Ada, As I got a bit further down my list and was looking for the numbers I needed to order more records I did come across an inquest with two references, the only difference is the Unit ID numbers. I have ordered both and will let you know the outcome. It does seem very strange to me because the person in question was 19 months of age and died after falling down a mine shaft. When I tried to order the other "probate" record it told me to refer to the other record so I hope they have both of them together. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:44 Subject: Re: [A.G.R. ] Addition to Inquest record at PROV > At 20:42 08-10-03 +1000, Jenny Gray wrote: > >Sorry list, the subject line should read as "probate" record, not inquest! > > Well, Jenny, that changes the situation. You can have up to 3/4 separate > files in probate, no problem. Order them and disregard my answer when I > thought you were looking at inquests! > > > regards, > Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia > formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

At 20:42 08-10-03 +1000, Jenny Gray wrote: >Sorry list, the subject line should read as "probate" record, not inquest! Well, Jenny, that changes the situation. You can have up to 3/4 separate files in probate, no problem. Order them and disregard my answer when I thought you were looking at inquests! regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Hello Jenny, Since there is no charge, if it was me, I'd order both, solve the problem, then put up my findings to the list. It is unusual to have two inquests on the same person, but it is possible, with an exhumation and re-discovery of some evidence (e.g. poison) not tested in the original inquest. However, it is most unusual. The first surmise is that there are two people involved. Now, I hope you will look into this and put me out of my misery... I love the unusual and apparent contradictions, and particularly if I can learn something that may be useful for others doing research. I love to drop little gems and examples into my guest speaker talks, and they help other people who might never have thought that "the different" was possible. Thanks in anticipation, Regards Ada At 20:13 08-10-03 +1000, Jenny Gray wrote: >Hi List, > >Just ordering some records online to view at PROV and have come across two >records with the same Title/Description number, the one I want is >VPRS28/POO20/323, but am wondering if I should also order the other (listed >below). Been a long time since I have been to PROV and can't remember how >their indexing works, I'm wondering if both records relate to the same >person? > >ITEM VPRS28/P0020/323 1023/714 No Date No Date >ITEM VPRS28/P0020/98 1023/714 No Date No Date > >Jenny > > > >==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== >Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? >Please do? And do sign our visitors book? >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ >************************************************************************ >Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >************************************************************************ >Searchable Archives at >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-GEN-RESEARCH-L > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Sorry list, the subject line should read as "probate" record, not inquest!

Hi List, Just ordering some records online to view at PROV and have come across two records with the same Title/Description number, the one I want is VPRS28/POO20/323, but am wondering if I should also order the other (listed below). Been a long time since I have been to PROV and can't remember how their indexing works, I'm wondering if both records relate to the same person? ITEM VPRS28/P0020/323 1023/714 No Date No Date ITEM VPRS28/P0020/98 1023/714 No Date No Date Jenny

Hello One & All I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that the Registration Form and Programme Information Booklet for the 5th Victorian State Family History Conference "Settlers in the sun", to be held in Mildura from April 16th - 18th 2004, are now available and can be printed from our website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmdgs/2004.html The Early Bird rates close on December 31st 2003. This conference is hosted by the Mildura & District Genealogical Society Inc. under the auspices of VAFHO. It will be an exciting, informative, low-cost conference where you will have the opportunity to attend workshops and a variety of sessions conducted by 25 guest speakers covering a broad range of topics encompassing everything from how to trace your ancestry, using internet resources, WWI & WWII records, colonial links, immigration records, celebrations of the 150th anniversary of Cobb & Co coaches, and more. The conference keynote speaker is Jan Gow, one of New Zealand's most experienced professional genealogists. We have a selection of pre-conference workshops that will be conducted on Friday 16th April. For further information please contact: 2004 Conference Organizing Committee P.O. Box 3467 Mildura 3502, VIC E-mail: SettlersintheSun@telstra.com Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmdgs/2004.html Roz Voullaire roz@voullaire.com.au Secretary 2004 Conference Organizing Committee

Dear List, If any of you have the Tasmanian DC's please could SKS please have a look to see when Ann or Annie Maria Bickley married John McGregor at Strachan, Tasmania about 1902 and any births of McGregor children. Much appreciated Best wishes Amanda - Sydney, rainy and windy.

Hi Members well I've just spoken to my friend in Sydney asking him if he'd go and take photo's of the church and the cemetery, one problem he doesn't know where it is so if it's not to much trouble could someone information me of the location of St Peters church and cemetery please? He's offered to take photo's of the church and the cemetery and if not to many headstones he's offered to do them as well all to go onto our web page. (Says me with a big smile) Regards, Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda" <amandacurran@bigpond.com> To: <AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: [A.G.R. ] SMITH - ST Peters Church, cemetery, Sydney, NSW, Australia 1. Mareetta Darling Smith 23/5/1859 2. Ann Smith 3/12/1873 3. Ann Smith 3/1/1885 4. Arthur Thomas Smith 19/4/1891 5. Benjamin Smith 2/8/1849 6. Catherine Smith - - - - 7. Gertrude Smith 22/4/1893 8. Charles Smith 18/1/1845 9. Charles Sydney Smith - - - - 10. Beaumont Smith 25/10/1856 11. Clara Amelia Smith 5/9/1881 12. Edward Thomas Smith 10/11/1886 13. Eliza Jane Smith 17/12/1848 14. Elizabeth Smith 30/11/1844 15. Emma Smith 14/2/1886 16. Emma May Smith 19/3/1844 17. Emma Sophia Smith 31/3/1877 18. Ethel Henrietta Smith 11/1/1889 19. Fanny Smith 17/11/1891 20. Florence Smith 4/8/1882 21. Florence Lillian Smith 27/4/1895 22. Frances Jane Smith 14/1/1875 23. George Smith 2/11/1889 24. George Henry Smith 3/8/1892 out of order in registry date is probably 3/9/ 25. George William Smith 2/1/1876 26. Harriet Smith 24/6/1888 27. Henry James Smith 10/3/1885 28. Honor Smith 27/7/1840 29. James Smith 6/12/1878 30. James Smith 28/12/1883 31. Jane Smith 26/7/1853 32. John Smith 17/11/1849 33. John Smith 2/5/1859 34. John James Smith 24/12/1873 35. Mary Ann Smith 5/1/1845 36. Mary Ann Smith 30/6/1869 37. Mary Ann Smith 3/10/1880 38. Mary Anne Smith 17/1/1863 39. Mary Jane Smith 5/4/1881 40. Percy Smith - - - - 41. William Bland Smith 12/6/1866 42. Peter William Smith 22/12/1875 43. Richard Horner Smith 2/11/1863 44. Robert Smith 5/6/1850 45. Robert Burdett Smith 2/7/1895 46. Samuel Smith 12/10/1891 47. Silvia Maud Smith 23/12/1892 48. Susanna Cornish Smith 19/1/1858 49. Therisa Smith 30/4/1879 50. Thomas Smith 13/2/1845 51. Thomas Smith 13/3/1866 52. Thomas Smith 15/8/1884 53. Thomas William Smith 11/2/1883 54. Whitbread Samuel Smith 18/2/1878 55. William Smith 28/2/1855 56. William Arkell Smith 19/8/1869 57. William Smith - - - - 58. Arthur James Smith 23/9/1894 59. William Kempton Smith 13/6/1888 Cheers Amanda Sydney, NSW ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? Please do? And do sign our visitors book? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ==================================================== Searchable Archives at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-GEN-RESEARCH-L ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.521 / Virus Database: 319 - Release Date: 23/09/03

John Nunn married Eliza ? One known child: Thomas Nunn died 1889 Hurstville married Sarah ? Known children of Thomas and Sarah: Thomas Alfred Nunn born 1873 Sydney. Alfred William Nunn born 1876 Sydney married in 1901 Sydney Margaret E WYE. 2 known child: Minnie or Millie C Nunn born 1905 Sydney. Roy William Nunn born 1902 Redfern married Stella CRIMMINS. One known child of Roy and Stella: William Roy Nunn born 21/10/1930 married Mary Pamela WALTON: Divorced. 2 children: Julie Nunn and Philip Nunn Milly E Nunn born 1879 Sydney Florence M Nunn born 1882 Sydney William H Nunn born 1884 Sydney. Best wishes to you all Amanda

RootsWeb: AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH-L [A.G.R. ] Re: [BRITNAMES] A Thought For You > "CLEANING MOTHER'S HOUSE" by Michael John Neill > ===================================================================== > > It has been nearly a year since fictional genealogist Barbara passed away. > Her daughter, Charlene reflects upon that year in a letter to her friend > Karen. Charlene truly has been busy. Barbara is probably rolling over in > her grave. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Karen, > > As usual, my cards are late. It has been a busy year. > > We spent much of the year settling up Mother's estate. The house sold > well, but cleaning it took longer than we expected. > > You are probably the only person who did not know Mother was a genealogy > buff. She told practically every human she encountered. I'm convinced > that > genealogy 'nut' was the most accurate phrase. The stuff was all over the > house. The inheritance would have been enough to pay for my new Mercedes > had she not insisted on spending money on that blasted hobby. I don't > know > why she couldn't be more like Tom's mother, Nadine spends her day doing > needlepoint and watching reruns of 50s television shows. Tom just does not > realize how lucky he is, but men never do. My mother had to run off to > cemeteries and courthouses! She even went to a conference in Davenport, > Iowa, last year! Can you imagine? Davenport, Iowa! After she got back, > she was so excited about all that she had learned and all the fun she had. > She was planning on going to another one in California this year. Well, > the grim reaper took care of that. > > Because of my promotion to head of knick knack sales at > Garbageforless.com, I had not been home for several years. I was appalled > to learn that Mother had converted my old bedroom into her family history > "headquarters." My shelves of Teen Beat and other magazines documenting > my adolescence had been replaced with old family photographs, copies of > old > documents, and something called family group sheets. She even got rid of > the pants I wore to my first junior high dance. I cried at the thought. > > I could not bear to go in the room and be reminded that my childhood had > been stripped from me and replaced with an obsession with the past. I > told > the children that if they would clean the room and prepare the items for > the garage (should I say "garbage"?) sale they could have the proceeds. I > learned what true entrepreneurs they are. > > Kenny stripped Mother's hard drive in under ten minutes. I kept hearing > him say "Gedcom is GedGone....GedCom is GedGone...." I have no idea what > it meant, but the computer fetched a good price. Before he unplugged the > computer, he erased all Mom's floppy disks and downloaded public domain > games. He sold these at a nominal price. > > Susan took the old photographs to a flea market and was able to sell many > of them. Some special labels had to be taken off and we had to take them > out of protective envelopes. Mother had written the names on the back of > many of them. At least none of those pictures of depressing old dead > people had our last name written on them. I don't want to be associated > with such sour people. > > Mother had some type of old plat book -- whatever that is. Kenny tore out > the pages individually and sold them separately on eBay. It was so > clever. > His dad said he got much more than if he had left the book in one piece. > > Susan didn't tear the bibles apart though. I thought that showed a > tremendously good sense. She's learning that not everything can be > marketed in the same way. The 1790 bible brought her a good penny, but > she > couldn't get the one from 1900 to bring more than fifty cents. She > donated > it to a local church, and here is where I am so proud of her. We can > write > it off as a charitable deduction. Someone had written what they had paid > for the bible on the back cover. Susan converted that to 2001 dollars and > will use that for our tax deduction amount. I've already enrolled Susan > in > tax lawyer summer camp this coming August. > > There was some old large certificate written on heavy paper. The silly > thing wasn't even in English, so why would Mother keep it? Kenny used the > other side to keep track of the things he had sold. Waste not, want not. > When we were finished we put the paper in the recycling bin. > > The kids put an old wedding dress from the 1870s in the washer to get the > stains out. It was terribly filthy. The worthless thing didn't even > survive the extra long cycle and the half-gallon of bleach. It's doubtful > we can even use it for cleaning rags. > > The dress was in some kind of old trunk. I'm not certain what it was for, > but it had a name stenciled on the front in huge letters along with the > name of a town. Susan give it a good coating of red paint and sold it as > a > toy box. > > The filing cabinets were emptied of their contents, as were the three > shelves of binders. Kenny got the bright idea to shred the paper and sell > it in bags as New Year's confetti. The file folders were too heavy to > shred. > > The baby did not react well to any of this. She cried and fussed almost > the entire time. Kenny thought she wanted tea, which made no sense to me > at all. As she cried, it sounded like she was saying "family tee." She > can't even talk yet and I think Kenny was hearing things. The baby does > not look exactly like my mother though, it's the oddest thing. The > fussing > didn't stop until she spit up an entire bottle of strained prunes on my > junior high jeans, which we did find in the basement. They were > ruined -- > it was the one real loss. Now my past has really been taken from me -- > magazines and all. > > Charlene > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Whether you have a child like Charlene or not, have you thought about what > might happen to your genealogy collection upon your demise?

1. Mareetta Darling Smith 23/5/1859 2. Ann Smith 3/12/1873 3. Ann Smith 3/1/1885 4. Arthur Thomas Smith 19/4/1891 5. Benjamin Smith 2/8/1849 6. Catherine Smith - - - - 7. Gertrude Smith 22/4/1893 8. Charles Smith 18/1/1845 9. Charles Sydney Smith - - - - 10. Beaumont Smith 25/10/1856 11. Clara Amelia Smith 5/9/1881 12. Edward Thomas Smith 10/11/1886 13. Eliza Jane Smith 17/12/1848 14. Elizabeth Smith 30/11/1844 15. Emma Smith 14/2/1886 16. Emma May Smith 19/3/1844 17. Emma Sophia Smith 31/3/1877 18. Ethel Henrietta Smith 11/1/1889 19. Fanny Smith 17/11/1891 20. Florence Smith 4/8/1882 21. Florence Lillian Smith 27/4/1895 22. Frances Jane Smith 14/1/1875 23. George Smith 2/11/1889 24. George Henry Smith 3/8/1892 out of order in registry date is probably 3/9/ 25. George William Smith 2/1/1876 26. Harriet Smith 24/6/1888 27. Henry James Smith 10/3/1885 28. Honor Smith 27/7/1840 29. James Smith 6/12/1878 30. James Smith 28/12/1883 31. Jane Smith 26/7/1853 32. John Smith 17/11/1849 33. John Smith 2/5/1859 34. John James Smith 24/12/1873 35. Mary Ann Smith 5/1/1845 36. Mary Ann Smith 30/6/1869 37. Mary Ann Smith 3/10/1880 38. Mary Anne Smith 17/1/1863 39. Mary Jane Smith 5/4/1881 40. Percy Smith - - - - 41. William Bland Smith 12/6/1866 42. Peter William Smith 22/12/1875 43. Richard Horner Smith 2/11/1863 44. Robert Smith 5/6/1850 45. Robert Burdett Smith 2/7/1895 46. Samuel Smith 12/10/1891 47. Silvia Maud Smith 23/12/1892 48. Susanna Cornish Smith 19/1/1858 49. Therisa Smith 30/4/1879 50. Thomas Smith 13/2/1845 51. Thomas Smith 13/3/1866 52. Thomas Smith 15/8/1884 53. Thomas William Smith 11/2/1883 54. Whitbread Samuel Smith 18/2/1878 55. William Smith 28/2/1855 56. William Arkell Smith 19/8/1869 57. William Smith - - - - 58. Arthur James Smith 23/9/1894 59. William Kempton Smith 13/6/1888 Cheers Amanda Sydney, NSW

To who ever sent this: Thank you ever so much. This really cheered up my day. The way to prevent this sort of thing is to find a relation prior to the arrival of the grim reaper who will promise to keep and protect the work for generations to come. To be honest I am wondering if this letter wasn't made up. Arleen

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Annual Meeting GSV on Saturday Oct 4 @ 2.00 p.m. ********************************************************** Reminder: Did you remember this meeting ? Library shall close at 1.45 pm so that you will not mess up President Clive Lickman's presentation as you hunt for a spare seat. Nominated Office-Bearers were all elected but there is still time for you to offer for election on one of the vacant positions :- Vice President - ONE position Councillor - FOUR positions. Here is your opportunity to help share some of the workload of organising the duties that have provided all those family history records that you enjoy searching. Lodge your own nomination to the Chairman at the appropriate time or "whisper you name" to me and I shall do it on your behalf. See you on Saturday. . . . . . . Talbot

----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" <lrobertson@vtown.com.au> To: <AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:49 PM Subject: [A.G.R. ] Inquest Help Please > Hi Everyone, > Just wondering if anyone can help me in regards to inquest information. My > Uncle died in the late 1970's, from an accident in the home. I know that > there was an inquest, I'm just wondering who I write to for that inquest > information, and if it is available to me freely or if I would have to get > permission from next of kin,ie/ my cousin? Dear Linda See : http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dpsoc/inquest.htm#New%2 0South%20Wales Newspapers can be another source of info too Bye MargM Beautiful Central Coast of NSW

Hi Everyone, Just wondering if anyone can help me in regards to inquest information. My Uncle died in the late 1970's, from an accident in the home. I know that there was an inquest, I'm just wondering who I write to for that inquest information, and if it is available to me freely or if I would have to get permission from next of kin,ie/ my cousin? Kind Regards Linda

Thanks Sandra for your reply. I will get a copy of the inquest record when I can get in to the PROV. Mary Anne, will let you know what I find in the record. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian & Sandra Magee" <sanbri@optusnet.com.au> To: "Jenny Gray" <jennyg@hotkey.net.au> Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2003 9:48 Subject: Re: [A.G.R. ] Confusing death/inquest > Hi, > > Is it possible he wasn't identified. I assume you would know that from > inquest statements. Or in one case I had another member of the family died > and it was realized the death had not been registered of the previous one > and this was rectified. If he had just gone missing and someone wanted to > remarry I think it is 7 years but not an expert on that. The name Campbell > is a problem also with spelling was it incorrectly spelt and recorded under > another spelling. Just ideas thrown out for you. > > Good luck Sandra

Hi List, Could the answer please go to the list as I, too, would like to read the explanation as I also have a similar case in 'the tree' Mary Anne, Myrtleford, Vic. ----- Original Message -----

Dear List, Just to let you all know I have found a researcher in Vic who is very reasonably priced and does a tremendous job. Extremely happy with all she has researched for me and I haven't had a long wait. Contact: Lyn Morgan <lynmorgan@ozemail.com.au> Best wishes to you all Amanda - windy Sydney, NSW.

Hi List, On the Digger Inquest Index Victoria, I have found my Robert Malcolm Campbell, but am confused by what I found..... The inquest date is 10.12.1925, but the death certificate was not issued until 1931. His death is also on the Digger death index as 1931. Why was the inquest in 1925, but the death certificate 1931? Cause of death is stated as "inhaled vomit and water whilst bathing". Jenny