Hi Everyone, Sorry if you have been waiting for the latest issue of Where are they now? but it seems the February issue of The Australian Women's Weekly does not have the column just like January. Seems like they have decided to drop the column. Will post it if it ever appears again. Regards, Peter N. Pidgeon 'Leafy' Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/pid01.html

seeking to make contact with any of the family or friends of Betty Mildred Luttrell born 1920 Lilydale Tasmania, dau of Betty Luttrell of Hobart in Tasmania. as a family member is seeking contact many thanks Jenny Fawcett

I am searching for details and or descendants of George Frederick LOWNS b. Newport,VIC 1890 son of William LOWNS (d. 1900 in Melbourne) and Louisa HOWARD (d. 1899 at Gundagai,NSW). He married in Murrumburrah,NSW 1917 Mary Alice DOWNEY (b. 1885). Also his sister Eva Ann b. Mitta Mitta,VIC 1893 who was adopted by her paternal aunt Frances SYNNOT (1860-1909) nee LOWNS She married in Williamstown 1922 Dillon Stephen BICKFORD Michael Daldry Melbourne, Australia LOWN mailing list at LOWN-L@rootsweb.com mjdaldry@bigpond.com

I am searching for EVA Maud WATT/S b. 1899 and or any descendants. On her mothers death in 1971 she is noted as Mrs WATT/S She was dau. Robert LOWNS & Annie Jane HILES (div. 1900) Any details welcome. Michael Daldry Melbourne, Australia mjdaldry@bigpond.com LOWN mailing list at LOWN-L@rootsweb.com

I am searching for Christina Maud ALBREY/EVANS b. 1901 and or any descendants. She married in 1924 Albert Henry ALBREY (b.1893) and in 1960 in the death notice for her sister she is noted as Mrs. EVANS. She was dau. John LOWNS & Kate SYNNOT Any details welcome. Michael Daldry Melbourne, Australia mjdaldry@bigpond.com LOWN mailing list at LOWN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi folks A big thanks to all you fabulous listers who responded to my plea for help on JAN WILLIAMS (nee SAY) who we have lost touch with in Oz. This didn't surprise me in the slightest as I am on several lists in the UK and receive great help from other listers. I am also presently helping several people in Oz trace their ancestors back here in Oxfordshire. I am totally convinced that listers are some of the friendliest and helpful people around. This has also stopped the missus from whingeing (a well know Brit trait) about the time I spend "on list". Well done to you all, you know who you are! Kind regards Julian

Yes the Eventide Home does still exist . You should be able to get address and phone number from www.telstra.com.au , I haven't got it here . As for the transcipt of the cemetery if you do find one I would love to know about it myself. Happy Hunting Carolyn Le Gay Brereton ----- Original Message ----- From: <AUSTRALIA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <AUSTRALIA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2001 10:00 Subject: AUSTRALIA-D Digest V01 #20

Subject: Query regarding book: Mechanical Eye > Sometime ago several people mentioned a photographic book named "The > Mechanical Eye". I have been unable to locate it in local bookshops here & > was hoping someone may be able to direct me to where they found their copies. The Mechanical Eye in Australia, photography 1841-1900 by Alan Davies & Peter Stanbury published1985, Oxford University Press Melbourne ISBN - 0- 19 - 554604 - 0 It's not cheap, I think still available at Gould Books of South Australia who have a web site (I don't have the URL at present as I/m offline). Regards, Ada

I am researching my great grandmother Mary NORTON, and her apparent partner of several years James CLAY. James was a bootmaker in Queenstown in the late 1890's and early 1900's, his father Richard was a bootmaker in the Kempton area (previously a convict from the "Nile"). From the electoral rolls and valuation rolls it appears that James and Mary lived together for several years, James' wife Mary (nee McNamara) had died in 1901. Mary had four children in Queenstown, Myrtle Lavinia born 1903, registered as NORTON, baptised 1904 as NORTON James Edward Clarence born 1904, registered as NORTON, baptised 1905 as CLAY Evelyn Dorothy born 1905, registered as CLAY, baptised 1912 in Hobart as NORTON Cecil Ronald born 1910, registered as NORTON, died 1910 It appears that James was the father of James junior and Evelyn, but possibly not the father of Myrtle and Cecil ? Mary later married Thomas Henry BUDD in Hobart in 1913, and they had four children, Mary died in Hobart in 1923. Does anyone have any connections or information ? Ray Hayes Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE

I am researching my great great grandfather William HAYES, who married Jane MCCLURE at Hadspen in 1861. Children were William born about 1861 at Longford, married 1. Elizabeth ROWE in 1885 at Deloraine, 2. Florence Louisa CORNICK in 1893 at Penguin, and 3. Agnes Eleanor/Helena BRETT in 1900 at Ulverstone. Jacob Henry (Henry) born 1863 at Longford, married Ann SMITH in 1884 at Ulverstone. Edmund born 1865 at Longford, married Agnes KAINE in 1889 at Penguin. Charles born 1866 at Longford, died 1867. Theophilus Adair (born Samuel) born 1868 at Longford, married Harriett Louisa DICKER in 1904 at Penguin. William senior was a convict, supposedly from the "Anson", who left Jane and the children about 1869, the three boys were subsequently placed in the Queens Orphanage, Hobart in 1872. There is no William HAYES listed on the "Anson", but there was one on the "Asiatic", and several events, places and dates suggest they may have been the same person ? Does anyone have any connections or information ? Ray Hayes Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE

I am researching my great grandfather Christopher DEACON, and his brother Godfrey, and sister Esther. Edward and Esther DEACON arrived in Australia on the "Norfolk" in 1874, with their children Godfrey, Esther and Christopher. I think some older children came out separately, but am not sure yet. Edward was a watchmaker in Little Collins Street, Russell Street, and later Chapel Street, Prahran. Godfrey married Dora LAWRENCE in 1886 in South Melbourne ? Victoria, no children found. Godfrey was a sewing machinist in the Sands & McDougall directory of 1878. Esther married Alfred William WEBB in 1885 in Victoria, known children were Alfred Harold born 1886 in Carlton, died 1887 in Richmond Edward John born 1887 in Port Melbourne, died 1889 in Brunswick Esther born and died 1889 in Brunswick East Rosaline Verlly born 1892 in Brunswick Thomas Livinston born 1898 in Foster Robert James born 1900 in Foster, died 1960 ? Esther died in 1900 near Foster, did Alfred WEBB re-marry ? Christopher married Alicia Eleanor ROARK in 1889 in Shepparton. children were John Albert (Bert) born 1890 in Lilydale, married Sarah Ann/Jane PULFORD Edward Leighton (Ted) born 1891 in South Melbourne, married Minnie DEACON Alfred Francis (Alf) born 1894 in Brunswick, married Myrtle Olga BRANSGROVE Emily Eleanor (Em) born 1895 in Werribee, married George CARRIS Florence Christina (Flo) born 1900 in North Melbourne, married Charles Gordon DOLPHIN Reginald George (Reg) born 1901 in North Melbourne, married Louisa Maud BRYANT Christopher was a plumber and gasfitter, and apparently a bit of an inventor. Christopher apparently left his family in the early 1900's, and I have been unable to find any further trace of him (or Godfrey). Did they go somewhere together ? Does anyone have any connections or information ? Ray Hayes Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE

I am researching my great great grandmother's brother who was born Edmund MCCLURE, but was later known as Edward EDMONDS, and most of their children were registered as EDMONDS in Victoria. Does anyone have any connections or information ? Known children were; William James MCCLURE, born and died 1875 Northcote, Victoria Edwin John EDMONDS, born about 1876/77, married 1902 to Mary Elizabeth SMITH known children Dorothy May born 1903, Victoria Norman Reg born 1904, Victoria John Richard born 1913, Victoria Mary Jane EDWARDs, born 1879 Port Melbourne, Victoria, married Samuel John AYLETT 1898 in Tasmania as Mary Jane MCCLURE. Sarah Elizabeth (Jean) EDMONDS born 1881 Richmond, Victoria, married 1918 Victoria to Adrian Everard GANGE, known children Adrain GANGE born 1914, Victoria Walter James EDMONDS, born and died 1884 Richmond, Victoria Walter Ernest EDMUNDS, born 1885 Richmond, Victoria, married 1920 Victoria to Myrtle Phyllis TURNBULL. William Henry EDMONDS, born 1887 Richmond, Victoria, married 1912 Victoria to Iris Stella ROBERTSON, known children Clyde Stanley born 1913 Victoria. Ethel Madeline MCCLURE, born 1890 Ulverstone, Tasmania, married ? WRIGHT. Edward EDMONDS, Batchelor ??, married Christina MITCHELL 1902 Melbourne, Victoria, known children Lilian Maude EDMONDS born 1902 Carlton, Victoria. I have been unable to find a death or divorce for Mary EDMONDS nee CONNOR. When Edmund died, his death was registered as Edward Edmonds MCCLURE. Ray Hayes Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE

Julian, Further to Judy's suggestion might I suggest you try contacting the Australian Electoral Commission ...... they are freely available for public viewing here in OZ...... not sure how you would go about it when you are out of the country. Perhaps they would answer an email enquiry ?? I would offer but I do not have one close by ( ie within a 2 hour drive) GLGH cheers Jennifer

Hi Julian, I did a quick check in the white pages and there are 2 possibilities listed below: Williams K J & T 468 Telegraph Rd Bracken Ridge 4017 (07) 3269 0110 Williams T 10 Hartree Crt Bracken Ridge 4017 (07) 3269 5958 Williams T R 10 Hartree Crt Bracken Ridge 4017 (07) 3269 0116 If these don't match ckeck the URL http://www.whitepages.com.au for other posibilities. Hope this helps. Judy Schramm Web Page: www.uq.net.au/~zzjschra Searching the world for Benzie/s Hiding is useless - I will find you > > We have lost a friend in Queensland due to loss of address and were hoping > someone could at least point us in the right direction. Jan SAY from Oz > married Terry Williams from Gloucester in the UK and they moved back to > their last known address in Bracken Ridge, Queenland aprox 1997/98. > > Terry was an accountant by occupation. Being a UK lister I thought it might > pay to ask if anybody could at least point us to a web site to try to track > her down as we are desperate to make contact. Knowing how helpful listers > are from my own experience maybe someone out there can help? > > Kind regards from a cold and wet (as usual) UK > > Julian Rogers > > > ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== > Subscribe to the AGI (Australian Genealogy Information) Bulletin > A Free Service for Australian Family Historians > http://www.southernx.com.au/ > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

TOOWOOMBA FAMILY HISTORY FAIR Hosted by Toowoomba Trackers Computer Users Group Inc. (for Family Historians) The Inaugural Fair is to be held Saturday 5th May 2001 from 9 am to 4 pm. at Centenary Heights State High School Cnr. South & Ramsay Sts. Toowoomba. Trackers envisage holding this Fair biennially. Several Stall Sites are still available - Why not come and join us. There will also be 10 Lectures throughout the day by very well known Guest Speakers, (Check out the Web site for full details) We will also be demonstrating Video Conferencing with a Group in Iowa USA. Lecture spaces are limited so bookings are being taken now. Prices: $5.00 pre-paid Entry $8.00 entry on the day. Children under 10 accomp. by adults - FREE $2.00 entry per lecture. There will be Lucky Door Prizes at each lecture and throughout the day in the main Hall. A Centenary of Federation Photographic Competition is also being held. All Fair Enquiries & Bookings to Activities Co-ordinator: Bev Borey Ph: 07 4636 1113 or Email: boreylog@one.net.au Enquiries and Applications for the Photography to: Kathy White Ph: 07 5466 5650 or Email: white@hypermax.net.au We look forward to possibly sharing the day with you. Beverley Borey - Activities Co-ordinator. Toowoomba Trackers Computer Users Group Inc. (for Family Historians" Visit our Home Page at - http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Garden/5712/trackers.html Photo Collection of Headstones CD's http://www.icr.com.au/~tonypool/

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Hi listers We have lost a friend in Queensland due to loss of address and were hoping someone could at least point us in the right direction. Jan SAY from Oz married Terry Williams from Gloucester in the UK and they moved back to their last known address in Bracken Ridge, Queenland aprox 1997/98. Terry was an accountant by occupation. Being a UK lister I thought it might pay to ask if anybody could at least point us to a web site to try to track her down as we are desperate to make contact. Knowing how helpful listers are from my own experience maybe someone out there can help? Kind regards from a cold and wet (as usual) UK Julian Rogers

Does the wording on a marriage notice in SMH 'married at the Court House, by special license" mean anything sinister? (the 'by special licence' - what did it mean) The date was March 1853 in Aubury NSW. Colleen Central Coast

--=====================_2144335==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Colin, There are a few Rivett births in the Tasmanian Pioneer Index, see the attached Comma Delimited Text file (import into Excel etc). At 01:52 PM 24/01/01 +0000, you wrote: >My gg grandfather Alfred WATERS married Kate RIVETT in Kent, England >abt.1868. According to a local 1891 census Kate was originally from >Australia, possibly Holbosh Town born abt.1848. I was hoping that someone >may be able to tell me something about Holbosh town and it's whereabouts. I >have had two people suggest that this could be Hobart Town, Tasmania but I >am completely stuck. >Also, I believe that another WATERS (Samuel) moved to Australia during the >early 1900's. I would be interested to hear from anyone researching the >WATERS name in or around the County of Kent, England. > >Thanks > >Colin Waters > > >==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== >Australia's First and Biggest Genealogy Server >Announces ... Your Very Own, Free Webspace .. go to >http://www.southernx.com.au/webspace/personal_page.html > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog Ray Hayes Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Researching HAYES, NORTON, CLAY, DEACON, DELVE, SIDNEY, McCLURE, THORNE --=====================_2144335==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Rivett Births Tasmanian Pioneer Index.TXT" "ID","SURNAME","GIVEN NAME(S)","EVENT","SEX","FATHER","MOTHER","REGISTRATION PLACE","EVENT DATE","EVENT YEAR","REGISTRATION YEAR","REGISTRATION NUMBER","RGD NO" 160133,"RIVETT","AMY ELIZABETH","B","F","ALBERT","CHERBURG ELIZABETH","ESPERANCE","24JUL","1882","1882","1197","33" 160135,"RIVETT","ELLEANOR HARRIET","B","F","ALBERT","CHERBURY ELIZABETH","ESPERANCE","27SEP","1883","1883","691","33" 160132,"RIVETT","ALBERT CHERBURY DAVI","B","M","ALBERT","CHERBURY ELIZABETH MARY A","ESPERANCE","04DEC","1885","1886","1378","33" 160137,"RIVETT","M","B","M","JOHN","HATHAM MARIA","LAUNCESTON","15SEP","1856","1856","851","33" 160134,"RIVETT","ELIZABETH","B","F","JOHN","STATAM MARIA","LAUNCESTON","17FEB","1863","1863","75","33" 160136,"RIVETT","HENRY JOHN","B","M","JOHN","STATHAN MARIA","LAUNCESTON","04OCT","1858","1858","1202","33" 160139,"RIVETT-CARNAC","FLORA VIOLET ELEANOR","B","F","HARRY MOORLAND","SMITH ELEANOR","HORTON","04JUL","1888","1888","1956","33" 160140,"RIVETT-CARNAC","HARRY MORELAND","B","M","HARRY MORELAND","SMITH ELEANOR","STANLEY","17SEP","1892","1892","2494","33" 160141,"RIVETT-CARNAC","HOLLY GLADYS","B","F","HARRY MORELAND","SMITH ELEANOR","MONTAGU","00JAN","1898","1898","1551","33" 160142,"RIVETT-CARNAC","MURIEL IRENE","B","F","HARRY MORLAND","SMITH ELEANOR","STANLEY","13JAN","1890","1890","3213",

Hi Michelle, Great site, have just regestered. Thanks for that. Judy Schramm Web Page: http://www.uq.net.au/~zzjschra Searching the world for Benzie/s Hiding is useless - I will find you