Hi mouse, The marriage CD's for Victoria do not give the parents names. They do tell you where each party was born though Cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: mouse To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:12 AM Subject: [A.G.R. ] marriage cd Hi...can anyone explain if the marriage cd will have the parents names of the couples getting married on them or just the information of the parties being wed? What years will this cover? TIA Mouse ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? Please do? And do sign our visitors book? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ ************************************************************************ http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html If you are leaving town for the Holidays or on vacation, unsubscribe while you are gone, so your mailbox doesn't fill up ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Hi...can anyone explain if the marriage cd will have the parents names of the couples getting married on them or just the information of the parties being wed? What years will this cover? TIA Mouse

Dear Denise, I met with that same problem. I live in Arizona and here in the USA we have the VHS system. In Australia they have the PAL system. If you can find a transcribing service that can put the VHS into its machine and a blank in the PAL machine and get the two machines to "talk to each other", you should have a tape that you can view. On the other hand, if you have the same cam corder that they used at the reunion, you can view it on the cam corder and look at a 2inch x 2 inch screen to see what the reunion was all about. hope this helps, cheers, Beverly Markham. Life on Earth is Expensive, but at least you get a free trip around the sun....... So wear a hat and enjoy the ride!

hi all, I just wish to say a very heartfelt and public thank you to Jacqui from Oldnewscopy. She has been so helpful and has gone out of her way to assist me with my search. Thanks again. Sandra All dead all dead But I should not grieve In time it comes to ev'ryone All dead all dead But in hope I breathe Of course I don't believe You're dead and gone All dead and gone -Brian May _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hello List, This may solve a brick wall for someone, of how an ancestor got here! Cheers Jacqui Cunningham Central Victoria http://www.oldnewscopy.com "It's Old News!" Victoria Police Gazette, April 13, 1855. "Sydney Crime Reports, 11th January, 1855. Constable James CONNELLY, who absconded from the Metropolitan Police on 6th January, has surrendered himself. He has been re-attested under his proper name, Dennis HARKEY; he assumed the name of CONNELLY, having purchased an emigration ticket from a man of that name at Birkenhead, with which he obtained a passage to this Colony. For this fraud he has this day been dismissed the force."

Hi All. This may help someone as it is not in the death index or the inquest index. Cheers Jacqui Cunningham Central Victoria http://www.oldnewscopy.com "It's Old News!" Victoria Police Gazette, April 13, 1855, "Whereas a woman named CUSICK died about four days ago at the house of John DIGNAM, 49 Little Bourke-street east, leaving two children utterly destitute, information respecting the father of said children is requested by the Inspector of Police, Melbourne - 7th April, 1855."

ANY YOCKNEY DESCENDANTS Hi, Dr John Yockney from Wales and myself are putting together a YOCKNEY Families Book. We are hoping to add many Yockney lines. If you are interested please contact me. It may be just a matter of purchasing a few certificates to link to the Yockneys of England which each line has been documented since registers began. We also need a link to the American Yockney's. We know there is Yockney lines in the US, New Zealand, Africa, Canada and Australia thought no male lines appear in the Australian phone book. Hope you will be in it. Amanda [email protected] Nowra on the south coast of Australia

Hello listers, Thankyou so much for all your help with my last Mudgee question. I feel encourage to pose another! Martha Jane SMITH married Henry CROSSING at 'Caerleon' Mudgee in 1872. The wonderful AUGlig site indicates that Caerleon is still there. Could you please tell my whether it is a house in the town or a property outside it? Also, would you know which family owned it - the Smiths or the Crossings? Many thanks Sybil Cameron

Hello "Mouse" I would expect the "PR" to refer to "Putative Relative" where the deputy registrar did not believe the relationship she claimed for some reason but did not want to alert her of his suspicions by writing it in full. Do you know what relationship she had claimed? (wife? daughter?, etc?) At 03:20 26-10-01 +0930, mouse wrote: >Hi.. am hoping someone can help answer a puzzle for me..on investigating a >death certificate of an ancestor I found next to the person who was their >recorded relative the name Sarah and then in brackets (PR) can anyone tell >me what these intials would refer too >regards >Mouse > > >==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > >************************************************************************ >Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List!<--------- OFF Topic ----- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hey have you updated your AntiVirus program lately ? ? >Is your AV continuously activated while online ? ? >Does your AV continue to check each and every email as it is down loaded ? ? >Does your AV continue to check every Website you inter into ? ? >Better to be safe than sorry . . . let HouseCall check out your system FREE ! >http://housecall.antivirus.com/. >other sites you might want to check out . . . >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Aid/AID-VirusProtect.htm >-this one mentioned in Missing Links Vol. 5 No. 44 http://antivirus.cai.com/ >- this one was mentioned on the Listowner List >http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_index.cfm > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >============================== >Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Hi.. am hoping someone can help answer a puzzle for me..on investigating a death certificate of an ancestor I found next to the person who was their recorded relative the name Sarah and then in brackets (PR) can anyone tell me what these intials would refer too regards Mouse

The following transcription is provided purely as a service to the many members/contributors of this news group. We have no connection whatsoever with ACP or The Australian Women's Weekly. Where are they now? - The Australian Women's Weekly; November 2001, p 277 * * * * * Where are they now? If you are searching for relatives, old school friends or one-time loves you haven't quite forgotten, you may find them - or even be found yourself - on this page. DEBBIE FOX was a nurse in the Royal Australian Army Nursing Corps at Townsville's Lavarack Barracks during the 1970s. Originally from Mossman in Queensland, she has a son called Michael. I would love to make contact again. Please phone Kitty Ryan on (02) 6842 1934. PAULINE COLLARD lived at Bellerive, Tasmania, and worked at Concord Repatriation Hospital in the 1960s. I believe her father was a diver in Hobart. I would like to make contact with a very dear friend. Bob Tuxford, PO Box 1321, Maroochydore, Qld 4558. 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Any information on this couple from Victoria before I send for the marriage certificate. I hope she is the Mary Elizabeth Foster born Victoria about 1886. Jill

My ancestor, Alfred Plumridge, is listed as an engine driver on his daughter's marriage certificate in 1897. In an obituary notice for him, in March 1922, it states "he was an engine driver on the railways 35 years ago" (which would have been about 1887). Could any listers advise if there are records in existence for railway employees during this time period? Also, could anyone suggest any books on railways during the 1880-1900 period, especially those that may include the Newcastle area. I would really appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks, Maureen.

Hi Listers I would like your thoughts on where next to search for Deep sea Divers from1879 1910. Not many around then , I should think. My grandfather Thomas Jennings Fawkner arrived here in Sydney in1879 Born in Clovelly Devon 1841 He did go to Boston for a short time before arriving here I have a photo of a group of hard hat divers on a punt in Sydney .I can make out "Divers Hire Punt" , there are 5 divers[Thomas is one ] and 13 hands . I would say to take turns at the pump. Thomas did a lot of work in Sydney waters and the Northern Rivers repairing the wharf and pileons In 1900 he was sent to Norfolk on his own to blast out the harbour I have a diary to this effect , but can find nothing on divers at all in Sydney. The Public Works employed him also , but the archives have no records of divers Where do I look? Trish in Sydney

Looking for any descendants of Howard Francis BROWN b. 21.11.1882 Richmond, Victoria. - parents Jordan Edward BROWN and Emily GEOFFREY. Howard married Ann Jane VEALE and had Howard Edward b. 1908, Geoffrey William b. 1913 and Phyllis Isabel b. 1911 all at Armadale. Victoria; also Gladys Ann b. 1915 and Stanley Francis b. 1918 both born at Brighton, Victoria. Howard Francis BROWN was a photographer with rooms in Collins Street and Geelong. Regards, Mary of Melbourne Researching, FOSTER, Coventry >Aust - PRITCHARD,Coventry>Aust GEOFFREY,Bloomsbury, Middlesex>Aust - ORCHARD, Warminster, Wiltshire>Aust STUART,Aberdeen, >Aust - EDWARDS,England>Aust GREATZ,NSW>Aust - PFITZNER, Prussia>Aust WILLIAMS,CUNNINGHAM, HUMPHREYS,MULVAHILL >Aust ,

Please excuse crossing posting of my research names CRAWFORD - USA / VICTORIA POSTER - USA/ VICTORIA MCNEIL - ISLE OF SKYE SCOTLAND / VICTORIA HAEFFNER - BADEN, GERMANY / VICTORIA CONWAY - CO CLARE IRELAND/ VICTORIA SHERRY - CO CLARE IRELAND / VICTORIA NOONAN - ?CO CLARE, IRELAND PINNER - ENGLAND / VICTORIA VIA TASMANIA MARRIOTT - ENGLAND /VICTORIA HALL - ENGLAND / VICTORIA SIMMONDS - ENGLAND / VICTORIA SENNETT - ???? - NSW I would be interested in hearing from anyone who connects. Have much to share on most names. Denise

Hi Joanna, If it was from Melbourne the newspaper would have been The Sun www.heraldsun.com.au which is also available online but known as the herald sun now. Archive search online is only available back to 1984 though. Sydney Morning herald is available online at www.smh.com.au and also have an archive search available online Cheers, Robynne in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:40 AM Subject: [A.G.R. ] Judge Alfred Stevens This is rather a long shot, but I wondered if anyone had any information on an Alfred Stevens. Around the 1930s, some Australian relations sent my grandmother in England a newspaper cutting (I think it was probably the Sydney Morning Herald) about an Alfred Stevens who was being created a Judge. Alfred was a very common recurring name in my Stevens family, but then they are both fairly common names. However, apparently he looked the spitting image of my great uncle Alf (also Alfred Stevens). I think he was around the same age, too (50s). If anyone can point me in the right direction to find descendants of this man, I'd be very grateful. I wrote to the newspaper some months ago but had no reply, so I'm hoping someone on the List can help. Thanks very much in advance. Joanna in dark and rainy Coventry, UK. ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? Please do? And do sign our visitors book? http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ ************************************************************************ Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com ==================================================== Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

under heading CLUNES A town in Victoria which was the site of one of the first two goldfields discovered in that State. It is situated 1080 feet above sea level on CRESWICK CREEK 97 miles by rail north west of Melbourne and 20 miles north of BALLARAT. The surrounding district is an agricultural and pastoral one, and in the town itself are a knitting mill and a cordial factory. William CAMPBELL discovered gold in March 1850 on a property called CLUNES (after a farm in Inverness-shire, Scotland) and owned by Donald CAMERON, but the news of the find was concealed. However, the first discovery of gold in payable quantities was made by James ESMONDS (q.v.) who found rich quartz in the hills near CAMERON'S station- a discovery which was announced in the GEELONG Advertiser on 7th July, 1851. One of the first major gold rushes in Australia followed, and in the early 1880's the town had a population of 7000. A little mining is still carried on. A memorial in CLUNES commemorates ESMOND'S discovery. The town was the birthplace of the artist Sir John LONGSTAFF. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ Regards, Mary of Melbourne FOSTER, Coventry - PRITCHARD,Coventry - GEOFFREY, Middlesex - ORCHARD, Warminster, Wiltshire STUART,Glasgow, - EDWARDS,England, GREATZ,NSW - PFITZNER, Prussia WILLIAMS,CUNNINGHAM, HUMPHREYS,MULVIHILL - All to Victoria Australia

Someone recently was asking about early South Australia. This may be of interest, particularly if you can find his books. under heading John Wrathall BULL (1804-1886), inventor and historian, was born in Kent on 23rd June 1804. At an early age he took up dairying in Cheshire, and in 1838 migrated to S. Aust. There he began dealing in stock, buying from the overlanders to re-sell to new arrivals but the financial crisis of 1839 drove him to abandon this business, whereupon he settled near MOUNT BARKER as a stock owner with agriculture as a side line. the crisis of 1842-3 (which affected all the Aust. settlements) nearly ruined him again, and he was forced to concentrate on agriculture; his attention was thus called to the very primitive methods employed in this industry requiring a great number of field hands, who at the time were unobtainable except at exorbitant wages. BULL devised the plan of "thrashing a standing crop" - taking the grain from the ears as they stood and leaving the straw untouched in the field. In Sept. 1843 he exhibited a model on this principle, but it found no favour except with John RIDLEY (q.v.), who immediately constructed a reaping machine that was successfully used during the ensuring harvest. There has been a good deal of controversy on the question whether BULL or RIDLEY should be credited with the invention of the "stripper", but BULL himself never complained; how own account is that he had placed his model at the service of the public. He and several others afterwards constructed machines embodying the stripping principle. In 1882 Parliament voted him 250 pounds in recognition of his share in the improvement. In 1853 BULL went to the Victorian goldfields and had moderate success, but returned to S.A. in 1853. He than became manager of the GILLIES estate at GLEN OSMOND, planted a vineyard there and established a depot in Adelaide for the sale of is own and other colonial wines. Some years later he began to write a history of the colony and circulated privately several chapters of the work. this resulted in the publication in 1878 of "Early Experiences of Life in South Australia", which was republished in 1884 under the title "Early Experiences of Life in South Australia and an extended Colonial History". The book is an unsystematic but often illuminating account from anon-political pint of view of the first 50 years of the colony's existence. Bull died on 21st September, 1886. ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ Regards, Mary of Melbourne FOSTER, Coventry - PRITCHARD,Coventry - GEOFFREY, Middlesex - ORCHARD, Warminster, Wiltshire STUART,Glasgow, - EDWARDS,England, GREATZ,NSW - PFITZNER, Prussia WILLIAMS,CUNNINGHAM, HUMPHREYS,MULVIHILL - All to Victoria Australia