Hi all Does anyone have details of this Cemetery, I am looking for Mary Conroy d 1980. thanks Carmel

Many thanks to everyone who responded to my CRISMANICH enquiry - I now have lots more leads to follow and hope we can find something positive. Thanks lots, Loretta

Thanks again Garry - I've used electoral rolls before but mostly for 19th century folk. I was delighted to hear they're alphabetical for recent years - with no idea AT ALL of where Riccardo might have lived in Queenland the electoral rolls looked like a fairly daunting task, but I'm going to the SLV tomorrow and see what I can find. How exciting - if I can find a location I can make more localised enquiries! Call me an optimist, I might find the fellow who was the original starting point of this search - Rico's brother Claudio CRISMANICH. He was last heard of about 16 years ago when he's believed to have gone to the Philippines... Can't wait to get to the SLV! Thanks again, Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Batt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > Hi Loretta, > just for general information, the Victorian State library holds the > electoral rolls for most states on microfiche dating back to 1903. > Up until around 1991 they were listed by polling place and after that they > are in alphabetical order.

Loretta, Have you checked the Brisbane City Council site for Riccardo. The site covers burials, not cremations. www.brisbane.qld.gov.au Cheers, Jules. [email protected] -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 863 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Good Afternoon All, I have a Septimus RICHARDSON who died in 1933 in the Parramatta district. I am hoping that someone has access to any burial records of any cemeteries in the Parramatta area. Many thanks. Anne H.

Hi Loretta, just for general information, the Victorian State library holds the electoral rolls for most states on microfiche dating back to 1903. Up until around 1991 they were listed by polling place and after that they are in alphabetical order. Years ago I remember going to the post office in a country town and looking up the local electoral roll for someone I was researching. New electoral rolls are usually issued after every Federal election so they are reasonably up to date. Good luck in your searching. Yours, Garry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > Thanks Garry, > > I've just joined a Queensland mailing list so I'll give it a try. Might > also > see if the State Library in Vic holds anything along those lines. > > Cheers, > Loretta > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garry Batt" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > > >> Hi All, >> it may be worthwhile asking if someone can look up Crismanich on the >> Queensland electoral rolls over the last 12 years. >> Yours, >> Garry. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Garry, I've just joined a Queensland mailing list so I'll give it a try. Might also see if the State Library in Vic holds anything along those lines. Cheers, Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Batt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > Hi All, > it may be worthwhile asking if someone can look up Crismanich on the > Queensland electoral rolls over the last 12 years. > Yours, > Garry.

Many thanks to everyone who has replied to my query - I had a feeling it was not going to be an easy search. The family does have its fair share of skeletons, but I hope enough time has gone by to allow us to find some answers without incurring any further damage or bad feeling. I really appreciate all your help and suggestions - mailing list people are wonderful! When (not IF!) we find some solutions I'll post a message to this list. Thank you all, Loretta & John

Hi All, it may be worthwhile asking if someone can look up Crismanich on the Queensland electoral rolls over the last 12 years. Yours, Garry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > Loretta, > Have had sort of the same thing in my dads family, his mother ran of with > a travelling salesman who she was pregnant too, leaving dad behind. When I > started looking at my gg grandparents I had contact with a family memebr > who didnt know about his g aunts marriage and son before she had the last > son. Caused quite a problem especially when I sent him the certificates to > prove what I had been saying. Apparently it had been covered up for a few > decades. They say you should never start a family history unless you're > prepared for a few skeletons in the cupboard. And I certainly have some in > mine. It sounds like you might have one too. Good luck in finding him. > Barb > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Loretta, Have had sort of the same thing in my dads family, his mother ran of with a travelling salesman who she was pregnant too, leaving dad behind. When I started looking at my gg grandparents I had contact with a family memebr who didnt know about his g aunts marriage and son before she had the last son. Caused quite a problem especially when I sent him the certificates to prove what I had been saying. Apparently it had been covered up for a few decades. They say you should never start a family history unless you're prepared for a few skeletons in the cupboard. And I certainly have some in mine. It sounds like you might have one too. Good luck in finding him. Barb

Thanks Barbara, Riccardo Bernard was the father of the Riccardo (Rico) in question - you've probably gathered the family dynamics from the other messages and replies posted to the list. I'm hoping that documents ordered from the National Archives might give us some clues - they were "not examined" last week but I applied for access and they've been cleared - you never know! Many thanks for your reply, Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland >A Riccardo Bernard Crismanich died 1976 in Bairnsdale aged 70, parents >Jack and Augusta Cossar. Augusta died 1965 aged 86. Is the one you are >lookingfor? Age doesnt match though. > > Barb > > > > > >

Thanks Carmel, That's my brother, who is a nephew of the said Riccardo. He's the one who provided what little we know of Rico. Researching theis name is proving to be quite a challenge - many thanks for your reply. Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > Loretta > If you check the white pages there is one living in Wonthagi but seems to > be > the only on in australia > Carmel > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas > Family > Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 2:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > > Hi all, > > This is REALLY a shot in the dark. I'm trying to find the death or burial > of > Riccardo CRISMANICH, born 1929. He lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, after > coming to Aus with his parents and siblings in 1950 - the National > Archives > holds documents recording them as a "displaced" family, nationality > Yugoslavian - then he moved to Queensland. He worked at various times as a > concreter, tree feller and jack of all trades. A remaining family member > believes he died in Queensland about 12 years ago but doesn't know a > location. Accessible indexes don't go that far and I'm not a next of kin, > so > doubt if I'd be able to apply for a death certificate that recent. I > really > don't know where to start, but in the past this last has been very > helpful, > so it's worth a try! If anyone recognises the CRISMANICH name (in any > context) I'd love to hear from you, or if you're searching local records > and > can keep an eye peeled I'd be very grateful. > > Thanks lots, > Loretta > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Chris, Thanks for your reply. You're not kidding when you say it's a less common name than Smith or Jones! The only one listed in Aus phone books is my half-brother John in Wonthaggi, who I'm doing this for. I haven't yet put a message on the Gippsland list because John's aunt, sister of the Riccardo in question, still lives in Bairnsdale and I didn't want to upset anyone. But she doesn't speak about Rico - John phoned her recently to see if she could provide a more specific location in Queensland and she hung up on him. I guess that gives us carte blanche to go ahead with whatever we can do to find out ourselves. So I will do that thing, post a message on the Gippsland list! Thanks lots, Loretta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Ward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > G'day Loretta, > > There are people of that name in Gippsland now. As the name is a bit less > common than Smith or Jones they could be related and may be able to help. > I'd suggest you place this same message on the Gippsland list. They're a > pretty switched on lot and have been going for 10 years. > [email protected] but log on in the normal fashion. > Good luck > > Regards, > Chris in Adelaide > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas > Family > Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 2:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland > > Hi all, > > This is REALLY a shot in the dark. I'm trying to find the death or burial > of > > Riccardo CRISMANICH, born 1929. He lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, after > coming to Aus with his parents and siblings in 1950 - the National > Archives > holds documents recording them as a "displaced" family, nationality > Yugoslavian - then he moved to Queensland. He worked at various times as a > concreter, tree feller and jack of all trades. A remaining family member > believes he died in Queensland about 12 years ago but doesn't know a > location. Accessible indexes don't go that far and I'm not a next of kin, > so > > doubt if I'd be able to apply for a death certificate that recent. I > really > don't know where to start, but in the past this last has been very > helpful, > so it's worth a try! If anyone recognises the CRISMANICH name (in any > context) I'd love to hear from you, or if you're searching local records > and > > can keep an eye peeled I'd be very grateful. > > Thanks lots, > Loretta > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

A Riccardo Bernard Crismanich died 1976 in Bairnsdale aged 70, parents Jack and Augusta Cossar. Augusta died 1965 aged 86. Is the one you are lookingfor? Age doesnt match though. Barb

Loretta If you check the white pages there is one living in Wonthagi but seems to be the only on in australia Carmel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Family Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 2:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland Hi all, This is REALLY a shot in the dark. I'm trying to find the death or burial of Riccardo CRISMANICH, born 1929. He lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, after coming to Aus with his parents and siblings in 1950 - the National Archives holds documents recording them as a "displaced" family, nationality Yugoslavian - then he moved to Queensland. He worked at various times as a concreter, tree feller and jack of all trades. A remaining family member believes he died in Queensland about 12 years ago but doesn't know a location. Accessible indexes don't go that far and I'm not a next of kin, so doubt if I'd be able to apply for a death certificate that recent. I really don't know where to start, but in the past this last has been very helpful, so it's worth a try! If anyone recognises the CRISMANICH name (in any context) I'd love to hear from you, or if you're searching local records and can keep an eye peeled I'd be very grateful. Thanks lots, Loretta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, This is REALLY a shot in the dark. I'm trying to find the death or burial of Riccardo CRISMANICH, born 1929. He lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, after coming to Aus with his parents and siblings in 1950 - the National Archives holds documents recording them as a "displaced" family, nationality Yugoslavian - then he moved to Queensland. He worked at various times as a concreter, tree feller and jack of all trades. A remaining family member believes he died in Queensland about 12 years ago but doesn't know a location. Accessible indexes don't go that far and I'm not a next of kin, so doubt if I'd be able to apply for a death certificate that recent. I really don't know where to start, but in the past this last has been very helpful, so it's worth a try! If anyone recognises the CRISMANICH name (in any context) I'd love to hear from you, or if you're searching local records and can keep an eye peeled I'd be very grateful. Thanks lots, Loretta

G'day Loretta, There are people of that name in Gippsland now. As the name is a bit less common than Smith or Jones they could be related and may be able to help. I'd suggest you place this same message on the Gippsland list. They're a pretty switched on lot and have been going for 10 years. [email protected] but log on in the normal fashion. Good luck Regards, Chris in Adelaide -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Family Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] CRISMANICH burial in Queensland Hi all, This is REALLY a shot in the dark. I'm trying to find the death or burial of Riccardo CRISMANICH, born 1929. He lived in Bairnsdale, Victoria, after coming to Aus with his parents and siblings in 1950 - the National Archives holds documents recording them as a "displaced" family, nationality Yugoslavian - then he moved to Queensland. He worked at various times as a concreter, tree feller and jack of all trades. A remaining family member believes he died in Queensland about 12 years ago but doesn't know a location. Accessible indexes don't go that far and I'm not a next of kin, so doubt if I'd be able to apply for a death certificate that recent. I really don't know where to start, but in the past this last has been very helpful, so it's worth a try! If anyone recognises the CRISMANICH name (in any context) I'd love to hear from you, or if you're searching local records and can keep an eye peeled I'd be very grateful. Thanks lots, Loretta ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks David, No that's not her but it was worth a try. Didn't think I could be lucky TWICE in one morning. Kerri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D. Weatherill Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 9:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Cleveland Kerri; The only Ann Hughes I can locate is an Ann Hughes who died 13 Dec, 1841, aged 47 years, wife of John Hughes of Phillip St, Sydney. I don't think this is your Ann. Still your Ann may be in grave without a monumental inscription. Cheers, David At 08:42 AM 17/01/2009, you wrote: >David, > >May I impose on your time again? > >Is his wife's name there anywhere? She died 14 December 1860 and her name >was Ann Hughes (nee Goldie). > >If her name is in your books I would be very grateful to know what >inscription was on her tombstone if possible. > >Thanks again, > >Kerri ------------------------------------------- David Weatherill Bundoora Victoria Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kerri; The only Ann Hughes I can locate is an Ann Hughes who died 13 Dec, 1841, aged 47 years, wife of John Hughes of Phillip St, Sydney. I don't think this is your Ann. Still your Ann may be in grave without a monumental inscription. Cheers, David At 08:42 AM 17/01/2009, you wrote: >David, > >May I impose on your time again? > >Is his wife's name there anywhere? She died 14 December 1860 and her name >was Ann Hughes (nee Goldie). > >If her name is in your books I would be very grateful to know what >inscription was on her tombstone if possible. > >Thanks again, > >Kerri ------------------------------------------- David Weatherill Bundoora Victoria Australia

David, May I impose on your time again? Is his wife's name there anywhere? She died 14 December 1860 and her name was Ann Hughes (nee Goldie). If her name is in your books I would be very grateful to know what inscription was on her tombstone if possible. Thanks again, Kerri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kerriferguson Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 8:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Cleveland David, Thank you SO much! I didn't think I had a hope of anyone being able to give me the information. The spelling does waver between the two on other documentation (- that's 'cause he was Irish and couldn't speak proper!!!!) but that's definitely him. I am very grateful for you going to the trouble of looking it up for me and so quickly!!!! It is MUCH appreciated. Kind regards, Kerri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D. Weatherill Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 8:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUSTRALIA-CEMETERIES] Cleveland Kerri; In "Sydney Burial ground 1819-1901 and History of Sydney's Early Cemeteries from 1788", by Keith A. Johnson and Malcolm R. Sainty, Library of Australian History, Sydney, 2001 there is the following noted: Appendix 3 - Monumental Inscriptions - at Bunnerong: 1247. Barnard HUGHES, died 6th July 1840 aged 68 years. I checked the spelling at it was Barnard, not Bernard. I hope this helps. David At 06:17 AM 17/01/2009, you wrote: >Does anyone have a list of graves ( I believe there is a book that was in >print with the information?) from the old Cemetery in SYDNEY, Australia >which was where Central Railway now stands? > >I am looking for a death around 1840 for one BERNARD HUGHES. > >The Cemetery was bulldozed and some of the graves moved to other locations >but I have reason to believe that this one was not moved in the designated >time. > >Is there information anywhere about who was buried there originally and what >was written on the tombstones? > >Thank you for any assistance > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------- David Weatherill Bundoora Victoria Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message