Hello Listers I have an old Certificates - a 1907 issue of my gf's 1869 Birth Certificate which has some 1905 Amendments included - in a format not now used. Unfortunately, a relative who had it for many years, entered the amendments on the actual certificate in either fountain pen ink or biro. Over the 90+ years, the paper of the certificate has turned brown. Two of the amendments are beside the wrong information, but the third includes a blue line crossing out the wrong information. My query is this - does anyone know how to remove either sort of ink without damaging the paper? I've heard that 'Milton' can remove biro but have never tried it. I think there may also be a second certificate with similar 'corrections' to it. Any help would be gratefully received. Many thanks. Pam [email protected] Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia

Darlinghurst Gaol-Sydney NSW Today's East Sydney Technical College enjoys a well deserved reputation as one of Sydney's finest educational institutions, contributing to a broad array of the arts, professions and trades, all of which have served both Sydney and Australia well over the last 75 years or so. Perhaps not quite so well known is that East Sydney Tech began life as the infamous Darlinghurst Gaol, site of floggings, public hangings, starvation diets and all the unpleasantness associated with being Sydney's premier prison for most of the 19th Century. During the early 1800's much of Sydney's local criminal population was incarcerated at the old George Street Gaol {down towards today's Globe Street}, but by the 1830's conditions here had reached gross overcrowding. It was decided that a new and more substantial gaol was needed, and the colonial Architect Mortimer Lewis was commissioned to design Darlinghurst Gaol on a prominent hill over looking the settlement of Sydney. After many delays, the first stage of the goal was completed, and in June 1841, amid festive scenes, the population of the old George Street lock-up was marched in chains through the city streets to their new accommodation. Darlinghurst Gaol then remained the main Sydney penitentiary up until 1914, when it's unwilling inmates were transferred to the new "model prison" at Long Bay. During its long life, Darlinghurst Gaol hosted public executions on a makeshift gallows outside the main gate in Forbes Street, as well as regular "private" executions on the permanent gallows just inside the main walls near the intersection of Darlinghurst Road and Burton Street. Over 70 people were executed here including the bushranger "Captain Moonlight" {aka Andrew George Scott}, Jimmy Governor {known a Jimmy Blacksmith in more recent times}, and the last woman to hang in NSW, Louisa Collins. Henry Lawson also did time at Darlinghurst, for drunkenness and non payment of alimony, and recorded his experience in the haunting poem "One Hundred and Three"-his prison number-which was published in 1908. Here he refers to the prison as "Starvinghurst Gaol" because of the meagre rations given to inmates. After closing as a gaol, Darlinghurst was used as an internment camp for aliens during World War 1, and eventually in 1922, was transformed into today's East Sydney Technical College. This was a remarkable enlightened move, as we now have preserved almost intact, a vital piece of Sydney history, and which is now also contributing to the culture and education of the city in a way which would have astounded the original planners. An alert observer can still see the marks of the early convict stonecutters along several of the walls as an eerie reminder of the more sinister origins of the site.

Apologies if this message is received more than once as it has been cross posted to several lists. Thank you for your patience. Greetings all, I'm in the need of help from people in the States of: New South Wales South Australia Queensland Northern Territory Western Australia Tasmania Unlike Victoria cemeteries in other states are run by a number of different bodies. I'm trying to compile a complete list of all cemeteries throughout each state, that is public, private, and also cemeteries that are within church yards. My reason for wanting this information is so that it can be placed on a web page that is going to be connected to the Australia-Cemeteries List. Because I'm in Victoria phone calls to other states are going to be to expensive hence my request for help from people within each state. You help and support will be very much appreciated, and will in the long run go towards helping anyone not only within Australia but to anyone throughout the world, so this is not only a big job but the information will prove to be invaluable to anyone wanting to search for information on a cemetery. Thanks in advance, Raymond Henderson. Australia-Cemeteries. List Admin.

"Queen of the Grog" - Kate Leigh When a product is in demand, but if for some reason is withheld by the State, the underworld will always step in to take over the distribution, and a classic example of this had its roots during World War One. From the 1880's, pubs in NSW had been allowed to trade until 11 pm each night, but during the early 1900's the Temperance Movement began to gather more power, and following disgraceful troops riots in February 1916, in which soldiers ransacked and drank dry several hotels in Liverpool and the city, the issue of 6 o'clock closing was put to the public in a referendum. Subsequently, 6 o'clock closing became law, and this stood for nearly 40 years until 10 o'clock closing was voted in in 1955. One of the earliest to see the potential created by early closing was Kate Leigh, a rough and tough lady who had been living on the fringes of the Sydney underworld, and was actually in Long Bay Gaol doing time for perjury when 6 o'clock closing come in. Kate arrived back on the streets in 1919, when she had just turned 39, and was quick to grasp the opportunities offered by the change in the law. The demand for grog after 6 pm was strong throughout Sydney, and no less than in Surry Hills where good honest working men developed a considerable thirst after their days toil. Kate lived in Riley Street, but set up 6 main beer distribution centres throughout Surry Hills, which became quickly known to the locals as well as patrons from all over Sydney, and of course, the police. As with all good businesses, the technique was simple but highly effective. Kate simply bought large quantities of bottled beer from the surrounding hotels during legal trading hours. She then stashed these at her sly grog shops, which were just rented terrace houses, with one of the main ones being 212 Devonshire Street, which still stands today. After 6 pm, customers would arrive and buy beer at a very healthy mark up, or if well known to Kate, could drink it on the premises, as long as their money held out. This arrangement quickly made Kate a very wealthy woman, and she branched out into wine and spirits to further bolster her fortunes. An astute businesswoman, she showed a real organisational talent for distribution and protection, and hired a large band of couriers to keep her supplies up to the considerable demand. She took to wearing diamond rings, and always carried several hundred pounds in her handbag to bail out any courier who happened to be arrested in the line of duty. Naturally all this activity attracted a great deal of police interest, and a running battle ensued between Kate and the law which was to last some 40 years, and Kate spent considerable time behind bars, which she merely regarded as a type of tax on her business. Eventually Kate racked up 107 criminal convictions in her specular career. More dangerous was the interest attracted from areas of the Sydney underworld, but here Kate was protected by her sheer fearlessness and animal courage. An example of this occurred when she had just turned 50, at 3am on March 27 1930, when one of Sydney's hot gunmen, Snowy Prendergast, accompanied by several mates, broke into her Riley Street terrace. Kate produced a rifle and shot Prendergast dead, putting others to flight. Kate got off that one, legitimately claiming self defence. She was also sensitive to bad publicity, and irritated by the tone of an article written about her in the Daily Telegraph, she paid the reporter a visit, accompanied by a well known stand-over man. In front of the reporter, Kate asked the thug "And what will we do with this nice boy if he writes anything more about poor Kate?" she asked. "We'll do him over, that's what" came the reply. The reporter got the hint. As the years rolled past, she became one of the top two queens of the Sydney underworld, only rivalled by the infamous Tilly Devine, who reigned supreme over organised prostitution in Sydney. It was a remarkable era in which two woman exercised an iron control over some of the most vicious and desperate hoodlums Sydney has ever seen, and this state of affairs was to continue for many years before old age and a changing society finally changed things around. Time finally caught up with Kate in 1955, when 10 o'clock closing arrived, and the demand for sly grog dropped sharply. In addition, the Tax Department was after her in a big way, and she ended up paying large slabs of her ill gotten gains back to the Government. She was eventually declared bankrupt, and lived the rest of her days quietly in Surry Hills, finally passing away in 1964. She had a royal send-off, attended by the who's-who of the Sydney underworld, and she was genuinely mourned by many people in "high and low places". "Queen of the Brothels" - Tilly Devine During the Firs World War, many an English maiden lost her heart to one of the thousands of Australian soldiers en route to the Western Front in France. However when Miss Matilda Twiss of London met and eventually married Private Jim Devine, formerly a sheerer from Victoria, in August 1917, no one could have predicted it would change the course of Sydney criminal history. For Matilda was soon to become widely known as the infamous Tilly Devine, queen of prostitution in Sydney, and along with Kate Leigh, one of the most significant figures in Australian crime during the first half of the twentieth century. The Devnes returned to Australia soon after the war, and set up house in Maroubra. However Tilly, attractive and clever, soon discovered that big money could be earnt from prostitution on the streets of 1920's Sydney, and she graduated from being an operator herself, to organising a string of brothels located along Palmer Street in Darlinghurst. During this era, many of the girls engaged in prostitution were "privateers", working for themselves and perhaps loosely and unreliably protected by a pimp boyfriend. But Tilly pioneered a high state of organisation in which she provided food, accommodation and protection for her charges in exchange for a fixed return per client. She housed her workers in a row of terraces in Palmer Street, and herself took up residence at number 191, from which she directed operations for many years during the thirties, forties and fifties. In an amazingly turbulent career she was convicted on 204 occasions, survived several shoot outs amongst her wild male companions, nearly killed an amorous admirer with a pair of scissors, and for a time became fabulously wealthy. Her "watering hole" was the Tradesman's Arms Hotel, just up the road from her bordellos, and this was also the haunt of the East Sydney underworld of the era. However it was the Taxation Office which eventually achieved what the police could never do, and she was virtually put out of business by the late 1950's. However, when she eventually died in 1970, she left a not inconsiderable estate of $11,000, so perhaps she was to have the last laugh. But Tully's position as an Australian crime queen will never be challenged, and along with her sly grog counterpart Kate Leigh, in nearby Surry Hills, formed a unique period in Sydney criminal history in which two woman virtually ran the show, and this circumstance has not been repeated since, and perhaps never will be.

Could some kind person help with a lookup on the AVI for my ancestor. Jesse BILES He arrived (we think) on the "Alfred" at Botany in 1859 from what looks like Bramfield, Dorsetshire. He then disappears until 1886 when he is listed in the register for his son John Robert Biles to marry Ellen (another cyberspacer) then he pops back into cyberspace. John Robert said he was 19 and born at Brewarrina NSW, but in 1888 at the birth of his son Robert Biles he said he was 21 and born in St George QLD. I am sure everyone has had one of these ancestors at one time or another, so for the sake of my sanity, how did you solve it. Margb [email protected]

Hi, My name is Annie Lotocki nee Warner and I am trying to locate all descendants of Lieutenant Jonathan Warner Esq. JP. He was given a grant of land in Lake Macquarie, NSW and the area was named after him _ Warners Bay. I am researching and writing a book on the Warner family. The following are surnames that are part of the family. Family Index Ernest S Abbot and Lillian M Warner Robert J Abbot and Caroline Warner Robert W Abbot and Joreen Pascoe Stanley Abbot and Ada Raymond Alan Richard Adams and Doreen Grace Warner Bortie L Alexander and Hazel H Isbester Leslie Appleby and Norma Warner Charles A Babbage and Mary J Warner Warwick Albert Bayley and Ruth Elizabeth Warner Craig Ronald Bishop and Amanda Jane Wilson George Brown and Ann Warner John Brown and Dorothy Pearl Ford Maxwell John Brown and Margaret Joy Warner Murray Craig Brydon and Leanne Michelle [Shelley] Parsons Craig Trevor Budden and Debra Lester Budden and Marlene Rosemary Ford Robert Cannon and Kerry Anne Ford Cecil Aubrey Carter and Rosa Jean Warner George Cartwright and Anne Matilda Slater Richard Cowin and Nancy Warner Bernard Cupitt and Margaret Warner Bruce James Danvers and Janette Warner Graham Donaldson and Janice Cosgrave Norman Donaldson and Ellen [Nell] Marie Warner William Dunkley and Ellen Wells Peter Dunstan and Debra Anne Swain Edwin David Dwyer and Sharon Maree Ford Maxwell Fairall and Elaine Warner Stephen Fenton and Naomi Clara B. Warner William A Ferguson and Elizabeth S Warner Alton Ernest Ford and Phyllis Emily Peters Graham John Ford and Elaine Esther Foyle Hebert Arnold Ford and Leila Isabel Eagles John Reginald Ford and Julia Carolyn Hart Kenneth Douglas Ford and Veronica Lowry Leonard William Ford and Alma Amy Harris [McNamara] Lloyd George Ford and Coral Jean Pleffer Peter Charles Ford and Mary Ann Webster Peter Charles Ford and Sandra Weir Reginald James Ford and Ethel Flemming Royal Warner Ford and Violet Amy Hopkins Wendy Louise Ford and James Leonard Hawes John Henry Ford JP. and Isabella Louise Warner David Cameron Frith and Charmaine Rose Brown William Gibbons and Mary Warner David Knight Granthan and Margaret Ann Warner Ian Gray and Dianne Kavanagh George Grunberg and Rosemary Watt Kenneth R.J. Hall and Alice G Warner Gerald Hayes and Carolyn Warner Stuart Heckenberg and Roslyn Warner George A Hiskens and Laura J Abbot Robert Howard and Elizabeth Watt Jeffrey Inskipp and Jennifer Watt Arthur A Isbester and Katherine Grant William Isbester and Louisa Warner Christopher David Isbister and Dorothy k Bayliss David Isbister and Augusta Warner Bruce Brian jamieson and Robyn Anne Ford Brian Kavanagh and Elsie Isabel Warner Kenneth Kelly and Tony Louise Ford John Large and Isabella Warner Waldemar Andzrej Lotocki and Suzanne called (Annie) Warner Ian James McClure and Lucena R Cavan James McClure and Elizabeth [Betty] Clarice Warner Terry James McDonald and Brenda Edith Warner Bryce William Mcritche and Mary Catherine Howkworth Melville William McRitche and Gladys Grace Warner Robert Montgomery and Joan Warner Angus Murdock and Beryl Donaldson Russel Myers and Ruby Clarice Warner Ann Nicholson and John Warner Joseph Nicols and Suzanne Maralyn Ford Raymond North and Sue Kavanagh John Maurice Parsons and Roslyn Beryl Ford Steven John Parsons and Sandra Patricia raithby Ronald Pearce and Dawn Warner George Pender and Ruth Avery John Isacc Noble Potts and Ruby Clarice Warner Robin Potts and Elizabeth McCallister Robin Potts and Judith Fuller Barry Alexander Proven and Margaret Patricia Mcritche Matthew Phillip Rackemann and Penelope Nicolle Ford Robert Read and Judith Warner Edgar H Redgate and Gladys A.B. Isbester Donald Frances Rogerson and Joyce Isabella Warner Thomas Shuker and Marjorie Sarah Warner John McQuoid Slater and Eliza Alcott Rev. John Slater and Jemima Warner Nicholson Mark Strange and Suzanne Maralyn Ford Richard Swain and Marlene Rosemary Ford George L Walker and Myra L Warner Alan H Warner and Catherine J Campbell Alan Kenneth Warner and Jessie Rebecca Blanch Albert Alfred Warner and Hannah M Obrien Albert F Warner and Adelaide M Colyer Alfred George Warner and Ada JM Robson Benjamin Thomas Bray Warner and Katherine Emily Hamilton Smith Charles King. W Warner and Olena K.W. Charles Warner and Sarah Mackness Darcy Kenneth Warner and Margaret Ann Ince David Harold Warner and Julie Gwenyth Elliot David Allan Warner and Linda Williamson Edgar Kenneth.George Warner and Maggie Ann. D Gorton Edwin James Warner and Martha Ellen Pankhurst Edwin W.A. Warner and Ettie M Steele Frederick H Warner and Margaret Boyd Frederick Hawkesbury Warner and Maria Sophia Large Frederick J Warner and Beatrix Donaldson Frederick J Warner and Hetty Muir Geoffrey Warner and Gwenda Zimmerman Geofrey Phillip Warner and Lorraine Patricia Burley Harold D Warner and Daisy Vera Harris Herbert George Warner and Vera Urquart James Allen Warner and Constance Tribe James H Warner and Ellen M Baker Jonathon Benjamin Warner and Margaret Ellen McLennan Jonathon Warner and Mary Dunkley Jonathon Warner and Betty Field Jonathon Warner and Elizabeth Wagstaffe Jonathon [called Jack] Warner and Mary Anne Jane Large Kelvin John Warner and Kelly Jane Walsh Leslie Oliver Warner and Jean Hilda Ivy Williams Michael Warner and Peta Anne Tasker Owen Frank Warner and Leanor M Cadet Richard Warner and Elaine McLachlan Robert Leslie Warner and Rhonda Perry Ross Warner and Kaye Nelson Stanley Joseph Warner and Merle W.M. Montgomery Walter B.H. Warner and Gladys A Boxwell Warwick Leslie Warner and Elaine Wilson William Douglas Warner and Daphne Haines William Warner and Rosabella Charlotte Marsh Leslie Gordon Warren and June Marie Warner Geofrey Watt and Dorothy May Warner Thomas Weedman and Constance Gertrude Cartwright Robert John Wilson and Leone Margaret Ford Vere Graham Wilson and Emily M Warner Benjamin Woolley Nicholson Yorston and Annie Amelia Stumm George Linklater Yorston and Naomi Sarah Warner George Lucklater Yorston and Isabella Ann Warner Neil Kemiss and Daphne Donaldson If you can help please get in contact with me. Regards, Annie Lotocki nee Warner

Yes, is the easy answer. What you have to consider is that if you have a true and personnel story if you do not write it who will. History books only show the overall picture as it was at the time and how the author interprets it, personnel accounts are more living history, the person is saying "I was there, I know, I did that." Another consideration is that anyone who served in the WW1 is now probably over 100 years old, they are not going to be bothered about telling the story as it really happened, and those who served in WW2 are getting into their late 70' and 80's if we do not write their true accounts they are going to be lost. I would consider only one thing is there anyone a live who will be hurt by you telling the truth, if so find out from them if they mind, you do not want to cause unnecessary pain to anyone, by telling the story Good luck with your project Roger

To All Americans We have watched in disbelief the horrifying mass murder in you Country. Words can't describe the devastation we feel in our hearts. Just to let you know how we feel here in Nowra, NSW, Australia. Just hearing on the radio, there has been a bombing in Sydney of a Arabic religious centre. People are striking out here today. We send to you, President Bush and all the Americans people our deepest feelings. And know this evil will be dealt with accordingly. Our hearts ache in this day of gloom Amanda Curran Nowra, NSW, Australia

Dear All, I watched with horror last night, as the tragedy that has hit America and the world developed. Of all those who lost their lives, all innocent people who have family and relatives all over the world. I am sure I speak for all family historians and researches in passing on our sincere condolences and heartfelt sympathy to each and every family who lost a loved one in this disaster - which come form many countries May the world pull together and unite to ensure we offer every assistance to help these people cope with the days and years again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dianne Carroll High Country Heritage http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/omeo/ Pioneer Portraits of Australia http://www.angelfire.com/my/pioneer

Hi Kay, try these sites http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nuttall/links/shipping.htm http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/Hotlinks/Shipping.htm http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/ships.htm http://www.vic.gov.au/prov/UnAssisted2.asp http://istg.rootsweb.com/ cheers, robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Cook To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:46 AM Subject: [A.G.R. ] Ships Can anyone tell me a site where I can get information and or pictures on the ship 'Hibernia'. My Ibbertson ancestors came from England to Victoria in 1852. With thanks in advance Kay Cook _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? Please do? And do sign our visitors book? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ************************************************************************ Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Dear Lesley, There was an interesting article written in "The Age" called "The name game" in the Today section August 3, 2001. Although this does not answer your immediate family inquiry, it is an interesting article along the lines of what you were asking. Kind Regards, Elizabeth Pidgeon 'Leafy' Eltham, Victoria, Australia Please visit our web site at http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/ Research Names: http://www.perthdps.com/research/pid01.html Can anyone tell me if there is a record of street names (and proposed > street names) for Melbourne? > > The reason I am asking is that according to a book published in Denmark > in 1985, by Preben Dich (a Danish journalist who spent some time in > Australia), a local politician in Melbourne had declared that Port > Phillip had in fact been discovered by the Lady Nelson - and that to > honour her, we should have street names named after the Lady Nelson's > crew. > > Well, I have consulted my Melways - discovering, to my surprise, that > there are currently 6 streets named Lady Nelson. But none, sadly, called > Jorgen Jorgensen (which is really the point of this enquiry - was he, or > was he not, the second mate of the Lady Nelson when she sailed into Port > Phillip in 1800). > > I have tried at the State Library searching backwards in The Age, only > to find that there is a Black Hole for the years 1973-1982 (and nothing > that looks like Lady Nelson in the card index from 1982-85). > > So, can anyone help with where I could look for proposed street names? > Not just the ones that actually made it onto the metal signs, but > proposed names as well? Are these names centrally administered in > Victoria, or are they dealt with by separate local councils? > > Of course, if anyone actually *knows* about this street-name proposal, > or can remember the year when it happened - that would be even better

At 06:58 11-09-01 +1000, Mary Millar wrote: >Reading an inquest this afternoon, which turned out to be not connected to >my research >lines, the above names were mentioned. If anyone who has a connection >would like the >information please contact me. The event was in Dandenong, Victoria. >Eliza Jane BROWN was a foster mother who had cared for children for 15 - >18 years, who were >given to her by a Mrs. FAWCETT. Hello Mary VERY interested, but if he info is long or complicated entailing lots of typing, could you just give me the unit number & case number so I can order it in when next I go to the VPRO I am always interested in anything to do with early fostering/adoption regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Abode Photo Deluxe Business Edition has pdd files. Not sure whether the extensions are the same for the home edition though. Hope this helps Dell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart & Shirley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:47 PM Subject: [A.G.R. ] pdd extensions | Is there someone on-line at the moment that can tell me what program opens | files with an extension pdd? | | Greatly appreciate advice, | | Shirley | | | ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== | Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? | Please do? And do sign our visitors book? | http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ | ************************************************************************ | PLEASE DO NOT SEND VIRUS WARNINGS TO THE LIST | | ============================== | Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history | learning and how-to articles on the Internet. | http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library |

At 13:48 11-09-01 +1000, Stuart & Shirley wrote: >Does anybody know of a Photo Studio in Kynteon? I have just received a >photo of my gg grandfather and I think I can make out some of the writing at >the bottom "______ Photo/s Kyneton" > >Any ideas? Hello Shirley, If it is your gg grandfather, what time span are we looking at? It's no use looking out 1800s if the photo was likely to be in the 1900s. You've offered me 150 years to look at, and that's too wide & time consuming regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Can anyone tell me a site where I can get information and or pictures on the ship 'Hibernia'. My Ibbertson ancestors came from England to Victoria in 1852. With thanks in advance Kay Cook _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hi all, Could SKS check the Vic death index for the deaths of the children of Leonard and Thelma ASLING - they were Leonard, Gwen and Coral, probably born about 1925ish. Many thanks :-) Cheers Jan

Looking for advice please. I am looking for a record of immigration for 1926. The ship was the 'Berrima' and after looking in the National Archive records I believe that the ship may have come to Victoria because there are two departure records for that year listed for Victoria. Is there an accessible index for immigration at that time? Regards, Mary Country Qld.

At 19:23 10-09-01 +0930, Rod Long wrote: >Hi, Just got a death certificate for George Maughan who died at >Chesterdale Station in the district of Grant. Has anybody heard of this >and can anybody tell me a good site for old maps 1854. Hello Sandra, Grant is the Geelong towards Portland Bay district. Chesterdale is not mentioned in 1. the 1841 government listing of squatters runs. 2. "Victorian Squatters" by Spreadborough & Anderson, ( pretty well covers the owners of stations 1850s to 1880s) , 3. "The Clyde Company Papers" (refers to neighbours up to 1857) 4. not named in the 1888 list of stations in the "Pastoral & Agricultural Directory 1888-1889" So maybe it was a smaller station or not one of the original squatting leases, not known socially to the Russells of "Clyde Company", or not one which survived to 1888? A lot happened between the 1841 list and 1854, so someone else may have a listing for that time showing smaller stations, or a local knowledge of the area, which I have not. Sorry I'm not much help, at least you know where it is not listed! regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Reading an inquest this afternoon, which turned out to be not connected to my research lines, the above names were mentioned. If anyone who has a connection would like the information please contact me. The event was in Dandenong, Victoria. Eliza Jane BROWN was a foster mother who had cared for children for 15 - 18 years, who were given to her by a Mrs. FAWCETT. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ Regards, Mary of Melbourne FOSTER, Coventry - PRITCHARD,Coventry - GEOFFREY, Middlesex - ORCHARD, Warminster, Wiltshire STUART,Glasgow, - EDWARDS,England, GREATZ,NSW - PFITZNER, Prussia WILLIAMS,CUNNINGHAM, HUMPHREYS,MULVIHILL - All to Victoria Australia

I am seeking descendants of Benjamin INGRAM and Mary BYRNES who married 1862 in Sydney. Known issue ... Benjamin born 1866, Sydney Alfred born 1869, Sydney John T. born 1873, Sydney Grace M born 1879, Sydney I welcome any interest in the above. Regards, Mary [email protected]