Hi everyone, I would like to hear from anyone researching David Jones (a builder) who built 'The Towers' at 31 Forsyth Street, Belmore, NSW in 1888. David Jones experienced financial difficulties in 1898 and sold the home to Robert James Forsyth, a rope manufacturer. The Towers remained in the Forsyth family until being purchased by the War Services Homes Commission in 1920. In 1941 Alfred Claude Fletcher, a descendant of David Jones, purchased The Towers and lived in the home until his death in 1987. Kind regards, Sherrie Blackman. Sydney.

Hi to the List, Found this URL today and just thought that maybe some of you woyuld like to have alook and see what one can find there. Sorry if you get this more than once. http://home.coffeeonline.com.au/~tfoen/meldeath.html Go to: http://genealogysearch.org/index.htm#new Have a nice day Alice Norton in Toowoomba,Queensland,Australia researching FLOAT/E,Chittenden from Kent to South Australia Robinson,WHITTENBURY from Manchester to Victoria Symmons,Nicholls from Cornwall to Victoria NORTON,FOLEY,DeKIEVIT,HAINES,TONKIN,LAURENTI to South Australia BUCKETT,BULLOCK,HERBERT,DINNER,MESSENGER,HUNTER, WARBURTON,CHARTER,AULT,STONE,BAKER,STONE,KNIGHT, BLACK,OSEEN,AUTY,GREEN,MAY,KIERNAN,CHESNUT,SPURRITT

Would anyone know or have any information on the Gilgandra cemetery please are they on line? Are the Registers searchable? Dose anyone have an address for them please? TIA Ray

I'm trying to help a lady find info on a family member born in Queensland please her name Elizabeth Bickle -- nee Hobbs Born June 1857 Father: Henry Hobbs Mother: Amelia Emily Newman Also any otherr family members to this marriage as well please (children) she married and become a Bickle Any help would be very much appreciated T.I.A. Ray.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Dunlop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 09 October 2001 16:10 Subject: [A.G.R. ] Derivation of Australia and Australasia > Is there anyone on the list that can tell me, or direct me to a source which can tell me, the derivation/origins of the terms Australia Hi Christopher The word Australia was first used by Mathew FLINDERS c 1803 . The NSW State Library have BASS & FLINDER exhibition on at the moment >, Australasia Not sure who dreamt up that version >, Australis? Is Latin ........Old maps have Terra Australis on them ...... means unknown land . Bye Marg Morters Member of Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

Hello Chris, I found this on a school web site: Name origins. In recent years, some unusual tee-shirt slogans have greeted visitors to Austria: "No kangaroos in Austria" and "It's not the Outback," for example. If students tend to confuse the names of Austria and Australia (the Outback), tell them about the tee-shirts! A lesson on name derivations might help, too. Austria's name is derived from an Old German term, "Ostarrichi," meaning "East realm." "Austria" - a later, Latinized version - has the same meaning. But "Australia" comes from the Latin "Terra Australis," a term for "Southern Land." HOWEVER - there does seem to be an Austrian connection after all! In last Monday's Sydney Morning Herald there was an article about the new exhibition in the NSW State Library "Matthew Flinders - The Ultimate Voyage", curated by Paul Brunton. In the article, there was a rather curious assertion: "Since medieval times the suspected land mass in the south had been referred to as Terra Australis Incognita (the unknown southern land). In 1606 the Spanish explorer Quiros named Vanuatu, which he thought part of the southern continent, "Australia", partly in deference to Phillip of Spain, who was also a Prince of the House of Austria." I had thought the the name "Australia" progressed something like this: 'Austreos' is Greek for hot, dry. 'Auster' is Latin for a hot, dry south wind - and thus became synonymous with 'the south', hence: 'Terra Australis' - the south land, which (from the time of Ptolomy) was thought to exist in order to "balance" the northern hemisphere. On his second voyage, Captain Cook set out to prove or disprove this myth once and for all. He thought that New Zealand may be the north-west corner of such a land mass - which is why he spent so much time sailing around it - and in the process developed a far greater affection for the place than he ever had for Australia - which was never in contention for the crown - being too far to the north. Cook didn't find the mythical balancing land mass. Nontheless, Flinders applied the name 'Australia' - in preference to New Holland or, indeed (baring in mind the contenders of the day) New Spain! You must add these to your list of theories! Best wishes Sybil Cameron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Dunlop" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: [A.G.R. ] Derivation of Australia and Australasia > Is there anyone on the list that can tell me, or direct me to a source which can tell me, the derivation/origins of the terms Australia, Australasia, Australis? > > Thanks in anticipation. >

Could Corrine Thompson please contact me re Echuca research. Eileen Sullivan.

Is there anyone on the list that can tell me, or direct me to a source which can tell me, the derivation/origins of the terms Australia, Australasia, Australis? Thanks in anticipation.

Hi Marg and Mary, According to the Guide to Supreme Court of NSW Probate Index 1800-1984, the abbreviation "prs" (all lower case) signifies "Grant made on presumption of death". I imagine this may be significant in your research as it sounds to me like this would be a person who went missing, or whose death was not otherwise certain? OTOH, if it is "P.rs" it denotes "PROBATE RESEAL". Whatever that means. You'd think they'd use abbreviations that wouldn't be so easily confused. <shrug> Anyway, hope this helps. Regards Pamela At , margm" , [email protected] wrote: >At 07:53 9.10.01 +1000, margm wrote: >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Mary O'Brien" <[email protected]> >>> An entry in the index for NSW Wills has 'Prs' in >>the right hand margin. >>There is no Prs but is a PPRS . This says : >>Probate pursuant to rights saved . Will appoints >>an original executor & also a replacement >>executor should the appointed one die before >>completing the admin of the estate......... An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

Good Morning Listers! Does anyone know who, if anyone, would hold early records of the Post Office in Victoria - ie. re contracts for carrying of mail? Regards, Beverley

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary O'Brien" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 October 2001 16:43 Subject: [A.G.R. ] NSW Wills > An entry in the index for NSW Wills has 'Prs' in the right hand margin. > Would anyone know what this means? > Dear Mary I have in my useful info to know file a list of abbreviations used in the Probate index There is no Prs but is a PPRS . This says : Probate pursuant to rights saved . Will appoints an original executor & also a replacement executor should the appointed one die before completing the admin of the estate......... so doesnt mean much.......just a safety clause Bye Marg Morters Member of Central Coast Family History Society GOSFORD NSW Australia

An entry in the index for NSW Wills has 'Prs' in the right hand margin. Would anyone know what this means? Regards, Mary

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Giiddaayyee All, I too scanned the Victorian CD-ROM and likewise could NOT locate any children from Donald and Catherine. I then looked for Deaths and Marriages between Donald and Catherine but there was No such event. Not here in Victoria. Have FUN looking in NSW Regards, TALES TALES [ Talbot & Les ] [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan & Bruce Hansen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 7 October 2001 10:52 Subject: Re: [A.G.R. ] vic lookup pls | Dear Colleen, | I looked up the Victorian BDM's for you on Digger but could find no children | from 1849-1869. | I looked under both parents and then Donald only but none came up. | Happy hunting. | Regards, Joan in Endeavour Hills, Vic. |

Graeme ROBINSON from Langwarrin just 45 klm east of Melbourne Victoria Au Looking for Ancesters ROBINSON, GARDNER,BEASLEY,MITCHELL IN UK Hi all have just got home page up but not runing proerally as yet but gist is there please could you have a look and see if any of surnames ring any bells and if any suggestions please forward to me . If any one is good with suggestions as at the moment can not get data bases to work Help please Thanks Graeme http://members.optusnet.com.au/~graemerobinson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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> Fair go guys what has this got to do with genealogy? Nothing - but it's an interesting query anyway. I don't mind a bit of offbeat stuff occasionally! Peter, the older of the tworobbos at Bairnsdale, commercial capital of East Gippsland

Wondering if anyone out there has any information they would like to share. In return I have various bits of information on Cruickshanks in Australia that I have accumulated during my search. In particular....I would like to know how my ancestors got out to Australia. I have read various passengers lists but cant seem to match any in properly. I have enlclosed below all the information I have accumulated to date. None of the family (including myself) seemed too interested in their ancestors...until I have recently....so therefore anything further back than my grandfathers on both sides is very sketchy. But now I have a bit more on my grandmother Aspinall's side. Hoping that maybe someone might be able to make some connections. All information is greatly appreciated...I am sure I will be able to tie them all in eventually. Thanks Cindy-Leigh 1. The CRUICKSHANK side originally came from Scotland.....Aberdeen to Glasgow aparently. It is said that they came from convict stock.....but I can find no record of them on convict lists I have read. 2. I am pretty sure that both the CRUICKSHANK's & the ASPINALL's came from Victoria to the Goldfields in Western Australia. 3. The WARD's or the DICKSON's originally came from south of England. Aparently they were upper class. 4. Either the LODGE, WARD or DICKSON's are aparently descendents of Sir Walter Raleigh. My Father : Peter Graham CRUICKSHANK married..... Marilyn Nona LODGE (Cue, Western Australia) on 2/04/1960.........Divorced B: 6/01/1938 ...................................................Kalgoorlie, Western Australia D:16/03/1995..................Age: 57......................Port Hedland, Western Australia Occupation : Gold Producer / Builder / Hotel Proprietor Peter & Marilyn's Children: Cindy-Leigh (1961), Narelle Ann (1962), Melonie Peta (1964), Kylie Maree (1965), Brett Ramon (1968)(dec:7/10/1998) At time of his death Peter owned half the Menzies Hotel in Menzies, West Aust. He also had gold leases at Laverton & single mens quarters in Port Hedland, West Aust. Previously he had been involved in mining leases at Menzies, Sandstone & Yunami. Before he decided to go back to the Goldfields he was a registered builder in Perth, West Aust. We had lived as a family in Osborne Park, North Beach, Karrinyup, Duncraig (West Aust). After the divorce he based himself in Scarborough but mainly stayed at his business interests in the gold fields. Met Marilyn in Bullfinch in 1958. Peter's Brother: William CRUICKSHANK (also called Mick)...........married to Delores HUNTER (aldo known as : Del) (came from Kalgoorlie before marriage to Mick) William's Children: Linda, Steven & Mark Peter's Father : George Garfield CRUICKSHANK B: approx. 1917................................Kalgoorlie ??? D: approx. 1977................................Perth, Western Australia Occupation : Builder married.......... Peter's Mother: Frances Amy Veronica Aspinall in approx. 1920's >From information recieved....Amy Frances Veronica Aspinall was born in 1912 in Horsham (Reg. No. 12586) to Titus Aspinall and Sarah Ellen Dennison. Other children were Ethel Eileen Ida, born 1909, Grace Edith born 1902, Wm Titus Denison born 1907, Mary Elizabeth born 1905, Eleanor Margaret born 1899 all born in Horsham. Titus and Sarah were married in Dimboola in 1899 and the Reg. No. was 2607. A Titus Aspinall died in 1934 in Horsham, aged 76, son of Wm. Titus and Margaret Davidson, who were married in 1853. The birth of Titus should be about 1858. Sarah Aspinall died in 1966 in Horsham (aged 86) and it showed that her parents were Fred Dennison and Ellen Taylor. Maybe she was born in New South Wales ______________________ My Mother: Marilyn Nona Lodge B: 8/08/1940....................................................Cue, Western Australia Lived most of life in Big Bell & started work at 14yrs old in the Big Bell Post Office. Transfered to Perth when mine closed in 1954 and worked there until she got married in 1960. After married she continued to live in Perth apart from when she followed my father working on different sites around wheatbelt & goldfields. Now living in South West of Western Australia. Marilyn's Father: Robert (Bob) William LODGE B: 4/12/1908 D: approx. 1994 Robert's Siblings: Frank......(daughters: Marlene, Valerie, Janice & Robert) , Oliver (died 6 mths old of meningitis) married ........... 1938 Marilyn's Mother: Audrey Nona LODGE (nee: WARD-DICKSON) B: 21/01/1917 D: 23/07/1997 Audrey's Children: Marilyn Nona, Roberta (Bobbie) Ann, Patricia Beryl (Patti), Leanne Elizabeth (Lee) Audrey's Known Siblings: Beryl, Nancy, Frank (dec), Jean (dec) Audrey's Father: Albert George DICKSON Audrey's Mother: Nona Elizabeth WARD Bob & Audrey spent most of their life in the goldfields. Bob was shift boss at the Big Bell minesite @ Cue , West Aust, for 16 years 1938 - 1954 when Bob went to Mt Magnet & they based their family in Yokine, Perth. They then went to the Prothero lead mine jsut out from Geraldton until about 1956. Bob and Audrey then moved to Bullfinch in approx. 1956 until 1964. (they kept house at Yokine & rented it out) They then moved to Three Springs where Bob managed the talc mine there. Patricia & Leanne attended Three Springs primary school & Carnamah high school. Marilyn & Bobbie left school at 14yrs old to go to work. Bob was also in WWII....I dont know what as. He and Audrey kept in touch via mail, which is how he proposed to her. Bob was enlisted at least until Marilyn was 2 yrs old I think.

Fair go guys what has this got to do with genealogy? Ray. List Admin. Jones wrote: > I know this is a strange one, but does anyone recall Billy the Budgie on > a Sydney radio show? He is believed to be the pet of Bert and Lydia > Peach. > > Susan Jones nee Pegrum > Sydney > > ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? > Please do? And do sign our visitors book? > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ > ************************************************************************ > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List!<--------- OFF Topic ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Searchable archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-GEN-RESEARCH-L > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Dear Colleen, I looked up the Victorian BDM's for you on Digger but could find no children from 1849-1869. I looked under both parents and then Donald only but none came up. Happy hunting. Regards, Joan in Endeavour Hills, Vic. -----Original Message----- From: P & C Walker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 7 October 2001 2:12 Subject: [A.G.R. ] vic lookup pls >It's not often I ask for a 'lookup' but I need to know if anyone has Vic. >bdm's and can look for any issue of a Donald MCKAY and Catherine (nee >Campbell) from 1849 - 1869. I am in Queensland next weekend and >intend to look up there but am working all this week and need to know before >the weekend. >I thank anyone in the hope that this is possible. >Regard >Colleen >Central Coast > > > > >==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== >Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? >Please do? And do sign our visitors book? >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ >************************************************************************ >Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! >************************************************************************ >Searchable Archives at >http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-GEN-RESEARC H-L > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >