At 01:49 PM 14/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: >Does anyone know how one goes about finding information on property >ownership in England? The lands title system in England only came in to force in 1962, so not much help I am afraid. I believe that their system is based on our Torrens Title system. For more info: http://www.landreg.gov.uk/ Regards Pete. ============================================== Peter Applebee Elizabeth South Australia http://au.geocities.com/papplebee/ ==============================================

I'm trying to track down information on an Inmate at the above Institution in Long Ashton, Somerset, England in 1881. Does anyone know how I can do this? Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) Longford, Victoria, Australia [email protected] Researching: BEGG, FLETCHER, FRATER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORRAINE, McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, STENNER "Only a Genealogist would regard a step backwards as progress!"

Does anyone know how one goes about finding information on property ownership in England? According to a birth certificate for my great grandfather - Thomas STENNER, was born in Bedminster at 7 Bedminster Place in 1875. His mother - Sarah STENNER, has not listed any father for Thomas and so tracking down further information on them both is proving a little difficult. A search of the 1881 British Census says that 7 Bedminster Place was still in existance, although I would be interested to see who actually owned the property. Any clues or advice greatly received. Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) Longford, Victoria, Australia [email protected] Researching: BEGG, FLETCHER, FRATER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORRAINE, McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, STENNER "Only a Genealogist would regard a step backwards as progress!"

just wanted to wish all fellow researchers a safe& Merry Xmas and Happy New Year ....and thanks to all who have assisted my research over the past months... regards Mouse

URL's 11th Dec If you would like to know how to get the previous 3000 URL's Please email me privately [email protected] 1900 House http://www.channel4.com/1900house/ All Australian http://www.australianaustralia.com A Parcel of Gold for Edith http://www.headley1.demon.co.uk/books/pog1873855362.htm Anzac Day http://www.azmetro.com/nzanzac.html Australian Boys Clothes http://histclo.hispeed.com/country/aust/co-aust.html Book Marks http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jfm/bookmarks.htm Bourke Public Library http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lornahenderson&id =I1785 Cornish Online Census Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html Defence Personnel Executive http://www.defence.gov.au/dpe/ Dictionary of New Zealand Biography http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/ English Denization Records 1560-1563 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html Evolution of Man Directory http://www.wf.carleton.ca/Museum/man/tit1.html Geelong Infirmary - Admission Books http://users.pipeline.com.au/flw/infirmary/ Life Stories and Memoirs of Others http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StoriesOfOthers/ Married to an Alien http://www.rootdig.com/adn/4944.htm Mayo's of London http://pandrryan.topcities.com/mayo/mayo1.html Merriman Family of New Zealand http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/tazzie01 Monarchies of Europe http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Monarchies_of_Europe.htm Museums in Denmark http://www.museums.dk Portage Area Historical Society http://www.portagestationmuseum.org/ Preservation and Storage http://www.slv.vic.gov.au/slv/conservation/ reCollections http://amol.org.au/recollections/8/index.htm Royal Genealogies http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html Simply Australia http://simplyaustralia.mountaintracks.com.au/ Wellington New Zealand Genealogy Index http://www.genealogy-index.co.nz West Wimmera Mail & Natimuk & Goroke Advertiser Newspaper Extracts http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/index.html Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia [email protected] Tall Trees Family History http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/ Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html (Please note that large attachments (over 500kb) will automatically be deleted) ============================================================== May Our Ancestor's Walk In The Heavens In Peace

Hello, Would a kind and knowledgable soul know about the history of a property called "Umagalee" at Wellington. I think it was owned by Frank Nicholl PARKINSON in the late nineteenth century. Best wishes Sybil Cameron

This message has been sent to many lists:: Sorry. Hiya all, I have checked AVRI and NSW for the marraige of the above two people with no luck. Caroline was also married at one stage to George SHAW. One child of this union that I know of Lenis Dawn SHAW born 1922, Flinders Island. Carolines name appears as Cardine in the birth record - 21/7/1884, Talbot, Victoria.Parents Antonio LOCKE and Matilda ROSS. Sometimes LOCARNINI was translated into LOCKE. PHILLIPI could also be PHILLIPE, etc. There wer two children of this union as far as I know - Trevor PHILLIPI dob unknown, and Harold PHILLIPI dob unknown. Any assistance appreciated. Sandra Oh my friends we've had our share of tears Oh my friends we've had our hopes and fears Oh my friends it's been a long hard year But now it's Christmas Yes it's Christmas Brian May and Roger Taylor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

>From letters just unearthed in the US about Australians in World War 1. - "I sent you a cable a few days ago to the effect that I had been wounded. It happened about 11.30 p.m when a lance-cororal and I were patroling the ground between our trenches and the German, and on our way home we both stopped bullets. It was a cold night and after being wounded we had to cross through an icy cold stream of water, and then were taken through our entanglements into the trenches. The extent of my wounds are: Two channels through the calf of my right leg, in which the doctors have had tubes for four days; a couple of minor wounds where pieces of bullets have entered, and also a flesh wound in the back. The doctors removed bits of nickel and lead four days ago. Just now I had soup, chicken, vegetables, pudding and milk for dinner. However, I am off to England in a few days and don't know how I shall fare there. I was billeted in a French woman's house a while, where the children were unruly and noisy. ON my returning from duty one day I told the woman in my best French that I would like two hours' sleep. She immediately brought me 12 eggs having mistaken two hours for 12 eggs. While I am writing this, the guns are roaring 100 yards away, both sides going it their hardest. I pity the artillery men, for it sounds a terrific duel; heavy howitzers are working and the noise and vibrations are awful" >From the family of John Curteis McCaul and Emma Curteis Crawford their three sons, Allen Crawford McCaul, John Curteis McCaul and Donald Curteis McCaul - I have much to share if anyone can connect. First Lieut J. McCaul was admitted to the hospital at Boulogne-on-the-Sea where re remained a month and then was transferred to London. John was at the time of writing 27 years of age and he returned to Australia after the War. John had served in the trenches at the Dardanells and was in the evacuation. He then went to Egypt, Marseillles and Verdun. His brother Curteis, aged 20 wrote home from Egypt that he had just finished a 37 mile march with full equipment and 120 rounds of cartridges and was feeling splendid. Curteis too had been to Egypt Marseilles Verdun and the Dardanells. He was killed July 19th 1916 near Fleurbaix France and is buried 7VC Corner Australian Cemetery France. Another brother Crawford enlisted in December 1915 and left with about 10,000 troops including infantry, artillery Red Cross transports etc. He too survived the war and returned to Australia. Denise Looking for -- HAEFFNER - Germany-Vic.Aust. CONWAY - Ireland-Vic. Aust. NOONAN - Ireland MARRIOTT - England-Vic.Aust HALL - England-Vic.Aust SIMMONDS-England-Vic.Aust. PINNER - England-Vic.Aust SENNETT - ??- NSW CRAWFORD - USA-Vic.Aust. FOSTER - USA-Vic.Aust.

Dear Friends, As I received sooo many requests for the words to the hymn I have unearthed, which was written by "one of our Boys" at Gallipoli, I have decided to type the words to the list. This was originally published by the "City Mission" about 1917, and as such, I'm sure you can all use it freely. I shall type it exactly as it appears. It was found pasted on the back inside cover of the Presbyterian Hymn book belonging to my Great Grandfather, William McGARVIE (1858 - 1922) junior, of Pomborneit, Victoria, Australia. William and Jean Keith (nee ARCHER) McGARVIE had only 3 sons: Keith (1891-1969) Sgt. B Coy, 8th Aust. Infantry Battalion; MLA for Hampden; David (1892-1979) - my Grandfather - Pte. 8th Light Horse and sole survivor of their charge at the Battle of the Nek on 8 Aug 1915; Dairy Farmer; Hector Archer (1896 - 8 Jul 1917) 2 Lt. BEF, KIA Belgium, buried Dikkebus near Ypres/Jeper). "REMEMBER LORD" (from Gallipoli) Tune: "Lead Kindly Light" Thou who hast all Thy people in Thy sight, To Thee we come. Be Thou their guide, their comfort, and their light, Afar from home; Keep Thou their souls, in steadfastness and right - Remember, Lord, Australis sons to-night. Gone from the humble cottage in the dell, From home, sweet home; Gone from the dear ones whom they love so well To face the storm; Gone from the mansion to defend the right - Remember, Lord, Australia's sons tonight. Sons are now dying, 'tis the cost of war, Have mercy, Lord; Wilt Thou prepare them ere they cross the bar? Have mercy, Lord; Burst Thou Death's gloom by Heaven's celestial light - Remember, Lord, Australia's sons tonight. Be Thou their refuge in the darkest hour, Be Thou their stay; Stretch forth Thy hand, show Thine almight power In Thine own way; Thou didst on Galilee reveal Thy might - Oh! Comfort, Lord, Australia's sons tonight. (These lines were written by ONE OF OUR BOYS at the front and forwarded to the Mission by a friend. They will be sung in our Mission Halls on Sunday evenings. Will our readers pray that a blessing may accompany the message). Reprint from City Mission Record. Norman Bros. Printers.

Hello Everyone, Some of you may be aware of the FreeCEN Project at http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ The Cornish Online Census Project is a part of this. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html The first transcribed, checked & validated pieces have been uploaded and the index can be accessed via the above link or at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/cocp.html As further pieces are completed they will continue to be uploaded. There are both 1891 and 1841 Census records available. This has and will continue to be a huge task for volunteers so of course we are still keen to have more on board, particularly checkers at this stage. All you need is a microfiche reader and computer. If you feel that you can spare some time please feel free to contact me (Australia & New Zealand) mailto:[email protected] or Michael McCormick mailto:[email protected] (who is temporarily unavailable at present, so please feel free to contact me in the interim). Thank you to all those of you who have already completed pieces and let's keep them coming! Great to see all that work up in 'lights'. Regards Kay Online Parish Clerk (OPC) for St Blazey Cornwall Online Census Project - co-ordinating the Aus/NZ side - NOW ONLINE!! at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/ukocp.html

>From letters just unearthed in the US about Australians in World War 1. - "I sent you a cable a few days ago to the effect that I had been wounded. It happened about 11.30 p.m when a lance-cororal and I were patroling the ground between our trenches and the German, and on our way home we both stopped bullets. It was a cold night and after being wounded we had to cross through an icy cold stream of water, and then were taken through our entanglements into the trenches. The extent of my wounds are: Two channels through the calf of my right leg, in which the doctors have had tubes for four days; a couple of minor wounds where pieces of bullets have entered, and also a flesh wound in the back. The doctors removed bits of nickel and lead four days ago. Just now I had soup, chicken, vegetables, pudding and milk for dinner. However, I am off to England in a few days and don't know how I shall fare there. I was billeted in a French woman's house a while, where the children were unruly and noisy. ON my returning from duty one day I told the woman in my best French that I would like two hours' sleep. She immediately brought me 12 eggs having mistaken two hours for 12 eggs. While I am writing this, the guns are roaring 100 yards away, both sides going it their hardest. I pity the artillery men, for it sounds a terrific duel; heavy howitzers are working an dthe noise and vibrations are awful" First Lieut J. McCaul was admitted to the hospital at Boulogne-on-the-Sea where re remained a month and then was transferred to London. John was at the time of writing 27 years of age and he returned to Australia after the War. John had served in the trenches at the Dardanells and was in the evacuation. He then went to Egypt, Marseillles and Verdun. His brother Curteis, aged 20 wrote home from Egypt that he had just finished a 37 mile march with full equipment and 120 rounds of cartridges and was feeling splendid. Curteis too had been to Egypt Marseilles Verdun and the Dardanells. He was killed July 19th 1916 near Fleurbaix France and is buried 7VC Corner Australian Cemetery France. Another brother Crawford enlisted in December 1915 and left with about 10,000 troops including infantry, artillery Red Cross transports etc. He too survived the war and returned to Australia. Denise Looking for -- HAEFFNER - Germany-Vic.Aust. CONWAY - Ireland-Vic. Aust. NOONAN - Ireland MARRIOTT - England-Vic.Aust HALL - England-Vic.Aust SIMMONDS-England-Vic.Aust. PINNER - England-Vic.Aust SENNETT - ??- NSW CRAWFORD - USA-Vic.Aust. FOSTER - USA-Vic.Aust.

Hello Beverley In that column they sometimes put the names of one or two witnesses to the burial. So the name could belong to a relative. Just a thought. Sybil Cameron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Weymouth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: [A.G.R. ] VIC DEATH CERTIFICATES > Good Morning Listers, > > Could someone please advise me regarding details on a Victorian death certificate? > > Re Section (9) " When and Where Buried. Undertaker by whom certified." - I have always taken the second part to be just as it appears ie. the name of the undertaker. I have a certificate where the undertaker's surname is the same as that of the deceased (no, it's not Smith!). Would I be correct in assuming that this is just a coincidence and that the undertaker is not necessarily a relative, or would there ever be an instance where a relative might certify on behalf of the undertaker? > > Hoping that someone more experienced than myself can confirm this for me. > > Kind regards, > > Beverley > NSW > > > ==== AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > Have you visited AUSSIE-GEN-RESEARCH Web site yet? > Please do? And do sign our visitors book? > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ausgenres/ > ************************************************************************ > Virus warnings are not to be sent to the List! > ************************************************************************ > Searchable Archives at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AUS-GEN-RESEARCH -L > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > >

Good Morning Listers, Could someone please advise me regarding details on a Victorian death certificate? Re Section (9) " When and Where Buried. Undertaker by whom certified." - I have always taken the second part to be just as it appears ie. the name of the undertaker. I have a certificate where the undertaker's surname is the same as that of the deceased (no, it's not Smith!). Would I be correct in assuming that this is just a coincidence and that the undertaker is not necessarily a relative, or would there ever be an instance where a relative might certify on behalf of the undertaker? Hoping that someone more experienced than myself can confirm this for me. Kind regards, Beverley NSW

Hi Shirley, I use a guy in England named Peter Smith for my research over there. His email addy is: Peter D Smith <[email protected]> I have always found him to do a great job. He sent me a copy of the census page my ancestors were on, and it had so much information on it. I was lucky that on census night, there were other relatives visiting, and I also got their names, ages, relationship to head of the house, Occupations, birthplaces, etc. He is not very expensive either. I think I paid $20 (which includes an email, giving you the info, then the actual copies by snail mail - postage was included in that price.) I think his charges have gone up to $24 but I still think its a bargain. You send your money to his agent in Australia, which saves sending money overseas. Good luck. Cheryl > > Can SKS please tell me how someone goes about a Census search in England? >

Dear Shirley, Have you tried the England Look-up Exchange www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8555/england.html to see if anyone is offering look-ups for your area in the census. Why not try also the relevant county mailing list at rootsweb? If your Bedminster is the one near Bristol, try the Bristol list. Just some ideas, hope they help. Rgeards, Ann McClean [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I use the following for my research. ARCHIVE CD BOOKS - old books for genealogists reproduced on CD E-mail: [email protected] Web: http://www.archivecdbooks.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart & Shirley Fyfe <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 07 December 2001 3:43 Subject: [A.G.R. ] Cenus records in England - assistance required > Can SKS please tell me how someone goes about a Census search in England? > > My Great Grandfather was Thomas Stenner who was born in 1875 in Bedminster.

Can SKS please tell me how someone goes about a Census search in England? My Great Grandfather was Thomas Stenner who was born in 1875 in Bedminster. On his birth certificate his mother is listed as Sarah Stenner and his father as UNKNOWN. I've know idea how to go about conducting any other searches for Thomas . . . Tom married Gertrude Sturgess in England (unsure of the date at this point in time) and they then came out to Australia pre 1913 where they had the first of their 9 children. Tom and Gertrude both died here in Australia, Tom in 1965 and Gertrude in 1981. Am wondering if it is possible to search for a census record for Sarah and her son Thomas and whether there were any other siblings? Any guidance greatly received . . . Shirley FYFE (nee ROBERTS) Longford, Victoria, Australia [email protected] Researching: BEGG, FLETCHER, FRATER, FYFE, GORDON, HERBERT, JACKSON, LORRAINE, McRAE, MARTIN, PEARLESS, ROBERTS, STENNER "Only a Genealogist would regard a step backwards as progress!"

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond W Henderson" <[email protected]> Subject: [A.G.R. ] Need Help Please? > I'm trying to find the address of the Genealogical Society of the > Northern Territory, if they have an e-mail address please. > Hi Ray, Did you like a good boy look in http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/AddrBook/sa.htm#NT Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia [email protected] Tall Trees Family History http://www.users.bigpond.com/Tall_Trees/ Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html (Please note that large attachments (over 500kb) will automatically be deleted) ============================================================== Kinship: it`s all relative!

Try this URL http://sites.archivenet.gov.au/GSNT/Pioneer.htm#ANCESTOR Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters NSW on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Greetings Listers, I'm trying to find the address of the Genealogical Society of the Northern Territory, if they have an e-mail address please. And would anyone know a lady called June Tomlinson in that area could you forward me her e-mail address please? Thanks you, Raymond Henderson.