Does anyone have any conclusive evidence as to what line my great-great-great-grandfather Thomas Austin (b. c1755), father of Freeman Austin (b. March 1770- died April 1856 LaSalle Co., IL) descends from? There are quite a few trees posted on the internet that have conflicting information. Some give the wife of my Thomas Austin as Mary Dawley, and say that he is the son of Jeremiah. Others say that Mary Dawley was the wife of a different Thomas Austin and my Thomas' lineage is unknown. >From census records it appears that, besides son Freeman, my Thomas may have had sons named Thomas, Pardon, Jonathan, and Samuel, and perhaps David. They are found in the 1800 census of Delaware Co., NY - except for David they are in Middletown. In 1929 a great-grandson of my great-great-great-grandfather Freeman Austin (1770-1856) wrote: "The Austins of this genealogy are thought to be of the Mass. family, and this one of the four brothers was my great grandfather's great grandfather. His grandson was my father's grandfather, and was one of the six or seven tenant farmers who a few years before the American Revolutionary War took up their residence on a small island off the Mass. coast, not far from Martha's Vineyard." It is also said that Freeman Austin was a "coast sailor" prior to moving from near Martha's Vineyard to New York city and becoming a shoemaker. Somewhere on the AFAOA website a few years ago I found something that said that there was a Thomas Austin christened in MA in 1753, son of Thomas & Sarah (Parker) Austin. That Thomas was a sailor, having served as seaman and armorer on the brig "Hazard" during the Rev. War and that he was lost at sea. I also have a book that lists a Thomas Austin of Rhode Island who was captured by the British aboard the armed Schooner "Warren" in June 1777, and held prisoner at Mill Prison, Plymouth, England. According to the book Thomas Austin was "Pardoned for exchange Dec 11, 1779". Does anyone know who this Thomas Austin was? I'm hoping to make contact with an Austin 3rd cousin to see if he will participate in a DNA test. Perhaps then we can have a better understanding of where we fit in the Austin family tree. If anyone has information to help unravel the "mystery" of my Thomas Austin, please help! I have been attempting to solve it for about 15 years. Thank you. Marilyn

>From Helen Austin To SC Austin researchers, News: the SC ARCHIVES has improved its online SC records database. They now have many Austin wills and other records digitized and available for download. One example here posted is a will for a Elizabeth Austin, a widow of Fairfield Co, SC. son John Austin. She has land originally belonging to a Newman. Without looking it up, I remember that there is probably a kinship to a desc. of Bartholomew Austin and the George Lott. I remember that George Lott had one dau who married a Newman and he also had a (probably) grandson named Austin of Fairfield Dist, SC. I am only posting part of the document as an example. You will have to go to this website to see the second page. http://www.Archivesindex.sc.gov S108093: South Carolina Will Transcripts (Microcopy No 9) AUSTIN, ELIZABETH OF FAIRFIELD DISTRICT, FAIRFIELD COUNTY WILL TYPESCRIPT (2 FRAMES) (MSS WILL: FAIRFIELD DISTRICT ESTATE RECORD BOOK B, VOL. 4, PAGES 170-173; ESTATE PACKET: FILE 8, PKG. 2) Previous | Return to image index | Next Previous | Return to image index | Next Images and texts on these pages are intended for research or educational use. Please read our statement on use and reproduction for further information on how to obtain a photocopy or how to cite an item.

Helen, Wow! Thanks so much for the update on the SC Archives- wills, Plat Books, Confederate pensions .... It is such a boon to researchers when they are able to access original records. We have Elizabeth's will in our "VA William Austin" database, because of Carolyn Cooper's generous research. It was "contributed to The SCGenWeb Archives by: Carolyn Cooper CarolJCoop@aol.com 17 Jun 2001. [Elizabeth was the widow of Bartholomew Austin who had died in 1771.] WILL OF ELIZABETH AUSTIN Fairfield County, South Carolina August 4, 1802." Thanks again, Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen To: Alice AustinMartin ; Linda Austin/Hood ; Carolyn Austin research ; AFAOA Austin ; Austin@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 12:29 PM Subject: Austins of SC, new archives database From Helen Austin To SC Austin researchers, News: the SC ARCHIVES has improved its online SC records database. They now have many Austin wills and other records digitized and available for download. One example here posted is a will for a Elizabeth Austin, a widow of Fairfield Co, SC. son John Austin. She has land originally belonging to a Newman. Without looking it up, I remember that there is probably a kinship to a desc. of Bartholomew Austin and the George Lott. I remember that George Lott had one dau who married a Newman and he also had a (probably) grandson named Austin of Fairfield Dist, SC. I am only posting part of the document as an example. You will have to go to this website to see the second page. http://www.Archivesindex.sc.gov S108093: South Carolina Will Transcripts (Microcopy No 9) AUSTIN, ELIZABETH OF FAIRFIELD DISTRICT, FAIRFIELD COUNTY WILL TYPESCRIPT (2 FRAMES) (MSS WILL: FAIRFIELD DISTRICT ESTATE RECORD BOOK B, VOL. 4, PAGES 170-173; ESTATE PACKET: FILE 8, PKG. 2) Previous | Return to image index | Next Previous | Return to image index | Next Images and texts on these pages are intended for research or educational use. Please read our statement on use and reproduction for further information on how to obtain a photocopy or how to cite an item.

The following obituary appeared on pg B4 of The Record (Stockton, CA), Thursday Oct 23, 2008. It appears online at http://www.legacy.com/recordnet/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonId=119209515 BOBBIE D. AUSTIN Jan. 22, 1929 - Oct. 18, 2008 Bobbie D. Austin, 79, of Manteca, Ca passed away Friday, October 18, 2008, in a local hospital. Bob was born on January 22, 1929 in Oilton, Oklahoma. He was a Navy Veteran and was employed by San Joaquin Rapid Transit District for 38 years. Through his work at SJRTD he was instrumental in forming the current Dial-A-Ride service. He was the president of the Teamsters Local #276 for 18 years. He was also a member of the San Joaquin Valley Rangers for over 10 years. Bob was preceded in death by his parents Grover and Vera Austin, sister Ileen Wills, brothers Kenneth Austin and Darrell Austin. He was married to C. Jane Austin for 50 years. Children Sharon (Mike) Blasengym, Phillip (Kirk) Austin, Bill (Amanda) Austin, Michael (Maureen) Andreetta and Carla (Richard) Hiatt. He had 13 grandchildren and 31 great grandchildren whom he loved and adored First and foremost he loved spending time with his family and long time friends. He also loved the Dallas Cowboys, Western Movies and watching Professional Bull Riding on T.V. Graveside services will be held at 11:00 a.m. on Thursday, October 23, 2008 at Linden District Cemetery in Linden, CA on Cady Lane across from the Linden High School. In lieu of flowers, please make donations to the charity of your choice.

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as "Grandma VANBUSKIRK" and her granddaughter Mrs. Minda AUSTIN. The photograph was taken at the Wood Studio in Troy, Pennsylvania and is dated 1894. The grandmother is likely in her 70's or 80's at the time and her granddaughter would appear to be in her 20's at the time the photograph was taken. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following census information regarding the family: 1870 census of Granville Township, PA: Mary VANBUSKIRK, age 50, Keeping House, born NY James VANBUSKIRK, age 24, Farmer, born NY Erastus VANBUSKIRK, age 20, Farm Laborer, born PA Mary VANBUSKIRK, age 19, born PA 1880 census of Granville, PA: Mary VANBUSKIRK, age 61, Keeping House, born NY, parents born NY Minda VANBUSKIRK, grandau, age 8, at School, born PA, parents born NY/PA Living directly next door - Erastus VANBUSKIRK, age 29, a Farmer, born PA, parents born NY Josephine VANBUSKIRK, wife, age 25, Keeping House, born PA, parents born PA Jenny Ma VANBUSKIRK, dau, age 4, born PA Millie VANBUSKIRK, dau, age 1, born PA 1900 census of Granville Township, PA: Mary VANBUSKIRK, age 81, born May 1819, widow, 6 children/4 living, born NY, parents born NY Minda M. ALLEN, grandau, age 28, born Dec 1871, born PA, parents born PA Living directly next door - Erastus VANBUSKIRK, age 49, born Jun 1850, married 25 years, born PA, parents born NY, a Farmer Josephine VANBUSKIRK, wife, age 46, born Apr 1854, married 25 years, 6 children/5 living, born PA, parents born PA John B. VANBUSKIRK, son, age 18, born Nov 1881, born PA, a Farm Laborer Mary A. VANBUSKIRK, dau, age 14, born Mar 1886, born PA Helen C. VANBUSKIRK, dau, age 9, born May 1891, born PA I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

To Austin/Austill/Austell researchers >From H.Austin While working on the 1860 census project of Austins and related names for the AGS I came across a very unusual name. Knowing how wierd the script writing can be on some of the census, I kept trying to spell or re-spell the name. But it was clearly . . . . . . . H U R I E O S C O A U S T I L L a child of Jeremiah Austill of Clarke Co, AL Some of the 1860 census indexes include names from the Slave Schedule census which is on separate microfilms from the population schedule. There were also a Jeremiah Austill of Clarke Co, AL who owned 10 slaves and a Evan Austill of Mobile Co who had 10 slaves . Then there was a listing for a Jere Austil of Washington Co, where he owned 43 slaves. The family had several large plantations in adjoining counties. It turns out that this was all the same family. An interesting biography is to be found on the AOL HOMETOWN pages. That website will be closing soon. So if you are a Austill, it is not a misspelling of Austin. You will enjoy the story of Hurieosco and his name. ---------- here is a piece of the posting on the hometown website. Chancellor Hurieosco Austill, attorney-at-law of Mobile, Alabama, was born in that city, February 16, 1841. His father was Col. Jeremiah Austill, a native of South Carolina, and an officer in the war of 1812. He served in the Alabama legislature, and by occupation was a cotton factor (?) and a farmer. Col. Jeremiah Austill died in 1881. He was a son of Evan Austill, a native of North Carolina, and a son of Isaac Austill. There is a family tradition that the Austill family came from Saint Austell, England. The mother of Hurieosco was Margaret Eads, who was distantly related to Capt. Eads of Mississippi Jetty fame. Her ancestry is traced back to Wales. She died in 1890. Each of Hurieosco's parents was eighty-five years of age a the time of their death. He (Hurieosco) graduated from the University of Alabama, in 1861, and went directly from college into the army of the Confederate States. He was at once appointed Second Lieutenant of the First Alabama Battery of Artillery, and held a commission throughout the entire war in that command. During the Kentucky campaign, in December, 1862, he was appointed to a Captaincy in the Twenty-Second Alabama, in the way of a detached position. He was once slightly wounded, and was captured at Fort Morgan and held a prisoner for twelve months, or until the close of the war. Four of those months were spent at Fort Lafayette, and six months at Fort Deleware. He came home from the latter prison in a very bad state of health, and it required a year for him to recuperate. In 1800 he entered upon the study of the law in the Office of Dargan & Taylor, of Mobile, and was admitted to the bar in 1808, practicing at Mobile ever since. He is a member of the State Bar Association, and in counsel for the following projected railroads: Mobile, Jackson & Kansas City; Mobile & Northwestern, and the Mobile & Dauphin Island Railroad. Politically he is a democrat, and was elected to the lower house of the legislature in 1880, serving one term. He was elected to the state senate in 1882 for four years. In 1874, he was elected chancellor of the Southern Division of Alabama, and served one term of six years. He is a member of the Baptist church. He was married December 24, 1874, to Miss Aurora R. Ervin, of Wilcox County, Alabama, by whom he has six children, three sons and three daughters. --- copied from an article, source unknown

A Table of Y-DNA Test Results for 101 Austin and Austen males has been updated at the Austin Families Genealogical Society website: http://www.austins.org Just follow the "Projects" link to the "DNA Project" then click on the "View Latest Test Results" link. By comparing the Y-DNA of your own Austin-Austen line to that of lines in the Austin-Austen DNA Project - Profiles Table, you may greatly narrow your search for your Austin-Austen ancestry. Y-DNA samples can only be contributed by males, since Y-DNA is passed virtually unchanged from father to son, but not to daughters. Females with Austin lines need to locate a male Austin relative -- father, brother, uncle, cousin, etc. -- to provide the DNA sample for your line. ... Mike Austin

Austin Listers... I am pleased to announce that with the completion of Pennsylvania members of the Austin Families Genealogical Society (AFGS) recently completed our 1850 U.S. Census Project. Now Austin-Austen families from all the U.S. states and territories that existed in 1850 may be viewed directly at the AFGS website: www.austins.org. Just follow the "Projects" link to the "1850 U.S. Census Project" link, and then click on the state you wish to view. You may also search through all this census data at the AFGS Austin-Austen Research Center at: www.austins.org/ResearchCenter. Mike Austin, AFGS President

I've banged my head on this wall many times.. I think George fell from the sky. This is the info I have, any help or input will be greatly appreciated... George S. Warren, born about 1795 in PA, occupation, boatman. married to Hannah A. (either Poole or Austin), born about 1815, died 1882. Their children are Susanna E. Warren b. 1842 Mary E. Warren b. 1844 George R. Warren b. 1845 Daniel G. Warren b. 1848 Isaac Warren b. 1850 This family is listed in the 1850-1860 Census, Mt. Holly, Burlington County. NJ page 418, dwelling number 376, family number 397. Census; 05, August 1850. Mt Holly, Burlington Co. NJ **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

>From Helen Austin of Decatur, AL To Austin List Although this decedent was not part of our descendants of John C. Austin 1831-1907, I thought it would be good to send this record on to the "archives" for Austins. I checked the 1930 Census index on Ancestry.com for a T. M. Austin and did not find one. T. M. was probably a child living with his parents at that time. The Decatur Daily, Sunday, Sep 28, 2008. page B7; www.decaturdaily.com/ Obituaries: John Michael Austin Sr. of Decatur (Alabama) Funeral for John Michael Austin, Sr., 61 of Decatur will be Monday, Sept. 29, 2008 at 11 a.m. at Shelton Funeral Home Chapel with the Rev. Barry Sempsrott officiating. Burial will be in East Lawrence Memorial Gardens. Visitation will be tonight from 6 to 8 at the funeral home. Mr. Austin, who died Friday, Sept. 26, 2008, at Decatur General Hospital, was born Jan. 4, 1947, in Mobile (AL) to T.M. and Mattie Austin. He was a Vietnam War veteran and a member of Sixteenth Avenue Baptist Church. He is survived by two sons, John M. Austin, Jr., and Jeff Austin, both of Decatur, and one grandson, Logan Austin.

I recently won a bid on Ebay for a postcard that says "Greetings From Dardanelle, Arkansas." The card does not say who it is from........but it is addressed to Dr. F. Austin, Plainview, Arkansas. The year is 1908. Can anyone tell me about this person and which line of Austins he's connected with? Thanks, Judy **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

I am working on some of the early Austin Families in Maryland and I have come to a stumbling block and would appreciate some help. Samuel Austin married Mary Green in Queen Anne’s Count, Maryland on 2 January 1743. No children have been identified from this union. Samuel inherited land and in 1755 he sold all his land and simply disappeared. A thorough search of land records, tax lists, etc have failed to come up with any information on what happened to Samuel and Mary Austin. Ancestry.com has perhaps more than 20-30 family trees that document the above marriage and Samuels’s vitals and ancestors with great accuracy. Many of these family trees state that Samuel Austin died in Orange County, NC in 1771. So far this cannot be officially confirmed from the records. I have, without success, queried several of the contributors to these family trees trying to obtain more documentation especially on the 1771 death of Samuel. I will appreciate communicating with anyone working on this family. Hal Steiner halsteiner@cox.net

To our Austin Cousins, >From Helen and Vernon, We need some help in order to help find a match for the Austin DNA Project. We are hoping that some other male descendants will help out. We are talking about descendants of John Calhoun Austin b 1831 East TN, lived in Morgan Co, AL from 1855-1878, in Winston Co, AL in 1880-1884, in Bankhead National Forest, Lawrence Co, AL until a short time before his death in 1907. His wives were 1) Mrs. Elizabeth Edwards Swan 2) Miss Mary Easter Edwards (both dau of Isaac Edwards and grand daughters of George Lott of Fairfield Co, SC; 3) Mrs. Margaret Juliana Henderson Simmons. John was rumored to have a Cherokee mother? This is the problem. Vernon paid for the DNA test for 67 markers, but so far, not one of the other Austin of the ones tested have matched. If one of you other Austins of our line could mail in a test, it would be appreciated. We would help with the expense. We really want to find your ancestors. We also want to know if YOUR dna is the same as ours or if it has some mutations. Especially since John was over 60 years old when he fathered his last two sons. go to this website for instructions: FamilyTreeDNA.com or to AFAOA.com for DNA project you can see the results of our test there. ----------------------- We have sent this message to three of the ROWAN family members who are a perfect match for our 37 markers in the DNA test! You will see our dillema. If it is true that there was a great grandmother who was a Cherokee, then her lover was the Austin DNA for the Y markers. The woman might have had the name of AUSTIN and gave it to her child. However, the DNA lab people say it would be as many as 20 generations ago before we would have a match for the Rowan, so we are talking about back in Great Britain, perhaps in Ireland or Scotland. The Haplotype and group are (M269) R1b1b2. Look at the website for explanations. Lets have a reunion, or get together to discuss this, if you wish. ==================================================== >From Helen and Vernon Austin To W. E. Rowan Re: your DNA 37 marker match of our John C. Austin b 1831 TN d 1907 Lawrence Co, AL I am writing because I saw that Vernon’s DNA is a perfect 37 marker match to 3 Rowans but NOT to any Austins. We have been a member of the Austin Family Genealogical Assoc. and the DNA project for quite a few years and have worked very hard trying to find some parents for our third generation ancestor, John Calhoun Austin. We know that he was born in East TN in 1831, very early for that state. We know from the census that his parents were said to be both born in South Carolina. We know from our haplotype that we are most likely, of Scot-Irish or Scot descent. We know that our DNA does not make an exact match for any of the AUSTIN families but it does have an exact 37 marker match for YOU and Jason Lee Rowand, and Mr. Thomas Ray Rowan IV. WE know that the deviation has to before John, unless he was adopted or an illegitimate son or (possible) the son of a Cherokee Woman (perhaps named Austin) who consorted in VA, TN or SC with a Rowan. Rumors have circulated about the last possibility. According to the FamilyTreeDNA matching system, we have a 97% likely match of a ancestor to a ROWAN 20 generations ago. So, what were your Rowans doing 30 generations ago. Do you have any idea where they lived before VA, or can you name a county where they first lived in America.?? Were they part of a sept or clan that included Austins? It is the only thing I can think of that would give us a clue to follow. A place name in Great Britain that is in your tradition would be helpful? Hoping you can give us a clue, Helen and Vernon Email to AustinART@bellsouth.net

The following biographical sketch of Edward G. Austin was post by Sandi Gorin to the KYBiographies List. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandi Gorin To: KYBIOGRAPHIES@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:03 AM Subject: [KYBIOS] BIO #11152 - EDWARD G. AUSTIN - OHIO CO Kentucky Genealogy and Biography Volume III, Battle-Perrin-Kniffin, 2nd ed., 1885. Ohio Co. EDWARD G. AUSTIN, Ohio County. The ancestors of Mr. Austin were among those who came at an early day from Virginia to this State and have always been prominent citizens. His father was the celebrated Rev. Bishop James F. Austin, who was born in Ohio County in 1820, and baptized by the Rev. Alfred Taylor, one of Kentucky's earliest ministers. Bishop Austin was educated in the common schools, and later acquired a vast fund of information by close study and application, and at the age of twenty-two entered the ministry of the Baptist Church, and although his labors were mostly in Ohio, Muhlenburgh, Warren and Daviess and Butler Counties, he established a reputation throughout the entire State, and was for many years superintendent of the Association of Ministers. As a pulpit orator, financial manager and bishop his rank was second to none. He died of Bright's disease, October 4, 1883. Mr. Austin's mother was a Miss Corrina Thomas, also a native of Ohio County, born in 1825. She obtained her education in the common schools, and was married in 1843. They had thirteen children, five of whom never reached the years of accountability; James P. married a Miss Phelps and has two children: Sally, wife of W. L. Rowe, has three children; Josephine, wife of F. J. Davenport, of Ellis County, Tex., has seven children; William T.; Luvena (deceased), Victoria, wife of Thomas Hendricks; our subject, and John W. The mother still lives at the old homestead, six miles southwest of Cromwell, where they have 340 acres of fine land. KYBIOGRAPHIES Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybiographies KYRESEARCH Archives:http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kyresearch

looking for the parents of one Hiram J Austin born abt 1830 in VA (per 1860 Alexander Co IL census) he is not found in 1850, and died by May 1863. no death record, marriage record or bural record can be found... The only other Austins in the county were Elizabeth -his mother in law and a Serena Austin possibly the wife of Joseph Austin not sure if there is a connection. Hiram's wife was Martha nee Austin born in TN to Charles and Elizabeth Austin any help in tracking Hiram (parents, burial or marriage )would be appreciated Thanks Michele

To Liz and other Austin Researchers of SC >From Helen Austin, I really enjoyed the article written by Liz Carlin in the Austin AFAOA Newletter, which I received today. It was about one of the brave girls of the Gilder Plantation Austins. When I first started looking for my husbands great grandfather Austin born before 1800 in SC, possibly the Upcountry, I read the two books about the Gilder families at the Georgia State Library. The first was by the Charles Austin of GA, you mentioned. Next we went on a research trip to the Greenville Library and down to the Laurens Library and court house. On the way we visited the Gilder Plantation and read the historical marker erected by the family. According to the book by Jeannette Austin, there may have been an earlier plantation by the same name at another location. What I do know is that the Gilder plantation with the marker is near a town, named Mauldin, just outside the city limits of Greenville, SC. It is not so near to Spartanburg. When I read your location of Spartanburg, I thought you would want to clarify that. I could send you a scan of a map with the exact location, if you wish. So far, we have not found a definte match for our Austins among the Greenville or Laurens Co, Austins. Today we upgraded Vernons DNA test results from the 37 marker to the 67 marker. I wish some of the other Austins in the project would do the same. Copy of a note I received: You may have already received an email from FTDNA about the discounts currently available to upgrade to additional markers. This discount is available from today, Friday June 20 to June 30. Discounts like this don't come around often. If you are at 12 or 25 markers (my informant, not our Austin Project person) strongly advise upgrading to at least 37 markers as that number is needed to adequately compare DNA kits to "within a genealogical time frame." If you are considering going to 67 markers, which brings the matches within the past 300 years, this is certainly the time to upgrade. 67 markers helps us to outline the more recent family lines. Helen: Note that this message was not from our Austin project , but from a similar project of another surname. I did it anyway, because it was a bargain, and I would really like a match with our John Calhoun Austin b 1831 TN, whose father was b before 1800 in SC.

I have stood in the front yard of Gilder - which is near Simpsonville, SC - there is a family cemetery at Mt Bethel Methodist Church there in Simpsonville - as is the grave of Nathaniel Austin - the first ancestor to come over from England in my family tree. I am a direct descendant of Nathaniel - I'm 8th generation - and have the "Austin and Allied Families" book published in the early '70s by Josephine Austin Knight and James Waddy Austin. If I can be on any help, just let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:57 PM To: AUSTIN-L@rootsweb.com; lizcarlin@socal.rr.com; caroljcoop@everestkc.net; jcarlin@socal.rr.com Subject: [AUSTIN] Gilder Estate of the Greenville Austins. To Liz and other Austin Researchers of SC >From Helen Austin, I really enjoyed the article written by Liz Carlin in the Austin AFAOA Newletter, which I received today. It was about one of the brave girls of the Gilder Plantation Austins. When I first started looking for my husbands great grandfather Austin born before 1800 in SC, possibly the Upcountry, I read the two books about the Gilder families at the Georgia State Library. The first was by the Charles Austin of GA, you mentioned. Next we went on a research trip to the Greenville Library and down to the Laurens Library and court house. On the way we visited the Gilder Plantation and read the historical marker erected by the family. According to the book by Jeannette Austin, there may have been an earlier plantation by the same name at another location. What I do know is that the Gilder plantation with the marker is near a town, named Mauldin, just outside the city limits of Greenville, SC. It is not so near to Spartanburg. When I read your location of Spartanburg, I thought you would want to clarify that. I could send you a scan of a map with the exact location, if you wish. So far, we have not found a definte match for our Austins among the Greenville or Laurens Co, Austins. Today we upgraded Vernons DNA test results from the 37 marker to the 67 marker. I wish some of the other Austins in the project would do the same Copy of a note I received: You may have already received an email from FTDNA about the discounts currently available to upgrade to additional markers. This discount is available from today, Friday June 20 to June 30. Discounts like this don't come around often. If you are at 12 or 25 markers (my informant, not our Austin Project person) strongly advise upgrading to at least 37 markers as that number is needed to adequately compare DNA kits to "within a genealogical time frame." If you are considering going to 67 markers, which brings the matches within the past 300 years, this is certainly the time to upgrade. 67 markers helps us to outline the more recent family lines. Helen: Note that this message was not from our Austin project , but from a similar project of another surname. I did it anyway, because it was a bargain, and I would really like a match with our John Calhoun Austin b 1831 TN, whose father was b before 1800 in SC. The Austin-Austen List is moderated by the Austin Families Genealogical Society, we invite you to join us in researching Austin lines: www.austinsorg/Join ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUSTIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Austin researchers: >From Helen, I found a new book at the library today. VIRGINIA IMMIGRANTS AND ADVENTURERS, 1607-1635, published in 2007. A compilation of biographical information from many sources. All sources listed. I saw that there were a few Austins and Osteens in it. So. I am sending on the information to you. Page 98: Tabitha Austin (Austyn): "On Jan 22, 1620, the court of Bridewell decided that Tabitha Austin would be sent to Virginia. Source (CBE 17). Tobias Austin (Austyn): On Jan 22, 1619, it was decided that Tobias Austin, a boy, would be detained so that he could be sent to Virginia. Source HUME 21) William Austin (Austine, Aston, Austen): In 1619, the Ferrars, who were important Virginia Company investors, paid for the transportation of William Austin to Virginia (FER 296). page 526. James Ostin (Osten): On Sept 5, 1626, the justices of the General Court Awarded one of the late James Carter's indentured servants, James Ostin, a year of his time, which Carter had bequeathed him. Carter, who had been master of the TRUELOVE, owned some land in Shirley Hundred and in the lowlands (WT 1016-1017) (Note: I think the records were in the Williamsburg Library, at the college.H.Austin) William Ostin (OSTEN) William Ostin, a 22 year old carpenter from Gloucestershire, England, came to Virgina in 1619 on the Bona Nova, a ship that brought a hundred Virginia Company servants and tenants to the colony. HELEN: I am sorry that I did not copy the pages with the acronym keys for the sources. You will have to find the book to get them. I did notice that many of her sources were from the VA STATE LIBRARY online. Some of the colonial documents can be accessed on their website.

Seeking info on my G-G-Grandmother Rosannah "Rose" Austin (b. ca. 1818). She married Squire Waters (b. 1803 in South Carolina). The 1880 census for Cannon County, TN shows her as being 66 years old, born in VA and her father born in England, and her mother born in VA. Rose and Squire's son Aaron, B. 1845 in Cannon County is my ancestor. Other children of Squire and Rose were Henderson, John, Craven, Rebecca, Edward "Ned", Lucy and Gardner. I would really appreciate any ancestral leads on this illusive lady, and other descendents. Thanks - Bonnie White

The October 2006 version of the AFAOA "Nathaniel Austin Sr. of Greenville County, South Carolina" database, on pg. 29, has a brief listing for the above man. I have some questions about it, and I'm hoping to open a discussion and/or get some answers. 1. It says that his parents were John J. Austin & Lucretia Harris and that his middle name was Benjamin. What is the reasoning behind these assertions? 2. It says his first wife was Nancy ___ , that she died about 1839, and that they had no known children. What is the source for these assertions? 3. It says his second wife was Margaret ___ and they had 2 children: Charles & Thomas. If Nancy did indeed die about 1839, then they must have had 3 children: A. George W. Austin, Esq. b. ca 1835 m. Sarah E. Wells. He was a lawyer in Carrollton, Carroll Co. GA. His son William's obituary said he was a judge, but I've found no evidence of this yet. In 1894 his stationery letterhead said "Clerk and County Attorney". Evidently he died by 1900. B. James M. Austin b. ca 1836 d. in Coweta Co. GA by 1867. "John B. Austin having in proper form applied to me for permanent letters of administration on the estate of James M. Austin, deceased, late of Coweta County. B.H. Mitchell, Ordinary." Source: November 9, 1867 issue of "Newnan Herald" (Newnan, Coweta Co. GA). Not sure if he C. Nancy Elizabeth Austin b. 1839 m 1. Robert L. Boyd m. 2. George Harrison Hopkins (his second wife). She was living with son Dr. Elam Austin Hopkins in Wolfe City, Hunt Co. TX in 1910. His second wife was Mary M. ____. At first I thought perhaps her name was Mary Margaret ___ and that she was the same woman who was his wife in 1870. But Mary was about the same age as John and b. in SC and while her listed birthplace differs on the various censuses, Margaret was listed consistently as over 10 yrs. younger than John. So, I think that Margaret was his third wife and that Charles and Thomas really were her sons and she may have been a widow with a son named Benjamin b. ca 1857 in GA who was living with them in 1870 and mistakenly listed as an Austin (John's daughter Nancy Elizabeth Boyd her Boyd daughters were also living there and lmistakenly listed as Austins). The 1840 census for 408th District, Gwinnett Co. GA shows the following: Pg. 84 Line 10 John B. Austin 20002-10001. The 1850 census for 11th Division, Carroll Co. GA shows the following: Pg. 36A dwelling 472 family 472 - J. B. Austin 36 SC Blacksmith $800 Mary 34 SC Geo 15 GA Jas 14 GA Elizabeth 10 GA Ann 8 GA Isabel 6 GA unnamed (female) [Frances] 6 mos. GA The 1860 census for Heard Co. GA (St. Cloud P. O.) shows the following: Pg. 662 dwelling 7 family 7 - John B. Austin 46 SC Blacksmith $300 Mary M. 45 SC James M. 22 GA Apprentice Blacksmith Ann 18 GA Ellen 13 GA Isabella 11 GA Frances 10 GA Zeida 8 GA The 1870 census for Gwinnett Co. GA (Lawrenceville P. O.) shows the following: Pg. 208 (104B) dwelling 1512 family 1520. His household consisted of: John B. Austin 56 GA Farm Laborer $0 $250 Margaret 41 GA Elizabeth [Boyd] 31 GA [dau] Frances 20 GA Ida 18 GA Mary [Boyd] 12 GA [gr-dau] Georgia [Boyd] 10 GA [gr-dau] Sallie [Boyd] 8 GA [gr-dau] Charlie 3 GA Edgar 8 mos. GA b. Oct Benjamin 13 [what surname?] GA [step-son?] The 1880 census for 842nd District, Milton (now Fulton) Co. GA shows the following: Pg. 11 (468C) dwelling 102 family 102 - John B. Austin 64 Farmer SC SC SC Margaret 50 wife NC VA VA Charles N. 12 son Assists on farm GA SC NC Thomas N. 10 son Assists on farm GA SC NC The 1900 census for Justice Precinct 4, Fannin Co. TX shows the following: Pg. 12A dwelling 202 family 202 - Charles N. Austin 33 b. Jan 1867; marr 9 yrs. Farmer GA NC SC Dora 26 wife b. Feb 1874; 3 ch, 1 liv GA GA GA Tom 5 son b. Jan 1895 GA GA GA Margarette 76 mother b. Jan 1894, widow; 2 ch, 2 liv NC GA GA I don't know when or where Margaret died, but son Charles was back in GA by 1910, listed on the census that year in Rockbridge District, Gwinnett Co. and she wasn't with him. Charles moved to Etowah Co. AL by 1920 and died there in October 1933. Incidentally, his middle initial on the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census records was A not N. So, I'm not sure what his actual name was. Additional tidbits about John B. Austin: John B. Austen was a member of a militia company formed by Charles Lattimer in 1836. Source: The History of DeKalb County, Georgia 1822-1900 by Vivian Price, pg. 211 1853 tax list for Carroll Co. GA shows: J. B. Austin Militia District 642 (Villa Rica), Land District 2 I welcome any and all input. Vickie Elam White