Sorry I put it in the subject line and forgot about puttin it the msg,, they were in Aexander Co IL, I found them in 1860, Hiarm born 1830 VA, Martha born 1832 and Robert born 1852 GA / IL depending onthe census, by 1863 both Hiram and Martha a dead as Robert P is under the guardian ship of his uncle William Parrot.. and by 1870 Robert P is living outside that house hold I have been able to trace Robert P through the census up until he died.... but after recently confirming that this is my Robert P,,, I am stuck at the wall again with the parents...