At 09:11 PM 3/01/01 +1100, Kathy & Peter Osborne wrote: Kathy >This is a general question. >Do we include in out family tree children who died at birth eg. still born. > These children are given full burials these days! Are you recording details about isolated individuals or a record of events in your ancestors' lives. A still born child would have effected the whole family for most of a year and maybe longer.. A particular case - Last year a friend asked if I could find the burial site of her stillborn child from about 40 years ago. She was ill for a few months after and the child had been whisked out of her hands at birth and buried. The doctor advised that she would not be able to have any more children so they adopted the next. Fortuntely the doctor was wrong and she had three more of her own children. For 40 years she has been living with her memory of it and the question of what had been done. Gary =================== Gary Luke feraltek@zeta.org.au fax +61-2-9519-9907 Sydney, Australia