Yes it is, and it costs about $140, but you can upgrade for about $75. -----Original Message----- From: Grahame James <grahamej@viper.net.au> To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 9 December 2000 6:58 PM Subject: FAMILY TREE MAKER No.8 >Hello Everyone > >Would any one please be able to inform me if Familytree Maker 8 is out >yet and if so how much is it to buy? I live in Rydalmere Sydney NSW and >was thinking of purchasing. > >Regards > >Grahame > > >==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== >Sydney Morning Herald Deaths >Compiled by the Dead Persons Society >http://www.southernx.com.au/dps/ > > >============================== >The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family >members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. >http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

Hi Denise, After my mother's death, when I was 6 yo I went to live with my father's sister and her family. My Aunt and Uncle were my guardians, although nothing was set up legally. Susan Jones nee Pegrum ----- Original Message -----

Hi Graham. We are currently using FTM 8.0 Don't know about the cost as ours was given to us by the FTM company as we had been jerked around by them after purchasing 7.5. A friendly warning though. Try and not purchase this product from their company in the U.S as the postage now is a fee of $35.00 to 40.00 US. With the way our dollar is at the moment the postage is a killer. Am not sure if it is in Australian stores yet as we received ours before it was even released on the FTM site. You could try Harvey Norman who have been known in the past to sell FTM versions. Regards, Shae ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grahame James" <grahamej@viper.net.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 6:45 AM Subject: FAMILY TREE MAKER No.8 > Hello Everyone > > Would any one please be able to inform me if Familytree Maker 8 is out > yet and if so how much is it to buy? I live in Rydalmere Sydney NSW and > was thinking of purchasing. > > Regards > > Grahame

Hi Denise, I may be wrong, but I've always been a sceptic about transfer of guardianship for children unless it was ordered by a court. My belief is that many people believe that they have been given guardianship by various people who have no right to grant that right, such as a police officer. As an example, my belief is a will which appoints a guardian of one's children is merely a statement of intent rather than a legal transfer of guardianship. For instance, the current authorities in NSW which arrange transfer of guardianships are: * Childrens Court (cases of child abuse and neglect etc) * Guardianship Board (cases of severe disability of children and adults) * Supreme Court (for unusual cases) Cheers, Phil Young. > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise McMahon [mailto:helendmc@powerup.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 7 December 2000 8:42 PM > To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Guardianships > > > A friend's mother died when she was 6 months old, her father away > interstate > most of the time, so she was left with friends for 8 years. These friends > were legal guardians, then at 8n years she was given to a family member to > raise, and this person was given legal guardianship. All this would have > been late 1940's into the 50's. > > How would one track these details/records in NSW? I'd appreciate any > suggestions/help. > regards > Denise > > > ###################################### > Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years > Brisbane Queensland - > Searching - > CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria > MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria > GREEN - Tasmania > CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland > HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany > KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany > HALL, Victoria, England > MARRIOTT, Victoria, England > PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England > JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia > FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA > NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? > ############################################### > > ______________________________

Hi all, I have recently obtained the AIF records of my late G/Grandfather from the National achives. As well as being very impressed with the amount of information that came back.... I also have found out that he had also served in the Boer War. BUT!! I went to the "Australian War Memorial" site to do a search on the nominal roll and couldnt find his name anywhere. Would anyone have any clues?? Would it be that the record keeping back then wasnt up to scratch? Or maybe he didnt really serve?? Who knows.....maybe someone out there can shed some light on the subject maybe!! Thanks, Darren Sunny QLD

Hi Listers, I wonder if anyone could help with spotting any clues in this tale - very vague - which might suggest where I could start looking? It has parallels with my own Danish family, who emigrated to NSW in 1856 and fossicked for gold, then selected land. (Except I think by 1864, he had left it a bit late). I tried to explain to Anita that Australia is organised by States...I'm afraid that for a lot of Danes, it is just Australia - or "ned under" :-)) Any help appreciated. Cheers, Lesley (Melbourne) *** I would be very happy if you can help me. The only problem is, that the information I have about Christoffer Bruhn, is a lifestore written by his niece. She tells that he went to England in around 1864. He had 4 brothers and one sister. His sister was born in 1844 and his mother in 1822. Know I say Christoffer, well I am not sure at all, because I have got a familytree from an uncle, but I have found some mistakes, so I can not be sure that his name was Christoffer. As I wrote before he went to England. Later on he went to Australia. He was going to dig for gold, but got a small piece of land. Now this is the story. A another farmer wanted to buy his piece of land but he refused, Then the farmer bought all the land land around Christoffer´s piece and Christoffer had forgotten to buy some road, so he could go to his piece of land and he ended with selling the land to the other farmer. Then he got another piece of land, but it was a good piece of land to use, but he stayed in Australia till he died. And he died as British citizen. The story also says that the place he came to was full of snakes and that he sent for his wife and children when he was settled down. I don´t know any of their names or how many children there was. I hope you can help me with some information. regard Anita

Dear LIst: Several of my ex-husband's ancestor's migrated to Australia, The family name is CLEZIE.....also spelled CLEZY, CLAZIE, CLAZY, etc. I have traced the line in Scotland, back to the 1700s, but the Scottish Genealogy Society says the name is NOT Scottish in origin. I would like to hear from anyone in your country who might know of the name. I would also like to invite everyone on the list to check out my United States web page. It has many links on America including an interactive US map showing ALL 50 homepages. Happy surfing! Juvanne Clezie The Research Network http://www.researchnetwork.net

Hi All Looking for this place in NSW - Bogabagil. Cannot find it on the Auslig site, does anyone know where this place is? regards Gary Our Family Tree Online MORRIS-AUS Mailing List Home Page http://www.nullus-anxietas.com/taniwha MORRIS-AUS Administrator

Greetings to Listers, One and All Just a note to wish each of the the Joys and Happiness of the Festive Season. Let us not forget the reason for the season - Christ who came to be our Brother and Our Saviour. May the Peace that only he can give fill each of your hearts and the hearts of those you love this Christmas. May 2001 be a great year for each of us as we continue our search. THANK YOU to all those who helped me in any way this year. I do appreciate it. I'm unsubing for the next 6 weeks or so, as I'm away from my base and wont have ready access to my email. Have found some NZ rellies I want to meet. Look forward to joining in the search in 2001. With best wishes Peter Stewart fms Brisbane 3g grandson of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd SAVE OUR CENSUS ON 7 AUGUST 2001 VOTE "YES" To keeping your household census form in the National Archives of Australia, so this data will be available for genealogical, historical and medical research by our descendants in 100 years time. There are more than 100,000 genealogists in Australia. TELL 10 OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL 10 OF THEIR FRIENDS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SAVE THESE RECORDS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ "To Live On In The Hearts And Minds Of Descendants ^ ^ Is To Never Die". ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Researching: Descendants of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd, and associated families in the Hawkesbury and Macdonald River, Wollombi and Hunter Region as well as Moree and surrounding districts. Also researching the families of Dugald & Hannah Stewart [Jurd Connection] paternal Timothy & Margretta Tomlins} maternal David & Mary Simon } side _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Greetings Listers Is there some kind and generous person who 1. has access to Ingham newspapers of 1920 who could do a lookup and email the information to a friend OR 2. can advise what papers were available in Ingham in 1920 and where they could be accessed today. I am looking for the death and funeral notice and any obituary of ALEXANDER GILLIES who died on 13 May 1920 at Ingham Hospital and was buried on 14 May at the Ingham Cemetery. I would have checked the Queensland State Library but as I only received the request yesterday and I am going o/s early Sunday morning I can't get to the Library before I go. To leave it till I can get there in 7 weeks time is unfair, as this friend of mine is helping an elderly lady in the Maitland Family History Circle. If you can offer any help on this question please e-mail Ann at ann.campbell@hunterlink.net.au. Ann has been most helpful to me with my research and I'd love to help her. Thanking you in anticipation - and I look forward to returning the favour in the future. Peter Stewart Brisbane SAVE OUR CENSUS ON 7 AUGUST 2001 VOTE "YES" To keeping your household census form in the National Archives of Australia, so this data will be available for genealogical, historical and medical research by our descendants in 100 years time. There are more than 100,000 genealogists in Australia. TELL 10 OF YOUR FRIENDS TO TELL 10 OF THEIR FRIENDS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO SAVE THESE RECORDS. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ "To Live On In The Hearts And Minds Of Descendants ^ ^ Is To Never Die". ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Researching: Descendants of Daniel & Elizabeth Jurd, and associated families in the Hawkesbury and Macdonald River, Wollombi and Hunter Region as well as Moree and surrounding districts. Also researching the families of Dugald & Hannah Stewart [Jurd Connection] paternal Timothy & Margretta Tomlins} maternal David & Mary Simon } side _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Was someone asking about a month ago about the bushranger WARD. If so, would that person like to contact me directly. With thanks Leslea Queensland

My thanks to all who answered my requests re the above. You have been wonderful and I will now get into action on this. Again, thank you all sincerely and please accept this as personal thanks to all who replied........you have been so many. regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

Hello everyone, Is anyone able to recommend a good, recent book on Australian genealogical research that I could send to a friend in the USA? I have previously sent him "Family History for Beginners" by the Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra (even though he is a researcher of long standing) and am now seeking something more recent and of greater depth. Thanks Lyndall Canberra

Hi. Wondering if anyone is familiar with an Emanuel Ould who may have emigrated to Australia from South Africa (orig from Cornwall, England) around 1860 or so. He left England in 1850 to be a lighthouse keeper somewhere near Cape of Good Hope, South Africa in 1850. In 1860 his wife and three kids (I'm great-grand daughter to one of those kids) left SA and headed for Utah, USA. Family rumor has it that Emanuel may have gone to Australia after his wife left him. The family has been searching for Emanuel for about 50 years now with no luck. Any info at all would really be appreciated. We'd all like to know what became of our Emanuel..... Jennifer Wescoatt Jensen jengen@inconnect.com Researching: WESCOATT (Wescott etc), OULD (Olds), GREEN, TURNER, BRADFORD and more

Hi to all listers, Do any of you have any "SYKES" connections,as i am researching the following "SYKES" family,in Australia as follows: George & Mary Thornhill SYKES (nee GRAHAM) issue: Violet 1891,George W.1893,Madeline 1895,Winifred 1899,Dorothy 1911. The parents of George (senior) were Samuel&Grace SYKES nee COTTERILL. George SYKES came out to Aus.in the 1920'S,originaly from Stockport Ches I am a gt grandson of George's sister Hannah SYKES who married Charles HARDING in 1886 in Stockport. I have already found one branch via Madeline SYKES (1895) who married Walter R. WAUGH. Can any other branches be found in time for Christmas? Regards to all, Wishing you all the best for Christmas. Ken. PRESTWICH LANCS ex STOCKPORT

Just reposting my interests in EVETTS in Qld, if anyone researching the same name. (not very common) Mary Hansen SARINA 4737 Qld http://www.mackay.net.au/~maryh

I am researching SALMON, SAMMON and SALMOND in Queensland. Any others following these surnames? Regards Mary Hansen SARINA 4737 Qld http://www.mackay.net.au/~maryh

A friend's mother died when she was 6 months old, her father away interstate most of the time, so she was left with friends for 8 years. These friends were legal guardians, then at 8n years she was given to a family member to raise, and this person was given legal guardianship. All this would have been late 1940's into the 50's. How would one track these details/records in NSW? I'd appreciate any suggestions/help. regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

IS anyone able to tell me where the Family H Group for Quirindi is.....the address/phone number and if they are on line. Apparently in "the old days" there were 2 Bathursts, the one near Orange and one near Picton. Does anyone know of this Bathurst. My friend's mother was born in Bathurst NSW and nothing shows up for the one which exists today. We are now looking for the old Bathurst near Picton. Any help appreciated regards Denise ###################################### Denise Marriott McMahon - ex Melbourne 21 years Brisbane Queensland - Searching - CONWAY - County Clare and N.E. Victoria MCNEIL - Isle of Skye Scotland and Victoria GREEN - Tasmania CRAWFORD, NE Victoria, USA, Ireland, Scotland HAEFFNER, NE Victoria,Leibenstadt Baden Germany KRAEMER, Leibenstadt Baden Germany HALL, Victoria, England MARRIOTT, Victoria, England PINNER, Tasmania, Victoria, England JENKS, Melbourne, Lismore NSW and NH USA, Victoria and NSW Australia FOSTER, Rutland Ma USA and Keene NH USA NOONAN - Ireland and Australia???? ###############################################

If you would like to find out how to get all the previous 2,600 URL's please email me privately. URL's 5th Dec Thanks to Gail Dodd & Helen Gunnell for Contributing http://www.dnr.qld.gov.au/resourcenet/land/landservices/placenames/ American Military Directory http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~northing/placenames/usa/military/ Australia http://www.comptons.com/encyclopedia/ARTICLES/0000/00144640_A.html Bould Family Website http://home.mira.net/~grahamb/ British Military Records http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/BritMilRecs.html Burma Star Association http://www.burmastar.org/ Civilian Internees of the Japanese in Singapore during WWII http://user.itl.net/~glen/CivilianInternees.html Coal Mining Resource Centre http://www.cmhrc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ Complete Parish Number List http://www.st-and.ac.uk/institutes/sassi/spns/parishlist.htm Discovering Flemish Family Histories http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~northing/general/latin_vlaams_eng.html Distinguished Women of Past & Present http://www.distinguishedwomen.com/alphabet/alphabet.html Former child migrants to Catholic Homes in Australia 1938-1965 http://members.iinet.net.au/~cbprov/phind.htm F-Secure Hoax Information Pages http://www.datafellows.com/hoaxes/wobbhoax.htm GenDoor Search Engine http://www.gendoor.com/ German Migration Resource Centre http://www.germanmigration.com/books/booksearch.asp History of the British Armed Forces http://british-forces.com/site_index.html Italian Relatives from the Past http://www.geocities.com/myitalianrelatives/Italian_Relatives_.html Joe's Links to Italy http://genealogy.sites.cc/ Kinship Charts http://www8.50megs.com/benzden/trekind.htm Monumental Inscriptions from Canterbury, New Zealand http://www.geocities.com/smdnz/gene/miindex.htm My Highland Roots http://www.myhighlandroots.com/ New Zealand Fighter Pilots Memorial http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/memorial/memorial.htm New Zealand Genealogy Sites Online http://www.angelfire.com/bc/Vincina/index.html Norfolk Graves http://members.tripod.co.uk/gorlestonfc/graves.HTM PATTERSON Andrew Barton http://www.uq.edu.au/~mlwham/banjo/biography.html PATERSON A.B. http://www.schools.ash.org.au/rochedale/banjo.htm PATERSON Andrew Barton Banjo http://www.waltzingmatilda.com/wmbanjo.html Queensland Place Names http://www.dnr.qld.gov.au/resourcenet/land/landservices/placenames/ Register of National Estate Data Base http://www.environment.gov.au/heritage/register/easydatabase/database.html Rossiter, Pat http://web.one.net.au/~rossiter/ Scottish Archive Network http://www.scan.org.uk/ Scottish Newspapers Microfilming Unit http://www.snmu.co.uk/ Somerset Pictures http://members.fortunecity.com/bdwfh/index.htm Stourbridge.com http://www.stourbridge.com/ Taye Valley Family History Society http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk/ The BDM Project http://bmdproject.rootsweb.com/ Welsh Genes http://welshgenes.homestead.com/ Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) Tall_Trees@Bigpond.com Tall Trees Family History ICQ 95915775 http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/ Perth Dead Person's Society http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/har02.html PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia (Please note that large attachments (over 500kb) will automatically be deleted) =============================================================== Genealogists never die, they just lose their roots.