >>>> be the one that died? Also The 3 children for John James & Catherine >>>> Murphy >>>> were all born after she died. As a Catholic, not even I can believe in >>>> that >>>> many miracles!! >>>> Regards >>>> Bern Salter >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: australia-cemeteries-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:australia-cemeteries-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joko >>>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:41 AM >>>> To: Aus Cem >>>> Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Connundrum >>>> >>>> I have a family tree programme that throws up a list of imposibilities >>>> on >>>> the tree for you to fix, one of them I have no idea what to do with. >>>> >>>> John Denis Alexander born 1882 in Hotham Reg 23795. His mother >>>> Catherine >>>> Murhpy Alexander DIED in 1875 in Indi Reg 1875/14347 - now I double >>>> checked >>>> it was the right couple with the right son on the records - what the >>>> heck >>>> do >>>> I do???? I know Mum's are pretty special people - but, giving birth 7 >>>> years >>>> after you passed is a heck of a trick, can any one help, Kind Regards >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 5716 (20101219) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Thanks to all who investigated and helped. I'll dig further with certs etc but I believe the 1930 Cath must be the correct one, although the parents names dont' match - so I'll just delete parents until PROOF comes along. Merry Christmas to all, and I hope a LOT of your brick walls fall down next year. Kindest Regards and thanks, JO.