Can I make another suggestion? Do you know the ancestor list system? Ancestor list = English; Ahnenliste - German ; Quartiers - French. In principle it is a system that can display _all_ ancestors of one person. Or one person and his/her siblings. The frame work are numbers and when you grasp the system, it is great. The numbers tell you how people are related to each other. There is one pretty universally accepted version, but there is also an addition to it. Lets start with the Ancestor list. How many children do you have? Lets say three. 1a.say son 1b.say daughter 1c.say son by each you give names, dates of birth and place of birth. And photographs And here it starts. To find any person's father, you double that person's number. To find the mother, you add one to the father's number. and so. 2.your husband, you add dates place names and photographs, join with marriage date and place 3. yourself -----again add dates and place names and photographs 4.your husband's father 5.your husband's mother 6.your father 7. your mother 8.your husband's paternal grandfather 9.your husaband's paternal grandmother 10.your husband's maternal grandfather 11.your husband's maternal grandmother 12.your paternal grandfather---------and so on. If you do not know someone, you make room for the number, and space for details because one day you may find those details. You will find that all even numbers are male, and all uneven (perhaps except nr.1) are female. When you say my ancestor nr.39----we know that is a female, married to 38, mother of 19, and daughter of 78 and 79. It may sound confusing, perhaps I am not clearly explaining. But using it is great, you can decide how much space (and how many photographs) you allow each person. Now the additional segment. 1 2a.your husband's brother 2b.your husband's sister 2. your husband 2.your husband's sister 3a.your brother 3b.your sister 3 yourself 3c.your brother And so you go on, and again, you can descide how much space (and photographs you give each person. With the siblings of ancestors you can add their children. 2a.your husbands brother, born, married XYX children: . 1.born etc, married XYX children a. born etc b.born etc. 2b.Your husband's sister, born married children etc. Have fun. I have only once seen someone using both systems together and it is superb. Best wishes Leo van de Pas Canberra, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <tellig@ozemail.com.au> To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [AUS] Making A Family History Photo Album > Thank you Leo, > I had a feeling that if I rushed into it I would hit a few problems later. > I > have my FTM records which include photos and some stories. I also have a > password protected web site which I use as a backup for my FH but that > also > includes stories and photos. > I have found that the kids don't seem to have the interest &/or the > patience > to plough through it all. Hopefully that will change later. Now for myself > I > would love to have an encyclopaedia. > > I am nowhere near the end of my search so I think that I need to have > something a little simpler for the album. I would like to pass on the > photos-just copies for now. I will keep the originals. > I thought to set up the album with the first page being the child then > next > pages for the parents then grandparents etc As I get further back and > don't > have photos I would put in names and dates and perhaps a picture of the > village or village church or whatever I can find. Sometimes the photo of > the > gravestone. I was toying with the idea of putting in copies of > certificates. > I was also thinking of a simplified family tree. Just the direct line and > their siblings. > > Perhaps it may spark their interest if they don't have to plough through a > few thousand names. > > How does that sound? > > Regards > Lena > > > > Subject: Re Making A Family History Photo Album > > >> Dear Lena, >> >> It depends on what you want to include. Only photographs? Any text? Any >> reference as to how these people are related to each other? >> >> What kind of album do you intend to use? Do you want to enter the >> original >> photographs? Or one copy for each of your children? >> >> You should try to make a plan of action, before you start as changing > midway >> can be disappointing. >> >> Now a question, if you make a loose page system can you find a good >> bookbinder? In this case I like to tell what I did. >> >> I wanted knowledge and photographs and did a lot of work before I started >> thinking of the end product. >> Basically I made a family encyclopeadia. I think preserving family >> photographs is important but as important is knowledge. >> >> I used a whole page for an event-----one page far each person involved, > even >> if it was only one sentence.. I had a description for a funeral, >> including >> the names of those who attended. I would make a page for each family > member >> : On that and that day he/she attended the funeral of xyz. Then I placed >> these pages in alphabetical order, then they attended a wedding, then one >> person won a prize, anything, but anything. One person ended up with over > 29 >> pages, and as these pages were in time order, I had small biographies. >> >> As each person has their alphabetical place, you can put in uncles, >> aunts, >> first cousins, even people who are not related but who are important to > the >> family. >> >> Then when I thought (I was wrong) I had all that there was to be found, > only >> then did I start with making proper pages. I took a person (in > alphabetical >> order) and started to make pages, on the top the name of the person, with >> when and where born, and - importantly - who were the parents of this >> person. Then I would type the information and so the many pages became >> considerably less, at the same tyme I plotted open spaces for photographs >> for _that_ person. Then I printed that page ones only, with photo corners > I >> placed the photographs on the appropriate place. Only then did I >> photocopy >> that page 10 times (this was in the 1980s).. If you work with computers > and >> scanners, you can have colour portraits as well. >> >> Making an encyclopeadia gives a wider choice of whom you can include. If > you >> start with one ancestor, then his/her children, then grandchildren you > deny >> yourself the chance of including in-laws, or even parents of in-laws. >> >> I hope I made sense. I can only wish you much success and I am glad to > hear >> you want to preserve those photographs----but think also of the stories > :-) >> >> With best wishes >> Leo van de Pas >> Canberra, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUSTRALIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I haven't come across that numbering system before leo. Sounds logical. I will try it out with some of the ancestors & see if I have actually got the hang of it or just think I have !. Regards Lena ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo van de Pas" <leovdpas@netspeed.com.au> To: <tellig@ozemail.com.au>; <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [AUS] Making A Family History Photo Album > Can I make another suggestion? Do you know the ancestor list system? > > Ancestor list = English; Ahnenliste - German ; Quartiers - French. > > In principle it is a system that can display _all_ ancestors of one person. > Or one person and his/her siblings. > The frame work are numbers and when you grasp the system, it is great. The > numbers tell you how people are related to each other. There is one pretty > universally accepted version, but there is also an addition to it. > > Lets start with the Ancestor list. How many children do you have? Lets say > three. > > 1a.say son > 1b.say daughter > 1c.say son > > by each you give names, dates of birth and place of birth. And photographs > > And here it starts. To find any person's father, you double that person's > number. To find the mother, you add one to the father's number. > and so. > > 2.your husband, you add dates place names and photographs, > join with marriage date and place > 3. yourself -----again add dates and place names and photographs > > 4.your husband's father > 5.your husband's mother > > 6.your father > 7. your mother > > 8.your husband's paternal grandfather > 9.your husaband's paternal grandmother > 10.your husband's maternal grandfather > 11.your husband's maternal grandmother > > 12.your paternal grandfather---------and so on. > > If you do not know someone, you make room for the number, and space for > details because one day you may find those details. > You will find that all even numbers are male, and all uneven (perhaps except > nr.1) are female. > When you say my ancestor nr.39----we know that is a female, married to 38, > mother of 19, and daughter of 78 and 79. > > It may sound confusing, perhaps I am not clearly explaining. But using it is > great, you can decide how much space (and how many photographs) you allow > each person. > > > Now the additional segment. > > 1 > > 2a.your husband's brother > 2b.your husband's sister > 2. your husband > 2.your husband's sister > > 3a.your brother > 3b.your sister > 3 yourself > 3c.your brother > > And so you go on, and again, you can descide how much space (and photographs > you give each person. > With the siblings of ancestors you can add their children. > > 2a.your husbands brother, born, married XYX > children: . > 1.born etc, married XYX > children > a. born etc > b.born etc. > 2b.Your husband's sister, born married > children etc. > > Have fun. I have only once seen someone using both systems together and it > is superb. > Best wishes > Leo van de Pas > Canberra, Australia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tellig@ozemail.com.au> > To: <GENANZ-L@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [AUS] Making A Family History Photo Album > > > > Thank you Leo, > > I had a feeling that if I rushed into it I would hit a few problems later. > > I > > have my FTM records which include photos and some stories. I also have a > > password protected web site which I use as a backup for my FH but that > > also > > includes stories and photos. > > I have found that the kids don't seem to have the interest &/or the > > patience > > to plough through it all. Hopefully that will change later. Now for myself > > I > > would love to have an encyclopaedia. > > > > I am nowhere near the end of my search so I think that I need to have > > something a little simpler for the album. I would like to pass on the > > photos-just copies for now. I will keep the originals. > > I thought to set up the album with the first page being the child then > > next > > pages for the parents then grandparents etc As I get further back and > > don't > > have photos I would put in names and dates and perhaps a picture of the > > village or village church or whatever I can find. Sometimes the photo of > > the > > gravestone. I was toying with the idea of putting in copies of > > certificates. > > I was also thinking of a simplified family tree. Just the direct line and > > their siblings. > > > > Perhaps it may spark their interest if they don't have to plough through a > > few thousand names. > > > > How does that sound? > > > > Regards > > Lena > > > > > > > > Subject: Re Making A Family History Photo Album > > > > > >> Dear Lena, > >> > >> It depends on what you want to include. Only photographs? Any text? Any > >> reference as to how these people are related to each other? > >> > >> What kind of album do you intend to use? Do you want to enter the > >> original > >> photographs? Or one copy for each of your children? > >> > >> You should try to make a plan of action, before you start as changing > > midway > >> can be disappointing. > >> > >> Now a question, if you make a loose page system can you find a good > >> bookbinder? In this case I like to tell what I did. > >> > >> I wanted knowledge and photographs and did a lot of work before I started > >> thinking of the end product. > >> Basically I made a family encyclopeadia. I think preserving family > >> photographs is important but as important is knowledge. > >> > >> I used a whole page for an event-----one page far each person involved, > > even > >> if it was only one sentence.. I had a description for a funeral, > >> including > >> the names of those who attended. I would make a page for each family > > member > >> : On that and that day he/she attended the funeral of xyz. Then I placed > >> these pages in alphabetical order, then they attended a wedding, then one > >> person won a prize, anything, but anything. One person ended up with over > > 29 > >> pages, and as these pages were in time order, I had small biographies. > >> > >> As each person has their alphabetical place, you can put in uncles, > >> aunts, > >> first cousins, even people who are not related but who are important to > > the > >> family. > >> > >> Then when I thought (I was wrong) I had all that there was to be found, > > only > >> then did I start with making proper pages. I took a person (in > > alphabetical > >> order) and started to make pages, on the top the name of the person, with > >> when and where born, and - importantly - who were the parents of this > >> person. Then I would type the information and so the many pages became > >> considerably less, at the same tyme I plotted open spaces for photographs > >> for _that_ person. Then I printed that page ones only, with photo corners > > I > >> placed the photographs on the appropriate place. Only then did I > >> photocopy > >> that page 10 times (this was in the 1980s).. If you work with computers > > and > >> scanners, you can have colour portraits as well. > >> > >> Making an encyclopeadia gives a wider choice of whom you can include. If > > you > >> start with one ancestor, then his/her children, then grandchildren you > > deny > >> yourself the chance of including in-laws, or even parents of in-laws. > >> > >> I hope I made sense. I can only wish you much success and I am glad to > > hear > >> you want to preserve those photographs----but think also of the stories > > :-) > >> > >> With best wishes > >> Leo van de Pas > >> Canberra, Australia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AUSTRALIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >