Mary Jane ROBERTS was born on this day (Jan 9) at Burnt Creek, Victoria in 1881. Her parents were: Owen ROBERTS + Mary Jane LISTON. She married John Colin William McTAVISH at Lah Arum, Victoria in 1910. They had 5 children all born in Horsham 1910 - 1921 : Dorothy m.ROBERTSON Irene m.LAUNDER Colin m.DEVLIN Arthur m.SMITH Marion m.BRYCE Mary Jane McTAVISH (nee ROBERTS) died at the Lutheran Rest Home in Horsham, Victoria on 19 Jan 1975. If anyone has an interest in the above family, I have quite a bit of information that I am happy to pass on. cheers, Leone Leone + John FABRE postal address: PO Box # 2061 PARKVILLE V 3050

The BARKER in the following notice would have been Sarah Jane BOOTH, wife of Richard BARKER of Natimuk as indicated in the following death entry: Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 Surname: BARKER Given Names: Sarah Jane Event: D Father: Booth Royston Furniss Mother: Eliza HANSON Age: 69 Death Place: Natimuk Year: 1918 Reg. Number: 2668 Regards Daryl Povey >March 21, 1919 >In Memoriam >BARKER-- In sad and loving memory of my dear wife and our dear mother who >passed away on 24th March 1918. >You are not forgotten dear mother, >Nor wilt thou ever be; >For as long as life and memory lasts, >We will remember thee. >Inserted by her loving husband, son and daughters. > >Daryl Crabtree >Gladstone >Qld >www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

March 21, 1919 In Memoriam BARKER-- In sad and loving memory of my dear wife and our dear mother who passed away on 24th March 1918. You are not forgotten dear mother, Nor wilt thou ever be; For as long as life and memory lasts, We will remember thee. Inserted by her loving husband, son and daughters. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

March 21, 1919 Australian Labour Party The Natimuk branch of the above has decided to hold a social on Monday 31st March next. Roll up ladies and gents and assist a good cause. A meeting will be held on Saturday evening 29th inst. at 8 p.m. sharp. V. RAPP, President J. BOURKE, Secretary. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

March 21, 1919 Mr McGINTY and Miss GASH, while returning to Ullswater after attending a welcome home to soldiers at Edenhope on Friday night last, had the misfortune to be thrown out of the gig through the vehicle coming into contact with road material. Fortunately no serious damage was done. The horse being quite, only went a short distance and stopped. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

I believe the Gapes and Porters are connected. If it is of interest to you let me know and I would be happy to send you a copy.. My surname interests are - Porter, Cowell, Lumsden, Crosby, Gillick > > Martha BARKER born this day (Jan 6) in 1805 in Essex, England. > > died 31 October 1886 aged 81 at Koroit, Victoria. > > married to James GAPES (d.1893) ____________________________________________________________ Hi there Joan.... I do have a PORTER / GAPES connection......but like I mentioned, more like a twig on my tree rather than a full on branch!! Here is the info: Jane GAPES (dgtr of James GAPES + Martha BARKER) b.1843 at Wendon, Essex in England. d. 28 September 1921 at Koroit, Victoria. [buried at Tower Hill Cemetery] Jane married on December 22 1863 at Koroit, Victoria to: Henry PORTER (son of Job PORTER + Ann COWELL) b.1836 Wendon, Essex in England. d.11 August 1919 at Koroit, Victoria. was a farmer and is also buried at Tower Hill Cemetery. Jane and Henry had 10 children: John PORTER b.1865 m.Annie BONNELL William PORTER b.1866 Martha PORTER b.1869 m.Henry STEPHENS Eliza PORTER b.1870 Ann PORTER b.1873 m.Sam MILLS Mary PORTER b.1874 m.Robert PATON Edith Jane PORTER b.1877 m.John JOHNSTON James Henry PORTER b.1879 Lucy May PORTER b.1882 m.George Ringold ARTSOW Joseph Stanley PORTER b.1886 Have extra info on above children if req'd. * * * * * * * * for cemeteries and other info, see Ian Marr's website at: http://members.datafast.net.au/marrtronics/CEMINDEX.HTML cheers, Leone . .

Would Andrea Harman who visited Kilgarvan,Ireland in 2000,please contact me. Ian Black

Martha BARKER born this day (Jan 6) in 1805 in Essex, England. died 31 October 1886 aged 81 at Koroit, Victoria. married to James GAPES (d.1893) If anyone has an interest in this family.....do let me know. The GAPES family are but a small twig on my tree, but am happy to pass on what I have! cheers, Leone Leone + John FABRE postal address: PO Box # 2061 PARKVILLE V 3050

Forwarded for Allan. Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "allan" <[email protected]> To: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] What cheeses me off and Vic CDs > Sorry, Beryl. I did intend to respond to your first "challenge", but only > wrote this after receiving your latest e-mail. Better late than never? > > Boxing Day (the date) was what enabled me to solve a mystery. Try as I did, > I had not been able to find any birth record for my mother's mother - my > grandmother - Mary Neale (nee McLean). Mary had lived with my parents for > many years until she died in 1972 at age 92. I therefore new well that her > date of birth was December 26, 1879. > > My wife likes shopping so - with time on my hands - I spent hours in > Melbourne's Public Library scanning the microfiche cards for that date. The > result is the following story. > > Mary was born Louisa O'Flaherty. On Dec. 26, 1879, Catherine O'Flaherty > gave birth in Natimuk, Victoria, to a girl called Louisa. A father's name > was not recorded. Then, on May 9, 1881, Catherine again gave birth to a girl > in Natimuk, this time called Mary Ann. Unfortunately, Mary Ann died the same > day due to being premature. On Mary Ann's birth record (but not on her death > record) a father's name was shown: That of Hugh McLean. This birth record > was amended in August 1881 when a note was added stating that the father's > name had been recorded "in error". [As an aside, just think what future > genealogists will miss out on when the day comes that all records will be > entered into a computer. A future Hugh McLean's name could simply be deleted > from the record and nobody would ever know it had been there!] Then, on > November 19, 1881, Hugh McLean married Catherine O'Flaherty. > > Thus, Louisa was 17 months old when Mary Ann was born and just shy of two > years old when her mother married Hugh McLean. I wonder if Louisa was ever > aware of this situation. Hugh McLean's mother was Mary (nee McLeod), so it > would seem plausible that he did have a part to play in the birth of Mary > Ann (Catherine's mother was Ann Kelly). > > At what time did Louisa start being called Mary and why? I'd dearly like to > know the answer to that question, but I suspect that I never will. > > Now, if only I could find the birth record for my father's father, William > Jamieson, born - I believe - at Clarke Hill in 1857. I never met William > and don't have a definite date to help me this time! > > Allan Jamieson > Burnie, Tasmania > > > >

Hi All, I have also been lurking in the background like Helen and reading each and all the emails just in case one comes up that I may be connected to. My husband's ancestors that left S.A. in abt 1890's for Vic are the two sons of William and Emma HOLDING, Samuel and his wife Eliza Rose nee Warner and children, there were more born over in Vic. John Holding and his wife Ismelda nee Warner ( a sister to Eliza Rose Warner) and their children and more also born over there. The main one of John's is Matilda b 1876 S.A. married in late 1890's to David Henry ELLIOTT some of their children I am really stuck with the Holding's resided in the Swan Hill district. GLATZ also my husband's on his late mother's side quite a few of them went over to Dimboola district to reside maybe in the late 1890's. I can give more Glatz female married names if there may be a connection? GIBSON my maternal side of the tree children of Samuel GIBSON b abt 1801 Norfolk England and Hannah nee Sharpe went to live in the Campbell's Creek, Castlemaine Vic district from abt 1855. Hannah died over there, I think she must have went over to Vic after Samuel died to be near her children. Thanks a lot in advance if there is a lister that may be able to help me with any of the research above. regards, Judy of S.A.

More Family Interests.............. I would love to learn something about HENRY JAMES BROWN - Born 1843 in Norfolk England and Died late 1880s [ around 1886 ] ? ? where he was buried. Henry James Brown was the son of WILLIAM BROWN & ELIZABETH SAUNDERS. Henry married FANNY LOUISA BIDEMADE in 1871 @ Belfast Vict. Fanny was the daughter of HENRY BIDEMADE & JANE CONDY - and was born 1852 in Battersea London. Henry and Fanny had 8 children before Henry's death. Fanny remarried - 2nd husband was GEORGE ARTHUR SPARROW. The seventh born child to Fanny & Henry was EMMA LETITIA BROWN who married ARTHUR HUGGINS [ my Grandparents ]. Arthur was son of FREDERICK BUTTON HUGGINS & his wife FRANCES MARY TROWELL. Any other researchers looking at these families ? Would love to make contact. Cheers Gloria .............. from South Aust.

Among my family interests is the VAUGHAN Family My Great Great Grandmother was MARY VAUGHAN - born @ Belfast Victoria 1846 and married JOSHUA DICKESON in 1864 - ? where - and died and buried @ Laen North, Victoria. Mary was the daughter of GEORGE VAUGHAN and MARTHA BOWEN. Joshua was the son of JOSHUA DICKESON and SUSANNAH JONES. Cheers from Gloria ............ from South Aust.

I'm happy to look up Victorian B,D & Ms and also inquests. Dianne Hughes

Hi Listers I am swapping hats from that of history hobby to that of Physics Teacher. Some of you may be interested in catching up on the new NASA Rover Mission that has successfully landed on Mars. The first images have been sent back by the rover and the web site to keep up-to-date with the developments on Mars can be found at: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.html You will get much more information on this dynamic web site than from the occasional TV News report. You may find that some of your children are interested in this one. We cannot let the school holidays go to waste just on computer games. Cheers Daryl Povey

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Beasley" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] What cheeses me off and Vic CDs > are you crazy Beryl ? actually inviting 200 people with for the most part > English heritage to have a moan and groan session.Well if I must, what > cheeses me off, and I could be jumping the gun and invite any further > information,is the "wisdom" of a multi Kilo dollar upgrade of the state > library genealogy centre only to find when you want to rummage through your > favourite microfilm you end up getting the reader that makes some strange > clicking noise with the other 2 people along side of you looking at you like > you're from another planet as if you're doing it on purpose just to > interrupt their train of thought.You spend most of you're time adjusting and > cursing and apologising and most of the time giving up in despair.I'm sure > it's only a temporary situation and to be honest I haven't been in there for > a couple of months but PLEASE SLV fix the readers that's my little gripe > have a good year everybody Chris Beasley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:47 PM > Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] What cheeses me off and Vic CDs > > > > OK Folks > > > > I can't stir the 200 of you up to tell about your research interests or > your favourite books or any other Western District history snippets, so how > about "What cheeses me off!" > > > > Keep it related to genealogy and mailing lists. > > (And this one is banned: Listowners who continually nag their Listers to > put up messages.) > > > > What cheeses me off is when I've been asking questions on Lists for years > and occasionally get a reply, and then someone else asks a question and gets > 25 replies in the one day! > > > > I'm also willing to do lookups of individual names in the Vic CDs over the > next couple of weeks. Those who can offer the same or similar service might > also like to volunteer and we can share the load. Don't ask for bulk > downloads of a surname please as that breaches Copyright. No more than 3 > names at a time and email me or other volunteers privately. > > > > Cheers > > Beryl > > > > Beryl O'Gorman > > Greensborough Victoria Australia > > List Admin > > > > ______________________________ > > >

Hi Helen Great that you took the plunge! Well done. Are your ABSALOM, FORBES and ROBERTSON names Mortlake? If so I'm not connected, but knew families of these names well as I grew up there. And one of my in-laws in the HOLMES family is connected to the ROBERTSONs and the STUCHBERYs. Any Mortlake books? Cheers Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Lang" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] Western District Interests > Hello All, > > Been reading this list for a while, but haven't been confident enough to > write, so here goes. > > Interests are centered around > > Lismore, Camperdown Mortlake, Dundonnell, Cobden, Mt. Fyans, Smythesdale, > Colac, Geelong, Ballarat > > Have many books re areas mentioned if anyone would like lookups or scans, > some very old ones from my families' collection, I suspect now out of print.

Hello All, Been reading this list for a while, but haven't been confident enough to write, so here goes. Interests are centered around Lismore, Camperdown Mortlake, Dundonnell, Cobden, Mt. Fyans, Smythesdale, Colac, Geelong, Ballarat Have many books re areas mentioned if anyone would like lookups or scans, some very old ones from my families' collection, I suspect now out of print. Names I research: Absalom - Ship "Larpent" -from Berkshire Eng., Bennett- Convict Ship 'Argyle' -From? Essex Brown - Ship 'Priam' -from Braishfield Hampshire Eng., Butters - Convict Ship 'Sarah'-From Ashill, Norfolk Eng., Forbes - Ship 'John Davies'- from Inverness, Scot., Howard - Convict Ship Waterloo' - from Norfolk Eng., Kemp - Ship 'Regulus' - from Co. Cavan, Ire., Lingenberg [various spellings for this name] - ? Ship 'Ma[n]dilla" -from Danzig, Prussia Robertson - Ship unknown-from Breakish, Skye Scot Rose - Ship 'Orontes'- From Shadwell, London, Eng., Stone - Bounty Imm, Ship 'Berkshire' - From Herts., Eng., Love to hear from any fellow researchers. Helen[now in Geelong]

Hi Listers There have been a number of queries regarding the St QUINTIN family in the Warrnambool area and the introduction of the game polo to Australia in 1876. There is a photograph of an 1883 team with names on the Ballarat Genealogy HELP WANTED page at: http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/hw/help2004.htm Looking for anyone who can add some information on this family or others in the photograph. Regards Daryl Povey

Hi Listers Looking for information on the Rev William GRAHAM, the original Presbyterian Minister in the Coleraine & Casterton area from 1862-1866. Is this the William GRAHAM who was married to Jean / Jane CAMPBELL and who appears to have had the following children? There is a Jean GRAHAM (nee CAMPBELL) who died at Merino in 1886, aged 87 years. Is this his wife? When and where did he die? Are these some of his children? Mary McRAE (wife of Murdoch McRAE), died Rainbow 1908, 84 Elizabeth MEHAFFEY (wife of John MEHAFFEY) died Portland 1900, aged 76 Jean WOOD (wife of ______ WOOD), died Rainbow, 1918, aged 91 Margaret CAMERON (wife of Alexander CAMERON), died Merino 1894, Aged 64 William GRAHAM, died Rainbow 1905, aged 72 Susan / Sarah McKENZIE (wife of Kenneth mcKENZIE0, died Casterton, 1892, aged 53 Regards Daryl Povey

Hi Sharon, Thanks for your reply. I don't know much about the O'BRIENs. Agnes was born in 1872 at Yambuk, the daughter of John O'BRIEN and Bridget MADDIGAN. I found five brothers and five sisters in the BDMs so perhaps your John O'BRIEN is a descendant of one of the brothers. Agnes and James Lane TAYLOR had one child, a daughter Bessie born in Kalgoorlie WA - she married Harry MULDOON and they lived in Tocumwal NSW. Cheers Jan >I have a John O'BRIEN who married Claire O'LEARY, is this any connection to >you. I do not have anything on John (Johnny) O'BRIEN. Claire O'LEARY was >born 13 July 1921. They had one child that I am aware of. > >is this any connection with your lot? > >Kind regards >Sharon > >-------------------------------------------------- >Sharon's email >[email protected] >Sharon's Genealogy Page >http://vic.australis.com.au/family