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    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] how did they arrive?
    2. Larry and Deb
    3. Hoping someone can shed some light on how a certain tree member, and her children, arrived in Australia. I'm stumped, at the moment. James Heard 1818-1902, married Sarah Stowers 1826-1877, in Chelmsford, Essex, England in 1842. They had 3 children, Mary Ann 1847, George 1849, and Henry 1851. The last known address in England for Sarah and the children was the 1851 census at Great Waltham, Essex, England. In 1850 James Heard was convicted of sheepstealing, and sentenced to 7 years transportation. He arrived in WA in 1853, aboard the Pyrenees. A notation on the Australian Convict Index says he applied for his wife and children to come to WA at the end of 31/7/1857. I have found Jame's address at the time of his death as Hoyles Plain Nr Halbury South Australia, in 1902. Sarah's residence at the time of her death is listed as Heards Hill, South Australia, Australia, in 1877. James and Sarah had 6 more children in Australia between 1858 to 1869, all born in SA. I can find no arrival record for Sarah, and the first 3 children, to Australia. Hoping someone can help, please.

    07/10/2013 02:45:40
    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] James McNamara baptised 1864 Hobart /James Montague Morrison said he was born 1866 Sale Victoria
    2. ron and joy
    3. Hello Listers Has anyone research advice or information re James Macnamara baptised RC St Joseph's Hobart 24th April 1864 1864 or has anyone any info about him after his baptism? We are trying Shipping because a James Morrison was on the Waroonga in 1894 (please see below) and James MacNamara's stepbrother was crew on the SS Prairie whaling out of Hobart ...we wonder if James McNamara went to sea? We have found no record of James Macnamara's existence after his baptism although a James Morrison (who might be James Macnamara) witnessed James Macnamara's half sister Fanny Morrison's (b 10/2/1862) wedding to Alfred Ray , gas fitter in Launceston on 8 June 1889 ,according to the Rites of the Free Church of Scotland ,at the house of DS Brunton. Alas, we don't have a copy of the marriage lines with the witnesses signatures to compare handwriting. We are trying to track my husband's grandfather who claimed to be James Montague Morrison born in Sale Victoria in 1866.....he gave that info on his wedding and his widow gave that info on his death in 1938. No sign of him in Sale or any BMD's. The first evidence we have of James Montague Morrison's existence is his wedding in Perth, Western Australia in 1891 to Alice Gee where he worked as a carpenter/joiner. OUR ENQUIRY - IS JAMES MONTAGUE MORRISON JAMES MACNAMARA? Due to the kindness of a Hobart based Researcher, we have much circumstantial evidence that leads us to believe he may in fact be James MacNamara baptised on 24th April 1864 at St Joseph's Hobart Tasmania ( birth not registered) 'out of wedlock' son of Mary Morrison ne Quill (b 1834) and a John Macnamara (b. 1837). Mary married John Macnamara b on 8 July 1867 . A BIT OF BACKGROUND TO OUR THEORY A key piece of evidence in support of our theory is an ad in the West Australian Newspaper in Perth 23 March 1894 placed by the carpenter of the SS Waroonga " Will James Morrisson, or Mcnamara late of Hobart please communicate with the carpenter of the Waroonga at once". A James Morrison 'signs on' to the SS Waroonga , Perth-Geraldton WA voyage soon after the ad. BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JAMES MONTAGUE MORRISON AND SAMUEL(BERTIE ASKIN) MORRISON After arriving in WA, James Montague Morrison purchased the Morrison/Macnamara property in Lansdowne Crescent, Hobart from Samuel (Bertie Askin) Morrison b 19/4/1857 Hobart, on 8 December 1896. Samuel (Bertie Askin) Morrison was the son of Mary Morrison nee Quill and Samuel Morrison SOCIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE JAMES MONTAGUE MORRISONS AND THE SAMUEL (BERTIE ASKIN) MORRISONS By 14th April 1898 both the James Montague Morrisons and the Samuel (Bertie Askin) Morrisons were living in Bunbury WA where James Montague's wife Alice was the 'nurse attending' at the birth of Samuel (Bertie Askin) Morrison's daughter Clarisse. So there was both a social and business relationship between James Montague and Samuel (Bertie Askin) Morrison. Maybe it was also familial? Hope someone can help track James Macnamara, Ron and Joy Western Australia

    11/17/2012 04:01:53
    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Re Passenger lists
    2. Glenda & Ross Mumme
    3. Could someone please help with the passenger lists for the following or guide me to where I could obtain this information ROBERT MORRISON 04 07 1881 to Fremantle from London CHARLOTTE PADBURY 16 09 1881 to Fremantle from London HELENA MENA 01 10 1881 to Fremantle from London Also whether ships during that time called at Albany and then went on to South Australia? Many thanks, Glenda Mumme - Victoria, Australia

    03/25/2011 09:39:03
    1. Re: [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Harbour Master - SCOTT
    2. MORLEY
    3. I should have said in 1857 ----- Original Message ----- From: "MORLEY" <jmorley@austarnet.com.au> To: <aus-wa-ships-timelines@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 5:17 AM Subject: [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Harbour Master - SCOTT > Good Morning > I am looking for the Christian NAME of the man who was the Perth - > Harbour-master > his surname was SCOTT > Has anyone got any idea? > Thank you > > Jill > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/17/2011 11:18:45
    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Harbour Master - SCOTT
    2. MORLEY
    3. Good Morning I am looking for the Christian NAME of the man who was the Perth - Harbour-master his surname was SCOTT Has anyone got any idea? Thank you Jill

    03/17/2011 11:17:41
    1. Re: [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Anything to do with William Blake BREMNER
    2. Margaret Northern Rivers
    3. Sheelagh, I didn't have any success in finding your family on a passenger list into W.A. however if you haven't discovered it already the national archives site digital copies are available online for both George Louis BREMNER and his brother Alfred Blake BREMNER listing their father as William Blake BREMNER. also the Western Australian papers refer have a couple of references - hopefully your folk. Cite: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3093805 The West Australian Tuesday 23rd June 1896 Cite: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3093934 The West Australian Wednesday 24th June 1896 Page 5 of 8 Cite: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3094066 The West Australian Thursday 25th June 1896 Page 5 of 8 WANTED, first-class Bread and Smallgoods Baker, at once. Apply W. B. Bremner, Northam. The West Australian Thursday 6 July 1899 Page 1 OPERATIVE BAKERS' UNION. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article3230240 2nd June 1923 The West Australian Perth http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article22633012 BREMNER — In sad but loving memory of our dear son and brother, Trooper A. B. Bremner, M.M.,who died of' wounds in Egypt on June 3, 1918. The sign of grief still lingers, In our sad hearts to-day. In memory of our dear son and brother, Who sleeps so far away. Inserted by his mother, father, brothers and sisters, Maylands. Good Luck - Hope it helps > From: swiles@ozemail.com.au > To: dps-chat@rootsweb.com; AUS-WA-NEWSPAPER-EXTRACTS@rootsweb.com; AUS-WA-PIONEERS@rootsweb.com; AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:49:57 +0930 > Subject: [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Anything to do with William Blake BREMNER > > Hello to all you good people > > Can you help me with anything to do with William Blake BREMNER. Believe that he belongs to our family but I don't know the best way to research the man and his family. > > I would be grateful for any information someone could forward to me > > With Thanks > Sheelagh Wiles > swiles@ozemail.com.au > http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/hunter2000 _________________________________________________________________ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

    05/15/2010 01:02:08
    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Anything to do with William Blake BREMNER
    2. Sheelagh Wiles
    3. Hello to all you good people Can you help me with anything to do with William Blake BREMNER. Believe that he belongs to our family but I don't know the best way to research the man and his family. I would be grateful for any information someone could forward to me With Thanks Sheelagh Wiles swiles@ozemail.com.au http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/hunter2000

    05/14/2010 09:49:57
    1. [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Ship list
    2. Sheelagh Wiles
    3. Hi Everyone I am not sure what this list helps for. I am looking for a passenger list of William Blake BREMNER coming into Western Australia. Sorry I don't have a date except there are two with the same name dying at Highgate 1949 (84 years old) and Leederville 1964 (63 Years old) may father and son. Can anyone help please? Cheers Sheelagh

    05/14/2010 05:50:46
    1. Re: [AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES] Ship list
    2. Shirley Roach
    3. Hello Sheelagh I obviously subscribed to the same forum as you at one time as I just got your message. I hoped that I may be able to point you in the right direction but from the date of death as 1949 at the age of 84, your relative would have been born in 1865 and the Ships List has only transcribed Passenger Lists until 1859 - so unless his family emigrated when he was tiny you wouldn't be able to find him. You mentioned that you thought they emigrated in 1890. Have you found them on the Census? If you can trace them in the UK every ten years and then they suddenly disappear, then that decade is the time to search. If you're willing to spend some money, this site might be of use to you: http://www.sro.wa.gov.au/collection/passenger.asp This paragraph looked a bit promising:- *Passenger Arrivals into Western Australia, 1898-1925 [CD-ROM]* This index was compiled by the Western Australian Genealogical Society (WAGS) from Immigration Department records held by the National Archives (WA Branch) and from passenger lists held by the State Records Office. It records over 430, 000 passengers into Western Australia arriving from overseas as well as other Australian ports. I seem to remember that I emailed one of the genealogy centres and asked them to do a search for me - but it was a few years ago now and I can't remember details. In any case I was searching in South Australia so things may be different. It's certainly worth contacting one of these kind of organisations by email and asking them how you might proceed. I did a Google search for Western Australian Archives but I'm sure you can think of variations that might suit you better, including adding to and from dates to your search. I hope this is of help to you - I have literally spent five minutes doing a few searches so if you are prepared to spend some time I'm sure you'll find something. Have you thought about trying to find out about the emigration from the Glasgow end? I did a search "emigration from Glasgow 1880 - 1900 Australia" and there were loads of hits. Good luck with your search. I just read your email again and of course Leederville is in Perth so I would be tempted to research the younger man by Census results, etc, because from that you will find details of his father and other family members and it might give you a lead as to when he emigrated. Best wishes Shirley On 14 May 2010 03:20, Sheelagh Wiles <swiles@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I am not sure what this list helps for. I am looking for a passenger list > of William Blake BREMNER coming into Western Australia. Sorry I don't have > a date except there are two with the same name dying at Highgate 1949 (84 > years old) and Leederville 1964 (63 Years old) may father and son. > > Can anyone help please? > > > > Cheers > > Sheelagh > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-WA-SHIPS-TIMELINES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/14/2010 02:59:34
    1. Ships
    2. Sian Evans
    3. Hi All, Could anyone advise me where i can find information about passengers who were on the Queen Mary in 1957. Thanks in advance Sian. --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

    06/15/2005 02:23:45
    1. New list admin intro
    2. Erica Hills
    3. Hi Everyone, Just a note to introduce myself. I am the new list admin and will do my best to live up to the high standards set by Sandra (who is a friend of mine). Please feel free to contact me at any time. With kind regards... Erica Hills mailto:erica@hillsperth.com

    05/04/2005 06:26:24
    1. change of administrator
    2. Fedelmar
    3. Hello everyone :) I have found myself in a position where I need to evaluate my workload and adopt a much stricter regime than the previous one I had ... as we all do at sometime in our lives :) Such being the case I cannot continue as list administrator and have handed the WA lists I administer over to someone else to tend. Good luck with your research everyone :) Bright Blessings Sandra ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    05/03/2005 11:57:24
    1. missing mail?
    2. Sandra
    3. Missing Rootsweb mailing list post? There is a way to retrieve these. (I keep two of each digest in the respective folder so that when the next one comes in I know whether there is any missing because of those digest numbers.) The Digest mode means that all posts to the list are contained in the body of one email that is numbered. The List mode sends you individual emails for all the posts to the list. First, if you are subscribed in the List Mode then you will need to unsubscribe and subscribe in the Digest Mode. The address is: (Insert list name)-D-request@rootsweb.com Don't forget to unsubscribe from the list mode first - the address is: (Insert list name)-L-request@rootsweb.com If the numbers don't correspond then you send for the archive that is missing. You can only obtain the archived digest if you are subscribed in the digest mode. To obtain the archived digest send an email to: (Insert list name)-D-request@rootsweb.com in the subject line type ONLY the word archive in the body of the email type ONLY the following ... get volume05/*** (replace the *** with the number of the digest that you want) There is NO SPACE between the word volume and the 05. (The 05 signifies the year 2005.) Bright Blessings Sandra List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    01/20/2005 01:19:00
    1. rootsweb ezines
    2. Sandra
    3. Excerpt from Rootsweb Ezine ___________________________________ I have subscribed to the Rootsweb Review for a number of years now, but many of you may not be aware of it. It is a weekly e-zine provides news about RootsWeb.com, its new databases, mailing lists, home pages, and websites. It also includes stories and research tips from its readers around the globe. Although it is US based it is worth subscribing to and is free. This week (and it is often repeated) one section talks about Mailing Lists 1a. LEARNING ABOUT MAILING LISTS: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ When you subscribe to a large, and/or especially active RootsWeb Mailing List, what should you expect? You will receive every e-mail message that other Mailing List members send to the list, whether or not those messages pertain to your immediate research. There is no way for you to selectively receive only messages that are of personal interest to you. If you are subscribed in list or mail mode, each message will be received as a separate e-mail as soon as the poster sends the message to the list. If you are subscribed in digest mode, you will receive several messages grouped together in a digest -- fewer separate e-mails, but delayed a bit until there are a sufficient number of messages to be bundled into a digest and sent out to you. You will be able to post a message on the list about some aspect of your genealogical research involving the subject matter of the list. You may ask for help or information, or you may post data or respond to someone else's query -- participating in the ongoing discussion on the list. Those who share their genealogical information usually receive more information back than those who only ask for research help or post generic queries. To make the most efficient use of a Mailing List, take time to review messages posted to it (even those that on the surface have no connection to your research) as there may be a clue or connection you wouldn't notice at first glance. When posting messages choose a brief, but informative, subject line. You want your message to attract the attention of other list members who may be quickly scanning the list messages for items of interest to them. Give them a reason to read your messages. Put sufficient information in the message body of your post so that others can determine quickly and easily if they might have information for you or can establish a connection to your family. What you can learn from subscribing to a Mailing List is often directly related to the thought and preparation you put into your list participation. Don't sit back and expect someone to feed you answers or do your research. The greatest value of Mailing Lists is in the sharing. ******************************************* Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 6, No. 23, 4 June 2003. RWR Archives: http://e-zine.rootsweb.com/ * * * SUBSCRIPTIONS: RWR-on@rootsweb.com ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    01/20/2005 01:18:48
    1. new to the mailing list?
    2. Sandra
    3. Hello everyone ... this is an update for this mailing list. Please read it and file it somewhere for future reference ... I am sure an occasion will arise where you will find this information more than useful. E-MAIL COPYRIGHT Recently in the Rootsweb magazine there appeared a notice concerning mailing list netiquette and the 'golden rule' of e-mail content written by another person/s that a subscriber posts to the list from another list or one received privately. What this is, is a breach of that persons copyright if you have first not sought their permission to forward it to the list. We often see "seen on another list", or, "thought this may be useful to someone". Please do not assume that the author of the original author wanted their e-mail (or part thereof) read by anyone else other than the to the holder of the address they sent it to in the beginning. If you think that you would like to post it somewhere else . contact the author and ask their permission first. 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If you have any further queries regarding this message to the list then please contact me OFF LIST. good luck with your research everyone Bright Blessings Sandra List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    01/20/2005 01:18:34
    1. Copyright
    2. Sandra
    3. Listers, just a few points to remember regarding this list, E-MAIL COPYRIGHT Recently in the Rootsweb magazine there appeared a notice concerning mailing list netiquette and the 'golden rule' of e-mail content written by another person/s that a subscriber posts to the list from another list or one received privately. What this is, is a breach of that persons copyright if you have first not sought their permission to forward it to the list. We often seen "seen on another list", or, "thought this may be useful to someone". Please do not assume that the author of the original author wanted their e-mail (or part thereof) read by anyone else other than the to the holder of the address they sent it to in the beginning. If you think that you would like to post it somewhere else . contact the author and ask their permission first. The Rootsweb AUP (Acceptable use Policy) at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html discusses the original e-mail content ownership. OFF TOPIC MESSAGES TO THE LIST Please remember to keep your postings to the list relevant to the list title. Every time a message is posted to the list, it is stored in the RootsWeb.com archives. If you post 'willy nilly' to the list it uses up vital archive space where more important information could have been stored. By the same token, when replying to a message, make sure you include the CORRECT subject information and ONLY the message you are replying to. It is also worthwhile to just <snip> what you are replying to, or, editing out standard footers such as those used by yahoo.com and msn.com. If you feel that there is something that you absolutely, positively must post to the list but know it is off topic then run it by me first. List administrators can all be contacted at: (list name) -ADMIN@Rootsweb.com. Bright Blessings Sandie List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    11/20/2004 03:32:22
    1. Things you need to know about Rootsweb.com
    2. Sandra
    3. Hello everyone ... this is an update for this mailing list. Please read it and file it somewhere for future reference ... I am sure an occasion will arise where you will find this information more than useful. E-MAIL COPYRIGHT Recently in the Rootsweb magazine there appeared a notice concerning mailing list netiquette and the 'golden rule' of e-mail content written by another person/s that a subscriber posts to the list from another list or one received privately. What this is, is a breach of that persons copyright if you have first not sought their permission to forward it to the list. We often seen "seen on another list", or, "thought this may be useful to someone". Please do not assume that the author of the original author wanted their e-mail (or part thereof) read by anyone else other than the to the holder of the address they sent it to in the beginning. If you think that you would like to post it somewhere else . contact the author and ask their permission first. The Rootsweb AUP (Acceptable use Policy) at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html discusses the original e-mail content ownership. OFF TOPIC MESSAGES TO THE LIST Please remember to keep your postings to the list relevant to the list title. Every time a message is posted to the list, it is stored in the RootsWeb.com archives. If you post 'willy nilly' to the list it uses up vital archive space where more important information could have been stored. Ever seen this 'just testing' .... 'I haven't had any mail for days' ... WHEN IN DOUBT GOT TO WWW.ROOTSWEB.COM HELP PAGE!!!! IT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING. When replying to a message, make sure you include the CORRECT subject information and ONLY the message you are replying to. It is also worthwhile to just <snip> what you are replying to, or, editing out standard footers such as those used by yahoo.com and msn.com. If you feel that there is something that you absolutely, positively must post to the list but know it is off topic then run it by me first. List administrators can all be contacted at: (list name) -ADMIN@Rootsweb.com. MANAGING E-MAIL People utilising RootsWeb.com mailing lists usually subscribe to more than one list therefore you may like to keep them separated. Most e-mail software contains a facility for creating folders and for filtering e-mail to those folders. Makes e-mail life much simpler, that is of course assuming that your e-mail software has this capability. If you are unsure of folders and filters then refer to your own e-mail software's Help facility to determine exactly how to do this. Personally, I find that this system keeps my various mailing list messages organised. I need not worry about which mailing list what message came from if I do not subscribe to the Digest Mode. The DIGEST MODE is a much simpler method of receiving list messages. For instance, instead of receiving 10 separate messages you receive ONE listing all the 10 e-mails. If there is one specific message you want to retain highlight it and copy and paste it into WordPad (or word) to keep for future reference. What I do if it something I want to keep in my e-mail folders, is I copy and paste it into an e-mail and send it back to myself then put it in the folder that I want to keep it in. (Bit different . I know). MAILING LIST PARTICIPATION. I ask that people participate more actively to the list they are subscribed to, although some lists, such as SURNAME lists are usually the most inactive because of their nature. However, for the other type lists, in order to MAXIMISE your opportunities your participation is necessary. You are only going to get out of your subscription what you put into it. (a) For those people who are subscribed to a SURNAME list ... you are able to actively participate by posting your interests to the list ... please remember to include THE YEAR (or there about). When you put the town/city in you also INCLUDE the county/state/country ... not everyone on the list is a walking talking geographical encyclopedia. Remember to put your SURNAME in capital letters for easy recognition. (Administrators are usually the only ones who use capital letters in messages to the list). The benefits of putting this information to the list are that it not only helps you to link up with other subscribers of the same family, it places the information in Rootsweb.com archives enabling web searchers to locate YOU. Besides these opportunities, if you give enough information people who have resources or live in to same place as your research may look up the information for you ... I know from personal experience that limited information given will not exact a response from these people. (b) For those people who are subscribed to a RESOURCE list, perhaps you might let people know what town/county/state/country you live in and what resources you have that may assist others on the list. Remember ... we are all subscribed to the list with a common goal in mind ... to reclaim our heritage from the history books and to help others find theirs ...if you DON'T participate you CANNOT maximise your opportunities. COMMERCIAL ADVERTISING This is a gentle reminder that advertising for commercial gain is not permitted on this - or any of Rootsweb's Lists. I have instituted one exception to this rule on lists that I administer regarding the promotion of forthcoming events relevant to family history, genealogy, historic re-enactments and the like, where an entrance fee may be charged, to cover administration costs. However, please run this by me first just to 'keep the slate clean', so to speak. LIST DEFAULT The mailing list is set to automatically send your reply to the list. When responding please CHECK the address your e-mail is going to just in case the mailing list is not where you want it to go. Please ensure that you have the CORRECT SUBJECT HEADING . because of the default setting the subject line will be the 'digest' (if subscribed in that mode). TEXT Please - (a) DO NOT send attachments to the list - Rootsweb.com does not forward these to the mailing lists. (b) Insert graphics into e-mails sent to the list. (c) Use fancy fonts etc - ends up by sending 'gobbly gook' to the list. Rootsweb.com mailing lists only except plain text. Finally, while I have this opportunity a reminder of those things called 'DO's' and 'DO NOT's' .. 1: DO NOT POST VIRUS WARNINGS TO THE LIST. (If you are concerned, contact me off list) 2: DO NOT FLAME OTHER SUBSCRIBERS AND MOST OF ALL ME. (I have been known to behave like a firecracker) 3: IF THE LIST YOUR SUBSCRIBE TO HAS A SET PROTOCOL - ABIDE BY IT. (You received this when you subscribed. The protocol is there for a purpose for all people and not 'your' personal agenda) 4: DO NOT POST OFF TOPIC MAIL TO THE LIST. (If you think you must, then contact me off list first) 5: KEEP YOUR WELCOME MESSAGE. (You received this when you first subscribed .... It contains list protocol of how to 'unsubscribe') 6: WWW.Rootsweb.com 'HELP' page IS JUST THAT - PLEASE USE IT. (Please don't post willy nilly to the list ... it WASTES vital archive space.) If you have any further queries regarding this message to the list then please contact me OFF LIST. good luck with your research everyone Bright Blessings Sandie List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    11/20/2004 03:30:25
    1. Rounding up family
    2. Sandra
    3. As it is almost the end of another year :) I thought that it was a good idea for an email round up :) This means that you post a message to the list and let everyone know who it is that you are researching. One never knows what the new year will bring. At the same time I will be checking the validity of addresses and if there is not a response from an address then it will assumed as a dead address and removed from the list. I wish every subscriber the best for the coming festive seasons and good luck with your research for 2005 Bright Blessings Sandra List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    11/20/2004 03:28:07
    1. retrieving missing digests
    2. Sandra
    3. Missing Rootsweb mailing list post? There is a way to retrieve these. (I keep two of each digest in the respective folder so that when the next one comes in I know whether there is any missing because of those digest numbers.) First, if you are subscribed in the List Mode then you will need to unsubscribe and subscribe in the Digest Mode. The address is: (Insert list name)-D-request@rootsweb.com Don't forget to unsubscribe from the list mode first The address is: (Insert list name)-L-request@rootsweb.com (All posts to the list are contained in the body of one email that is numbered. ) If the numbers don't correspond then you send for the archive that is missing. You can only obtain the archived digest if you are subscribed in the digest mode. To obtain the archived digest send an email to: (Insert list name)-D-request@rootsweb.com in the subject line type ONLY the word archive in the body of the email type ONLY the following ... get volume04/*** (replace the *** with the number of the digest that you want) There is NO SPACE between the word volume and the 03. (The 04 signifies the year 2004.) Bright Blessings Sandie List Administrator ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    10/09/2004 01:20:14
    1. Rootsweb Help Page
    2. Sandra
    3. Family history researchers, who are often addicted to their daily "fix" of mail from their favorite RootsWeb lists, began sending e-mails to their lists in an attempt to ascertain whether or not the lists were working, for some, alarm set in. Don't panic if RootsWeb's list mail doesn't appear to be reaching your mailbox as it normally should. Instead, do the following: 1. Check the HelpDesk's yellow announcement box for news of any technical problems at RootsWeb or with your ISP's delivery of list mail from RootsWeb. http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ or click on HELP tab at the top of any RootsWeb page. 2. Check your currently subscribed lists here: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ or click on the PASSWORDS tab at the top of any RootsWeb page. 3. Check the threaded mailing list archives to view the current month/year messages for your lists at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ 4. Contact the list administrator for help or information by writing to: LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com (replace the word LISTNAME with the actual name of the list -- using no -L or -D). NOTE: If there is a general problem involving RootsWeb mail delivery to a specific ISP and the list administrator to whom you are writing also uses the same ISP, he/she probably will not receive your inquiry for the duration of the problem with that ISP. 5. Contact your ISP's tech support representative and explain that RootsWeb list mail is not spam and this is e-mail you wish to receive. Enlist the support of your ISP in resolving the matter. Internet Service Providers should be more than willing to assist you -- their paying customer -- so that you are able to receive the mail you want. Here is what NOT to do if you suspect you are not receiving your mailing list messages: 1. Do not send repeated messages to the list asking if the list is working or if anyone has received your message. 2. Do not send any "TESTING" messages to a list. Remember that just because you are not receiving a message you have sent to the list doesn't mean that other list subscribers are not seeing your repeated messages and becoming annoyed by them. The mailing lists are for genealogical research for a specific subject and not for test messages. Use the above guidelines instead to help resolve any non- receipt of mail problems. You will find guidelines concerning non-receipt of RootsWeb list mail in a recent issue of the RootsWeb Review. You might want to print out this information and save for handy reference. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/20040107.txt Permission to reprint articles from RootsWeb Review is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, provided: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 7, No. 5, 4 February 2004. * * * * ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* http://groups.msn.com/SMITHsinAUSTRALIA www.visionsplendid.homestead.com/familynames.html http://www.fedelmar.homestead.com/history.html MSN Messenger - Fedelmar ICQ - Fedelmar (201309494) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~* Knowledge speaks and wisdom listens. ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*

    10/09/2004 01:18:13