Can anyone tell me how to follow up the records of Victorian Railway employees in the 19th Century. From the micro-fiche I have the following information. Alexander Robertson appointed to the railways as a signalman in the Branch traffic Department in November 1881. Department No.6285. Source R. 84 Eileen Sullivan, Kyabram.

Hello List, Thank you Elizabeth Roberts for your information re the Noel Butlin Archives and the State Record Office concerns. To add to the list of concerns, I wonder how many people are aware that the costs of wills in New South Wales have risen astronomically from $10 to $36. I would like to know how the probate office can justify this huge increase. While we find that the increase came when the gst was introduced so this is one reason for the rise, but the other reason we find is that oh, there hadn't been a rise for sometime. Inspite of these reasons, I still can't see that a rise from $10 to $36 in one step is really justifiable. I would doubt if many family historians will be purchasing wills now at the cost of $36 each. I don't know if letters to the Manager of the Probate Office, of complaint could reduce the costs, but if we don't speak up, then we have no right to winge about things. In closing though, I must say the issue of wills is secondary to the closure of government records at the State Record Office and please everyone write letters, because you not have much of a future left for your hobby if you don't. Please everyone write letters and also we really need to band together, as family history groups and have meetings and speak very loud on the current issues Elizabeth Roberts has raised. At present, these are perhaps more important issues than our own personal family history research. Jan Forbes

Thank you, Grahame, for alerting us to the threat of file withdrawal/destruction? I am concerned, as are you, obviously, about the long term effect of this action should it proceed to the conclusions we fear. Is the answer privately owned CDs? How may that be achieved - assuming that we started yesterday, what an onerous task to attempt, and probably ludicrous to contemplate. But privately owned records may be another solution. If there was a way to convince the relevant authorities to deed the records to reputable organisations for the purpose of family historians only. The key lies in the term ' Government Record'. Does that mean owned by, or collected by? If it is a simple matter of ownership, my suggestion may work. If, on the other hand, it refers to the collection of records - which would include electoral roles etc, then there is indeed the need to raise a very loud voice. I wonder how many biographical, and non-fictional books will need to be removed from libraries around the country. What do I do with my copies of Manning Clarke? I will not let my fingers run on, my mind is struggling to grapple with feasible and rational implications and alternatives. The MP you mention - is he Federal? (not good on Politics <g>). We need more information - ALL the information. We need the guidelines that determine precisely which records must go, and why, and we need to know if it is possible to delete part of sensitive entries which are obviously causing consternation 'over there', without losing the crucial information our family historians need to collect. And most of all, we need to convince the unconverted that working on one's family history is NOT just a pleasurable past-time that could be substituted by gardening, or teaching the budgie to talk. So, if any realistic, legal and feasible proposals are made, please put them to air, and if urgent transcribing at the home level is required - I will do what I can. cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Grahame James <grahamej@viper.net.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 6:36 AM Subject: INTESTATE FILES > Hello Everyone > > I would like to share with you this article from (Australian Family Tree > Connections) After which I would liek your views. As well I would like > us to band together and do something about it. > > "Threat to research" > Researches in NSW and other states/Territories of Australia could see in > the very near future the closure of any government record in which > people are named. The reason is that if Australia is to trade with the > European Economic Union it has to have privacy laws in place. Draft > Commonwealth Privacy legislation is currently before the Federal and NSW > State (at least) govermnents. > > However, in drafting these new privacy laws, it has been forgotten that > the tools of trade of historians are records. In NSW the intestate > records for 1880 to 1914 have already been closed- these are records > about people who have died 86 to 120 years ago. > > I would appreciate your views on how we can stop the government from > putting on more closures. > > We could write to the minister who is (The Hon B Debus, MP Attorney > General) > PO Box A290 South Sydney NSW 1232 > > We must not let this government interfere with our family history. > > Regards > > Grahame James > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Ray White's Vintage Phones > http://www.southernx.com.au/vintagephones/ > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Elizabeth Radcliffe married Henry GILES, 1867 Victoria. Her sister Mary Ellen Radcliffe married Joseph HAWLEY, 1865 Victoria. I would expect that they married Castlemain or Kynton or Creswick. Would like very much to connect with any issue of these families. -- Jim Radcliffe POB 2497 Ruidoso New Mexico 88355 seeking RADCLIFFE'S from early 1500's Almondbury Parish West Riding, Yorkshire & Liverpool & Australia & USA & Canada & spouses:

Hi all George BAILEY arrived in South Australia in 1837. The name of his wife and child are unknown. George was later remarried to Elizabeth HARVEY on 18 Feb 1843 at Adelaide, South Australia. He was a gardener and died 17 Jan 1870 and is buried at Echunga, Adelaide. I am a descendant of George and his first wife. They had a son James or William who married my gggrandmother Sarah Ann SPARROW. They had Sarah Ann Mortimer BAILEY who married Herbert HORNSBY in 1907 at St Arnaud, Victoria, Australia. I would appreciate any enlightening information. Kindest Regards Belinda Turvey

In Remembrance of all those that have fallen on this very special Day, Lest we Forget. Especially my Dad who passed away 11/11/1987. An old digger from way back, and if there was any day he wanted to die on this was the day, Remembrance Day. Lets all spare a minute on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month for all our country men and women. God Bless Julie Clift Kalgoorlie/Boulder, Western Australia My Websites: England to Australia - http://www.angelfire.com/ne/roots * Home of the RENTON Surname World Wide - http://renton1.homestead.com * Tracking Our Family Footsteps through time in Australia: BDM's site. http://www.angelfire.com/ns/aust

Hi Lee > Would appreciate some help from anyone who knows of a place called WHITE BAY. > . > His place of residence at the time was WHITE BAY. > As he was from NSW, I checked in the Geographical Names Board for it but it is not in NSW. Its not a land address really these days Its a small part of Sydney Harbour around the Rozelle/Balmain area. Cant put my hands on a large enough scale map at the moment to give you its precise location Bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia ccfhg@terrigal.net.au > I was unable to access the Victorian one. > Can anyone please help? > Lee > > Lee Mills > North Nowra > N.S.W. > Australia > > ______________________________

Hi all, just a word or two to let you know what has been happening - The stay of execution runs out on Monday. The Northern Ayrshire Council is believed to be meeting this coming week to decide the fate of the vessel. NSW National Party MP and Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mr Garry Nehl leaves Australia today to go to Scotland to fight for the preservation of the vessel. The full story can be read at the City of Adelaide website. http://www.cityofadelaide.org Julie Stokes Publicity officer City of Adelaide Action Group - Adelaide

The Australian Colonists Series CD-Rom covering all arrivals to NSW between 1788-1800 and their family and biographical details (almost 10,000 entries in the database) is now available through The Macbeth Genealogy on-line book store and the Doors-To-The-Past web site. You can order from these sites by either Credit Card, Cheque or Money Order. This CD would be a great Christmas present for the genealogist in the family. For full details go to http://www.historyaustralia.org.au/ozgenie/index.htm Scott Brown Ozgenie Research

Would SKS who has access to the shipping records for the "Dinapore" arrived Victoria November 1852 be able to do a lookup for William and Maria Pegrum. I am looking for where they boarded. Many many thanks Susan Jones nee Pegrum

Listers. today I was fortunate enough to find out about my great grandfather from Germany and his siblings and parents. Up until now I knew nothing and with the help of one very kind lady in Melbourne I have discovered - Christian Jacob HAEFFNER married Karolina Magdalena Kraemer in Baden Germany Children - Johann Christian Friedrich HAEFFNER born Germany Johanna Christiana Maria Magdalena HAEFFNER born Germany Wilhelm Heinrick HAEFFNER born Germany Jakob Henrick HAEFFNER born Germany I know about Johann Christian Friedrich and Wilhelm Heinrick and their deaths in Victoria. Is it possible to find out whether Johann Christian Friedrich HAEFFNER or Jakob Henrick HAEFFNER died here too? Regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria, Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

Dear Listers, I am looking for Niddrie descendants anywhere. Kind regards, Janice

Hi listers. Are there any members of the Young Family History Group on line? I would like to know if they have in their Library any of the Funeral Books of H.R. Blackett & Son, who were Funeral Directors and Undertakers at Young many years ago. Any reply would be appreciated. Kind regards, Allan On the Central Coast of N.S.W. Australia. E-Mail. joalarm@ozemail.com.au

Is anyone researching Samuel Sydenham, Police Constable of North Sydney 1890 and wife Louise Catherine who owned land and buildings in Hornsby 1890/1900s and retired there. Two of the buildings they owned, shops, still exists under threat of demolition. Any information welcome. Elizabeth A. Roberts N.S.W. Genealogical and Historical Research Wahroonga NSW

Is anyone researching the family of Walter and Mary Willington who arrived in 1855 on the Bangalore, or more specifically their sons Thomas and William A who had a shop in Hornsby, NSW from 1894 to W.A. died in 1905. I would also be interested to hear from anyone who knows anything about Willington and Son Grocers, North Sydney shop or Willington Bros. Electroplaters and silversmiths. George St. Sydney. All 1890s /1900. Hornsby Store still exists under threat of demolition. Elizabeth A. Roberts N.S.W. Genealogical and Historical Research Wahroonga NSW

Is anyone researching James Fitzgerald, Store keeper Hornsby NSW 1890s/1900s; Bankrupt late 1890s but retained one store. This building still exists under threat of demolition. Any information very welcome. Elizabeth A. Roberts N.S.W. Genealogical and Historical Research Wahroonga NSW

The log of the Ceasar Godfrey for the 1868 voyage does not seem to have survived Log Of Logs Vol 1 lists the Log of the 1877 voyage to SA at SA Public Records Office and Log of Logs Vol 2 lists the 1862 voyage to Qld in Queensland state archives nothing else appears to have survived ---------- Elizabeth A. Roberts N.S.W. Genealogical and Historical Research Wahroonga NSW

Hello, Can someone tell me whether there is/was a cemetery in St. Kilda (Victoria) and if so what the name of it is please. Regards Wallace

Hi All I have been lurking for a few weeks while I get everything up and rolling after a major computer crash. I have also changed my email name as you can see. The names are as follows: Coughlin, and all other spellings. Mainly Hunter Valley and New England areas. Grimes, Hunter Valley, New England, and Bathurst region. Handebo, Hunter Valley, New England areas. Mansfield all of NSW. McPhee, Hunter Valley, New England areas. Gillespie, Hunter Valley, New England areas. Hardy, Hunter Valley, New England areas. Gillespie, Hunter Valley, New England areas. Gilligan, Hunter Valley, and Goulburn areas. I would be happy to share any information with anyone researching these names and their descendants. Regards Denis Dalziel Perth, Western Australia

Hello all, Have a friend who was born during WW2, mother Australian, father Canadian. She now wants to trace her father (knows his name) not to make mischief but for closure in that part of her life. How can she go about it? Are there any records she can access? Are the Canadian Services on line? Can anyone help in this matter please? Addresses and/or websites/Email etc. Regards, Helen