Has some kind person access to records which may give the birth details of Hay and Plenderleith and in particular William Plenderleith Hay born 1900. He is listed as having died in West. Aust 1963 aged 60. Thanks in hopeful aniticpation of info.

The only Plenderleith birth I can find up to 1905 is this one: Ronald Plenderleith RICHARDSON, bn 1903 son of David and Elizabeth Tr PLENDERLEITH, at Coolgardie, Reg No: 757. There are no births, deaths or marriages under the surname of PLENDERLEITH. You would have to be more specific for HAY surnames, as there are so many entries. No entry for William Plenderleith HAY. Wendy Patricia Flowers wrote: >Has some kind person access to records which may give the birth details of Hay and Plenderleith and in particular William Plenderleith Hay born 1900. He is listed as having died in West. Aust 1963 aged 60. Thanks in hopeful aniticpation of info. > > >==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > >Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? >A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > -- visit: www.justgen.com for best Genealogy Chat, Links & Support !! See Wendy's Family Tree at: www.geocities.com/wanderer57au

Hello W.A. List, My great-aunt Martha Bell TEASDALE and her husband George Lee TEASDALE, emigrated from Cumberland to W.A. in 1911. I know that they were farmers and I know they remained in the state for the rest of their lives, but I know little else, and I am trying to fill the gaps. I am particularly keen to find out where they farmed, what kind of farm, etc., and it would also be good to find the descendants. My only clue to date is the Death Certificate of Martha, who died in Bruce Rock Memorial Hospital in 1960 at the age of 84, widow. Address at the time of death: 55 Dampier St., Bruce Rock, leaving one son - Arthur Cecil, aged 41. If this rings any bells with anyone on the list, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks and best regards, Ron Davies France

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * www.perthdps.com ... putting the FAMILY back into Family History * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Hi Everyone, Here's the Can You Help? column from today's "West Australian" ... * There is a photograph from DPS member Gwynva Rumball - Good luck Gwynva. The caption reads : BISCUIT DRIVE : Do you know these girl guides? The Melville District of Guides WA has started a guiding history project for the area. This photo was found with troop log books, banners and badges. Contact: Gwynva Rumball, project coordinator, 9349 4916; or Peta Barker 9330 2537. This photo can be seen online at : http://members.iinet.net.au/~ericah/guides.html Cheers...... Erica mailto:[email protected] (Perth, Western Australia) http://www.perthdps.com/research/hil01.html =========================================================== ----< CONTACT & SUBMISSION DETAILS>---- Can You Help?, published on Mondays, is a free service compiled by Jenny Kohlen for people seeking information about their families and local history or other items of interest. Reunions - other than veterans - are published on Saturdays on the Information pages. Full name and mailing address (for publication) must accompany every request, as well as telephone number and e-mail address. Send your requests to: Can You Help? "The West Australian," GPO Box N1027, Perth 6843. Fax (08) 9482 3830. Phone (08) 9482 3382 (Mon-Fri). mailto:[email protected] CAN YOU HELP ? : Monday, February 17, 2003 (The West Australian, p28) ========================================================== BUDGE : Seeking information about descendants of William and Emma BUDGE (nee BROWN). Emma died in Kalgoorlie in 1931. She and daughter Janet had been brought to Australia by son Donald and stepson William after the death of her husband (also William). Janet married George ALLEN in Victoria and then lived in Kalgoorlie with Emma and her six children: Doris, Maude (Bud), Winifred, George, Ern and Ken. Contact: Lesley Cleary, 2/42 New England Drive, Hillarys 6025. Tel: 9403 3341; or Phil Dolton, 9755 1130. ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« CALL AGAIN PETERSON : Re: Christian and Mary Ann PETERSON who settled at Stansbury and Port Adelaide, South Australia. A woman called the writer to exchange information some time ago, but did not leave her name or number. Please call again. Contact: Mrs Myrna Kelley, 35 Maritana Street, Morley 6062. Tel: 9279 1244. SMITH / 0'MEARA : Re: request published 13/1: Chris, please call again. Contact: Denis O'Meara, 9285 7501. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» CAMEL FARMER : Hoping to hear from Ted HEATEN (or EATON). Ted owned the Coolgardie Camel Farm in the 1970s. He was a friend of the inquirer's parents, Bill and Esther ROBINSON, of Coolgardie. Contact: Can You Help? 9482 3382. CURTIS : Descendants of Thomas and Mary Ann CURTIS (nee BAGNALL) are sought for the family tree. They lived in the Sydney area in the 1860s-80s. A daughter, Mary Ann CURTIS (born 1884), married the writer's great-grandfather, Christian Wilhelm BERGHOFER. Contact: Trent Curtis, PO Box 83, North Beach 6920. Mobile: 0416 097 148. Fax: 9447 9621. DEACON : Paul Clement (Alfred) DEACON was born in Sydney in 1871 to Thomas and Emily DEACON (nee DOUGLAS). He was a well-known brewer in Kalgoorlie from about 1902 to 1940; and married Mary CARROLL. They had a son, Thomas Alfred and daughters Lilly (Libby) and Nell (Helen). Information is also sought about Paul's brother Harold who is believed buried in the East Perth Cemetery in 1899. Contact: Yvonne Marshall, 68 Carter Street, Middle Park, Vic 3206. Tel: (03) 9699 1078. mailto:[email protected] GAMBLING : Descendants of George Henry GAMBLING who married Rosita BREEZE are sought for a family history. They lived in NSW in the late 1800s-early 1900s. There are descendants in NSW, Queensland and WA to date. Contact: Mrs Jenny Ryan, 13 Turner Street, Capel 6271. Tel: 9727 2705. GNOWANGERUP PROJECT : Gnowangerup District High School is selling name bricks for an historical path in a garden being made by the students. They are hoping to hear from past and present students, administrators, teachers, gardeners, cleaners and P&C members and anyone who has been involved with the school who may wish to buy a brick. Cost: $20 (deadline April 1). Also seeking older people who can help with information for research the students are doing about the Gnowangerup town. Contact: Daphne Fazey, Gnowangerup District High School, Yougenup Road, Gnowangerup 6335. Tel: 9827 1277. mailto:[email protected] HAWKRIDGE : Information is sought for a family tree about Morris Collinson HAWKRIDGE and his wife Ruby who died in Perth in 1980 and 1983 respectively aged 71 and 70. Morris was raised by the writer's grandparents, Herbert and Sarah SHERWOOD. Contact: Lorraine Hudson, 9581 2431. mailto:[email protected] HERITAGE GUIDES : Fremantle volunteer heritage guides are seeking new guides. The Round House, Gun Deck and Whalers Tunnel in Fremantle are open every day between 10.30am and 3.30pm. Extra guides are needed to assist the increasing number of visitors. Training is given and part uniform provided. All you need is an interest in local history and meeting people from all over the world. Contact: Beth or Andrew, 9336 6897 (Mon-Fri 10.00am-3.30pm). HYDE PARK : A conservation plan is being prepared to assist with the future management of the historic Hyde Park in North Perth. Readers who have photographs or plans of the park are asked to respond. Also, any information about John BRAITHWAITE, who was the city gardener from 1896-1936, or his son Harry Norman BRAITHWAITE (city gardener from 1936-1956) would be appreciated. Contact: Irene Sauman, historian, tel. 9361 0113. mailto:[email protected] - JOHANSEN : Seeking the family of schoolteacher Gwen JOHANSEN (possibly nee NORTHEY). A trunk containing her belongings has been found and it is hoped to return it to her family. Gwen trained in the 1930s and taught at Deanmore Primary School in the mid-1970s. Contact: Principal, Deanmore Primary School, tel: 9341 1610. KALGOORLIE PRINTERS : The Australian Manufacturing Workers' Union (AMWU) printing division, is seeking information about the records of the Kalgoorlie Miner Chapel. Historical material about the Printing and Kindred Industries Union (PKIU) would be of great assistance. Hoping to obtain chapel records from The Miner and to hear from past chapel officials. Contact: Ron Knox, AMWU, PO Box J867, Perth 6942. Tel: 9481 1511; or 0419 967 643. KEAN : Descendants of Philip and Margaret Josephine KEAN (nee BRYAN / BRYANT) are sought. They were married in St Mary's Cathedral in March 1894 and their children were Mary (born 1895), Philip (1897), Dorothy Agnes (1901), Winifred Josephine (married Tom HANSEN) and James (1907). The family were living at 996 Hay Street, West Perth in 1914, and at 32 Parliament Place, Perth in 1932. Information is also sought about "The Philip and Margaret Kean Trust", set up by son Philip (Br. Anthony KEAN) in the name of his parents. Contact: Mrs Josephine Conroy, 41 Springlands Drive, Slacks Creek, Qld 4127. mailto:[email protected] KRUC : News of first cousin Danuta KRUC (maiden name) and her mother Zofia is sought. They arrived at Fremantle from Mombassa, Kenya on the General Langfitt on February 14, 1950. Contact: Sylvia Carpenter, 116 Hudson Bay, Thompson, Manitoba, R8N 1.11, Canada. mailto:[email protected] LLOYD : Descendants and relatives of Martin Luther LLOYD are sought for family history. Martin was born in Tasmania in 1861 and is believed to have settled in Perth. He had 14 siblings including John Roberts (1849-1927), George Whitfield (1851-1931), William Joseph (1853, married twice), Ann (married Thomas MULLEN), twin Thomas Jones (1863, other twin died as infant); Julia (1864-1953, married SEAGRAVE); Christian Pierce (1866-1899), and Louisa (1868). The information is sought for the (W)RATT family history of Rutlandshire, Nottingham, New Zealand and Australia. Contact: Mrs Elsie Curnow, 200 Hill Street, Richmond, Nelson, New Zealand. mailto:[email protected] MOTORCYCLE CHAMP : Dennis BREW rode in the Goldfields TT motorcycle races in the early 1950s before returning home to the Isle of Man. His friend has sent us an email asking for help in finding news clippings, results and reports of the events because Dennis lost his memorabilia in a house fire. Dennis was often referred to in pre-race publicity as the "Mad Manxman". Tony Temple, Uplands Main Road, Glen Vine, Isle of Man IM4 4AZ. mailto:[email protected] PERTH BANDS (1980) : Information is sought about any of the following Perth bands that the writer's husband played in during the 1980s: Formula 1, The Motors, The X-Tras, The Optional X-Tras, Bang Bang and Spiny Norman. Copies of photos, newspaper clippings, posters, video footage, band memorabilia is sought. Contact Leonie Barker, 45 Stoddart Drive Bayview, NT 0820. Tel (08) 8942 3394 (a/h). mailto:[email protected] ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« PRIVATE PUBLICATIONS MANY MORE MARVELLOUS MEMORIES OF QUAIRADING, published by Mary Clemens, is a compilation of stories of the early settlers of the district which did not appear in Book 1 (now sold out). The A4 book has 284 pages and includes illustrations by Margaret Shenton and photographs. Cost: $46.10 (posted WA). Contact: Mrs Mary Clemens, 88, McLennan Street, Quairading 6383. Tel: 9645 1150. »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» READYMIX DIAMOND : The writer is investigating the history of the Readymix diamond carved into the Nullarbor near Caiguna in the mid-1960s. He is interested to hear from anyone involved in its creation. Contact: Dr Brendan Whyte, Geography Department, University of Melbourne, Victoria 3010. Tel: (03) 8344 4235. mailto:[email protected] VETERANS AUSTRALIAN GULF WAR VETERANS AND PEACE KEEPERS ASSOCIATION : Their meeting will be held at Belmont RSL 22 Leake Street, on February 22 at 1.30pm. All old members and any new members welcome to attend. Contact: Philip Steele 9535 9154. mailto:[email protected] ROYAL AUSTRALIAN MEDICAL CORPS (RAAMC) : The national centenary will be celebrated in Brisbane on July 4-6. Program includes a parade and dinner and a family day. Contact: Mick 0'Sullivan, 9442 1638. --End--

Hi Everyone, Here is the Reunions column from Saturday's West Australian. Cheers....... Erica Hills - mailto:[email protected] ________________________________________ The Reunions and Can You Help? columns are published on Mondays and Saturdays as a free service. Send your requests to: Can You Help? "The West Australian," GPO Box N1027, Perth 6843. Fax (08) 9482 3830. Phone (08) 9482 3382 (Mon-Fri). mailto:[email protected] ----< this week's submissions >---- REUNIONS: Saturday, February 15, 2003 (The West Australian p165) =================================================================== KALGOORLIE-BOULDER : Past and present residents are invited to a reunion to be held at the Hyde Park Hotel, Bulwer Street, North Perth on Sunday, March 2 at 11am. Contact: Pat Archibald, 9330 6425. KALGOORLIE CENTRAL SCHOOL : Seeking these past students from the 1955 Grade 6 class for a reunion to be held on March 2: Wendy ATTRILL, Bette BRIGHT, Nolene DIMER, Jean DOWLING, Gene GRIFFITHS, Bev GLEESON, Lorraine GOLDING, Pat HORSLEY, Janice JAGO, Marilyn PERRY, Bev POOLE, Janet STRACHAN, Kay VARDY, John CAMPBELL, Norm CONNELL, Graham EATON, Alex FRAZER, Bill GOLDING, Kevin GOSSAGE, Bill HENDERSON, Rodney JOHNSON, John MCKENZIE, Roger MILLER, Fred MEYERS, Murray PHENNING, Ted REEVES, James SCHEER, and David WALKER. Contact: Barbara Preston, 9795 7593; or Len Barkla, 9451 2391 (after 7pm). ST BRIGID'S (WEST PERTH) : These past students are sought for a planned reunion: Sandra WILLEY, Carmel MILNE, Christine BURRELL, Ellen LLOYD, Ann KEMP, Jenaette POSA, Antoinette BRADLEY, Barbara MARTIN, and Genevieve NOONAN. Contact: Yvonne Moriarty (nee Scapin), tel/fax 9524 1271. NORTHAM GIRLS HOSTEL : Looking for these girls who boarded at "The Hut" and started first year high school in 1965: Lois CARTER (m. WOODGATE), Robyn HENDERSON, Margaret SMITH (EATON), Florence HANDYSIDE, Margaret WILDER (VICEBAN), Lynn HASTINGS, Liz PATTERSON, and Hope MORRISON. (Pip, Jean, Shirley, and Judy have already been found). Contact: Judy Moore (Bennett), 72 Cobblers Road, Falcon 6210. Tel: 9534 6153, or 0427 552 964. DERBY : The annual reunion for past residents of Derby will be held in Kings Park (corner Saw Avenue and May Drive) on Sunday, March 2 from 10am until after lunch. BYO picnic, drinks, and chairs. Contact: Marie, 9291 6079; or Pat, 9279 3492. BICTON PRIMARY SCHOOL : Past students from the Class of 1955 (turning 60 this year) are sought for a planned reunion. Contact: Thelma Chilton (nee Sharpe), 9456 3204. mailto:[email protected] SWANLEIGH : A reunion is planned for the leavers class of 1970. Names sought include: Jill COLLINS, Lorraine KENFORD, Jane MUNRO, Jenny WOOD, Michael GUILE, and Douglas LAVENS. Contact: Rae Ritchie, PO Box 3233, Bluff Point 6530. Tel: 9938 1261. --End--

Hello! I am new to this list, hoping to find information about the family of Private ALEXANDER WALLACE who was born in Longforgan, Perthshire, Scotland, but who served with the 16th Battalion of the AIF during WW1. He died, a POW, in Germany on June 28th, 1917. My grandmother, who was still in Scotland at the time of his death, was his widow. Alexander may have had a brother, a CHARLES WALLACE (a Dairyman), who was living on King Edward Road, Osborne Park, Perth, W Australia, at the time of Alexander's death. If so, would there be any Wallace family members connected to Alexander and Charles who still live in this area and who would be willing to share with me any info they may have about Alexander? Thank you for your attention. Shirley (Nova Scotia, Canada)

Hi Jan, Checked out both my Lehmann trees and couldn't find a match. I definitely have some who died in WA but these names don't appear to match anything I have. My LEHMANN originally came to South Australia, with several daughters going to Victoria and some of the family going to WA. Thanks for the enquiry. Regards, Mari ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan & Bill McElroy <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-WA] BALDOCK / LEEMAN, etc. > Hi Mari, > I know nothing about your WA Baldocks - but I am interested in > a possible WA Lehman/Leeman connection - > I have a Henry (Harry) Alfred Leeman/Lehmann [etc] who married > Leta Victoria Chamberlain .... he died 24/12/1978, Hollywood, WA > & she died 19/8/1963, Doubleview, WA - they are both buried at > Karrakatta - Anglican ZS-443 - are you interested/connected to this couple? > Cheers, > Jan McElroy, > Currarong, NSW >

Hello List, This is my first posting on this list. This is the family of Robert HAIR and Mary Ann WHITE that settled in WA early in the 1900's. Catherine McKerral HAIR born: 29th April 1879 Corowa, NSW. died: 18th May 1963 Braemer Hospital, Fremantle, WA. Married: John Septimus BOYD 2nd Feb 1897 Presbyterian Manse, Narrandera, NSW. born: 18th July 1868 Laggan, NSW. died: 16th May 1943 38 Adrian St, Palmyra, WA. Father: Charles BOYD. Mother: Ann H CHALKLEY. Catherine and John had nine children. Mary Jane Mitchell HAIR born: 23rd April 1881 Albury, NSW. Married: James Henry TRAPP 2nd April 1907. Mary and James had four children. Margaret Catherine (Maggie) HAIR born:12th Sept 1882 Ballaratt, VIC. Married: Richard SMITH 17th January 1900 WA. Maggie and Richard had two children. Euphemia (Effie) HAIR born: 4th Aug 1884 Napoleons, VIC. Married: Douglas Harvey MARRIOTT 22nd Nov 1905 Yarloop, WA. born: 8th June 1882 Benger, WA. Effie and Douglas had three children. Christina (Teeny) HAIR born: 21st Sept 1892 Narrandera, NSW. died: 27th Jan 1971 Perth, WA. Married: John Thomas FRY 24th March 1909 WA. Born: 13th June 1882. died: 1st June 1955 WA. Teeny and John had three children. The two brother's of these girls came back to QLD. A daughter of John HAIR and Catherine Ann McDONALD also married and stayed in WA. Margaret Catherine (Maggie) HAIR (1st cousin to the above Maggie) born: 13th January 1891 Junee, NSW. died: 26th March 1966 Perth, WA. Married: George IRELAND 1908 Denmark, WA. Born: 6th Aug 1876 Meredith VIC. Died: 1962 Perth, WA. Father: William IRELAND. Mother: Sarah FRY. Maggie and George had seven children. If there is anyone connected to these families I would love to hear from you. Sincerely, June Pickering. Queensland, AUS. [email protected]/ [email protected]/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

Hi Mari, I know nothing about your WA Baldocks - but I am interested in a possible WA Lehman/Leeman connection - I have a Henry (Harry) Alfred Leeman/Lehmann [etc] who married Leta Victoria Chamberlain .... he died 24/12/1978, Hollywood, WA & she died 19/8/1963, Doubleview, WA - they are both buried at Karrakatta - Anglican ZS-443 - are you interested/connected to this couple? Cheers, Jan McElroy, Currarong, NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Walkers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: [AUS-WA] BALDOCK > Is anyone researching the surname BALDOCK. I am interested in Eleanor Inglis > BALDOCK who died on 15 Feb 1972 aged 96 years and is buried in the Pingelly > Cemetery in the Narrogin Shire, Wheat Belt Region of WA. > > My interest is specifically in her middle name (INGLIS) as this is an > extended family surname and I know that some of the INGLIS family went from > SA to WA. > > With thanks, > > Mari Walker, Adelaide, Sth Australia > Member #6657 SAGHS > Researching: > Sth Aust : Major interests: HART, MAIN, THREDGOLD, TILLER, LEHMANN > Minor interests: JEFFERIES, JOHNSTON, LARKIN, O'TOOLE, HENDER, DOWNING, > MOLLER, MURPHY > Australian interests: > Victoria : LEHMANN descendants, CAMPBELL > WA : MOLLER, HART, LEHMANN descendants > NSW : MAYNARD descendants > New Zealand: HART descendants > USA (California) : MURPHY/KELLEY > England : HART, RUSHER, THREADGOLD > > > > ==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > > Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? > A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Is anyone researching the surname BALDOCK. I am interested in Eleanor Inglis BALDOCK who died on 15 Feb 1972 aged 96 years and is buried in the Pingelly Cemetery in the Narrogin Shire, Wheat Belt Region of WA. My interest is specifically in her middle name (INGLIS) as this is an extended family surname and I know that some of the INGLIS family went from SA to WA. With thanks, Mari Walker, Adelaide, Sth Australia Member #6657 SAGHS Researching: Sth Aust : Major interests: HART, MAIN, THREDGOLD, TILLER, LEHMANN Minor interests: JEFFERIES, JOHNSTON, LARKIN, O'TOOLE, HENDER, DOWNING, MOLLER, MURPHY Australian interests: Victoria : LEHMANN descendants, CAMPBELL WA : MOLLER, HART, LEHMANN descendants NSW : MAYNARD descendants New Zealand: HART descendants USA (California) : MURPHY/KELLEY England : HART, RUSHER, THREADGOLD

Hi genealogists all over Recent emails to Aus-WA-L made me realise that being articulate is not necessarily an indication of knowledge. If you are interested in who owns what in regards to copyright of information, then you may like to do a little research in the subject. To assist you in this, I have found available at www.copyright.org.au (which is the site of the Australian Copyright Council) three relevant downloadable FREE fact sheets in PDF format. In fact these may interest all genealogists and the second one is particularly relevant to the discussion of indexes Family Histories G42 Compilations, tables and forms G66 Research & Study G53. Jenny Brandis Kununurra WA

Hi Everyone, Here's the Can You Help? column from today's "West Australian" ... * There is a photograph with the caption : KELLERBERRIN DEBS : A reunion is planned for these country belles who made their debut in 1955. All the 18 debutantes have been found except for two - Barbara MONTGOMERY (married name FISHER) is pictured second from the right in the back row; and Janet PHILLIPS is seated far left. Where are they now? Contact: Gail Farrell, 9368 2658. This photo can be scanned and forwarded as a PRIVATE attachment to any chatterer who is interstate or overseas and unable to access the West Australian newspaper. Cheers...... Erica mailto:[email protected] (Perth, Western Australia) http://www.perthdps.com/research/hil01.html =========================================================== ----< CONTACT & SUBMISSION DETAILS>---- Can You Help?, published on Mondays, is a free service compiled by Jenny Kohlen for people seeking information about their families and local history or other items of interest. Reunions - other than veterans - are published on Saturdays on the Information pages. Full name and mailing address (for publication) must accompany every request, as well as telephone number and e-mail address. Send your requests to: Can You Help? "The West Australian," GPO Box N1027, Perth 6843. Fax (08) 9482 3830. Phone (08) 9482 3382 (Mon-Fri). mailto:[email protected] CAN YOU HELP ? : Monday, February 10, 2003 (The West Australian, p26) ========================================================== ART GALLERY VOLUNTEERS : The Art Gallery of Western Australia is continually looking for volunteers to assist in providing visitor information and guiding tours of exhibitions. Training is provided. Contact: Adrian Griffiths, tel 9492 6642. mailto:[email protected] BARRETT : Information is sought about the whereabouts of a "Dead Man's Penny" given in memory of Peter Douglas BARRETT, son of Peter and Annie BARRETT, of Collie. He was killed in France in 1916 while serving with the 11th Battalion in World War I. Also interested in hearing from descendants and relatives of this family. Contact: Bernice Holbrook, 10 Bullock Street, Manjimup 6258. Tel: 9771 2889. BASSENDEAN BUILDING : Photographs (to be copied and returned) of the former Bassendean Masonic Lodge in Wilson Street, Bassendean are sought. The hall was also used by the community for dances. A social history of the hall is being written. Contact: Philippa Rogers, PO Box 128, Bassendean 6934. Tel: 9379 1424. mailto:[email protected] CITIZENS ADVICE BUREAU : All previous members and volunteers who worked within the bureau during the past 40 years are sought for the bureau's 40th anniversary to be celebrated on March 19. Please respond with names and addresses as soon as possible to receive an invitation. Contact: Citizens Bureau, 25 Barrack Street, Perth 6000. mailto:[email protected] ««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« COUNTRY CALLING ALBANY : Middleton Beach Bowling Club celebrates its 50th year in 2003. Seeking all past members of the club. Contact: Doris Butler, 9841 1893; or Lynne Danks, 9841 1968. mailto:[email protected] NARROGIN : A 10-year reunion for Narrogin Senior High School leavers of 1993 will be held in Narrogin on Saturday, April 26. Contact: Sharon, 9888 6098. Email: [email protected] »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» FAMILY REUNIONS AGAR : Descendants of Francis Henry and Annie Sarah (Sarah Anne) AGAR, and their children George, Frank, Sarah (Dulcie), Jim Millie, and Jack, are invited to bring photos, information and memorabilia to share at a BYO breakfast-by-the-river beside Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club on March 2 at Barn. Barbecue facilities and shop nearby. RSVP February 21. Contact: Jenny Glassford, 9245 6165, George Agar, 9457 2292, or David Lane, 9245 2857. GENEALOGY WORKSHOP : The Family History Society of Rockingham & Districts will hold a three-day workshop on How to trace your family tree-genealogy and family history for beginners, at Lotteries House, Civic Boulevard, Rockingham over three Saturdays from March 15 to March 29. Cost: $50 members; $60 non-members. Contact: Verna, 9527 4988. GREEN : Information is sought about descendants of Julia Jessie Cate Montgomery CAMPBELL who married Charles GREEN in 1899. They were living in Claremont in 1929. Contact: Norman Roberts, 9446 4983. mailto:[email protected] HAKES : Frank HAKES was sent to WA as an orphan from a children's home by the British Government some time in the 1920s. He later possibly found work on a sheep station and his last contact was with an aunt in England in 1939. Frank was born in Northampton, England, in 1912, son of Bertie and Ada HAKES. Any information would be welcomed by an elderly relative. Contact: Mrs Wendy Boland, 49 The Circuit, Shellharbour, NSW 2529. Tel: (02) 4296 5470. Email:[email protected] JACKSON : Seeking information about sisters Minnie Allen and Florence SHEEDY, daughters of Robert and Sophia JACKSON, of Wagga, NSW. They were two of three orphaned sisters and were sent to WA about 1903-1904 to live with May and Harry ROLFE in Perth. A son of third sister, Lydia, would love to hear news of them. Contact: J. Blythe, 32 Sydenham Road, Doubleview 6018. Tel: 9446 1439. RHODESIA RAILWAYS : An anthology is being prepared to capture the stories and reminiscences of those who served with Rhodesia Railways, particularly employees in the operating grades, either as running staff, or station foremen. Information about the unique system of control, utilising the morse telegraph and paper order system is sought and all contributions will be greatly appreciated. Contact: Sam Wright, 3/54 Williams Street, Kalamunda 6076. Tel: 9293 3506. mailto:[email protected] ROSSI : The writer's grandfather, Alberto Salvatore ROSSI was born in Cogna, Provicia Lucca, Italy, in 1893 and emigrated to WA in 1912. He married Stella May HARMS, and they had two daughters. Hoping to hear from anyone who has researched the family history. Contact: Sherylyn Johnson (nee Shaw), 9477 1726. mailto:[email protected] SMITH : Three World War II medals issued to Private William Smith (WX7019) have come to light : the Australia Service Medal, the Defence Medal and one not named. Hoping to reunite the medals with William or his descendant. Contact: Brian Croker, 9384 8869, or 9384 2475. mailto:[email protected] VETERANS 2/4TH MACHINE GUN BATTALION : Their annual Singapore Service will be held on Monday, February 17, at the PoW Memorial, Saw Avenue, Kings Park, at 11am, followed by a picnic lunch. BYO chairs and refreshments. Members of the public are welcome to attend. Inquiries: Trevor, 9457 8727. 6 RECRUIT COY GUILDFORD 1951-52 : Ex-army veterans from this company are sought for a reunion on April 9. Contact: Jim Churchman, 9276 9250. KOREAN VETERANS : Calling all seamen, privates, airmen, and nurses of the war in Korea who saw service there between 1950 and 1956 from any of the 22 countries that were involved in the conflict. A reunion will be held in Brisbane, Queensland, April 24-25. Wives, husbands, guests and widows of veterans are welcome. Contact: RVKW Office, Queensland State RSL, GPO Box 172, Brisbane 4001. Tel: (07) 3221 0722 (Mon-Fri 7am-11am WST), Digger James, (07) 3832 5041 (a/h), 0405 383 754; or Bob Downey (07) 3268 6375 (a/h). mailto:[email protected] WAAAF/WAAF : The 62nd reunion for Women's Auxiliary Australian Air Force members will be held at the RAAFA Club, Bull Creek on Monday, March 10 at 11.30am. Cost: $25 a person. Carers welcome. Please make cheques/money orders payable to WAAAF branch and send with SAE and any dietary restrictions (you do not need to be a member of the RAAF Association to attend). Contact: Mrs Gwen McCrae, 68 Sivyer House, AFME, Bull Creek 6149 (before February 28). --End--

Wondering if anyone can do a look up for marriage of Ernest Roy Lines born in South Australia but married here in Western Australia. Also any children he may have had. In particular an Albert Roy lines born approx 1822. The name of the mother is Doll but I imagine that would be a nickname. Ernest Roy was born in 1898 in Unley and died in 1978. Ernest Roy Lines live in Western Australia for some time and was in the first world war. I am looking for any information or family connections to this man. His parents were Albert Edward Lines born 1865 and mother Mary Ellen Davey born 1870 - both in South Australia. They came to Western Australia in 1903 and lived in Brown Hill (chasing gold no doubt) They had a farm in Cowcowing which was next door to the O'Neills farm (not connected to me at all). Do any listers know of the Lines family when they lived in the Cowcowing -Nallan area. They apprently walked off the land in 1930 due the deppression. Clarence Baden Lines (born 1900) my father lived in the area and played football. He apparently had a liason and had a child (a son) to someone called Bella or Buela. If the child was alive he would be in his late 70's or early 80's. Clarence Baden then went on to marry in 1932. Any information clues greatfully received Gay O'Neill (nee Lines) Western Australia

Hi Everyone, Here is the Reunions column from today's West Australian. Cheers....... Erica Hills - mailto:[email protected] ________________________________________ The Reunions and Can You Help? columns are published on Mondays and Saturdays as a free service. Send your requests to: Can You Help? "The West Australian," GPO Box N1027, Perth 6843. Fax (08) 9482 3830. Phone (08) 9482 3382 (Mon-Fri). mailto:[email protected] ----< this week's submissions >---- REUNIONS: Saturday, February 8, 2003 (The West Australian Classified Liftout p157) =================================================================== CLAREMONT TEACHERS COLLEGE GRADUATES 1949 : The first meeting of 2003 will be held on Thursday, February 13, at the Anzac Club in St George's Terrace. Contact: Alan on 9446 4526 or Leo on 9445 1127. PALMYRA PRIMARY SCHOOL : A reunion for those who attended the year-group 1941-48 will be held at the Bicton Quarantine Reserve (off Braunton or Phelps Streets, Bicton) on February 16 from 11am. BYO picnic (barbecues available). Students and teachers from other years are most welcome. This is the 90th year of the school's founding. Contact: Shirley Caddy, 9339 1162, Ray Herdman, 9336 2495, Glen Higgs 9339 4576, or Warren Matthews, 0407 535 416. mailto:[email protected] NORTH INNALOO JUNIOR FOOTBALL CLUB : A reunion will be held at the Innaloo Sportsman Club on Sunday, February 16, at 2.30pm, and all parents, players, officials, Life Members, Meritorious and Best Club Person recipients are invited to catch up with old friends. Sausage sizzle provided (drinks available at the bar). Contact: Christine, 9445 1825, or Doug 9446 9530. WA RAILWAY OFFICERS' UNION : Former members are welcome to attend a lunch at Peninusla Tavern, Railway Parade, Maylands, from 1100 Tuesday, February 18. Contact: Laurie Evans, 9622 5039. NEONATAL INTENSIVE CARE NURSING COURSE 1973 (PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS NEONATAL PAEDLATRLC NURSING COURSE) : All past and present participants, instructors, coordinators and lecturers are invited to two 30th anniversary celebrations. The first is an afternoon tea and tour of KEMH Neonatalogy Clinic Care Unit, at Agnes Walsh House Lounge on Thursday, February 20, at 2pm. The second is a Celebration Ball to be held at Rendezvous, Observation City Hotel. Tickets available from KEMH cashier $75 per person. Contact: Renae Owens or Julie Jervis on 9340 2222 page: 3271 or mailto:[email protected] or mailto:[email protected] ST BRIGID'S / DE VIALAR : Sarah SCIACCA would like to hear from any past students who finished Year 12 at St Brigid's in 1980 or anyone who finished Year 10 at De Vialar in 1978, then went on to Mrs JOHNSTON's Business class in 1979. Sarah was a boarder at St Brigid's from Grade 1 in 1969 until midway through 1974 before changing schools to attend De Vialar. She is interested to hear from any of the past students to see what they've been up to. Contact: Sarah Sciacca, CDF Suite, R1-5 Dept Defence, Russell, ACT 2600. mailto:[email protected]

HI All Looking for any connections to the following family. William Samuel Crabbe (b. 20/6/1862 Inverleigh, Vic) married Emily Bosely Halliday (b. 1869 West Guilford, WA) on 4/11/1888. They had the following children:- Mary Crabbe Leonard George Crabbe Richard Crabbe Edith Crabbe Clara Crabbe Charles Crabbe Norman Crabbe John Edward Crabbe Stanley Crabbe Harry Crabbe Ronald Crabbe Cheers Nardia

Hello, I'm a new lister. Does anyone know of a Jim ATKINSON in WA. I believe he was on TV or radio? Last heard of had a childrens' program. Thanks Louise Melbourne

>Source: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [AUS-WA] Have you compiled an index? >"Michael Cheeseman" <[email protected]> wrote: >To me this looks like an advert from a pro researcher trying to gain info >for their Pay for lookup Australian Indexes website or for a planned book Before making comments like that, please have the courtesy to look at the Web page referred to, <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html>, to get your facts straight. >Especially as these messages have appeared over a number of email lists. Other mailing lists have in fact *asked* me to post this invitation more widely than I have ever done in the past. But I guess you can't please all the people all the time. Judy Webster ***************************************************** Central Register of Indexing Projects in Australia, c/- Judy Webster, PO Box 5043, Algester, QLD 4115. Internet: <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html>

G'day Michael I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. I have been sent a family tree recently by a researcher and it lists info that appears to co-incide with my own research. However there was no mention of the source and when I asked where they found the info I was told it had been sent to them by a person who happens to be a distant cousin of mine. The information they had was what I had sent as a courtsey to my cousin (complete with lists of sources too) a few months ago. It had taken me a while to research and at some expense too. How can we stop this kind of thing? One hates to refuse to divulge info to people who are likely to prove to be related with potentially useful info to share. May I have your permission please to quote parts of your email on several of the Mailing Lists I subscribe to. I think it may alert others to the dangers and some -one may come up with some kind of answer too, Best wishes Wendy in Oz > G'Day > > To me this looks like an advert from a pro researcher trying > to gain info for their Pay for lookup Australian Indexes website > or for a planned book they are going to publish and gain financially from. > Especially as these messages have appeared over a number of > email lists. As I understand it this is a breach of Rootsweb's Acceptable > Use Policy for these email lists. > > I for one, am a little tired of pro researchers, historian > bookwriters and newbie cousin researchers using experienced > amateur family historian researchers and their accumulated > research info that has taken years and great deals of money > to compile shared as a courtesy put in someone book who didn't > do the research. Often with little or no acknowledgement of > where they got it from. > > A number of cousins researchers and my own work has been used > in Books by others who did not find the information by themselves > yet it would appear so looking at the book, website etc they > have published. Of course their was no acknowledgement of where > the info came from. This in many cases makes the info useless to > the new researcher that reads it because they cannot find where > the original source records/oral history has come from because > the writer of the book/website was not the person who researched > the info. > > My recommendation to researchers with indexes and/or compiled > research is you publish your own efforts and Sue the pants off > anyone who than uses your research and publishes it as their own > without your consent for exactly that. Sharing info does not mean > you have given permission for them to publish it without your > consent. > > This has been an ongoing problem in family history circles for a > long time and many very experienced researchers no longer share > with others anymore because of the publishing issue having happened > to them. This is a great loss to the majority of family history researchers > from knowledgable researchers but has become common, especially on these > email lists. > > With the American style lawsuit starting to appear in our court > system it wont be long before hopefully this practice of Plagerism > ceases. It is very hard for Pro researchers to be on these > Rootsweb lists without using them for commercial gain. Researchers > take care with your work. If you give it to another person they > may then think it is now theirs and give you nothing in return. > Not even an acknowledgement for your efforts. > > This is my personnel opinion only and I am just suggesting extreme caution > with messages like these and with sharing all your research with others > before you really know whom your sharing with. > > regards > > Michael Cheeseman > Researching my family since 1979. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Webster [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 7:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-WA] Have you compiled an index? > > > Have you compiled an index that would be of use to other family > historians? Or perhaps you are contemplating such a project? You are > urged to register the project (free of charge) with the Central Register of > Indexing Projects in Australia. The Register helps to prevent duplication > of indexing projects, and (if you wish) it can provide free publicity for > your project via an entry in the book "Specialist Indexes in Australia: a > Genealogist's Guide". You must use a special registration form to submit a > brief description of the index and a contact address. Indexes suitable for > registration include those for cemeteries, newspapers, school records, > Government Gazettes, Police Gazettes, local history collections, published > books, records held by archives, and Australia-wide one-name studies. Most > indexes are for Australian sources, but indexes *compiled in Australia* > from *overseas sources* are also eligible (for example, Scottish census > indexes compiled by Australians). > > See <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html> for important information, > guidelines, and a registration form. If you want free publicity via > "Specialist Indexes", the closing date for entries is 31st March 2003. You > MUST submit details on the special form (*not* by replying to this > message), and you MUST supply a postal (snail mail) address. No exceptions! > > For practical advice on the traps involved in compiling and using indexes, > see <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/methods.html>. This has recently been > updated with more examples of things that cause lists of names to sort > incorrectly, and suggestions on how to index names beginning with O'. > > Please do *NOT* reply to this message directly. Refer to > <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html>, which explains how to contact > me. > > Judy Webster > ********************************************************* > Judy Webster, PO Box 5043, Algester, QLD 4115, Australia. > B.App.Sc.(Med.Tech), Grad.Dip. Local & Applied History. > Indexes/advice: <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/index.html> > ********************************************************* > > ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > > Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? > A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks Wendy, this now rules out Jane being my Janet. She has the wrong parents! Thank you for sending the information on to me. Kind regards, Mari ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-WA] ROWE > Hi Mari, > > The death registration for Jane Rowe is as follows: > > 1964 Perth 3274 > > thought I would send this to you in case you want to get the cert. It > says her father was William, and her mother was Mary A. > > Cheers > Wendy > > The Walkers wrote: > > >What is the best way to ascertain more information about a burial in > >Karrakatta? I have the information from the website , and several things > >appear to match with my 'missing' person, but I need more information. > >The person concerned was Jane ROWE who was a resident of Bayswater and died > >on 10 October 1964 aged 93 years. > >Any assistance appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Mari Walker, Adelaide, Sth Australia > >Member #6657 SAGHS > >Researching: > >Sth Aust : Major interests: HART, MAIN, THREDGOLD, TILLER, LEHMANN > >Minor interests: JEFFERIES, JOHNSTON, LARKIN, O'TOOLE, HENDER, DOWNING, > >MOLLER, MURPHY > >Australian interests: > >Victoria : LEHMANN descendants, CAMPBELL > >WA : MOLLER, HART, LEHMANN descendants > >NSW : MAYNARD descendants > >New Zealand: HART descendants > >USA (California) : MURPHY/KELLEY > >England : HART, RUSHER, THREADGOLD > >and Brian Walker > >Researching: > >England: WALKER, HEARD, WATSON, PAGE > > > > > >==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > > > >Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? > >A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > visit: www.justgen.com for best Genealogy Chat, Links & Support !! > > See Wendy's Family Tree at: www.geocities.com/wanderer57au > > > > > ==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > > Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? > A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

No Worries Wendy Your welcome to forward my comments and thank you for having the courtesy to ask first. regards Michael Cheeseman -----Original Message----- From: wendy boland [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2003 4:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-WA] Have you compiled an index? G'day Michael I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. I have been sent a family tree recently by a researcher and it lists info that appears to co-incide with my own research. However there was no mention of the source and when I asked where they found the info I was told it had been sent to them by a person who happens to be a distant cousin of mine. The information they had was what I had sent as a courtsey to my cousin (complete with lists of sources too) a few months ago. It had taken me a while to research and at some expense too. How can we stop this kind of thing? One hates to refuse to divulge info to people who are likely to prove to be related with potentially useful info to share. May I have your permission please to quote parts of your email on several of the Mailing Lists I subscribe to. I think it may alert others to the dangers and some -one may come up with some kind of answer too, Best wishes Wendy in Oz > G'Day > > To me this looks like an advert from a pro researcher trying > to gain info for their Pay for lookup Australian Indexes website > or for a planned book they are going to publish and gain financially from. > Especially as these messages have appeared over a number of > email lists. As I understand it this is a breach of Rootsweb's Acceptable > Use Policy for these email lists. > > I for one, am a little tired of pro researchers, historian > bookwriters and newbie cousin researchers using experienced > amateur family historian researchers and their accumulated > research info that has taken years and great deals of money > to compile shared as a courtesy put in someone book who didn't > do the research. Often with little or no acknowledgement of > where they got it from. > > A number of cousins researchers and my own work has been used > in Books by others who did not find the information by themselves > yet it would appear so looking at the book, website etc they > have published. Of course their was no acknowledgement of where > the info came from. This in many cases makes the info useless to > the new researcher that reads it because they cannot find where > the original source records/oral history has come from because > the writer of the book/website was not the person who researched > the info. > > My recommendation to researchers with indexes and/or compiled > research is you publish your own efforts and Sue the pants off > anyone who than uses your research and publishes it as their own > without your consent for exactly that. Sharing info does not mean > you have given permission for them to publish it without your > consent. > > This has been an ongoing problem in family history circles for a > long time and many very experienced researchers no longer share > with others anymore because of the publishing issue having happened > to them. This is a great loss to the majority of family history researchers > from knowledgable researchers but has become common, especially on these > email lists. > > With the American style lawsuit starting to appear in our court > system it wont be long before hopefully this practice of Plagerism > ceases. It is very hard for Pro researchers to be on these > Rootsweb lists without using them for commercial gain. Researchers > take care with your work. If you give it to another person they > may then think it is now theirs and give you nothing in return. > Not even an acknowledgement for your efforts. > > This is my personnel opinion only and I am just suggesting extreme caution > with messages like these and with sharing all your research with others > before you really know whom your sharing with. > > regards > > Michael Cheeseman > Researching my family since 1979. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Webster [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 7:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AUS-WA] Have you compiled an index? > > > Have you compiled an index that would be of use to other family > historians? Or perhaps you are contemplating such a project? You are > urged to register the project (free of charge) with the Central Register of > Indexing Projects in Australia. The Register helps to prevent duplication > of indexing projects, and (if you wish) it can provide free publicity for > your project via an entry in the book "Specialist Indexes in Australia: a > Genealogist's Guide". You must use a special registration form to submit a > brief description of the index and a contact address. Indexes suitable for > registration include those for cemeteries, newspapers, school records, > Government Gazettes, Police Gazettes, local history collections, published > books, records held by archives, and Australia-wide one-name studies. Most > indexes are for Australian sources, but indexes *compiled in Australia* > from *overseas sources* are also eligible (for example, Scottish census > indexes compiled by Australians). > > See <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html> for important information, > guidelines, and a registration form. If you want free publicity via > "Specialist Indexes", the closing date for entries is 31st March 2003. You > MUST submit details on the special form (*not* by replying to this > message), and you MUST supply a postal (snail mail) address. No exceptions! > > For practical advice on the traps involved in compiling and using indexes, > see <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/methods.html>. This has recently been > updated with more examples of things that cause lists of names to sort > incorrectly, and suggestions on how to index names beginning with O'. > > Please do *NOT* reply to this message directly. Refer to > <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/register.html>, which explains how to contact > me. > > Judy Webster > ********************************************************* > Judy Webster, PO Box 5043, Algester, QLD 4115, Australia. > B.App.Sc.(Med.Tech), Grad.Dip. Local & Applied History. > Indexes/advice: <www.judywebster.gil.com.au/index.html> > ********************************************************* > > ______________________________ > > > ==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== > > Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? > A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== AUS-WA Mailing List ==== Q: Why do WA's cyber-genies hang out at the Perth DPS & use DPS-CHAT-L ? A: Check out: ' http://www.perthdps.com/dps-chat.htm ' ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237