Hello Everyone, We have had a great response to our new look SIMPLY AUSTRALIA site. The site has articles, poetry, songs, etc on Australian history, folklore and heritage. Thanks to everyone who has visited and especially to those who have posted comments. They certainly help make the site a more dynamic and interesting place. Please read the "ABOUT US" section on the site, especially the submission guides, as we would love to consider you work for inclusion. Register for updates (or subscribe to RSS feeds) and do comment on the site in the comment boxes with your thoughts and ideas! This is as much your site as it is ours. Best wishes, Valda - for Simply Australia The latest additions to the site include: ARTICLES: Ludwig Leichhardt - Above the Ordinary http://simplyaustralia.net/?p=40 Early Settlers of Castlereagh http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?p=34 Hunting Down the Old Bush Songs - The Role of David Scott Mitchell http://simplyaustralia.net/?p=33 Remembering Tempe Tram Depot - Merv Johnson Takes Us Down Memory Lane http://simplyaustralia.net/?p=38 REVISITED ARTICLES include: The Eldorado Mining Disaster http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?p=42 Kokoda: Track or Trail http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?p=32 LATEST POETRY http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?cat=4 R. G. Hay 1815 First Arrivals A. B. “Banjo” Paterson The Lost Leichhardt Dudley C. Pye AM JP Hand in Hand Marching At The Front John Low At Cox’s River, Blue Mountains FEATURED SONG: Dreaming with Open Eyes - Jim Low (about the explorer Leichhardt) http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?p=41 -- -- SIMPLY AUSTRALIA: website: http://simplyaustralia.net email: thefolk@simplyaustralia.net

One of my ancestors in Victoria was named a "Gentleman", and his wife a "Lady", on various documents in the 1850's, 60's. In England before their arrival the wife was a domestic servant. He was a mariner. I imagine this terminology was used because he had land and money. I have looked up the dictionary and found this but I don't think he was a man of refined manners. Or how does one know if he was a man well born? 1. A man well born; one of good family; one above the condition of a yeoman. 2. One of gentle or refined manners; a well-bred man. 3. (Her.) One who bears arms, but has no title. 4. The servant of a man of rank. The count's gentleman, one Cesario. --Shak. Any thoughts on this is very much appreciated. Best wishes Amanda - Sydney, NSW.

I have listed a whole stack of Books relating to Aust Genealogy on E-bay for sale Clearing the bookshelves and spare room out of excesses that I no longer need. Search under Genealogy on E-bay Regards Susan Stubbs stubbinsky@optusnet.com.au mini_monster@optusnet.com.au

Good morning listers, I am trying to find some information and possibly living rellies of the family below. George Henry HOWEL(L) was the SOUTH AUSTRALIAN born son of Henry Arthur John HOWEL(L) & wife Edith Eliza BUTLER. I am hoping someone on the list may have some information on this family TIA. Regards, Dorne. ****************************************************************************************** MARRIAGE - SOUTH AUSTRALIA Groom: HOWELL Given names: George Henry Bride: COUSINS Given names: Elsie May Date: 1914-08-25 Groom Age: 31 Status: S Groom's Father: Henry Arthur John HOWELL Bride Age: 27 Status: S Bride's Father: Josephus COUSINS Place: Holy Trinity Church Adelaide District: Ade Symbol: Book/Page: 260/531 Cross Reference: DEATHS - VICTORIA Surname: HOWELL Given Names: Elsie May Father: Cousins Joseph Mother: Hannah LOWE Death Place: COLA----COLAC, VICTORIA Age: 73 Age Code: Year: 1959 Reg Number: 27385 Event: D Surname: HOWELL Given Names: George Henry Father: Henry Arthur Mother: Edith Eliza BUTLER Death Place: PRES-------PRESTON, VICTORIA Age: 81 Age Code: Year: 1964 Reg Number: 14530 Event: D ****************************************************************************************** 1) Surname: HOWELL Given Names: Audrey Lillian Date: 1915-07-26 Sex: F Father: George Henry HOWELL Mother: Elsie May COUSINS Birth Place/Residence: Mount Gambier--------------SOUTH AUSTRALIA District Code: Gre Symbol: Book: 963 Page: 266 Cross Reference: ******************************************************************************** 2) *Edna Edith HOWELL did not marry; served in WW2, died about 2002 in (COLAC ?? ) VICTORIA Surname: HOWELL Given Names: Edna Edith Date: 1917-02-16 Sex: F Father: George Henry HOWELL Mother: Elsie May COUSINS Birth Place/Residence: Mount Gambier--------------SOUTH AUSTRALIA District Code: Gre Symbol: Book: 993 Page: 403 Cross Reference: ******************************************************************************** 3) Surname: HOWELL Given Names: Llewellyn George Date: 1918-08-31 Sex: M Father: George Henry HOWELL Mother: Elsie May COUSINS Birth Place/Residence: Mount Gambier--------------SOUTH AUSTRALIA District Code: Gre Symbol: Book: 24A Page: 245 Cross Reference: Family Name: HOWELL Given Name: Llewellyn Geo Spouse Family Name: TRELOAR Spouse Given Name: Annie Best Joy Registration Year: 1941 Registration Number: 14540 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M------------------------------VICTORIA Surname: TRELOAR Given Names: Annie Best Joy Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Saml Jno Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Annie Best KNIGHT Age: Age Code: Birth Place: PORTLAND Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 6552 ****************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ***********************************************

Archive CD books have been scanning some NSW Police Gazettes and re publishing on CD They have put the 1890 - 1910 indexes to these on their web site as PDF files you can download and check out for any 'skeletons' . So its a real try before you buy ! http://www.archivecdbooks.com.au/ NSW State Records, The Rocks and Kingswood and the Mitchell Library and Gosford Library ( wow ! ) have these gazettes on film from 1862 to early 1930's Bye MargM List Admin Sydney, New England, Hunter Valley, Central Coast , Australia lists

Hi Listers, Although I am not presently subscribed to the list I recall someone on the list a while back was looking for a John ROSS parents John ROSS & Mary RAIN...........? Sorry, I cannot recall the actual surname give for the mother; "RAIN....." something. I found this death in YALLOURN, VICTORIA and wondered if it may be the person being researched. The John shown below does not appear to have been AUSTRALIAN born, at least I have not been able to find a birth registration or christening in any State that suits him. Regards, Dorne. ***************************************************************************** DEATH Surname: ROSS Given Names: Jno Father: Ross Jno Mother: Mary RAINER Death Place: YALLOURN Age: 64---------------------------------------BORN C<1875> Age Code: Year: 1939 Reg Number: 15564 Event: D ******************************************************************************* Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ***********************************************

Good morning listers, I am trying to find some more information and possibly living rellies of the family below. Albert & Florence Mary CARTER nee PITCHER came to VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA from ENGLAND around 1911, Regards, Dorne. ***************************************************************************************** DEATH Surname: CARTER Given Names: Florence May Father: Pitcher John F--------------------John F. PITCHER Mother: UNKNOWN----------------------Sophia PAINTER Death Place: PARK Age: 72----------------------------------BORN C<1887> Age Code: Year: 1959 Reg Number: 2096 Event: D CHILDREN Surname: CARTER Given Names: Gladys Gert Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Albt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Flor PITCHER Age: Age Code: Birth Place: CARLTON Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 20118 MARRIAGE Family Name: CARTER Given Name: Gladys Gerte Spouse Family Name: HAYES Spouse Given Name: Jno Fran Registration Year: 1936 Registration Number: 4826 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M ****************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ***********************************************

Good morning listers, I wondered if anyone on the list may know any at all about Albert "George" PITCHER, known as "George". George came to AUSTRALIA in 1911, previously married in ENGLAND, but did not re-marry in AUSTRALIA. George lived in RICHMOND, VICTORIA and his death is registered at BALWYN, VICTORIA. TIA. Regards, Dorne. ***************************************************************************************** DEATH Surname: PITCHER Given Names: Albert George Father: Unknown--------------------John F. PITCHER Mother: UNKNOWN----------------Sophia PAINTER Death Place: BALW----------------BALWYN, VICTORIA Age: 81--------------------------------BORN C<1883> Age Code: Year: 1964 Reg Number: 6561 Event: D ***************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ***********************************************

Hi Listers, I am trying to find some more information and possibly living rellies of the family below. Philip & Matilda GRAY nee PITCHER came to VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA from ENGLAND around 1911, Regards, Dorne. ***************************************************************************************** DEATHS Surname: GRAY Given Names: Philip Percy Father: Unknown Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN Death Place: MELB Age: 61---------------------------BORN C<1885> Age Code: Year: 1946 Reg Number: 5400 Event: D Surname: GRAY Given Names: Matilda Caroline Father: Pitcher John--------------------John F. PITCHER Mother: Sophia PAINTER Death Place: GLEN---------------possibly GLENROY Age: 92------------------------------------BORN C<1882> Age Code: Year: 1974 Reg Number: 11245 Event: D CHILDREN Surname: GRAY Given Names: Philip Percy Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Philip Percy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Matda PITCHER Age: Age Code: Birth Place: CARL-----------------------CARLTON Death Place: Year: 1911 Reg. Number: 9888 MARRIAGE Family Name: GRAY Given Name: Philip Percy Spouse Family Name: BURGESS Spouse Given Name: Hilda Norma Registration Year: 1942 Registration Number: 5579 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M DEATHS Surname: GRAY Given Names: Percy Philip Father: Philip Percy Mother: Matilda PITCHER Death Place: YARR--------------YARRA or YARRAM Age: 63 Age Code: Year: 1975 Reg Number: 1622 Event: D Surname: GRAY Given Names: Hilda Norma Father: Burgess Harold Mother: Christina Death Place: FRAN----------FRANKSTON Age: 66 Age Code: Year: 1980 Reg Number: 20722 Event: D Surname: BURGESS Given Names: Hilda Norma Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Harold Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ctina Adrina MCDONALD Age: Age Code: Birth Place: NORTHCOTE Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 6365 ****************************************************************************************** Surname: GRAY Given Names: Marjorie Violet Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Philip Percy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Matda Carol PITCHER Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HAWTH---------------------HAWTHORN Death Place: Year: 1912 Reg. Number: 30806 MARRIAGE Family Name: GRAY Given Name: Marj Vi Spouse Family Name: DUNN Spouse Given Name: Harry Lewis Registration Year: 1937 Registration Number: 14914 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Surname: DUNN Given Names: Harry Lewis Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Albt Peter Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Rose Ellen USHER Age: Age Code: Birth Place: PRN-----------------------PRAHAN Death Place: Year: 1909 Reg. Number: 5697 DEATHS None found to 1985 ****************************************************************************************** Surname: GRAY Given Names: Kleen May Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Philip Percy Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Matilda Carol PITCHER Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SANDHAM--SANDRINGHAM Death Place: Year: 1917 Reg. Number: 7223 MARRIAGE Family Name: GRAY Given Name: Kathleen May Spouse Family Name: COOK Spouse Given Name: Eric Grant Registration Year: 1940 Registration Number: 20046 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M Surname: COOK Given Names: Eric Grant Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: David Ellis Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Nellie Maria GRANT Age: Age Code: Birth Place: POOWONG Death Place: Year: 1904 Reg. Number: 12614 DEATHS Surname: COOK Given Names: Kathleen May Father: Grey Phillip Pe Mother: Matilda Carol Death Place: CRAN-------------CRANBOURNE Age: 67 Age Code: Year: 1984 Reg Number: 12440 Event: D ****************************************************************************************** Dorne SAUNDERS (AUSTRALIA) Dornes1@bigpond.com GENEALOGY LOOKUPS -Putting families together- ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ****************************** TICK "YES" TO QUESTION 60 ON CENSUS NIGHT, 8 AUGUST 2006 ***********************************************

At 04:22 PM 8/05/2006, Joan wrote: Joan >Thanks to you and other listers I have found Myer's death in Victoria and >also been sent Myer's headstone transcription which has led me further into >my search. If there is any Hebrew on it I can arrange a translation. The Hebrew part usually contains the name of the father of the deceased, and quite often other unexpected info. Can you get a photo of his tombstone? Gary _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

Hi Gary Thank you for the info re naturalization. I did another search and found David FROMBERG as well and also a Sarah with another couple of possibles. Thanks to you and other listers I have found Myer's death in Victoria and also been sent Myer's headstone transcription which has led me further into my search. Cheers......Joan > At 01:37 PM 7/05/2006, Joan wrote: > > A general note about naturalizaton and NAA records. > > > The Commonwealth Government took over naturalization from the > colonies in 1904. Victoria & South Australia passed their records on, > but the other states didn't because the applications were bound up > with other colonial secretary in-letters or court documents. > > When you find a hit on the National Archives site, click the Series > link to see what type of record it is. Other links usually tell about > the Agency which administered the business. > > Gary > > ====================== > > > >Thank you very much Bill, Gary & Jenny for such prompt replies and advice > >for which I am very grateful. > > > >These are the family I am searching for but have not found the death of > >Myer. I found his Naturalization application at the NAA also but didn't > >realise it was in Victoria so this has opened another door and I will search > >VIC Deaths, just in case he died there. > > > >Thank you once again. > >Joan > > _________________________________ > Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au > Sydney, Australia > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/05/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/05/06

At 01:37 PM 7/05/2006, Joan wrote: A general note about naturalizaton and NAA records. The Commonwealth Government took over naturalization from the colonies in 1904. Victoria & South Australia passed their records on, but the other states didn't because the applications were bound up with other colonial secretary in-letters or court documents. When you find a hit on the National Archives site, click the Series link to see what type of record it is. Other links usually tell about the Agency which administered the business. Gary ====================== >Thank you very much Bill, Gary & Jenny for such prompt replies and advice >for which I am very grateful. > >These are the family I am searching for but have not found the death of >Myer. I found his Naturalization application at the NAA also but didn't >realise it was in Victoria so this has opened another door and I will search >VIC Deaths, just in case he died there. > >Thank you once again. >Joan _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

Thank you very much Bill, Gary & Jenny for such prompt replies and advice for which I am very grateful. These are the family I am searching for but have not found the death of Myer. I found his Naturalization application at the NAA also but didn't realise it was in Victoria so this has opened another door and I will search VIC Deaths, just in case he died there. Thank you once again. Joan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/05/06

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At 06:20 PM 5/05/2006, Joan wrote: Joan Go to RecordSearch on the National Archives site at http://naa12.naa.gov.au/. Search for the name Fromberg. Myer Fromberg was naturalized in Victoria in 1897. David Fromberg applied in 1948 for permission for a few relatives in Poland to migrate to Australia. Gary ===================================== >Hello Listers > >I have just rejoined the list and am searching for a Polish/Jewish family >who arrived in 1887 as Assisted Immigrants. >Fanny Fromberg together with her 2 sons, Abraham & David and daughter >Rebecca arrived on the SS "Port Victor". Also a Charles Fromberg was on >the same ship but I'm not sure if he is another child of Fanny. They were >joining her husband Myer FROMBERG who was already in NSW. > > >I would be delighted to hear from anyone who may have knowledge of this >family and their descendants. > >Thanking you in advance for any help. >Joan _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

At 06:20 PM 5/05/2006, Joan wrote: Joan There are four Fromberg tombstones in the Jewish section of Rookwood cemetery - Abraham Phillip Fromberg - 23 July 1922 Fanny Fromberg - 30 June 1929 David Fromberg - 27 May 1977 Rosa Fromberg - 26 May 1972 According to their inscriptions David & Rosa were married. Names of children and grandchildren are also inscribed. The Jewish Cemetery Trust (9369-1878) or the Chevra Kadisha burial society (9363-2248) could have details about who arranged the burials. There might be a funeral announcement with family names and an address in the Hebrew Standard newspaper - microfilm copies are in the State Library of NSW. >Rebecca who was only aged 2 when she arrived married Archibald Simmons but I >have not found their marriage record. >Would their marriage and children's birth's be only recorded at the Jewish >Synagogue? After 1856 marriages etc were recorded in the government's registers by officiating ministers of all religions. There is a Bessie Fromberg married to Morris Rakman in the Great Synagogue in Sydney on 21 Oct 1925 You might like to join the mailing list for Australian Jewish Genealogy. It's the Forum item on the menu at www.ajgs.org.au Gary ===================================== >Hello Listers > >I have just rejoined the list and am searching for a Polish/Jewish family >who arrived in 1887 as Assisted Immigrants. >Fanny Fromberg together with her 2 sons, Abraham & David and daughter >Rebecca arrived on the SS "Port Victor". Also a Charles Fromberg was on >the same ship but I'm not sure if he is another child of Fanny. They were >joining her husband Myer FROMBERG who was already in NSW. > > >I would be delighted to hear from anyone who may have knowledge of this >family and their descendants. > >Thanking you in advance for any help. >Joan _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

HAT-History of Australian Theatre www.hat-archive.com HAT contains a 14400 entry database of names of people who were associated with the Australian Theatre between the years 1850-1960. If you had an ancestor in the theatre you may find them here. HAT also has has articles, pictures links and suggestions for further research. Greetings, I have updated the database to 14400. Many of the names I have added come from the late 19th century. Mr Ian Foster has kindly written a biography of his mother Elva Blair, complete with photographs to the site. It's certainly worth a read.Available from the articles page. I have added a page on The Merry Widow production in Australia in 1908. I was fortunate to find a set of photos of this production, the first production of the operetta in Australia. I have also added a page of photos. I am currently moving house, so will be out of contact for a week or so. I do endeavour to reply to all emails, so if you have a question, feel free to email or to post on the messageboard. Cheers to everyone and good luck with your research -Leann HAT- History of Australian Theatre www.hat-archive.com

I found these deaths on the NSW BDMs 1922 11692 1922 FROMBERG ABRAHAM P MYER FANNY MARRICKVILLE 1929 13468 1929 FROMBERG FANNY DAVID SARAH RANDWICK ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Hello Listers I have just rejoined the list and am searching for a Polish/Jewish family who arrived in 1887 as Assisted Immigrants. Fanny Fromberg together with her 2 sons, Abraham & David and daughter Rebecca arrived on the SS "Port Victor". Also a Charles Fromberg was on the same ship but I'm not sure if he is another child of Fanny. They were joining her husband Myer FROMBERG who was already in NSW. Rebecca who was only aged 2 when she arrived married Archibald Simmons but I have not found their marriage record. Would their marriage and children's birth's be only recorded at the Jewish Synagogue? I would be delighted to hear from anyone who may have knowledge of this family and their descendants. Thanking you in advance for any help. Joan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 4/05/06

Dear Angela, I have looked at the Australasian Genealogical Computer Index and found Pauline MAYNARD may have died 1 July 1972. Suggest you look at Ryerson Index for perhaps further information. There are 13 entries for Francis/Frank MAYNARD details which I can extract if you desire. None seem to specifically point to the one suggested by another lister. DITTMAN has two names which may be of interest, a marriage 15 June 1983 mentioning the SYDNEY suburb of AUBURN and the names Ian and Mrs Terri DITTMAN. Again details if you wish. No Gustav or Emma KNABE on AGCI. Sincerely,Bill > I´m looking for Emma and Pauline DITTMANN. They are the sisters of my > great-grandfather. They were born in Reichwald (County Wohlau in Under > Silesia). They emigrated from Bremen to America by boat "Rhein" in 1907 > and came always from Hamburg to America by boat "President Grant" in 1909. > They lived in Brooklyn by Mrs. Peters (I don´t know about this woman). >