Some Tickets of Leave issued to NSW convicts 1834 http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/scons34c.htm all the best Jenny Fawcett

At a place in Kent called Harrietsham, beside the A20 road to Dover, there is a small commemorative stone with this inscription: The trees lining this bypass road were planted in memory of Sir John Alexander Cockburn, High Commissioner of Australia, 1st November 1930. Bill Piper Staplehurst, Kent, England (Melburnian in exile)

Dear Listers I have a death certificate for a man who died in February 1895 at CARGO, NSW. He was a farmer and lived in Cargo. His burial place was given as Church of England Cemetery, CARGO. Minister - William COWAN. The reference book Parish Registers in Australia by Nick Vine Hall has been searched but there's no mention of CARGO cemetery. I wonder if "CARGO" cemetery had a different title - Otherwise assume this man was buried in a field, under a tree, near Cargo! Please can anyone guide me in the right direction? Many thanks. from Rosie Ritchie, safe and dry in Selsey [Tornado-country]!

Due to some new information and a correction, I find myself tracing the name Thornton in Victoria, circa 1870 a Mary Jane Thornton (from Ireland) married Charles Chessell b.1841 Their known children are: Margaret Eliza b. 1873; Rhoda b. 1874; Rachel b. 1875; Timothy b.1877; Mary Ellen b. 1879 if anyone else is tracing these families, I'd be keen to share information... Thanks AD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Adam Davis mailto:arddhu@hotmail.com genealogy mailto:aseanchai@hotmail.com http://arddhu.homestead.com/awd.html Telephone: +61 2 9130 7108 Bondi Beach - Sydney - Australia Researching Wright - Bega, Cundletown; Cole - Bega, Moruya; Davis, Solomon - Kent, UK, Tasmania; Benjamin - Tasmania; Barker and Bell - Braidwood and Cootamundra; Barker - Essex, UK; Bell - Lincolnshire, UK; Loasby - Northamptonshire, UK; Jones - Hants, Leicester, UK; Ayling, Chessell, Cornford, Fellows - Sussex, UK. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

author is June Factor ----- Original Message ----- From: Rummery <wales@emirates.net.ae> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:04 Subject: Book request > Hi everyone, > > I am after a copy of a book by a Mr Factor in 1988 titled "Captain Cook > Chased A Chook" about children in Australia. > > Any help in finding a copy would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Debbi - Dubai, UAE > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Australian Prisoners of War > http://www.southernx.com.au/pow.html > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

Re: my earlier posting! Is there an expert on the Crimea on the list? Now I'm really confused. Have found this reference: Brevet-Major John Macdonald - 89th Foot - died of disease - 15 Jan. 1855 'Sacred to the memory of Bt Major John Macdonald 89 Regt. who died Janry 15th 1855 from exposure in the trenches before Sebastopol.' Same date - same regiment -same surname - different Christian names? My first message reads: I am looking for biographical references to "Major George Duntze MACDONALD of Her Majesty's 89th. Regiment, who was killed on 15 January 1855 in the lines before Sebastopol in Crimea." [He was the brother of Captain Owen Macdonald of the East India Company]. Does anyone know of or have family connections to these MacDonalds, or ... of any references to George Macdonald in military literature. Please contact me if you can help. Thanks. Kind regards, Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennifer Lambert Tracey HERITAGE ARCHAEOLOGY Archaeological & Heritage Assessment Consultants PO Box 4265 KINGSTON ACT 2604 AUSTRALIA Tel / Fax: (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel: 0419 011 860 http://www.heritagearchaeology.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Bryson, Thank you VERY much for the background information on the NSW end of the program. Now I need to find out more about the England end of things. From your summary, it would certainly seem to me that records could easily exist showing the names, etc., of the people who came to NSW under this program. Where would you suggest that I start in searching for such records? Regards, Joe At 06:21 AM 10/31/00 +1100, you wrote: >Good morning list > >Just a general observation on the Dreadnought boys. > >I spent most of my working life with NSW Agriculture, starting in 1961 as >a livestock research officer at the then Wollongbar Agricultural Research >Station between Lismore and Ballina on the far North Coast of NSW. > >For the first 8 years of my location at Wollongbar my office was in the >top floor of a two storey wooden building which had been originally >constructed early in the 1900's to house students being trained for >employment in the dairy industry. I recall that it was not uncommon for >the farm manager to receive visits from elderly men who had come out from >the UK under the "Dreadnought" scheme and had trained at Wollongbar. They >were interested in being shown their old bedrooms which at the time of my >service at Wollongbar were being used as offices. > >I was told during my early years at Wollongbar that another wooden >building had been demolished earlier. It had accommodated the cooking and >dining facilities. In the farm store there were very large linen table >cloths which had covered the dining tables; one of which was still in >service in the early 1960s as a table for separating species in plant >samples taken by agronomists in their pasture research. > >An outline of the events leading to the provision of facilities which were >later used for training in the Dreadnought scheme is taken from: > >"In the Service of Agriculture - a Centennial history of the New South >Wales Department of Agriculture 1890 - 1990". P J Mylrea. Published by >the New South Wales Department of Agriculture 1990. > >Page 11: > >"The concept of Farm Schools became a reality with the first intakes of >students at Wagga and Bathurst Experiment Farms in the mid-1890s and at >Wollongbar and Berry in the early 1900s. At these schools 'the curriculum >is essentially of a practical nature'. >. >Page 15: > >"In addition to the Farm Schools already established, two 'Apprentice >schools' were established at Grafton and Cowra Experiment Farms in 1911, >but 'we do not find that the local lads show a keen desire to avail >themselves of the opportunities afforded by these schools of primary >grade'. The dearth of students at many of the schools (Wollongbar, >Grafton, Glen Innes, Cowra) for many years was overcome by the training of >boys under the Dreadnought Farms Scheme. This scheme had a naval origin: > > 'In 1909 when the question of naval defences was being very keenly > debated in Australia and New Zealand the citizens of New South Wales > voluntarily subscribed 90,000 pounds towards providing a Dreadnought > (battleship) for the Royal Navy.' > >A dreadnought was not built, but half of the money was given to a Trust >which had the aim that 'worthy British boys can be received, taught and >boarded free for six months or a year, and distributed to the farmers of >the State'. The scheme was put into operation and many boys passed >through the departmental farms. The scheme ceased in about 1939, but by >1929 5488 boys had arrived in New South Wales." > >Page 17: > >Caption of a photo (no names unfortunately) > >"Dreadnought Farm Scheme boys from Great Britain at Wollongbar Experiment >Farm in 1922" > >In listing his sources Peter Mylrea used the following for the Dreadnought >Scheme: > >A G Scholes Education for Empire Settlement London, Longman & Green. >1932. p.64 > >Annual Report NSW Department of Agriculture 1908. p. 6 > >When I returned to Wollongbar after post-graduate studies in Canada in >1971 a new research building had been completed at Wollongbar and I >remember seeing the lovely old wooden building being demolished. The site >is now under more recently constructed administration buildings. > >A painting of the old building was commissioned before demolition and was >hung in the corridor outside the tea room of the Research building. > >I hope the above provides leads for further research. Many Australian >families would have an ancestor who came to New South Wales under the >Dreadnought scheme. Maybe there is an opportunity for a special interest >group. > >Regards > >Bryson Wilson in leafy Pennant Hills > > >Joe Bissett wrote: >>Hi Listers, >> >>Can anyone point me to genealogical information concerning the Drednought >>Boys immigration program to New South Wales? I'm particularly interested >>in a group of approximately 350 boys who left England, possibly the Dover >>area, in early 1914. >> >>I would also be interested in any shipping information, especially a >>continuation voyage from NSW to Melbourne. My GF Frederick Edward PIGGOTT >>chaparoned this group, but ended up in the 51st Regiment (reserve) in >>Albertville, Melbourne by June 1914. He was discharged from the Royal >>Garrison Artillery on 7 January 1914 and then spent an unknown amount of >>time in Dover prior to leaving for Australia. >> >>Thanks for any help, Joe >> >>==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== >>Australian Prisoners of War >><http://www.southernx.com.au/pow.html>http://www.southernx.com.au/pow.html >> >>============================== >>Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! >><http://www.ancestry.com/search>http://www.ancestry.com/search

Hi, Have you had a look at GenSeek - packed full of info about everything.. http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/migrate.htm Rummery wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Can you tell me what the conditions were for a Bounty (or Fee paying) > passenger in 1838 on board any ship please? Eg: Did they have to take > bedding and food, what was provided, general conditions etc. > > I only need a general outline - or perhaps an Internet site I could visit to > find out for myself. No libraries here! > > Thanks, > > Debbi - Dubai, United Arab Emirates ex Sydney Kind regards, Michelle Surname Mailing List Administrator for: DARMODY / DERMODY MARWOOD AUS-VIC Check out my web pages for Kelly/Dermody/Madden/Meehan: A Kelly Family from Kilkenny - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~michmar/ All Darmody/Dermody Family's - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~michmar/Darmody.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RESEARCHING: Ireland - KELLY; DERMODY (Kilkenny);MEEHAN (Sligo) and MADDEN England - MARWOOD; LUCAS; PATTISON; PACKHAM; HIGGINBOTTOM; Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

Is there an expert on the Crimea on the list? I am looking for biographical references to Major George Duntze MACDONALD of Her Majesty's 89th. Regiment, who was killed on 15 January 1855 in the lines before Sebastopol in Crimea. [He was the brother of Captain Owen Macdonald of the East India Company]. Does anyone know of or have family connections to these MacDonalds, or ... of any references to George Macdonald in military literature. Please contact me if you can help. Thanks. Kind regards, Jen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jennifer Lambert Tracey HERITAGE ARCHAEOLOGY Archaeological & Heritage Assessment Consultants PO Box 4265 KINGSTON ACT 2604 AUSTRALIA Tel / Fax: (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel: 0419 011 860 http://www.heritagearchaeology.com.au ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Jenny > Is there anyone who has access to the latest Victorian Commonwealth Electoral rolls who wouldn't mind doing some lookups for me, I believe these are in alphabetical order now. > > The people I am trying to find are - > > John Francis JAMES Anyone can check these records at any Federal Electoral Commission office. Each State is in alpha order doesnt take long to check the whole country. bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia ccfhg@terrigal.net.au

Hi Joy > Could someone advise if there is a site to look up BDM in Queensland. > Only States with on line BDMs are NSW and Vic . These records need to be in a format that can be used in a data base. Both of these States records are also available on CD . Qlds are only partially on CD Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia ccfhg@terrigal.net.au

Good morning list Just a general observation on the Dreadnought boys. I spent most of my working life with NSW Agriculture, starting in 1961 as a livestock research officer at the then Wollongbar Agricultural Research Station between Lismore and Ballina on the far North Coast of NSW. For the first 8 years of my location at Wollongbar my office was in the top floor of a two storey wooden building which had been originally constructed early in the 1900's to house students being trained for employment in the dairy industry. I recall that it was not uncommon for the farm manager to receive visits from elderly men who had come out from the UK under the "Dreadnought" scheme and had trained at Wollongbar. They were interested in being shown their old bedrooms which at the time of my service at Wollongbar were being used as offices. I was told during my early years at Wollongbar that another wooden building had been demolished earlier. It had accommodated the cooking and dining facilities. In the farm store there were very large linen table cloths which had covered the dining tables; one of which was still in service in the early 1960s as a table for separating species in plant samples taken by agronomists in their pasture research. An outline of the events leading to the provision of facilities which were later used for training in the Dreadnought scheme is taken from: "In the Service of Agriculture - a Centennial history of the New South Wales Department of Agriculture 1890 - 1990". P J Mylrea. Published by the New South Wales Department of Agriculture 1990. Page 11: "The concept of Farm Schools became a reality with the first intakes of students at Wagga and Bathurst Experiment Farms in the mid-1890s and at Wollongbar and Berry in the early 1900s. At these schools 'the curriculum is essentially of a practical nature'. . Page 15: "In addition to the Farm Schools already established, two 'Apprentice schools' were established at Grafton and Cowra Experiment Farms in 1911, but 'we do not find that the local lads show a keen desire to avail themselves of the opportunities afforded by these schools of primary grade'. The dearth of students at many of the schools (Wollongbar, Grafton, Glen Innes, Cowra) for many years was overcome by the training of boys under the Dreadnought Farms Scheme. This scheme had a naval origin: 'In 1909 when the question of naval defences was being very keenly debated in Australia and New Zealand the citizens of New South Wales voluntarily subscribed 90,000 pounds towards providing a Dreadnought (battleship) for the Royal Navy.' A dreadnought was not built, but half of the money was given to a Trust which had the aim that 'worthy British boys can be received, taught and boarded free for six months or a year, and distributed to the farmers of the State'. The scheme was put into operation and many boys passed through the departmental farms. The scheme ceased in about 1939, but by 1929 5488 boys had arrived in New South Wales." Page 17: Caption of a photo (no names unfortunately) "Dreadnought Farm Scheme boys from Great Britain at Wollongbar Experiment Farm in 1922" In listing his sources Peter Mylrea used the following for the Dreadnought Scheme: A G Scholes Education for Empire Settlement London, Longman & Green. 1932. p.64 Annual Report NSW Department of Agriculture 1908. p. 6 When I returned to Wollongbar after post-graduate studies in Canada in 1971 a new research building had been completed at Wollongbar and I remember seeing the lovely old wooden building being demolished. The site is now under more recently constructed administration buildings. A painting of the old building was commissioned before demolition and was hung in the corridor outside the tea room of the Research building. I hope the above provides leads for further research. Many Australian families would have an ancestor who came to New South Wales under the Dreadnought scheme. Maybe there is an opportunity for a special interest group. Regards Bryson Wilson in leafy Pennant Hills Joe Bissett wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Can anyone point me to genealogical information concerning the Drednought > Boys immigration program to New South Wales? I'm particularly interested > in a group of approximately 350 boys who left England, possibly the Dover > area, in early 1914. > > I would also be interested in any shipping information, especially a > continuation voyage from NSW to Melbourne. My GF Frederick Edward PIGGOTT > chaparoned this group, but ended up in the 51st Regiment (reserve) in > Albertville, Melbourne by June 1914. He was discharged from the Royal > Garrison Artillery on 7 January 1914 and then spent an unknown amount of > time in Dover prior to leaving for Australia. > > Thanks for any help, Joe > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Australian Prisoners of War > http://www.southernx.com.au/pow.html > > ============================== > Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/search

Could any kind person help with a look up for Irene Griffiths d.20.3.1974, Parkville, Vic. Happy to cover costs. Myriam.

Hi List, Is there anyone who has access to the latest Victorian Commonwealth Electoral rolls who wouldn't mind doing some lookups for me, I believe these are in alphabetical order now. The people I am trying to find are - John Francis JAMES Lynette Marie JAMES or MISENER Jennifer Anne JAMES or MITREVSKI Noel Alan JAMES Colin David JAMES Thanks Jenny Bacchus Marsh Victoria

Hello there, Is there anyone out there who may be researching the decsendants of Achibald McMillan ROBERTSON who Married Rachel Blair MCNEILLY. If so I would like to hear from you. Nancy.

Hello Listers, I would like to get some information on any members of the GERBES family if possible. Jacob GERBES came to South Australia in 1850 from Germany then to Victoria and then went to New Zealand. In particular I would like information on William Henry GERBES and Frederick GERBES and their descendants. TIA. Max Martin Phillip Island, Victoria

Hello Folks, I am trying to trace any descendants of Charles Edward MASON and Elizabeth Henrietta THOMSON from Cornwall. They had two children, Leslie Ernest MASON (known as Percy) and a brother who lived in Sunnybank in Queensland ,and I only know his initials as R H MASON. I didn't know he existed until I got the death certificate of My uncle Percy. I would like to make contact with any members of that family. Nancy Matin,Phillip Island

Hello all, I am trying to locate an old friend that I haven't seen or heard of for many years and would like to make contact again, Her name was Dawn CRAIG (Nee SEWARD). If anyone knows her whereabouts I would greatly appreciate hearing from you. Here's Hoping, Nancy Martin, Phillip Island.

The following transcription is provided purely as a service to the many members/contributors of this news group. We have no connection whatsoever with ACP or The Australian Women's Weekly. Where are they now? - The Australian Women's Weekly; November 2000, p 292 * * * * * Where are they now? If you are searching for relatives, old school friends or one-time loves you haven't quite forgotten, you may find them - or even be found yourself - by reading this page. MEMBERS OF THE l8th ANARE EXPEDITION who wintered in Antarctica at Mawson Base in 1971 are sought for a reunion. Contact Bob Reynolds, PO Box 321, Emerald, Vic 3782. GRACE BURFORD lived at Woodville Park, SA, in 1941 and worked at Ashford Tailoring. I remember fondly the great time we had when I was stationed there during WWII and wonder what became of her. Contact: Bill Farrell, 5 Hiles Court, Tocumwal, NSW 2714. Phone (03) 5874 2455 or (03) 5876 3208. 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Hi Listers, Does anyone have the current email address for the Maitland Mercury please? I have tried the one on their website which is mercury@hunterlink.net.au which keeps coming back user unknown. Regards Judith Neville Researching: DAVIES/DAVIS [Cincinatti,OH., Topeka,KS] HUTCHESON [Vanderburgh Co.IN. Tarrant Co.TX,Topeka,KS] JESSE [Topeka, KS] LOVE [Fort Worth TX, Lexington, KY. Bowling Green, KY] MARLEY/MORLEY [Vanderburgh Co.IN., Tarrant Co.TX.,Buncombe Co.N.C.] LEWIS [Vanderburgh Co.IN.,Tarrant Co.TX] SNEDDON [Stirling,Lanark,Edinburgh,Mid & West Lothian], BENNIE [Polmont, STIRLINGSHIRE] GRANT [Polmont, STIRLINGHSHIRE] HAIR [AYR] NEILL [AYR,RENFREW] RICHMOND [AYR] FARROW [UK] WORLEY [London, UK] WARREN [South Australia]