Denise & the List: In reply to your email regarding NSW marriage registrations. Details on the NSW marriage registration are: Date, Place, Religion, Minister, Status (bachelor, spinster, widowed, divorced), Age, Birthplace, Residence, Occupation, Bride and Groom's Parents names, Witnesses, Other Notations - Permission to Marry. Divorce Date Ref. Note however that the divorce would only be listed on the marriage where the divorce occurred. In other words the registry goes to the marriage registration and notes the divorce details. It would not list all divorces if there were more than one. Thus by ordering a marriage certificate/transcription, where a divorce occurred you will get the reference to that divorce. On the next marriage the conjugal status would be listed as divorced. Hope this helps Allan Murrin ===================================================== JOY MURRIN FAMILY HISTORY SERVICES www.joymurrin.com.au * NSW BDM TRANSCRIPTION SERVICE * ENGLAND & WALES CERTIFICATES *SCOTLAND CERTIFICATES PO BOX 278 OATLEY NSW 2223 Phone (02) 9585-1187 Fax (02) 9585-1486 E-mail: murrinj@ozemail.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2000 20:59 Subject: A marriage certificate in NSW > I've a question, listers, for the people who research in NSW a bit...... > > I have not seen many certificates from NSW but I have been led to believe > they do not show the same amount of information as Victoria. Is this > correct? > > Perhaps some lister can help me with this -- > > If a man married three times in NSW, would his previous 2 marriages be > likely to show up on his 3rd marriage c? > > Regards > Denise > > > ###################################### > Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years > Brisbane Queensland - > Searching - > CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria > MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria > GREEN - Tasmania > CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland > HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany > KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany > HALL, Victoria, England > MARRIOTT, Victoria, England > PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England > JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia > FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA > NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? > ############################################### > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Guidelines for the Conference of Australian History > http://www.southernx.com.au/rootsweb.html > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi I am looking for some help. There are two burials in Singleton which I would like to investigate. Thomas Cavanagh buried Queen Street, Singleton NSW on 3/5/1852 Mary Jane Cavanagh (nee Coleman) also buried there on 4/12/1867 I am quite prepared to ring the cemetery if I could get the phone, fax or e-mail address. I also believe that there are headstone transcripts recorded. If any kind person could assist with any of the following it would be appreciated Contact details for the cemetery Details of any headstone transcripts for the above Details of other interments in the same grave(s) Photographs of the graves and any headstones (if they exist) for which I will obviously make reasonable reimbursements. In regards to the last matter I do not envisage offers from places like Darwin or Perth etc (BIG SMILE) Regards Bill Bill & Terri van Lamoen \ e-mail bvl@multiline.com.au Perth Western Australia \ http://www.goodlink.nl/family Phone (08) 9401 0383 \ Fax (08) 9401 0604

Same here Joy. I'm lost Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Bell <joybell@hdc.com.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 27 November 2000 1:41 Subject: No mail? > Is anyone experiencing the same problem as me? > Not had any mail for 24 hrs & am subscribed to 3 lists > I have withdrawal symptoms!! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Joy Bell > Nathalia, Victoria > joybell@hdc.com.au > Researching the following families > LAWFORD - Victoria from London > BALDWIN - Victoria/NSW from Suffolk, Eng. > RICKARD - Victoria from Cornwell > GRIFFITHS Thomas - Victoria from Gloucestershire > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Sydney Morning Herald Deaths > Compiled by the Dead Persons Society > http://www.southernx.com.au/dps/ > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary & Donna" <stkilda@xtra.co.nz> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 November 2000 10:10 Subject: Muster Lists > Hi All > Can anyone tell me what information is likely to be contained in the > following works > > 1800-1802 - Muster and Lists - New South Wales and Norfolk Island <<<<<<snipped>>>>>>> Hi Gary These can have a good deal of info . The age of a person, who they were married to ( sometimes its the only proof ) who the parents are ( ditto) Their occupation , their status, where they were resident , whether off stores or not . etc If you have any early convicts in the tree these are a must to check. These books are to be found in many libraries bye Marg Morters Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

As most of you know, the Sydney DPS is indexing the SMH death notices from 1986. Starting in January, we will be adding a new section to the web site, to cover miscellaneous issues of the SMH prior to 1986. This is to cater for those people who have contacted me indicating they have some issues which they would like to index. However, the last thing we want to do is spend time indexing issues which are already covered by published indexes. I know that scattered years have been indexed, but don't know the complete list. So, this is where I am asking for help. If anyone knows of any published indexes to the SMH death notices, can you please contact me (off list) with the details. This will enable us to compile a "don't touch" list, to avoid duplicated effort. John John Graham GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG - http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/ SYDNEY DPS - http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/dps.html (home of the "Herald" and "Telegraph" Death Indexes)

I've a question, listers, for the people who research in NSW a bit...... I have not seen many certificates from NSW but I have been led to believe they do not show the same amount of information as Victoria. Is this correct? Perhaps some lister can help me with this -- If a man married three times in NSW, would his previous 2 marriages be likely to show up on his 3rd marriage c? Regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

OK friends. I initially was not enquiriing regarding Sennetts but about a book which a friend has seen in her search for information on her mother. This mother died in 1947 and nothing except a death certificate and a photo remain. There is no birth c, no marriage records and it happened in Tamworth. I am going to post the names in the hope someone is able to pinpoint this missing mother. Lillian SENNETT born we gather around 1905-1910 (according to D/c, in Bathurst) died 1947 in Quirindi NSW married Thomas BOURKE in 1937 in Tamworth. Had one daughter in 1946. Daughter is no mystery. Mother's birth marriage and anything else - big mystery. Mother died 6 months after friends birth. My friend left with neighbours for some years until they died. Father was a shearers cook and never in town. Possible parents for mother are James SENNETT and Wilma PATTON There appears no records in BDM NSW, for birth or marriage. Nothing appears anywhere. My friend has just returned from about 2 weeks research all the way from Sydney out to Bathurst and up to the border of QLD> regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Burt" <keelawee@batemansbay.com> To: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:48 PM Subject: Re Lilllian Sennett > Denise, > > You do not say what time frame you are looking at ? > > Jennifer > keelawee@batemansbay.com > Searching for MORSE in UK, India and Australia > FORWOOD in UK and Australia > BASTIEN in UK and France > DE CROZE in UK and France > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: "Patricia Jungwirth" <tricia.j@aardvark.net.au> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Family Societies > Robert. My friend is actually young than me by a tad. > She has her mother's death, has tried the BDM's in NSW for marriage and > birth. She has no siblings. Her father is dead. > She has tried the family history societies from mid NSW to the border of > Qld. She has tried the churches. the local papers. the libraries. The > Cemetery even where mum is buried (no records exist). She has tried > absolutely everything, including hiring professionals. > WE have tried all manner of things on the web. This one is a big mystery. > No hint mum existed except for the fact she gave birth (and we have the > certificate) and that she died (and we have that certificate). This mother > died 6 months after the birth of my friend, dad remarried and friend was > left with neighbours until they died. > We have the grandparents male and female noted on the death certificate. We > cannot find anything about them. > They came from Bathurst area. > We are looking for SENNETT Lillian > parents of Lillian , possbily JAMES SENNETT AND WILMA PATTON. > > Perhaps I'm not a fool, but I don't know who the Fawcett folk are? have I > missed a beat here? > > By the way, that book was put in front of my friend, she wasn't allowed to > have it, but the woman referred to it. My friend believes what the woman > told her, why shouldn't she. > We all hope something will turn up our lost rellies, dont' we. It all seemed > to go to be true to me, but then I am constantly surprised in this "game". > regards and thanks for your comments > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Jungwirth" <tricia.j@aardvark.net.au> > To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: Family Societies > > > > Hi, > > > > I imagine your friend is a little older than you - and she wants to know > > about her mother - - your friend maybe should get hold of her own birth > > certificate first - it may supply some info that will help? > > > > I guess the mother is deceased? - get hold of the death cert - I expect > > your friend wasn't the "witness" on the death cert - maybe more good > info - > > exact dates etc. and then check the relevant newspapers - the obits may > > well uncover "missing cousins". > > > > The birth cert may indicate the father - your friend's father may still be > > alive? - somebody maybe able to track him down? > > > > Does your friend have siblings - to the same parents? - maybe talk to > them? > > - get their certificates - more info may be uncovered? > > > > Cut to the chase - > > > > no such book really exists or has ever existed - telephone books - > SandsMac > > directories - electoral rolls - medicare levy and taxation records have > > never had > > "all the names of people in Australia at some point in time" - but > wouldn't > > it be great for genies? - a total invasion of privacy? and probably highly > > inaccurate? > > > > Denise - be a little more specific - you ain't no fool - we ain't either - > > folk like the Fawcett folk find folk - if there is something unusual about > > all of this - then don't name names - well not all of them anyhow - and > fly > > the kite. > > > > good luck > > Robert > > > > At 05:02 PM 27/11/00 +1100, you wrote: > > >A friend of mine was recently in NSW researching in vain for her mother's > > >missing marriage and birth. > > >Whilst doing this at a historical/family society, a lady opened a book > which > > >was a very thick book and in it was supposedly listed all the names of > > >people in Australia at some point in time. > > >Does anyone know what this friend may have seen? Do most societies have > > >this type of book. > > >Something like a Directory with everyone in it. > > >regards > > >Denise > > > > > > > > >###################################### > > >Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years > > >Brisbane Queensland - > > >Searching - > > >CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria > > >MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria > > >GREEN - Tasmania > > >CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland > > >HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany > > >KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany > > >HALL, Victoria, England > > >MARRIOTT, Victoria, England > > >PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England > > >JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia > > >FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA > > >NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? > > >############################################### > > > > > > > > >==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > > >Subscribe to the AGI (Australian Genealogy Information) Bulletin > > >A Free Service for Australian Family Historians > > >http://www.southernx.com.au/ > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > > Ballarat History Index > > http://www.southernx.com.au/ballarat1.html > > > > > > ============================== > > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > > > > >

Hi, I imagine your friend is a little older than you - and she wants to know about her mother - - your friend maybe should get hold of her own birth certificate first - it may supply some info that will help? I guess the mother is deceased? - get hold of the death cert - I expect your friend wasn't the "witness" on the death cert - maybe more good info - exact dates etc. and then check the relevant newspapers - the obits may well uncover "missing cousins". The birth cert may indicate the father - your friend's father may still be alive? - somebody maybe able to track him down? Does your friend have siblings - to the same parents? - maybe talk to them? - get their certificates - more info may be uncovered? Cut to the chase - no such book really exists or has ever existed - telephone books - SandsMac directories - electoral rolls - medicare levy and taxation records have never had "all the names of people in Australia at some point in time" - but wouldn't it be great for genies? - a total invasion of privacy? and probably highly inaccurate? Denise - be a little more specific - you ain't no fool - we ain't either - folk like the Fawcett folk find folk - if there is something unusual about all of this - then don't name names - well not all of them anyhow - and fly the kite. good luck Robert At 05:02 PM 27/11/00 +1100, you wrote: >A friend of mine was recently in NSW researching in vain for her mother's >missing marriage and birth. >Whilst doing this at a historical/family society, a lady opened a book which >was a very thick book and in it was supposedly listed all the names of >people in Australia at some point in time. >Does anyone know what this friend may have seen? Do most societies have >this type of book. >Something like a Directory with everyone in it. >regards >Denise > > >###################################### >Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years >Brisbane Queensland - >Searching - >CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria >MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria >GREEN - Tasmania >CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland >HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany >KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany >HALL, Victoria, England >MARRIOTT, Victoria, England >PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England >JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia >FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA >NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? >############################################### > > >==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== >Subscribe to the AGI (Australian Genealogy Information) Bulletin >A Free Service for Australian Family Historians >http://www.southernx.com.au/ > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hello Listers, I've deleted my information re the addresses and costs for BDM's in Australian States. Can someone help me with a site with this info please. Robyn Robyn Kelly Echuca, Victoria rrkelly@origin.net.au

All, Firstly I am sorry that this is a bit of topic (a lot actually) but I couldnt find anywhere else to ask this question. I am wanting to update my website of family information and just wanted to know if framed pages (which I find easier to navigate with) are acceptable or does anyone have a particular reason that I shouldnt use framed pages. Do most if not all browsers accept framed pages now ? Again I am sorry to be right off topic here, but I couldnt think of a nicer bunch of people to ask for advice on what I should do. Thanks Again Brad Collins _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

A friend of mine was recently in NSW researching in vain for her mother's missing marriage and birth. Whilst doing this at a historical/family society, a lady opened a book which was a very thick book and in it was supposedly listed all the names of people in Australia at some point in time. Does anyone know what this friend may have seen? Do most societies have this type of book. Something like a Directory with everyone in it. regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

Maybe we should start singing Christmas Carols?............LOL Jones wrote: > Same here Joy. I'm lost Susan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joy Bell <joybell@hdc.com.au> > To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, 27 November 2000 1:41 > Subject: No mail? > > > Is anyone experiencing the same problem as me? > > Not had any mail for 24 hrs & am subscribed to 3 lists > > I have withdrawal symptoms!! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Joy Bell > > Nathalia, Victoria > > joybell@hdc.com.au > > Researching the following families > > LAWFORD - Victoria from London > > BALDWIN - Victoria/NSW from Suffolk, Eng. > > RICKARD - Victoria from Cornwell > > GRIFFITHS Thomas - Victoria from Gloucestershire > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > > Sydney Morning Herald Deaths > > Compiled by the Dead Persons Society > > http://www.southernx.com.au/dps/ > > > > > > ============================== > > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > > > > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Australian Prisoners of War > http://www.southernx.com.au/pow.html > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Is anyone experiencing the same problem as me? Not had any mail for 24 hrs & am subscribed to 3 lists I have withdrawal symptoms!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joy Bell Nathalia, Victoria joybell@hdc.com.au Researching the following families LAWFORD - Victoria from London BALDWIN - Victoria/NSW from Suffolk, Eng. RICKARD - Victoria from Cornwell GRIFFITHS Thomas - Victoria from Gloucestershire

Hello Juliette There is a book "A Geographical Dictionary Or Gazetteer Of The Australian Colonies 1848" it is now out in facsimile edition and it has reproduced the first gazetteer of Australia It was printed in the 1970's but maybe still availed from the State Library bookshop It is 450 plus pages and a great reference Regards John John and Shirley Smith Maitland Area Hunter Valley NSW smiths@hunterlink.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juliette Hendry" <terralea@westserv.net.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 2:53 PM Subject: Original NSW Place Names..is there a site? > Can anyone tell me, please...is there a site where we can find out the location and present day names of some of the old place names, eg Kingstown, Wallis Plains, etc? > > Thanks, > > Juliette > Forbes > NSW > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Ballarat History Index > http://www.southernx.com.au/ballarat1.html > > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 >

Hi All Can anyone tell me what information is likely to be contained in the following works 1800-1802 - Muster and Lists - New South Wales and Norfolk Island 1805-1806 - Musters of New South Wales and Norfolk Island 1811 - General Musters of New South Wales, Norfolk Island and Van Diemen's Land. 1822 - General Muster & Land and Stock Muster of New South Wales 1823, 1824, 1825 - General Muster of New South Wales regards Gary Our Family Tree Online http://www.nullus-anxietas.com/taniwha MORRIS-AUS Administrator http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/m/morris.html ICQ # 38998964

I have just joined the list as I am trying to research my father. He was known as Victor William Henderson, supposedly born in Gatton Qld in 1900 and sent to Zeehan in Tasmania at 3 months of age. He lived with his grandparents until they died. The only concrete evidence that he lived is his death certificate which says his fathers name was William but his mother was Unknown. This is apparently quite rare to have the mother unkn known. Has anyone any clues for me as to where I can search next. It would be much appreciated. Thank You Elaine

Just thought I'd post the surnames I'm researching Renehan Colcott Beechey - Vic. Love - Vic Reid - Ballarat, Vic Nicholson - Ballarat Wilson - Ballarat Wilson - Camperdown area McDonald - Camperdown area Elkington - Camperdown area Di Reid Welshmans Reef Vic

Hello everyone, I am sure this has been discussed but I cannot find it by looking through the archives. Can someone tell me what the legal age of marriage (female) was in NSW in 1910. Would they have to get special permission if under this age, if so from whom? Thank you all for your time. Regards, Michelle Dempsey Albury, NSW http://family.border.net.au

http://sites.archivenet.gov.au/Mariners/ Lots of ships into Sydney 1873, lots of passengers/crew lists. A lot of coastal shipping here with some from overseas. This is a good site - hope you find a lost rellie, Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################