I will be in the Warrnambool area in middle January 04 and would like to meet up within anyone on the Macfarlane/Bostock clan side on things. Please advise your contact details so we can arrange a meeting etc. Bob Macfarlane

Dear Beryl, A Happy New year to you and all the listers. I will get back to diaries again very soon. May I take the liberty and speak about this book. After reading about people searching for special books, I thought I would note that I had a large sketchbook on the "Homesteads of Victoria 1836-1900" by Maurice Cantlon, which I don't need anymore. It is hardback, 34 cm X 25 cm and has sketches of 50 of the prominent/historic homesteads including text for each property. Feel free to ask if your link to family is included and I could write it up. If anyone should like to know about it, they could email me privately. For now Sincerely in Searching.. Thelma Birrell in Maroochydore. Bostock/Wilkinson/Rafferty/Rhodes - http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm Stokes/Yates/Wilson/Hearsfield www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell/ Cox/Dorset/Clarendon/N.S.W. www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ James Cox/Connell Clarendon/Tasm. http://matthewbirrell.tripod.com/index.htm Birrell/Robertson/Kirk/Overton/Anderson/Stobie/Reith www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html Scots/Irish/Delahunty/Mulholland/Fletcher/Maltman http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html Crawford/McKay/Sarkies/Rafferty/Robe/Landsborough www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/crawfor2.html Montgomery/Skeats/Redman/McGregor/Barber/Jeram www.users.bigpond.com/mrbirrell/ If you have an interest in the early squatting history of the West Wimmera then this small book, containing and extraordinary amount of detail (names, dates, prices, etc) from station records is a very useful reference from this area. It is the story of the .... HAMILTON / GIBSON / COWELL family of Long Hills (Bellvue), Kilmore

Hi Listers If you have an interest in the early squatting history of the West Wimmera then this small book, containing and extraordinary amount of detail (names, dates, prices, etc) from station records is a very useful reference from this area. It is the story of the .... HAMILTON / GIBSON / COWELL family of Long Hills (Bellvue), Kilmore Bringalbert, Ozenkadnook & Brippick stations of Edenhope, West Wimmera. This book adds to the well known book "Pioneering days in Western Victoria: by James Charles HAMILTON (1836-1927) who was the grandfather of the husband of the Author. Extract of "Pioneering days...." is on the web at" http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/digby/1848ham.htm Details: "A Squatting Saga", by Terese Hamilton Published 1991, Arden Press, Dromas, Vic, Aus ISBN 0-646-05364-7 A5 size, 130 pages, Available through on-line out-of-print stores, there were a number of copies for sale when I last checked a couple of months ago. A few on learn book searching sites are: http://www.abebooks.com/ http://www.biblioz.com/ http://www.bookfinder.com/ Regards Daryl Povey

This book sounds wonderful and one I will definitely need to get! Can I just ask if the surname HUTCHINS crops up often? Cheers, Andrea. Australian Milk Producers Association http://www.geocities.com/ampa_ltd/ Welcome to "Balcowa"! http://www.geocities.com/balcs9/index.htm

Hi Listers I have just acquired a copy of the book on the history of Coleraine in south-west Victoria. Details "The Fields of Coleraine", by Frank Gardiner 869 Riversdale Rd, Camberwell, Vic 3124, Australia ph: 03-9836 7828 Published 2003 ISBN 0-646-42581-1 Hard Cover, glossy paper, A4 size, 335 pages, plenty of historical information, photographs and lists of names (eg parliamentarians, War Memorial names, Councillors, Police, Clergy, Origins of street names, floods, fires & droughts, shearing terms, farming terms, etc.) Includes an event timeline for Coleraine district from 1837-2002/3 Colour photographs of some of the significant homesteads in the area "Tulse Hill", "Muntham", "Murndal", "Winninburn", "Melville Forest", "Konongwootong Creek", "Mt Koroite", "Nareen", "Tooland", "The Wilderness", "Wando Dale", "Gringegalgona", Copies are available direct from Frank Gardiner at the above address. or from the Royal Historical Society of Victoria web site, via their publications link at http://www.historyvictoria.org.au/home.htm $40:00 + $9:00 postage Regards Daryl Povey

Hi All It's that time of year again when many people on these quiet, well-behaved Lists have some extra time on their hands. If you would like to tell us about your research interests or a particularly exciting success story, recommend an excellent research book or family history, tell us a wonderful story from your family tree or offer a look-up from a resource you have at your disposal, GO FOR IT. Please use a heading that indicates what your message is about so that those who are still busy can pass the rest of us by. I've just started reading a book about a 16th century female Irish pirate, so am looking forward to getting into that. Cheers Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia List Admin on holidays

Hi Daryl and All Thanks for that Daryl. It must have given you quite a headache sorting that one out. That's a very interesting piece of social history for the 1840s. What was the policy in Germany about divorce at that time? It must have been a fairly amicable agreement if they then all emigrated together. Have you managed to find out any details? No doubt I would not be the only one interested in the background story. Cheers and greetings to all. Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Povey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] Re: NOSKE / NUSKE family....... > Hi Beryl & Others > > This couple are my 3 x gt grandparents. > > It is believed that Anna Rosina NUSKE did not die in Prussia but married > Samuel NUSKE and they emigrated on the same boat 'Heloise" in 1847 as her

Merry Christmas to All, West Wimmera Mail will be back after Christmas. Cheers and best wishes for a safe New Year. Daryl Crabtree

Hi Beryl & Others This couple are my 3 x gt grandparents. It is believed that Anna Rosina NUSKE did not die in Prussia but married Samuel NUSKE and they emigrated on the same boat 'Heloise" in 1847 as her first husband Christian MENZEL and his seconf wife Maria Dorothea RICHTER along with the 5 chn from his first marriage and five chn from his second marriage. Anna Rosina NUSKE died at Lobethal, SA in 1887. Gottlieb BLESING, his wife (also 3 x gt grandparents) and 3 chn also emigrated on the "Skjold" in 1841, but only Gottlied and one daughter (my gt gt garndmother Johanne who married Wilhelm MENZEL) survived the disease on this voyage. Merry Christmas Daryl Povey At 01:00 PM 23-12-03 -0700, you wrote: >From: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] NOSKE family....... > >I have Anna Rosina NUSKE who married Christian MENZEL. But I have noted that >she died before the family emigrated and Christian remarried. I don't have >the name of his second wife however, only details of his son Johann who had >12 children. (From Menzel family history - Hausler et al) I borrowed the >book from the Kew Library. >There is a link between the MENZEL and McSWAIN families in my tree. Did Anna >Rosina belong in this family? > >Cheers >Beryl

*** CROSSPOSTED - APOLOGIES IF YOU RECEIVE MULTIPLE MESSAGES *** May I take this opportunity to wish all list members a very merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year. Thank you for the kind words, suggestions, updates, corrections, etc. that you have sent my way throughout 2003. I should have Lismore and Freshwater Creek included in the indexes as my first additions for 2004 - early in the New Year. -- Regards, Unless stated to the contrary at the beginning of the text, this message may be considered to be in the public domain and may be copied, distributed, forwarded, etc. without infringing upon any copyright to which I may normally be entitled. Ian Marr A.I.G.S 11528 10.5m above sea-level at 38°23'15"S by 142°36'04"E I read "The Idiot's Guide to Life" but didn't understand it! Eddress: [email protected] Home Page: http://members.datafast.net.au/marrtronics/ Extensive S.W. Victorian Cemetery Indexes on above site. List Administrator: DIVENS, FRUISH, ROOF, WINFIELD on Rootsweb.com

Hi List, I am trying to trace family of a Joseph Terrence O'Farrell who died in Horsham in 1969. I have very little to go on apart from his death location. This man had the same names as his father, but I am uncertain as to whether any family still in the Western District. He predeceased his father who died in Heidelberg, Melb. in 1974. Are transcripts available for Horsham Cemetery to glean further information on this man. Any assistance welcome. T.I.A. Doug. _________________________________________________________________ Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp

I have Anna Rosina NUSKE who married Christian MENZEL. But I have noted that she died before the family emigrated and Christian remarried. I don't have the name of his second wife however, only details of his son Johann who had 12 children. (From Menzel family history - Hausler et al) I borrowed the book from the Kew Library. There is a link between the MENZEL and McSWAIN families in my tree. Did Anna Rosina belong in this family? Cheers Beryl List Admin Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabre, Leone C" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] NOSKE family....... > Some early info for those interested in the NOSKE family...... > > Traugott NOSKE [1834 - 1923] > > married: > > Johanne Auguste LEHMANN [1834 - 1918]

Some early info for those interested in the NOSKE family...... Traugott NOSKE [1834 - 1923] married: Johanne Auguste LEHMANN [1834 - 1918] Traugott NOSKE was a descendent of German farming people who settled in Austria. The family later moved to the Neutomyl district of Poland, where Traugott was born. His parents were Gottfried NOSKE and Christina SCHALLERT. Traugott emigrated to Australia as a single man and settled at Lyndoch, SA. He left there in the 1850's for Hochkirch (now Tarrington) about 5 klm south east of Hamilton in the Western District of Victoria, where he engaged in farming. Johanne LEHMANN was also a child of farming parents, who lived in Silesia (Schlesien), a province of Russia. At six years of age she emigrated to Australia with her family, leaving the port of Hamburg, Germany, on 11 July 1841 on the "Skjold", a sailing vessel of 400 tons register. They emigrated from Sawade, in the Grunberg district of Silesia, together with Pastor G.D.FRITZSCHE ( a Lutheran Pastor ) and members of his congregation. The "Skjold" arrived at Port Adelaide, SA, on 27 Oct 1841. Due to an infection which spread amongst the passengers about 50 of the 274 died during the voyage. On arrival some of the immigrants settled at Lobethal and some at Hahndorf in the Adelaide Hills area, while others went to Bethany in the Barossa Valley of SA. Later, probably still in the early 1850's, the LEHMANN family moved to the Hamilton District in Victoria. Traugott and Auguste (as she was known) were married on 5 October 1855 at the Lutheran Church, Ballarat Road, near Hamilton, and spent all their married life ( 62 years and 7 mths) in Victoria. Theirs was the first marriage solemnized by Pastor C. W. SCHURMANN, who had arrived in Australia in 1853. ******************************************************************************** Can continue if there is anyone on the list wanting (or needing !!) extra information. cheers, Leone *********************************************************************************

URL's 21st December 2003 If you would like to know how to get the previous 4000 URL's http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees/starters/cd.html Thanks to Sandie for contributing 1847 Directory for the Town & District of Port Phillip http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dotwells/1847K.htm Ancestry of Future British Kings http://www.familyforest.com/British_Kings.html Assisted British Immigration to Victoria 1839-1871 http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24 Aus-NSW-West Mailing List http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/ Australian c19th censuses http://www.users.on.net/proformat/census.html Australian Mining History Association http://www.ex.ac.uk/mhn/AMHA.html Australian Places http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/ncas/multimedia/gazetteer/alpha.html#a Australian Electoral Commission http://tinyurl.com/2yklk Decisions of the Nineteenth Century Tasmanian Superior Courts http://www.law.mq.edu.au/sctas/index.htm Family Tree Searcher http://www.familytreesearcher.com Gallipoli Graveyards http://www.anzacs.net/GRAVES/Cemeteries/GravesIndex_HtoM.htm Genealogy Articles, Tips & Research Guides http://www.genealogybranches.com/ Genealogy Search Advice http://www.familytreesearcher.com Great Long Convict Trail http://www.convicttrail.org/ Hawkesbury on the Net http://www.hawkesbury.net.au/cemetery/index.html Index of Ship's Captains from "Log of Logs" http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/mariner9.htm Langley Centennial Museum http://www.langleymuseum.org/heritage_cemetery_intro.asp Legacy - Free Family History Program http://tinyurl.com/yw41 List of Missing Persons - 1901 in Straits Times Singapore http://www.geocities.com/tfoenander/missinglist1901.htm Northamptonshire http://www.northants1841.fsnet.co.uk Old Lambourne http://mysite.freeserve.com/oldlambourne/index.html Our Kindred http://www.genealogies.com.au/portal/ Samford Hundred in Suffolk http://kevw.net/Samford-hundred.htm Scotland - Clackmannanshire http://www.CyndisList.com/sct-clk.htm Starting Genealogy CD http://tinyurl.com/yw42 TreeDraw http://www.btinternet.com/~spansoft/trdrw_rt.htm Ware Church Cemetery http://members.cox.net/leebr/ware/ Wedding Venues - Churches http://www.weddingwa.com/churches/church001.htm Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia [email protected] Tall Trees Family History http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html Legacy Family Tree is now FREE. Download from http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=27495Ji ================================================== Life is lived forwards, but understood backwards.

Hi Leonie I have some NOSKE / NUSKE research from the Barossa Valley and Victoria and the NOSKE / NUSKE book "Oppression to Opportunity: NOSKE - NUSKE Families in Australia 1847-1997" was published in 1997 but it does not have the descendants of John August NOSKE and Bertha Augusta JASPER listed. Regards Daryl Povey Ballarat, Australia At 01:49 PM 20-12-03 -0700, you wrote: >Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 07:34:04 +1100 >From: Leonie Oliver <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [AUS-GERMAN] NOSKE family-Murtoa, Vic > >Hi >Is anyone researching this family in Murtoa, Victoria? I am interested in >the descendants of Mathilda NOSKE and Herbert BROOKS. Mathild was the >daughter of John August NOSKE and Bertha Augusta JASPER. >Mathilda was born in 1900, married in 1922, and died in 1976. >Thanks >Leonie

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 13 December 2003 1:00 Subject: AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-D Digest V03 #260

Hello One & All (Apologies for the cross postings) Just a reminder that the Early Bird Rates for the 5th Victorian Family History State Conference "Settlers in the Sun" close on December 31st 2003. Although the Conference is held in Victoria it is not only just for those with Victorian interests. A broad range of topics encompassing everything from how to trace your ancestry, getting organised, using internet resources, WWI & WWII records, convict records, immigration records and schemes, local history records, and much more, will be covered by speakers from ACT, NSW, SA, TAS, VIC and NZ. Further information and Registration Forms for the Conference to be held in Mildura on 16th - 18th April 2004, can be found on our website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmdgs/2004.html or by contacting: 2004 Conference Organizing Committee P.O. Box 3467 Mildura 3502, VIC E-mail: [email protected] Kind Regards Roz Voullaire [email protected] Secretary 2004 Conference Organizing Committee

URL's 12 December, 2003 If you would like to know how to get the previous 4000 URL's http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees/starters/cd.html Thanks to Sandie for contributing Ben Hall http://scs.une.edu.au/Bushrangers/bhall.htm Bethania Queensland Pioneer List http://home.wanadoo.nl/wouter.busnach/ Centremaps http://www.centremaps.com Church & Reformation http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/state/church_reformation/ Cyclopaedia of Western Australia Vol. 1 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chrisu/battye1.htm#A Devon http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/DEV/ Devon Family History Society http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ Durham Records Online http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/index.php Essex Archives Online http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp Essex Police Museum http://www.essex.police.uk/pages/offbeat/o_bt_mus.htm GenoPro http://www.genopro.com/free/ Glastonbury St. Benedict Marriages 1850-1859 http://genealogy.colinrayner.org.uk History of Egypt http://burns.dcb.du.edu/history.asp?id=85 India Office Records http://www.bl.uk/collections/orientaloffice.html International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Legacy - Free Family History Program http://tinyurl.com/yw41 Mariners & Ships in Australian Waters http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/ MyRelative.com http://www.myrelative.com/#relation New South Wales Probate Packages http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/aibs/084/page01.htm Photographs of Soldiers of the Indian Army 1840-1920 http://www.members.dca.net/fbl/phtoinda.html Police Index http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/POLNOTES.htm Pub History Society http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/ Romford Recorder http://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/defaultromford.asp Royal Highland Fusiliers http://www.rhf.org.uk/Regimental%20History/1850-1914.htm Scotland - Caithness http://www.CyndisList.com/sct-cai.htm Starting Genealogy CD http://tinyurl.com/yw42 Victorian Census Project 1831 http://tinyurl.com/yw4g Walthamstow http://www.hmsweb.co.uk/html/home.html World Ward 2 Index http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/WWIINOTES.htm Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia [email protected] Tall Trees Family History http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html Legacy Family Tree is now FREE. Download from http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=27495Ji ================================================== It's hard to believe that someday I'll be an ancestor

Some listers may be interested in the locations of shops, houses and businesses in the Commercial sector of the Casterton Main Street (Henty St) in 1882. I have added a named plan of 3 blocks of Henty Street on the Casterton Historical Society web site at: http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/henty_street_1882.htm I would be interested in any feed-back on links with any of these names. Regards Daryl Povey

Thanks to Trevor Smith for permission to pass this on. Beryl List Admin > At Kiama Family History Centre we have Electoral Rolls on Microfiche for NSW for 1903, 1913, 1928, 1947 (for some other states as well ) 1991 and 1998 in alphabetical order for the whole of Australia. There is also an index telling you which electorate places are located. > > The centre is normally open 7 days a week ( Closed public holidays and will be closed 24/12 reopening 2/1 as the library will be "remodelled" by volunteers . > > We usually have at least 3 volunteers on any one day but the number of people coming seems to have dropped off over the last 9 mths. I think peopl think they can find everything on the internet. > We have almost 5000 items on our catalogue of resources. This includes everything from cemetery records to shipping reels to pioneer registers, St Catherines index, convict indents. etc. We have been purchasing approx $2000 worth every 3 months. The main source of income is from the sale of material we have indexed. We have some microfilm reels of early Tasmania which have been indexed by volunteers and put on CDs by Macbeth. We then do look ups from the reels if a person has found somebody on the index ( for a small fee). Currently we have volunteers indexing the shipping reels from 1901 to 1926 - but a long job. > > Remember - NOT ALL is available on the internet. > > Trevor in Albion Park NSW - a Volunteer at Kiama Family History Centre - 02 42 331122 Trevor also adds: That is fine. I am happy to do an odd look up providing that it is very specific - providing there are no customers when I am there - usually manage to do it. I hope to put a better list of information particularly around what we have for sale. The centre has a full time director, partially paid for by the local council and offset by research fees. Should someone need a quote to do research, they can contact Ray Thorburn at 02 42 331122 or [email protected] Cheers