>From Robert Maxwell to Michael Gallegos: >>>I don't know who Bob is in this case, but would sure like to have a copy >>>of his message. I believe your Austin is probably related to the Austins in >>>my family, as the dates are similar and we come from Whiteside County. >>>My grandmother was Esther Woods Austin, born 20 Apr. 1856, in >>>Whiteside County. Her father was Dennis Austin, Born 30 Dec. 1825 >>>and mother Harriet Gary, born 6 Apr 1796. >>>Please send me a copy of "Bob's" message. And, for all of you >>>answering, please put it on the mail list - not just direct. >>>Bob Maxwell Robert, AUSTIN, and WHITESIDE County researchers, Here immediately following was my original request to the AUSTIN and the ILWHITES Lists: >Have any of you out there heard or seen anything on a Hiram AUSTIN >(maybe Raymond Hiram or Hiram Raymond). I have no birth or death date; >however, he married a Laura E. MORSE (could be MOSS, as one of their >children's middle name was Moss - Lester Moss AUSTIN). Lester was >born in Lyndon, Whiteside County, Illinois, 14 Feb 1867. Any help would >be greatly appreciated. > Michael Gallegos > [email protected] >post script: My wife' grandmother was an AUSTIN, who married a >HOUSTON. What follows are the messages received from Bob Mosher, in response to my request. >>In Lyndon Twp in the 1860 census is: >>Austin, Hiram 60 M NY Farmer >>Eliza 40 F VT >>Stewart 30 M Farmlaborer >>Celestine 4 F IL >>Lyman R 2 M IL >>Morse, Samuel 20 M IL Farmlaborer >>I would guess that Stewart was a son of Hiram by a first wife. >>Bob Mosher >>In 1870 this family was: >>Austin, Hiram 40 M PA Farmer (Hmmmm??) >>Laura 33 F PA >>Cleleste 13 F IL >>Lyman 12 M IL >>Cora 5 F IL >>Lester 3 M IL >>Infant (Jun) 1 m F IL >>Stewart 67 M NY >>White, Henry 21 M IL Farmlaborer >>Bannely? Henriette 26 F IL Domestic >>Looking at this, it looks like the first census taker really mixed >>things up, confused Stewart with Hiram, etc. Not sure if Laura and >>Elizabeth are the same, perhaps Stewart is Hiram's father... >>Bob The following are my first two responses to Bob's first two messages: >Bob, > Thank you for such a quick response. The Hiram of the 1870 census, is >definitely my man, but the Hiram of 1860, though probably our Hirams father, >is too old to be the specific one we were looking for. This does give us a line >back, because the Samuel Morse listed as 20, from Illinois, is most likely the >younger brother of the son's, Hiram, wife Laura, E., or possibly a cousin. >Any other place or site you can recommend would be greatly appreciated. I >have a number of census and marriage disks from the old Automated >Archives, that I am going to recheck, now that I have a better idea what to >look for. Again, thanks. > Michael >Bob, > Here is what I think it should be as far as the two censuses: > 1860 1870 > Stewart Austin 60 67 > Eliza 40 N(ot) L(isted) (prob.SA's wife} > Hiram 30 40 > Laura E (Morse) NL 33 > Celestine (Celeste) 4 13 > Lyman 2 12 > Cora NL 5 > Lester (Moss) NL 3 > Infant NL 1 > Morse, Samuel 20 NL Is this Samuel G. Morse? >- and then Lydia E. is possibly another Morse sibling. >Is there anything in the 1880 census? I couldn't find anything on my disks, of >importance, I think I saw Lydia's name, I will have to recheck. I thought >there might be something in the 1850 census, but I didn't look under Stewart, >and now I gues I should have. And if I find anything else that will help you >help me, I will let you know. Again, thanks. > Michael Bob's answers: >>Micheal, >>I relooked at the families, noticed a Lydia E. Morse age 18, born NY as >>a Domesting in a Deming household a few hourse away, possibly another >>sister to Samuel Morse. >>Bob >>One other marriage that may be related. >>#1103 06/12/1864 Lydia E. MORSE to Josiah KEELER >>Bob >>A couple more tidbits from the Lyndon Cemetery: >>Austin, Cornelia w. of Isaac d. Oct 25, 1864 26 yrs >>Henry W. d. Apr 27, 1863 2 yrs >>Birdie, dau of I. & Lottie, d. Aug 29, 1873 1 yr. >>Anson B. d. Oct 12, 1879 5 yrs >>Floyd d. Mar 22, 1891 14 da. >>Henry W. d. Apr 27, 1863 2 yrs. (appears twice) >>Lodema A. 1852-1930 >>Laura E. w. Hiram d. June 15, 1886 50 yrs >>Myra A. w. D. L. Apr 18, 1875 50 yrs >>A. E. 1857-1939 >>The last names are alphabetical, but families are generally grouped >>within a name. So, I would make Henry, Birdie, Anson and Floyd all >>children of Isaac. Isaac's second wife was apparently Lottie. Gives >>you Laura's date of death and approx birth. No idea on Lodema, Myra, D. >>L. or A. E.! >>No MORSE in the Lyndon Cemetery. >>Bob My final info response: >Bob, > That is a pretty good bet from what I understand of the AUSTIN family >connections. Need another favor if you can. I found that Stewart AUSTIN >was in the Whiteside 1850 Census. He shows up in District 37, page 378. >Do you have access to the. All I have in the way of Automated Archives, is >just a set of index cd's. I though there was more to them than there really is. >Anyway, I truly thank you for all the help. > Michael >post script: Is there an older MORSE in the 1860 or 1850 census? It looks >like that after their marriage, Hiram and Laura could have become custodians >of the MORSE siblings. Hmm! I guess I am going to have to check out >some sort of disk material, that gives previous census data for Pennsylvania. >Michael, Bob's last info message back to me: >>Glad to help!! I have gotten similar help over the last couple months >>on three of my own lines, DAY, GREENO, and COBB so know how great >>it is to make contact with someone who can help! >>BTW I have some AUSTIN's, but much earlier in NE and England, circa >>1600. A Jonas AUSTEN born 1598, Kent, England whose daughter Mary >>AUSTIN, married Thomas LINCOLN in MASS. If you get back to >>Jonas, we are cousins! >>Bob >>Sorry, I don't have the 1850 census. Plan to get a copy, just haven't >>done it yet. >>Bob -----Original Message----- From: Robert Maxwell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 12:26 PM Subject: Re: HELP! (Hiram AUSTIN) >I don't know who Bob is in this case, but would sure like to have a copy of >his message. I believe your Austin is probably related to the Austins in my >family, as the dates are similar and we come from Whiteside County. My >grandmother was Esther Woods Austin, born 20 Apr. 1856, in Whiteside County. >Her father was Dennis Austin, Born 30 Dec. 1825 and mother Harriet Gary, >born 6 Apr 1796. > >Please send me a copy of "Bob's" message. And, for all of you answering, >please put it on the mail list - not just direct. > >Bob Maxwell > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 8:46 AM >Subject: Re: HELP! (Hiram AUSTIN) > > >>Bob, >> You can't begin to know how greatful I am. Thank you, thank you, >thank >>you. You have given me some dates and verified some locations we weren't >sure >>of. I am sending copies of this message to both the Austin and Whiteside >lists, >>so that others will know of you generosity. Not to busy you, but to PRAISE >your >>help. >> Michael >>post script: I have to sort through the messages, so that I can put it all >on >>family sheets. >> >> >> >> >>==== AUSTIN Mailing List ==== >>The 1999 National Austin Convention will be held in Washington, DC, on >>6-7-8 August... Plan ahead so you can join in the fun, and it's a great >>place to bring your spouse even if he/she is disinterested in genealogy! >> >> >> >> > > > >==== AUSTIN Mailing List ==== >AOAGS has published all Austins in the Federal Census of 1850 for 16 of >the 32 states. Three volunteers at the 1998 National Austin Convention >still leaves 13 states available. Interested in helping? Please contact >Austins of America Genealogical Society, e-mail: [email protected] > >