Hello Jill, A bricklayers improver is a person who did not serve an apprenticeship as a bricklayer but did a crash course for about 12 months or so laying bricks and getting more money than an apprentice in their final year of apprenticeship. As an apprenticed Carpenter & Joiner in the early 1950s I was one of those apprentices who was disadvantaged by Improvers. Fortunately the Unions eventually got rid of improvers. Regards, Ray Wigraft Melbourne Australia > A Bricklayer's Improver?? Can anyone tell me what this is? Is it a real > job??- the context was that it was a qualification gained by a man who had > been working as a brickies labourer. He went on to become a builder. 1930s > era NSW. I have never heard the tem - only Bricklayer and bricklayer's > labourer. > Jill

Gidday all I just found a real strange one. Such a coincidence that I am still not sure that it isnt connected somehow. I was searching for children of John Thomas Webster and Sarah Anne Dawson. One of their grandchildren (my gr uncle) is Lionel Leslie Webster. In my searching a find another couple. John Thomas Webster CROPLEY married Sarah Anne Dawson. and had numerous kids one of which is.....yes you guessed it Lionel Leslie Cropley. Two Sarah Anne Dawson married to John Thomas Webster and John Thomas Webster Croply....someone is having me on i think!

Happy New Year to everyone, I'm just reposting my surname interests----- REYNOLDS, Birmingham & Australia post 1883, BAGGS, Berkshire, London, EARLE, London, Essex, SHARPE, Lincoln, Birmingham, SHERWELL,London, Devon WILLIAMS, Watford-Herts, YAXLEY Norfolk. Margaret Hamilton NZ.

For anyone interested in COWRA NSW their web site address is now: http://home.westserv.net.au/~fordhen/famhispage.html Hope this is of help to others. I offered to pass the new address on after I finally learnt it and the offer was happily accepted. Lyn

Hi to the List, Just a question off Genealogy please. We are trying to Internet network Sharing with 2000 Professional and we have ADSL and we just can't seem to get it to work is there anyone out there that has got this on their computers and perhaps help us with the set-up information please. Could you please email as soon as possible Thanking someone out there,and have a nice day tomorrow. Cheers for now Alice Norton

Darren- Wish you wouldn't use the term hahaha-this is the sender of the Snow White virus- got another one today!! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren <auzz@ihug.com.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Jumping off the fence!! > Dear List, > Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the > grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname > interests are as follows: > > Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton. > > Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, > Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) > Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) > Brisbane, Eumundi, > Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) > Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! > :o) > > Regards, > Darren Stevens > Brisbane, QLD. > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Australia's First and Biggest Genealogy Server > Announces ... Your Very Own, Free Webspace .. go to > http://www.southernx.com.au/webspace/personal_page.html > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hi all, On the Will of my Great Aunt, Elizabeth Lord is mention of Glen Harrison, 37 Garden St, Maroubra, 1938. He is desribed as Elizabeth's nephew. I cannot find Harrison anywhere on my family tree. Any help, any at all; greatly appreciated as I have never had contact with any of my Lord relatives. Bill Lord Wattle Glen

Hi All In our research on Thomas and Bridget Sweeney (nee Coleman) we have learned that according to family lore Bridget (perhaps with her infant son, Patrick) drowned in the Paramatta River about 1836. We have not been able to find a death record for either of them. Thomas remarried in 1838 to Margaret Meehan and then moved to Victoria. Could anyone advise if there are records other than BDMs which may have details of this incident and how and where we might access them. I will have one day in Sydney in February - so not much time to start from grass roots. Was there a local paper at the time and what was it called? Where would be the best place to search through copies? If anyone has access to Paramatta Cemetery records, is there any mention of either of these people? Thanks in advance Terri Bill & Terri van Lamoen \ e-mail bvl@multiline.com.au Perth Western Australia \ http://www.goodlink.nl/family Phone (08) 9401 0383 \ Fax (08) 9401 0604

Dear List, Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname interests are as follows: Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton. Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) Brisbane, Eumundi, Cooroy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! :o) Regards, Darren Stevens Brisbane, QLD.

Dear List, Im one of the 80 or so "fence sitters"!! Lets see if the grass IS greener on the other side then huh??? hahaha My surname interests are as follows: Buchanan,Colyer,Hird,Madden,Maddy,Stevens,Stokes,Warburton. Main areas include : Nowra, Shoalhaven, Milton, Deniliquin , Mullimbimby, Tomerong, Terara.(NSW) Horsham, Natimuk (VIC) Brisbane, Eumundi, Coorooy, Belli, Toowoomba (QLD) Hope someone out there is on the same path!!! :o) Regards, Darren Stevens Brisbane, QLD.

A Bricklayer's Improver?? Can anyone tell me what this is? Is it a real job??- the context was that it was a qualification gained by a man who had been working as a brickies labourer. He went on to become a builder. 1930s era NSW. I have never heard the tem - only Bricklayer and bricklayer's labourer. Jill

Kathy Yes by all means include into the family tree. Having had a child that died at birth, it was included..and others withing the overall family have said to please include within the family tree. and no doubt with all ancestors of the 19th, or 18th or even the 17th centuries and before hand would have said yes, and no doubt they would have commerated the birthday in some form or other. And yes the parents of the still born child would never forget the child, and no doubt they would have as the years passed by wondered how that the child would have developed both phyiscally and mentally, how it would have looked and acted for example when the child was say 10 years. 20 years, 30 years old or what ever year. Sorry to have raved on Murray -----Original Message----- From: Kathy & Peter Osborne <posborne@netspace.net.au> To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 3 January 2001 21:11 Subject: Still born children >Dear All, > >This is a general question. >Do we include in out family tree children who died at birth eg. still born. > These children are given full burials these days! > >I just wanted to know what everyone thought. > >Kathy >The Patch >Victoria >Australia. > > >==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== >Australia's First and Biggest Genealogy Server >Announces ... Your Very Own, Free Webspace .. go to >http://www.southernx.com.au/webspace/personal_page.html > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

From: shortis <shortis@spot.com.au Subject: ALEXANDER McGREGOR Date: 10th January, 2001 Hello List I am seeking any/some information of the above who lived his last years in Balranald/Ariah Park. He died in 1934. He was a wheelwright and was aged 73 when died. He was formally of Ulmarra and married Henrietta Constance Baker there, in 1885, when he was 24 years old. He was my g-grand father. Issue 1 only....Ilma Jane Undine Hammond McGregor. Did he marry again? Would anyone just happen to know something/anything about him.....? or would he have turned up in any of the books written about Balranald? I would appreciate any suggestion, help or information. The only other info I can add is that he had a brother, Edwards James, who lived in West Ryde, NSW. Thanking you. Mary Shortis shortis@spot.com.au

Would anybody on the list have any idea where this town is located? Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters NSW on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Hi Everyone. I have a photograph of a baby which has a letter written on the back of it. It was written 8 March 1909, from Korong Vale, by the grandmother of the baby whose name was Myrtle. I am guessing that Korong Vale is in country Victoria, possibly near Bendigo. Does anyone know if this is correct? The letter says that Seb and Mrs Geylls drove over to visit. The names Daphne and Sylvia were mentioned. There are no Geylls in the white pages. Would SKS who has access to Vic BDM records around 1909 be kind enough to look up a marriage between a Geylls and ? and the birth of Myrtle probably 1908 . The names Carey, Hiatt and Grimmett are possibles. Sorry this is all a bit vague. Many Thanks Jean in Sydney _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Looking for the death or any other reference to William Hamblin, married to Mary Ann Garlick in 1872 in Kyneton Victoria. Maybe in Mackinlay QLD as a carpenter in 1904. No children in Victoria, no death in Vic. If there is anyone with QLD indexes who could check for him, or any children I would appreciate it. Maybe in the Cloncurry area in 1940s but that would put him in his 90s. Jill

Looking for the family of John Charles Potter of Goodiwindi Denman Muswellbrook. Charlie married late in life to Eileen Walsh in 1934 it is believed Eileen was a nurse. John was known as Charlie and originally came from the Cavan Yass area.

Would sks know where I may be able to either purchase or borrow a book "Five Miles from Nowhere" about Nazeing. I am interested to the photo and reference to the PEGRUM family Many thanks Susan Jones nee Pegrum

Would Claire Gould contact me please - Re LAIDLAW family. Thanks Gerry Linton

Hello Listers I was wondering if anyone on the list knows where the records for Caulfield hospital (Melbourne) would be kept. My grandfather (FRANK PITHOUSE) served with the Australian army in the first world war and from his diary I know he was hospitalised just before the end of the war and on and off just after. I know he was wounded but I don't have many details. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Linda Essex England