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    1. Fw: [AUS-VIC-West] passengers Port Fairy
    2. Joan Fawcett
    3. If passengers arrived from UK....even to Port Fairy...the original lists are at the PRO in Melbourne. It is the INTERCOLONIAL passengers that are sometimes not mentioned by name..just by numbers. For example, if you go to the passenger arrivals at Port Fairy for 1844 http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/port8.htm and scroll down to STEERAGE.....you will see how many are listed by number, not name! best wishes Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Quinn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] passengers Port Fairy > Most interested to read the comments about early passengers in this area. > There must have been far more we think as records do not exist for a lot. > I know, for instance, that 4 adults and around a dozen children landed there in 1852 from UK [and I assume the whole shipful] and then went overland to work for a squatter - no records of the ship or passengers exist but the comments came from a memoir written around 1970. They were rowed ashore in a small boat. Unfortunately it also contained the comment that though the ship name had been mentioned the writer could now not recall it. Pity. > Joy > > > ==== AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== > Penshurst Historical Society > www.vicnet.net.au/~penshist > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    02/29/2004 10:48:13
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool
    2. Beryl O'Gorman
    3. I don't know why this took so long to come through. Sorry. It's totally irrelevant in the light of the great info that has come to light in the last 2 days. Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool > Or Portland, and coastal steamer to Warrnambool.

    02/29/2004 10:01:57
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Camperdown Photographer
    2. Helen Lang
    3. Many thanks to all who have taken an interest in my query, now I have an approximate date for the photos, shall try and find someone with a match or a memory of the people in them. Special thanks to Beth as she mentioned a book of which I do have a copy [blush..] Pays to read and re-read to refresh the memory banks eh! Helen Scanned with Up-to-date Norton

    02/29/2004 08:14:12
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] passengers Port Fairy
    2. Joy Quinn
    3. Most interested to read the comments about early passengers in this area. There must have been far more we think as records do not exist for a lot. I know, for instance, that 4 adults and around a dozen children landed there in 1852 from UK [and I assume the whole shipful] and then went overland to work for a squatter - no records of the ship or passengers exist but the comments came from a memoir written around 1970. They were rowed ashore in a small boat. Unfortunately it also contained the comment that though the ship name had been mentioned the writer could now not recall it. Pity. Joy

    02/29/2004 07:08:19
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] More Immigration
    2. Joan Fawcett
    3. taken from IMMIGRATION DURING THE 1850's by William S Logan. "An Assistant Immigration Agent was appointed to Warrnambool about September, 1856 to cope, presumably, with the increased flow of immigrants through Lady Bay. But the continuing scarcity of labour was not satisfied by the immigrants who arrived, and the Melbourne authorities gave instructions in September 1857, for HMS VIctoria to take a batch of unemployed from the metropolis to Warrnambool to fill work vacancies. Some immigrants entering at Port Fairy also began to make their way to the more flourishing town of Warrnambool: for example, of the 55 married couples, 33 single men and 14 single women who landed at Port Fairy from the Balnaguit in January, 1857, about one third left almost immediately for Warrnambool by coastal steamer...leaving one third to be engaged at Belfast and district and the remaindeer waiting in the Belfast IMmigration Depot to be engaged". The significance of the port-towns roles as immigrations centres were greatly reduced in 1859 when the colonial government decided that all assisted immigrants would in future disembark at Melbourne and be transferred, subsequently, to the out ports by coastal vessels. In that year, therefore, no vessels brought immigrants directly from Britiain to the SOuth-west, though 75 persons were transhipped in Hobsons Bay for Portland, 49 for Belfast and 72 for Warrnambool. The following web page gives further examples of emigration schemes used to attract migrants. http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/migrate.htm best wishes Jenny Fawcett

    02/28/2004 03:49:36
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration
    2. Joan Fawcett
    3. In regard to the Geelong and Portland Bay Immigration scheme.....the following URL gives a brief explanation. The index there of names covers probably about 1/2 of those who made their way to Victoria from Tasmania. http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/geelong2.htm If your ancestor was in the south western district pre 1842, there is probably a 80 percent chance he came from Tasmania, or via Launceston. Ships that arrived at Port Fairy and Portland prior to 1842 regularly called at Launceston/George Town or Melbourne before or after arriving at the Port Fairy & Portland. The south western district had a very strong contingent of ex convicts from Tasmania, and New South Wales, or the children of ex convicts from either of those places. In regard to International immigrant ships.....William Rutledge was one of those who really pushed for Warrnambool, Port Fairy and Portland to receive immigrants direct. Portland was the safer option for vessels arriving, with Port Fairy second. Warrnambool did not even receive a breakwater for many years after settlement. The following is a table of unassisted immigration for July-December, 1851. Origion Portland Port Fairy Melbourne. UK 20 Nil 1,731 SA & WA 1 Nil 2,500 VDL (Tas) 56 23 3,721 NSW Nil 26 950 The following is a table showing MOVEMENT WITHIN THE SOUTH WEST OF ASSISTED IMMIGRANTS ARRIVING PER THE OITONIA in 1855 Portland: 179 Belfast 82 Rosebrook 2 Warrnambool 25 Hopkinsn River 8 Hamilton 9 Wannon River 3 Harrow 2 Fiery Creek 2 Spring Creek 1 Harton Hills 3 Rifle Range 4 Fulham station 3 Melbourne 11 the following is a table showing UNASSISTED IMMIGRATION TO THE SOUTH WEST 1855. Origin Portland Belfast Warrnambool Great Britain 49 9 NSW 3 24 15 VDL 45 3 SA & WA 92 25 Other 4 When the HOOGHLY arrived at Portland in 1854, with immigrants, the disposal lists were recorded as follows (Example) NAME Pat Barry CALLING Agricultural Labourer NATIVE COUNTRY Tipperary RELIGON R & W (read and write) EDUCATION RC AGE 28 BY WHOM ENGAGED own account. Belfast (meaning he had paid his own fare.and was going to Belfast) HOW MUCH/RATIONS NAME Oliver Commins CALLING Shopman NATIVE COUNTRY Tipperary RELIGON R & W (read and write) EDUCATION RC AGE 21 BY WHOM ENGAGED R.H.Woodward. Belfast. 70/6 (this means he was employed by R.H.Woodward of Belfast ,and that he was engaged at 70 pounds for 6 months. HOW MUCH/RATIONS and etc. The desire for labourers were so great that when a ship was known to be due at Portland, that he rode over from Port Fairy late at night so that he was first on the boat in the morning. He signed up his labourers (as well some for other squatters) and was off the boat before the morning began. Others were very hissy with him as he took the cream of the labour.

    02/28/2004 03:42:52
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] WEST WIMMERA MAIL
    2. Daryl John Crabtree
    3. June 20, 1919 Mr J. MARTIN, aged 80, one of the first settlers at Salt Lakes, died on Wednesday week. His remains were interred in the Harrow cemetery on the following day. On the same day Mr J. ROWE, aged 51, also of Salt Lakes, died. He had been confined to his bed for over nine years, and had undergone several operations. His remains were conveyed to the Harrow cemetery on Thursday. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

    02/28/2004 03:37:46
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] WEST WIMMERA MAIL
    2. Daryl John Crabtree
    3. June 20, 1919 Pte. B.P. NEILL, brother of Mrs D. McPHEE, of Minimay, arrived home on 6th inst., after an absence of over three and a half years, nearly two and a half years of which he spent as a prisoner of war in Germany. He now looks well but when repatriated December last, was four stone below his normal weight, the result of starvation. Another brother Pte. Jas. NEILL arrived in Melbourne on 12th inst. and reached Goroke on Tuesday. Pte T. DELANEY, formally of Morea, arrived on the same boat. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

    02/28/2004 03:37:29
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] WEST WIMMERA MAIL
    2. Daryl John Crabtree
    3. Hello to all on the list. The hot steamy weather in Gladstone has gone for now. I can once again enter the computer room with a little bit of comfort. June 20, 1919 Quite a crowd assembled at Mr H. OLIVER's residence, Duchembegarra North, on Saturday evening, 14th inst. the occasion being a kitchen tea to Miss Alice BUTLER on the eve of her marriage with Mr W. MACKLEY. The evening was spent in singing, games, etc., and Mr W. BERRY, in a great speech, and on behalf of those present, presented Miss BUTLER, who is the eldest daughter of Mr and Mrs J. BUTLER, with a good supply of kitchen utensils. Supper was provided by the ladies, and altogether an enjoyable evening was spent. Daryl Crabtree Gladstone Qld www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/goroke/

    02/28/2004 03:37:18
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Migrant arrivals
    2. David Wylie
    3. Does anyone know of any ships that arrived at Warrnambool, Port Fairy or Geelong in the early 1920s with migrants aboard please. David

    02/28/2004 03:31:23
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Port of Warrnambool.
    2. Naomi
    3. Dear Listers, >From where I see it, the Port of Warrnambool was established, as Jenny says in 1856. George Bostock was the first to establish a Bond Store on Lady Bay. He was a founding member of the Road Board and also of the first council. He was on the committee to press for the Port to be allocated by the Victorian Government, which it was, in 1856. George was the manager (partner) of Manifold and Bostock with Thomas Manifold. They had purchased the land at Lady Bay, hoping, it seems, that the Port of Warrnambool would be approved in the near future. That is what occurred of course, and the rest is history. Sadly, George died in 1858, but left a wonderful story of enterprise, hard work and determination. He had built The Mill at Mortlake in 1856. Aged about 14 years in c.1840, George was put in charge of checking out all vessels that entered the Moyne River at Port Fairy. He had followed John Cox (s/o James of Clarendon) who had the first bond store at Port Fairy and Michael Connolly (Leura) who was into whaling with the Griffith Family of Launceston. George was born at 'Vaucluse', Cleveland, Tasmania. They all came from Tasmania, as did the Manifolds, Wares, Aitkins, McRobie, and so many others, as Jenny has said. George's father Captain Robert Bostock of 'Vaucluse", Tasmania had taught his son the ways of the sea, trade and shipping apparently. His father's letters from that time show he was ready always to give his son instruction. Robert Bostock was put incharge of the Commissiariat Store at Constitution Dock in 1821 and had his own bond store at the Hobart docks by 1822. He had been a merchant in Sydney Town some years previously. This store on Hobart Docks, later became the Government Treasury and was demolished c.1880. I have photos of both events... I hope this is of some background interest..... Sincerely Thelma (Bostock) Birrell in Queensland. Bostock Betts Barker Blease Wilkinson http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm Cox Upjohn Connell of Wimborne www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ Jas Cox Connell Collins http://matthewbirrell.tripod.com/index.htm Scots-Irish Delahunty Fletcher Mulholland Rafferty Maltman Shearer http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html Landsborough www.electricscotland.com/history/world/landsb.htm Robe (Robb) Bostock (Keith/Bristol) www.electricscotland.com/webclans/minibios/r/robe_family.htm

    02/28/2004 03:10:35
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Foley - Bostock
    2. Naomi
    3. Hello Les, I see you are looking for Foley. One of the family of Augustus Bostock, who wrote the diaries, that I post to the list, married Bridget Eileen Foley b.1901 to David Foley. The family lived at Portland. Does this ring any bells ? Thelma (Bostock) Birrell in Queensland. Bostock Betts Barker Blease Wilkinson http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm Cox Upjohn Connell of Wimborne www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ Jas Cox Connell Collins http://matthewbirrell.tripod.com/index.htm

    02/28/2004 02:30:44
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration to W.bool direct? NO
    2. Lex Foley
    3. Dear Jenny, Many thanks for the History on the three towns as i found it very interesting, and I think that you may have just put another spoke in the old wheel for me (or took a brick out of the wall). I have not been able to locate any information as to how our greatgrandfather Cornelius FOLEY got from Tassie to Victoria (you had checked it out for me earlier) as he got his "Free Ticket" in 1847 and was married in Victoria in 1854, but no passage. I had found that on some of the shipping into Portland the Henty's had a couple of passages in their name and had wondered if that may have been family or how they got their workers over to Victoria and he may have been one of them. So now it could have been via this scheme seeing that the passage was free. Would you know if any records were kept of the voyages or not. Cheers for now, Lex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Fawcett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:39 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration to W.bool direct? NO <snip> > There was a lot of competition between the towns of Portland, Port Fairy and Warrnambool. <snip> > Prior to the late 1840's. the main immigrations scheme which brought immigrants to these three towns was a colonial based scheme operated under the auspices of the Geelong and Portland Bay immigratioon society. Basically the squatters and business men were desperate for labour....they banded together and subscribed a sum of money, a secretary was appointed and also agents in Tasmania, and ex convicts and tradesmen were encouraged to migrate over to Victoria, under inducement that their voyages were free (sometimes a small fee applied), and most importantly they could choose their own employer. Some variations to the scheme allowed for food and lodging....advertisements were placed in Tasmanian newspapers and candidates encouraged to contact local agents. The first wave of migrants came direct to Geelong and were housed in the immigration accomodation there. Somewhere around 3000 Taswegians migrated over between 1845-1847. <snip> > Also ,Portland and Port Fairy both ran small Taswegian schemes but only for a brief period of time.

    02/28/2004 01:55:40
    1. RE: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration to W.bool direct? NO
    2. Beth Codling
    3. Thanks Joan for this detailed overview of the times. Obviously my great granparents were part of that "trawling for labour".Richard (born 1831 and son of a Cornish farmer) and his new wife Priscilla Harvey arrived in Port Fairy on the Clara in Dec 1854 and the shipping records state that he was an agricultural labourer. My research of his children's birth and his death certificate indicate that he actually ended up working as a quarryman and stone mason but perhaps he started off on a farm. The shipping records say that he came "of own accord". I'm not sure if this means he paid his way or was sponsored in some other way. I wonder how many overseas ships actually dropped off passengers at Port Fairy? The Clara had dropped off at Portland too. Your comments Joan would seem to mean that there might not have been many. Thanks for your info Joan. Beth in Melbourne

    02/28/2004 01:27:05
    1. RE: [AUS-VIC-West] Re: Camperdown Photographer
    2. Beth Codling
    3. Hello Ada and other interested parties I have a copy of "The Progress of Camperdown and District". (This is a 1994/1995 exact reprint of the original 1913 edition by the Camperdown Chronicle.) Most of the photographs in it are by Walter Sheridan and there is a half page advertisement (advertorials alive and well in 1913?) telling of his "high reputation as a photographic artist". He had "recently removed his studio from Cobden Rd to a more central and convenient position in Martin's Buildings opposite the Post Office." This is in Church street and so named because of the C of E church a few metres down the street. I doubt Church Street was ever called Camp Street. Certainly not in the memory of my 91 year old father who still lives in Camperdown and whose grandmother lived in Church Street. I can remember a Photographer (I think called Ethel Podger) being probably in those same Photographic Studio rooms in the 1940s when I was a young child. Ada I think "Australians Behind the Camera" must have got it wrong with Camp Street. Beth Codling Email: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Ada Ackerly [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2004 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Re: Camperdown Photographer Hello Margaret, Helen & List, "Australians Behind the Camera" gives the following for Walter Sheridan: [Templeton Street] (my listing) Castlemaine 1901-02 Cobden St Camperdown 1910-12 Camp St Camperdown 1912-1927 [Martin's Buildings opposite Post Office 1920s But no Church St. Can you give any other local exactness to this man's addresses? I'd love to enter the corrections in my records. It may help someone else enquiring. Regards Ada At 09:32 25-02-04 +1100, you wrote: >Hello Helen & List >I was on duty at Camperdown (Historical Society Inc) Museum yesterday >(tuesday) & had a look through photographs & found a photo with 'Walter >Sheridan Photographer' studio in the background. >The time frame 1910-14 looks about right as the photograph is of a lady >(Jemma Pratt) in a carriage in front of the studio. Miss Pratt operated a >Private hospital in Camperdown. >Walter Sheridan, studio was in Church St Camperdown and the building still >stands (somewhat changed). >Camperdown Museum holds a wonderfull collection of old photohraphs of the >district & it's people. >Museum is opened every Tues, Frid, Sun from 2-4pm. >Regards >Margaret Nixon > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Helen Lang" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:08 PM >Subject: [AUS-VIC-West] Camperdown Photographer > > > > Hello All > > > > Have a lot of old photos from W. Sheridan Camperdown, I think about > > 1900-1910. As is usual, very few are identified, does anyone have any > > suggestions or information re the photographer? Also one from G.A.Lee also > > from Camperdown, > > > > TIA > > Helen > > > >==== AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== >GENSEEK: A comprehensive website rich in Western District information >hosted by Jenny Fawcett >http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/westdist.htm > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch ==== AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT Mailing List ==== Creswick and Clunes Advertiser Indexes (Sue O'Neill) http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~pobjoyoneill/index.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    02/28/2004 01:07:49
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration to W.bool direct? NO
    2. Joan Fawcett
    3. Warrnambool never had any ships come in to port which specifically carried selected immigrants from international ports. International immigrants (from England, Ireland ,Scotland etc) usually arrived at Portland, Geelong or Melbourne, and then came overland to Warrnambool. But Warrnambool did have an immigration agent, as did Port Fairy and Portland. There was a lot of competition between the towns of Portland, Port Fairy and Warrnambool. 1835-1842. Portland and Port Fairy sister settlements. Common interests, common goals. greater majority of settlers,migrants, mechanics, labourers etc were all out of Tasmania. Because of their growing success the twin towns attracted the attention of the wealthy Sydney merchants. James Atkinson and William Rutledge had been granted Special Surveys (5120 acres). Rutledge acted as Atkinson's agent (and also agent for a bloke called Campbell). These three men laid out their land grants in such a manner that they became the principal land owners of all properties between Port Fairy and Warrnambool. Then they began the push to attract immigrants, business , etc, to the reason for civic development. At this time division grew between the two towns, as the Henty's had already been backing the same ideals for their region. The division between the two towns was heightened by the editors of newspapers, who published inflammatory stories about each town being individually selected as the new major city outside of Melbourne....literally the star in the west. But meanwhile back in Port Fairy problems were rearing their ugly little heads. The locals who had been resident in Port Fairy from the 1835 time frame were horrified at Atkinson's taking up all the land which was the former township of Port Fairy.Atkinson renamed his township Belfast. The locals began a push for a government township on the dunes east of the old township. Local small business men and tenant farmers soon found their rents, their business and their opportunities were all controlled by two men (Atkinson and Rutledge) wereas over at Portland free trade was still available. Disgusted residents soon began eyeing off nearby Warrnambool Bay as the new township of the west, as land was impossible to obtain anywhere west of that place.....squatters to the north and north west and Atkinson's, Rutledges and Campbell's land grants nullified most opportunities. So it was that in 1847 Warrnambool township came into existence. Each of these three ports were dependant upon the sea for trade, communication and immigration. Portland Bay was the safest anchorage, Belfast to a lesser degree but plans were in place to build a breakwater and offer protection to vessels, but Warrnambool was far from a safe harbour. Because of this, vessels traditionally preferred Portland, but it as the most distant place. Prior to the late 1840's. the main immigrations scheme which brought immigrants to these three towns was a colonial based scheme operated under the auspices of the Geelong and Portland Bay immigratioon society. Basically the squatters and business men were desperate for labour....they banded together and subscribed a sum of money, a secretary was appointed and also agents in Tasmania, and ex convicts and tradesmen were encouraged to migrate over to Victoria, under inducement that their voyages were free (sometimes a small fee applied), and most importantly they could choose their own employer. Some variations to the scheme allowed for food and lodging....advertisements were placed in Tasmanian newspapers and candidates encouraged to contact local agents. The first wave of migrants came direct to Geelong and were housed in the immigration accomodation there. Somewhere around 3000 Taswegians migrated over between 1845-1847. Not all of these stayed...some just used the opportunity to knock up big wages and then headed back to Tasmania, or on to NSW, NZ etc. Both Atkinson, Rutledge and Campbell brought migrants down from NSW for work, again, these were intercolonial vessels. Also ,Portland and Port Fairy both ran small Taswegian schemes but only for a brief period of time. Different emigration/immigration schemes have operated over the years, and whilst each of these agents, and some of these agents did operate specifically out of Port Fairy, Warrnambool and Geelong, no vessels came direct to Warrnambool . The most common avenue of entry was at Portland or Geelong, often an agent for local employers would head down to the docks where the boat arrived, and he would pick migrants as directed by his employers (eg....irish tenant farmers would ask for irish labourers, english merchants might request an english or scottish maid for their wife, ) and he would then organise their passage to Port Fairy or Warrnambool (usually by coastal steamer. or ship). The more skilled the migrant, the more chance of higher wages and good living conditions. Those less skilled often had to be content with a contract as a day labourer for local councils/road boards etc. Many of these migrants when far into the hinterland regions of Victoria.....squatters well to the north selected their staff from vessels out of these three ports. But one has to quantify the status of an immigrant to truly state that no immigrants ever arrived.......as really, all were migrants.....just some were immigrants and some emigrants <s> best wishes Jenny

    02/28/2004 10:39:14
    1. Re: Thanks - RE: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool
    2. Beryl O'Gorman
    3. You'll find both Port Fairy and Portland most helpful Malcolm. Why not try both? Cheers Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Ward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: Thanks - RE: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool > Many thanks to everyone who replied on my query about passenger ships direct > to Warrnambool from the UK c 1850s and c 1870. > > Consensus is that there were no passengers off-loaded at Warrnambool from > ships originating in the UK, but Port Fairy (Belfast) and Portland were > ports of entry (at least over some period) and Adelaide and of course > Melbourne were other sources of W'bool - bound people.

    02/28/2004 09:34:52
    1. Thanks - RE: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool
    2. Malcolm Ward
    3. Many thanks to everyone who replied on my query about passenger ships direct to Warrnambool from the UK c 1850s and c 1870. Consensus is that there were no passengers off-loaded at Warrnambool from ships originating in the UK, but Port Fairy (Belfast) and Portland were ports of entry (at least over some period) and Adelaide and of course Melbourne were other sources of W'bool - bound people. I've had one suggestion but do people have a view on which local historical society might be best for ship and passenger details for Port Fairy & Portland & inter-coastal ships serving Warrnambool from those ports (I'm aware of the indexes on the PRO Victoria web site & the other material at PROV). Regards Malcolm Ward [email protected] Sydney, Australia

    02/28/2004 04:23:17
    1. [AUS-VIC-West] URL's for this week
    2. Tall Trees Family History
    3. URL's 27 February, 2004 If you would like to know how to get the previous 4000 URL's http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees/starters/cd.html Thanks to Sheelagh Wiles, Shyama Peebles, Mary Criddle, Stephen Hillier & Sandie for contributing Asplin Military History Resources http://hometown.aol.co.uk/kevinasplin/home.html Beyond the Black Stump http://www.blackstump.com.au/geneal.htm Boston Newspapers on Line http://www.bpl.org/research/microtext/news.htm Brass Band Photographic History Page http://www.optom.unsw.edu.au/public/bbhistory/bbh.htm Digital Storytelling http://www.acmi.net.au/digitalstorytelling.jsp French Refugees in Great Britain 1700's http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~frpayments/Index.htm GenMaps http://go.to/genmaps Glamorgan Wales http://www.justgen.com/gla.htm GoToGenealogy Search Engine http://www.gotogenealogy.com/ Hudson's Bay Company Archives http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/ Ireland Book Discussion Mailing List http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/IrelandBooks.htm Kinross-shire Scotland http://www.CyndisList.com/sct-krs.htm Legacy - Free Family History Program http://tinyurl.com/yw41 Lost London Street Index http://members.aol.com/WHall95037/london.html Ludwick Bruck's List of Unregistered Practitioners http://www.jcu.edu.au/aff/history/articles/bruck2.htm Mariners & Ships in Australian Waters http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/ Norfolk Transcription Archive http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php Perthshire Scotland http://www.justgen.com/per.htm Place Name Help http://www.ga.gov.au/map/names/ Research Aids: Victoria 1910 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kenmac/victowns/ Researching Prisoners of War http://www.btinternet.com/~prosearch/tomspage19.html Scottish Placenames in Melbourne Victoria http://www.rampantscotland.com/know/blknow_melbourne.htm Shipping Links http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/Loz/aust_shipping.htm Starting Genealogy CD http://tinyurl.com/yw42 St. Joseph's RC Church & School Nechells Birmingham UK http://www.stjosephs-rc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk Tipperary Emigrant Indexes http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maddenps/TIPPEM.htm Tracking The Dragon http://www.ahc.gov.au/infores/publications/chineseheritage/ TreEZy Search Engine http://www.treezy.com UK 1891 Census http://www.uk1891census.com/links.htm UK Census Dates http://www.connexions.dabsol.co.uk/uk-censusdates.html Western NSW History http://members.iinet.net.au/~mewilson/westernnsw.htm Cheers, Carolyn Harris - nee Johnson (Victorian in exile) PO Box 4157, Myaree Business Centre, Myaree 6960, Western Australia [email protected] Tall Trees Family History http://www.westnet.com.au/talltrees Perth Dead Person's Society http://www.perthdps.com/research/har02.html Legacy Family Tree is now FREE. Download from http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=27495Ji ================================================== My ancestors are hiding in a witness protection program.

    02/27/2004 10:37:18
    1. Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool
    2. Susie Zada
    3. Hi Folks, Marten Syme's "Shipping Arrivals and Departures Victorian Ports 1798-1855 (2 vols) have separate sections for Warrnambool. The majority of ships in this section came from Port Fairy, Portland or Melbourne and if you look the size are quite small. I can vaguely remember reading about passengers from O/S disembarking from larger ships to then sailing by smaller ones to these smaller ports in between. If you follow some of them back you'll find that a lot originated in Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney so highly likely that these major ports were their initial landing site before transferring to small intercoastal vessels for Warrnambool etc. Regards .......... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Mason" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-West] Immigration direct to Warrnambool > Have no knowledge of any ships to Warrnambool direct, but at least > four went direct to Belfast/Port Fairy (including "Chance" in 1857). > Many more went to Portland. Apart from Geelong and Melbourne, > in my family two groups who ended up in Hamilton came via Adelaide. > > > >

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