Kym Please................Pretty Please!! Take you CAPS LOCK OFF It is considerd SHOUTING and its damn hard to read. Freda ----- Original Message ----- From: "kym" <kymh@iprimus.com.au> To: <kraymond@iprimus.com.au>; <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Copyright violations (Was:AustCemeteries Index Website) > HI KERRY AND TO OTHERS ON THE LIST. > FIRSTLY, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT MY ORIGINAL EMAIL WAS MEANT ONLY FOR > RAYMOND HENDERSON. IT WAS AN ERROR ON MY PART THAT IT WAS SENT TO THE LIST > INSTEAD OF HIS PERSONAL EMAIL. I APOLOGISE FOR THIS. > AS MENTIONED THE ONLY PHOTOS FROM MY OWN SITE THAT WERE USED, WERE DONATED > PHOTOS AND ONLY A COUPLE. > NONE OF MY PERSONAL PHOTOS WERE COPIED AND CLAIMED AS HIS. > THE ISSUE HERE AND THE REASON FOR MY EMAIL TO RAYMOND WAS TO LET HIM KNOW > THAT THIS MAN HAS COPIED QUITE A NUMBER OF PHOTOS FROM RAYMONDS OWN WEB > SITE. FULL CEMETERIES IN FACT AND PHOTOS THAT WERE DONATED TO RAYMOND FROM > HIS CONTACTS. > NOW, IF HE DOES NOT WISH TO PURSUE THIS ISSUE THEN THAT IS HIS CHOICE. I > CHOSE NOT TO CONTACT THIS INDIVIDUAL MYSELF BECAUSE I DID NOT THINK THAT > IT > WOULD MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO HIM, IN LIGHT OF HIS EMAIL TO MY FRIEND. > HAD HE REQUESTED TO USE THE COUPLE OF CHURCH PHOTOS FROM MY SITE FOR THIS > OTHER WEBSITE, I WOULD HAVE SAID YES AS LONG AS THE RIGHT PERSON GOT > CREDIT > FOR TAKING THEM AND I WOULD HAVE CONTACTED MY FRIENDS TO LET THEM KNOW I > HAD > DONE THAT SO THERE WOULD BE NO MISUNDERSTANDING. ANYONE REQUESTING ANY > PHOTOS FROM MY FILES CAN USE THE PHOTOS AS THEY LIKE FOR THEIR FAMILY > TREES > ETC. > I DO NOT ASK THAT I AM ACCREDITED FOR TAKING THE PHOTOS WHEN I SUPPLY > REQUESTED HEADSTONES > OR ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS DONATED PHOTOS TO MY SITE BECAUSE THEIR NAME IS > LISTED ALREADY ON THE WEB PAGE FOR HAVING DONATED THEM. > KYM > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Raymond" <kraymond@iprimus.com.au> > To: <australia-cemeteries@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Copyright violations (Was: > AustCemeteries Index Website) > > >> >> As someone with a lot of cemetery photos on the WWW, can I suggest this >> as >> the following course of action. >> >> First step. Be clear in your mind what you actually want. Are you upset >> that >> the photos are on this other WWW site? Or are you upset because the guy >> didn't ask you first? If he had asked you first, would you have said Yes? >> So, what do you want? That he asks you in future? That he removes the >> photos? In communicating, it is important to be clear about exactly what >> you >> are asking for. Just communicating that you are upset about the situation >> isn't helpful. >> >> Second step. Communicate what you want. >> >> Many people don't stop and think about issues like ownership and >> copyright >> on the WWW. Especially in hobbies like family history where people often >> do >> provide the data for other people to use and re-use as they will. So, the >> first thing to do is to contact this guy and point out nicely (WITHOUT >> UPPER >> CASE SHOUTING) that he has put your photos on this site without asking >> you >> and will he please do [whatever it is that you want him to do]. Very >> likely >> he is a reasonable person and will cooperate with you, and you will have >> educated him into the bargain about what to do in future. Note if you >> contact him in an aggressive way, you are much more likely to "get his >> back >> up" and he is much less likely to cooperate. That's human nature. >> >> Third step. Escalate. >> >> If he does not respond in a reasonable time (give him a few days, not >> everyone reads email or checks comments on Web sites every day) or he >> refuses your reasonable request, then you should escalate your issue to >> FindAGrave (in this case or the ISP or site administrator as >> appropriate). >> Again, DON'T YELL. Just tell the facts politely: your photos are on the >> site, you didn't give your permission, please remove them. The FAQ >> suggests >> that they are not tolerant of this kind of behaviour and will probably >> assist you. Note using more neutral language like "issue" rather than >> more >> stronger terms like "complaint" is again a way to increase the likelihood >> that they will help. >> >> I agree with you that you should confine your comments to the photos that >> you took yourself, as they are the only ones that you can say with total >> confidence are there without permission (even though you may suspect it >> is >> the case with other photos). >> >> Kerry >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >