Thank you to Jenny, Neville and Marg for the following. Sophia arrived on the Princess Charlotte 1827. In the 1828 census of the Colony of NSW, a Sarah ZEALEY was a servant of a William COLLINS in George St Sydney along with her 3 yo dau Mary Ann and that this the only main surviving census. Also a Mary A. Zealy died V18281237 12 1828, INFANT SYDNEY, ST JAMES' CHURCH OF ENGLAND. Can anyone recommend where I could look to see if she left the country - this would be 1834 onwards. I have tried shipping lists, with no luck. Thanks, Helen South Australia

I found the death of Mary Ann Zealy an infant in 1828 which is probably the daughter of Sophia 1828 V18281237 12 1828 ZEALY MARY A INFANT SYDNEY, ST JAMES' CHURCH OF ENGLAND ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Angela GMX wrote: > Hello members, > > This is my first time in this list. My name is Angela, I´m 35 years old and I live in the south of Germany. I search my ancestors and the siblings since June 2005. My ancestors came from the province Posen respectively Upper- and Under Silesia (now Poland). > > I´m looking for Emma and Pauline DITTMANN. They are the sisters of my great-grandfather. They were born in Reichwald (County Wohlau in Under Silesia). They emigrated from Bremen to America by boat "Rhein" in 1907 and came always from Hamburg to America by boat "President Grant" in 1909. They lived in Brooklyn by Mrs. Peters (I don´t know about this woman). > > Emma was born 1883 or 1884 and Pauline 1876 or 1879 (Ellis Island says on the homepage, Pauline was 31 years old when she arrived America at 13 May 1907 and Pauline was 30 years old when she arrived Brooklyn/America at 7 October 1909 ... !?). Probably emigrated from America to Australia approximately 1910. Pauline married a goldsmith or jeweler or clockmaker (he is german pedigree). I don´t know his name unfortunately. Pauline and her husband has a child (son?). The child was very sick. Emma DITTMANN died in period 1943 - 1947. > > I´m looking for birth, marriage and death dates and the places of the sisters. Where do they lived? What are the names of Paulines husband and son? What were the occupations? Do you know if there are descendants in Australia? I hope someone can help me. Thank you very much. > > Sorry, my English isn´t very well. At present I´m learning this language. > > Best regards from Germany, > Angela Angela - Hello It appears that Emma and Pauline came to Sydney sometime before 1920. Emma Johanna K. Dittmann married Gustav Adolf Knabe at Sydney, New South Wales, in 1921. Gustav, whose parents were Frederick Wilhelm and Auguste Loerse, died in 1950 at North Sydney. Emma died at Manly, a Sydney suburb, in 1963. Her parents were Wilhelm Gottlieb and Karoline Christine. Could not find any children to the marriage but there was a marriage registered to Max Albert Knabe to Myrtle Lillian Truscott at Broken Hill, New South Wales, in 1954. Pauline J. Dittmann married Frank H. Maynard at Sydney in 1922. The only other mention of the couple is that Frank was born at Parkes in 1898 to William A. and Mary Maynard and died at Dubbo, New South Wales, in 1927. As your English is much better than my German I hope you can make sense of this. Regards Neville Bellambi NSW Au

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross, Helen (DTEI)" <Helen.Ross2@saugov.sa.gov.au> To: <AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: [AUST] Sophia Zealey > Hi all. > > Would SKS be able to tell me what happened to Sophia > Zealey, NSW Convict, after she got her Certificate of > Freedom in 1834 - she had been transported for 7 years > for stealing and left behind her husband Robert and > daughter Sophia in U.K. I have checked NSW BDM but > there is no record there. > Hi Helen In the 1828 census of the Colony of NSW Sarah ZEALEY was a servant of a William COLLINS in George St Sydney along with her 3 yo dau Mary Ann > Would someone have access to any census records that > time? > This the only main surviving census When your searching for convict info it helps alot if you included the name of the ship as this was part of the convicts identity Perhaps she left the country ? Suggest you try re posting of the AUS-PJ- Convicts mailing list. Bye MargM AUSTRALIA List Admin

Found on State Records - Certificates of Freedom - no marriage or death found Search hits Surname Firstname Alias Vessel Year CFNo Date SRRef Film Remarks Order ZEALEY Sophia Princess Charlotte 1827 33/1354 14 Dec 1833 4/4319 992 ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Ross, Helen (DTEI) wrote: > Hi all. > > Would SKS be able to tell me what happened to Sophia Zealey, NSW Convict, after she got her Certificate of Freedom in 1834 - she had been transported for 7 years for stealing and left behind her husband Robert and daughter Sophia in U.K. I have checked NSW BDM but there is no record there. > > Would someone have access to any census records that time? > > Thanks > > Helen Ross > South Australia Helen Try the NSW Records Office at <http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/staterecords/> Good luck Neville

Hi all. Would SKS be able to tell me what happened to Sophia Zealey, NSW Convict, after she got her Certificate of Freedom in 1834 - she had been transported for 7 years for stealing and left behind her husband Robert and daughter Sophia in U.K. I have checked NSW BDM but there is no record there. Would someone have access to any census records that time? Thanks Helen Ross South Australia

Hello members, This is my first time in this list. My name is Angela, I´m 35 years old and I live in the south of Germany. I search my ancestors and the siblings since June 2005. My ancestors came from the province Posen respectively Upper- and Under Silesia (now Poland). I´m looking for Emma and Pauline DITTMANN. They are the sisters of my great-grandfather. They were born in Reichwald (County Wohlau in Under Silesia). They emigrated from Bremen to America by boat "Rhein" in 1907 and came always from Hamburg to America by boat "President Grant" in 1909. They lived in Brooklyn by Mrs. Peters (I don´t know about this woman). Emma was born 1883 or 1884 and Pauline 1876 or 1879 (Ellis Island says on the homepage, Pauline was 31 years old when she arrived America at 13 May 1907 and Pauline was 30 years old when she arrived Brooklyn/America at 7 October 1909 ... !?). Probably emigrated from America to Australia approximately 1910. Pauline married a goldsmith or jeweler or clockmaker (he is german pedigree). I don´t know his name unfortunately. Pauline and her husband has a child (son?). The child was very sick. Emma DITTMANN died in period 1943 - 1947. I´m looking for birth, marriage and death dates and the places of the sisters. Where do they lived? What are the names of Paulines husband and son? What were the occupations? Do you know if there are descendants in Australia? I hope someone can help me. Thank you very much. Sorry, my English isn´t very well. At present I´m learning this language. Best regards from Germany, Angela

I've not come across your great grandfather, Dottie, but my grandparents, Edward WALKER and Nettie HARRIS were married in Coimbatore in 1903 and honeymooned in Ooty. Nettie's uncle, Sir Robert STANES (schools in Coimbatore and Ooty are named after him and his brother) owned plantation(s?) near Ooty. Any connections, do you think? Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia ----------------------------------- Please reply via the newsgroup/mailing list, so that all may benefit from the discussion. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dottayg@aol.com> To: <> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: [AUST] (no subject) > searching for more information on my gr.grandfather >> WILLIAM G. HIGGINS born in the 1800's in Ireland and >> then went to Australia >> and finally to OOTACAMUND, INDIA. >> He owned a tea plantation in OOTY, married and died >> there. >> A street in OOTY has been named after him and is still >> there. >> Any info would help >> Dottie >> >>

searching for more information on my gr.grandfather > WILLIAM G. HIGGINS born in the 1800's in Ireland and > then went to Australia > and finally to OOTACAMUND, INDIA. > He owned a tea plantation in OOTY, married and died > there. > A street in OOTY has been named after him and is still > there. > Any info would help > Dottie > >

Thomas Look on http//members.ozemail.com.au/~clday/ It's from Cyndi's List under Colonies and possessions there a whole section on research in India. Gail Hanger -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Lowell [mailto:Thomas.Lowell@lands.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, 26 April 2006 1:19 PM To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUST] Dear All, I am trying to find the location of Birth Marriage & Dearth Records for 1820 to 1900 for Europeans born in Singapore Straits Settlements. I have tried Singapore itself, but their records do not go back to Colonial Days. Any suggestions are welcome. Tom Lowell *************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the Department of Lands. This email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. *************************************************************** ==== AUSTRALIA Mailing List ==== Please type all surnames in caps. Helps them stand out in text on a computer screen ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Giiddaayyee Listers, ANZAC Day is a Day of Remembrance and is precious to many. This day is Twofold - The Hill's of Albert Park, 3206 Vic sadly remember this day as the time our Uncle James William Henry Hill was killed at Mouquet Farm, Pozieres, France on 26th August, 1916. I have an excellent photograph of the 21st Bat. taken at Broadmeadows prior to their departure overseas. Should anyone like to receive a copy please email me at talhill@melbpc.org.au LEST WE FORGET. Kind regards, TALES Talbot R Hill, (Mr), Email: talhill@melbpc.org.au 8 Barrett St., Albert Park Vic 3206 AUSTRALIA Phone: (03) 9690 5707 Mobile: 0419 311 439 FAX: (03) 9699 6547 Member: G.S.V.; A.I.G.S. Melb PC Users (Aust) GUM, Irish Ancestry Group(Melb) Dead Persons Society (Melb)

Dear All, I am trying to find the location of Birth Marriage & Dearth Records for 1820 to 1900 for Europeans born in Singapore Straits Settlements. I have tried Singapore itself, but their records do not go back to Colonial Days. Any suggestions are welcome. Tom Lowell *************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the Department of Lands. This email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ***************************************************************

this is the family that came to Australia (not everyone did) where are these on the Scotland and Australian census ? Queensland ? I would like to find living relatives Andrew Hodge b 1826/27 Cumnock Ayrshire Scotland m d Mar 11,1909 Cumnock Ayrshire Scotland spouse Janet Dunbar b 1835 new Cumnock Ayrshire Scotland d Apr 10,1906 Old cumnock Ayrshire Scotland children 1) Janet Hodge b 1855 Auchlineck Ayrshire Scotland 2) William Hodge b Nov 16,1856 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland m d Feb 25,1899 Govan (Scotland or Australia?) spouse Elizabeth Bell Little b Aug 26,1857 Catrine Ayrshire Scotland d Aug 4,1899 Catrine Ayrshire Scotland children 1) William Hodge b 1884 Lanarkshire Scotland 2) Andrew Hodge b 1887 Lanarkshire Scotland 3) Agnes Hodge (this family came to Austraalia) b 1888 Glasgow Scotland m d spouse George Ambrose Pearse or Pierce b d 1937 Australia children 1) William Pearse b Oct 11,1911 m Sept 14,1968 Brisbane Queensland Australia spouse Lorna Ledger b Mar 10,1910 d children ? 2) George Ambrose Pearse b Dec 8,1912 Watsonville Queensland Australia m Nov 14,1937 Carins Australia d spouse Eileen May Griner b Sept 18,1914 Marleeba Queensland Australia d 3) Richard Sidney Pearse b Nov 26,1914 m d spouse Jean Mavis Stiff b d children ? 3) Ellen Hendry Hodge b 1858 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland 4) Ellen Hodge b 1860 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland 5) Georgina Hodge b 1862 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland 6) Agnes Hodge b 1866 Auchinleck Scotland 7) Sarah Smith Hodge b Jan 1,1868 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland m d Feb 6,1924 Paisley Renfrewshire Scotland spouse William Smit Allan b d Feb 8,1924 children 1) ? 2) Jane Wilson Allan b Dec 25,1899 d Aug 13,1973 spouse Robert Kelly Fraser b d 8) Mary Alexander Hodge b Apr 24,1870 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland 9) Andrew Lammie(Lambie?) Hodge b Jan 28,1872 Auchinleck Ayrshire Scotland 10) John Hodge b ? thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

Could SKS please see it there were any births in [poss Broken Hill] to James Henry THOMAS and wife Margaret nee CORNISH. Last reg birth on the online indexes was Mary N in 1902. Their next reg birth that I can find was Dorinda 15/11/1917 in SA. Regards Dianne

In the United States is a whole industry establishing genealogical links specifically to the Plantagenet kings of England. As a result, quite a number of Americans can find their ancestry all the way to Charlemagne and so covering more than a 1000 years of ancestry. To me it is not important (but it is interesting) to be able to link with nobility or royalty, but in most cases this is the only way to be able to go back so far in time. Also when one such ancestor is found, this usually gives ancestors in many, if not all, European countries. I have a website http://www.genealogics.org which may provide some these links, even for a fair number of Australians. I would love to hear from anyone in Australia who thinks they can link to nobility or royalty. With best wishes Leo van de Pas Canberra, Australia

At 12:36 21-04-06, earoberts@bigpond.com wrote: >My experience is from before the ready access to computers and out tress >were hand drawn but ><snip> >Each family branch had a separate section of the hall to pin up stuff. Lay >photos on tables ect. Everyone brings photos each branch had a tree for that >section. <snip> Hello Listers, My experience is as a local historian attending family reunions as a key speaker and to offer local background to the family origins in my part of Australia. I think one of the major advices to attendees and organisers is NOT to put on display original photographs. Your mind would boggle at the number of descendants who "rescue" family photos from others for their own collections! Even complete albums! One of the features I used to offer was the use of a photocopier, both for those with original photos so that they could put a copy on display and keep their precious originals in their own hands, and secondly so that those who would like a copy could approach the owner, go together to the photocopier, and both come away satisfied. In the old days before scanners, I used to set up my photographic copying equipment, have identity forms on each photo filled out (owner, address, name of subject, year photo taken, occasion, and a name and address space below for multiple requests for copies, together in a pad, numbered for each negative. At the end of the day I developed the film, made a "contact sheet" of the 35 mm negs, posted the lot off to the organiser. Everyone knew the organiser, and they contacted her to organise prints of the photos and pay in advance. Because of this, I never heard from any organiser that photos were stolen. But, now all you need is a photocopier. You can go home then, and scan the copies into your computer. And the equipment is so cheap now, in comparison to when I offered that service back in the 1980/90s. Regards Ada Ackerly, Melbourne Formerly Ackerly Docusearch -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/320 - Release Date: 20-04-06

My experience is from before the ready access to computers and out tress were hand drawn but We allocated each branch of the family a separate colour. We handed out ribbons of the appropriate colour to everyone as they arrived. Each family branch had a separate section of the hall to pin up stuff. Lay photos on tables ect. Everyone brings photos each branch had a tree for that section. Original couple that arrived in Australia, their children then the descent of the appropriate child. I have been to another family reunion in a park where the organisers put together a family tree that was many meters long laminated attached to a rope and hung between the trees in the park the trees. Have Fun Regards Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: Lynette Begg [mailto:dandlbegg@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 8:23 AM To: AUSTRALIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Family Reunion experience needed Hello fellow family historians, Has anyone had experience in putting on a family reunion? If so, would you be so kind as to advise me of what you found to work regarding displaying the family tree in all its branches and descendants? I will have a computer there, and photos etc, but want to display the tree on the wall for people to look at. If it helps, the main couple had 5 surviving children. One had 1 child, another 2 children, another 3, but the other two had 6 and 7 children. There are 1533 people recorded in this family to date including spouses and up to 8 generations. Is it better to have the earliest generations say up to grandchildren, or even great grandchildren in one section with a reference then to a separate section for the next generation and their descendants elsewhere in the building? Do photos fit well in a display like this? I would love to know if a particular program helps with displays other than what the family tree program produces. Has anyone done this before and knows what works or what doesn't work please? Any other good suggestions as to what to display or have available would be good as well. I've got several things planned but would appreciate suggestions in case I've missed something really important! Many thanks in advance. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia Calling all descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LOUTIT (LIGHTFOOT) to attend a Sutherland Family Reunion on Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. more info? Are you related? Visit http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion BROBBEL One Name Study - Guild member 4139 researching all BROBBELs at any time, anywhere, any place. The Australian Museum of Clothing And Textiles Inc. http://www.geocities.com/amcat_inc

Hello fellow family historians, Has anyone had experience in putting on a family reunion? If so, would you be so kind as to advise me of what you found to work regarding displaying the family tree in all its branches and descendants? I will have a computer there, and photos etc, but want to display the tree on the wall for people to look at. If it helps, the main couple had 5 surviving children. One had 1 child, another 2 children, another 3, but the other two had 6 and 7 children. There are 1533 people recorded in this family to date including spouses and up to 8 generations. Is it better to have the earliest generations say up to grandchildren, or even great grandchildren in one section with a reference then to a separate section for the next generation and their descendants elsewhere in the building? Do photos fit well in a display like this? I would love to know if a particular program helps with displays other than what the family tree program produces. Has anyone done this before and knows what works or what doesn't work please? Any other good suggestions as to what to display or have available would be good as well. I've got several things planned but would appreciate suggestions in case I've missed something really important! Many thanks in advance. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia Calling all descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LOUTIT (LIGHTFOOT) to attend a Sutherland Family Reunion on Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. more info? Are you related? Visit http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion BROBBEL One Name Study - Guild member 4139 researching all BROBBELs at any time, anywhere, any place. The Australian Museum of Clothing And Textiles Inc. http://www.geocities.com/amcat_inc

William & Caroline WILCOX arrived in Australia on Roxburgh Castle May 1839 with 5 of their children. 1 William WILCOX (1805 - 1880) & Caroline CORNELIUS (1795 - 1858) 1 Richard Cornelius WILCOX (1829 - 1906) & Margaret FORAN (1830 - 1909) 2 William WILCOX* (1831 - 1901) & Unnamed & Eliza Mary Agnes THORNTON (1828 - 187 & Mary Ann HAYWOOD (1851 - 1924) 3 John WILCOX (1833 - 1898) & Mary Ann HUMPHRIES (1841 - 1938) 4 Thomas WILCOX (1836 - 1900) & Barbara HUGHES (1839 - 1919) 5 Edwin (Edward) WILCOX (1837 - 1909) & Susannah DAWSON (1840 - 1912) 6 Henry Robert WILCOX (1841 - 1923) & Harriet Jane ROBINSON (1857 - 1945) 7 Daughter WILCOX A reunion of the Wilcox family and other pioneering families from the Oberon district in NSW will be held on the 28th and 29th October 2006 at Oberon. If you are a descendant of the Oberon Wilcox clan please visit our website at www.wilcoxreunion.com or email us at wilcox@wilcoxreunion.com for details of the reunion. If you are unable to attend the reunion we would be very grateful if you would send us any information you may have about your branch of the family. Please include as much information as you are comfortable with including details of your parents, grandparents, old photo’s and general history etc. ( ie grandfather was a shearer in the 40’s etc). This information will be included in the family history and will be placed in a time capsule at Oberon during the reunion. Many thanks and kind regards Rob Wilcox, Sally Northey Email:- wilcox@wilcoxreunion.com