Hi My 10 favourite genealogy things: 1. A software package to record all the bits and pieces (I have piles of paper in my living room from when I started and I just can't seem to keep it neat.) It will also help me publish a small book of my findings for our family Christmas get together, in seconds. 2. Those websites that help me to find lost cousins I didn't know I had! 3. My free genealogy website to upload my GEDCOM to - and share my latest findings with those lost cousins that I have met! 4. Being a member of the free LinX Family History Society - Martin has been very helpful in expanding my tree! 5. My PDA/PPC and free family tree software - so I can take my tree with me everywhere and it fits in the palm of my hand. 6. My digital camera - so I can share good quality photos of family with others! 7. My scanner - so I can scan my certificates from the GRO - and store them on my family tree software package. 8. Those free sites - FreeBMD, FreeReg, FreeCen, OPC's, Parish the thought, a wealth of information for nought! 9. Bad weather - makes a good excuse for sitting at the computer all day. 10. Acid free archival stationary - for storing all the stuff that only comes in paper (mainly GRO certificates and photos). Cheers, Kelly ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LINCSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks The Casteton Historical Society has a website at... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/historicalsociety.htm The 2007 Program of Events has just been added (thanks Jan) The list of current holdings available for searching has also been updated at... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/chs_research.htm or via the HOLDINGS link from the main page above. ============================================ Casterton Historical Society Calendar of Events for 2007: * January 8th and 9th - Trip to Public Records Office, Ballarat * February 9th - Welcome New Residents Evening * March 10th, 11th 12th - Scanning Historic Photographs and Exhibition with Vern McCallum, Casterton Community Museum 11am to 7pm Saturday and Sunday 11am to 3pm Monday * March 25th - Field Trip to Nareen, Tarrayoukyan and Wando Heights - Identification of former State School sites project. * April 22nd - Field Trip to Carapook, Bruk Bruk, Muntham and Sandford - Identification of former State School sites project. * May 5th and 6th - Scanning Historic Photographs and Exhibition with Vern McCallum, Sandford Hotel 10am to 4pm Saturday, 10am to 3pm Sunday * May 19th - Annual Dinner - Albion Hotel - 100th anniversary current building. * May 27th - Field Trip to Brimboal, Wando and Powers Creek - Identification of former State School sites project. * June 18th - General Meeting - Sandford Hotel - Guest speaker Trish Martin (new owner) * July 16th - AGM, RSL Rooms, Casterton, 2pm Guest speaker TBC * August 20th - General Meeting 2pm Merino Hotel - Guest speaker TBC * August 25th and 26th - Vern McCallum Historic Photographic Exhibition Digby * September 23rd - Field trip to Henty, Wurt Wurt Koort, Merino Downs, Glenorchy and Merino - Identification of former State School Sites * October 21st - Field trip to Grassdale, Paschendale and Tahara - Identification of former State School Sites * November 17th and 18th - Back to Sandford weekend with Scanning sessions and Exhibition Vern McCallum * November 21st - End of year dinner - Sandford Hotel - 7pm Guest Speaker TBC ============================================ Regards Daryl

Another piece of advice is talk to your parents about their family photos. Dont put it off. lve just asked mum if we could go through all the ones l knew she had stored in a box, only to be told she had thown them all out, well most of them any way. She didnt think any one would want them, they are only old photos to her, but to me a part they were part of the past and a lot more. But hey, what could l say shes my mum. >From: "Deb Guildner" <bocor@bigbutton.com.au> >Reply-To: aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com >To: <aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com>, <aus-sag@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] Good advice for family historians >Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 08:13:59 +1030 > >If I had to give one piece of advice to people starting out in their family >tree, it would be to be organised from the beginning! I have just spent the >entire evening beginning to put nearly 20 years of research into my new >software, which I think will take months to do. Keep a good record of where >each source comes from, a record of those searches that didn't yield a >result (to save you doing it again) and set up a filing system from the >outset, both for research notes and sources, and also a summary of >information for each person, either on software or on paper. > >I really wish that someone had given me this advice! > >Vicki > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06&_m=EXT

Hi Vicki I assume you have a very organised BACKUP routine (how many backups, how often?) for your data and an off-site storage for backups. Remember it is only TIME you are investing! Cheers Daryl At 08:43 AM 2/12/2006, you wrote: >If I had to give one piece of advice to people starting out in their family >tree, it would be to be organised from the beginning! I have just spent the >entire evening beginning to put nearly 20 years of research into my new >software, which I think will take months to do. Keep a good record of where >each source comes from, a record of those searches that didn't yield a >result (to save you doing it again) and set up a filing system from the >outset, both for research notes and sources, and also a summary of >information for each person, either on software or on paper. > >I really wish that someone had given me this advice! > >Vicki

Vicki, I could not agree more with your advice re keeping records. When I first started family history research about nine years ago, I didn't have any computer programmes to use, so I started by setting up a 'steam' filing system. I just had to, as the notes and other papers that my mother left when she died were in a state of total chaos. I had to sort things out so that I had some idea of what was actually there! My mother's idea of filing was to put things into old handbags and shoeboxes and shove them away in the back of the wardrobe. I guess I should count myself lucky that she even did that much... The whole process of filing and sorting is tedious, I grant you, but making the effort does pay off in the long run. Your precious items are stored safely, and a workable filing system means you save time when you want to look up some information. Two things I have learned: 1. No matter how much information you have now, you will accumulate more - never underestimate how much more. 2. If you find out something about an ancestor, write it down, make a note of where you found it, and when - never overestimate your memory. Good luck with the organising, but fear not, it does get easier as you plug away at it - one thing you can do is start by organising everything broadly according to surnames, starting with the earliest names you have, and listing marriages under your family surname. Then you can refine the list according to generations, and go from there. Some people say you should start with yourself and work backwards, but I have found that the reverse order worked best for me. My suggestion would be to sort out as much of this stuff as you can before you attempt to put it into your software. Cheers Julie.

If I had to give one piece of advice to people starting out in their family tree, it would be to be organised from the beginning! I have just spent the entire evening beginning to put nearly 20 years of research into my new software, which I think will take months to do. Keep a good record of where each source comes from, a record of those searches that didn't yield a result (to save you doing it again) and set up a filing system from the outset, both for research notes and sources, and also a summary of information for each person, either on software or on paper. I really wish that someone had given me this advice! Vicki

Thanks everyone for your input. Not being familiar with Western Victoria I didn't know if I was looking at hours or days using a horse and cart. Still none the wiser why they decided to elope - he was 47 and she was 33. Baby number 1 didn't arrive for another ten months (aren't we awful?). The Rev Beamish married Mary's sister two months previously in Mortlake, so you would think they would have a double-wedding or at least book him in for his next visit. Hmm, if I could have just five minutes with the ancestors, the things I would like to ask . . . Thanks again, Trish

Dear Trish Re eloping, a Beggs/Moran cousin of mine in approx 1880's, of Woolsthorpe, tried to elope b/c she was sixteen, & her stepfather didn't want her to marry his head groom. They were pursued & she was brought back, unmarried. Regards Debra debra.vaughan@defence.gov.au tsymonds wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone give me an idea of how long it would take to journey from > Mortlake to Warrnambool by horse and cart in 1858 and why would > someone choose to elope at that time? Was Rev. Beamish too ill to travel his usual circuit? Any help gratefully received. > > Trish > North Nowra

Hi Trish Well it took a full hour at 40-50 mph back in the late forties, early fifties, so I guess you'd be looking at at least 3 given the roads of the time. The distance was 30 miles (whatever that is now in kms). The ministers at that time administered HUGE areas, so perhaps there was some haste required? Could have been a dozen reasons - religion, family disapproval, etc. Cheers Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "tsymonds" <psym8950@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] Mortlake to Warrnambool by horse and cart > Can anyone give me an idea of how long it would take to journey from Mortlake to Warrnambool > by horse and cart in 1858 and why would someone choose to elope at that time? Was Rev. Beamish

At a regular travelling pace (trot) a horse would cover nine to eleven miles per hour. Joy tsymonds wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone give me an idea of how long it would take to journey from Mortlake to Warrnambool > by horse and cart in 1858 and why would someone choose to elope at that time? Was Rev. Beamish > too ill to travel his usual circuit? Any help gratefully received. > > Trish > North Nowra > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi, Can anyone give me an idea of how long it would take to journey from Mortlake to Warrnambool by horse and cart in 1858 and why would someone choose to elope at that time? Was Rev. Beamish too ill to travel his usual circuit? Any help gratefully received. Trish North Nowra

Many thanks Lorene!! Regards Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Lorene" <latham@alphalink.com.au> To: <aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] Hope DENTON > Hi Jill, > > Here is what I found on your Denton family. If you would like any further > info, just ask. > > Kind regards, > Lorene > > > Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 > > > Surname: DENTON > Given Names: Thos Joseph > Event: M > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: HOPE > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eliza > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: > Death Place: > Year: 1915 > Reg. Number: 1287 > > Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 > > Surname: DENTON > Given Names: Alice Margaret > Event: B > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: HARROW > Death Place: > Year: 1918 > Reg. Number: 3891 > > Surname: DENTON > Given Names: Bessie May > Event: B > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: HARROW > Death Place: > Year: 1920 > Reg. Number: 31943 > > Surname: DENTON > Given Names: Thos Peel > Event: B > Sex: > Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE > Age: > Age Code: > Birth Place: HARROW > Death Place: > Year: 1915 > Reg. Number: 4299 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jill, Here is what I found on your Denton family. If you would like any further info, just ask. Kind regards, Lorene Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 Surname: DENTON Given Names: Thos Joseph Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: HOPE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eliza Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 1287 Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920 Surname: DENTON Given Names: Alice Margaret Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HARROW Death Place: Year: 1918 Reg. Number: 3891 Surname: DENTON Given Names: Bessie May Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HARROW Death Place: Year: 1920 Reg. Number: 31943 Surname: DENTON Given Names: Thos Peel Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Joseph Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Elsie Elizth HOPE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: HARROW Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 4299

Hi, I would be very grateful if anyone can help me with the following: I'm trying to find a connection with Robert Hope Denton (born: 1922 Harrow, Vic, married: Ruby Muir) and the following: Francis Hope Denton: his son: John Hope Denton Robert Hope Denton's father may have been: Thomas J Denton c1885 married: ?Elsia Unknown Many thanks Jill

At 02:36 PM 28/11/2006, you wrote: >Hi Daryl and Richard, > >This is similar to the problem reported by Keith a few days ago. There seems >to be a problem with damaged links for some locations on the results of page >of a database search. > >I searched for a common surname, Smith, which returns many hits. In addition >to the problems with Port Fairy and Lake Bolac (reported by Keith), I found >damaged links for >Scotts/Cowleys Ck http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Scotts/C.html >Strathkellar http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Strahkel.html > >There may be others - I didn't check all locations > >Regards > >Dennis Fyfe Hi Dennis That is making more sense, I had not tried the links from a database search just direct links from the menu which appear to be OK. It took me 3 years of lobbying to get Deakin to put the site back on again, at least these problems can be worked around. I think it is worth getting the various historical societies who are interested to have a chat with Arts at Deakin to see if the project can be revived with corrections and additions from other Honour Rolls & Memorials in the area. Perhaps there are many of you who could raise this as a discussion issue with your local group? Casterton & Hamilton Societies are already talking! Responses ? Regards Daryl -------------------------------------------------------------------- Daryl Povey - povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au Ballarat & District Genealogical Society, Victoria, Australia... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ Casterton & District Historical Society... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/historicalsociety.htm 105th Field Battery, Royal Australian Artillery Association... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/105/ Now hosted by... http://www.ballarat.vic.au/ --------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Daryl and Richard, This is similar to the problem reported by Keith a few days ago. There seems to be a problem with damaged links for some locations on the results of page of a database search. I searched for a common surname, Smith, which returns many hits. In addition to the problems with Port Fairy and Lake Bolac (reported by Keith), I found damaged links for Scotts/Cowleys Ck http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Scotts/C.html Strathkellar http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Strahkel.html There may be others - I didn't check all locations Regards Dennis Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl K Povey" <povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au> To: <aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:16 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] SW Vic War Heritage > Hi Richard > > You have not indicated which link you are using as there are a few > ways to navigate around the site. > > From the War Memorials database Link it takes me to... > > http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Ptfairy.html > > > From the interactive map at... > > http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/SW_Surv2.html > > I get to port Fairy without any problems > > without any problems > > Whicj link are you trying to access? > > Daryl > > At 10:57 PM 27/11/2006, you wrote: >>Hi Daryl, >>I have downloaded Firefox and still get a 404 error. This is what i get >>when >>i click on the Port Fairy Site http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Port . is >>the the complete address. >>Regards Richard >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daryl Povey - povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au > > Ballarat & District Genealogical Society, Victoria, Australia... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ > Casterton & District Historical Society... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/historicalsociety.htm > 105th Field Battery, Royal Australian Artillery Association... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/105/ > Now hosted by... > http://www.ballarat.vic.au/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ron Ronald A. (Ron) Cooper Materials Manager B: 61 3 9868 2197 F: 61 3 9868 2337 M: 61 (0) 419 422 741 E: cooperr@tabcorp.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-western-district-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-western-district-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of merry Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 8:16 AM To: aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] SW Vic War Heritage Hi Daryl, I was accessing through the War Memorials Database. I can now access it if I change the end of rhe link to http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Ptfairy.html . When I click on the War Memorials Database I get the link http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Port . Thanks for your help Richard Merry ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ******************************************************* PLEASE NOTE: This internet email message has been checked for viruses and appropriate content to ensure it complies with TABCORP's electronic communication policy. ******************************************************* *********************************************************************************** The information in this e-mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The message and files may be protected by legal professional privilege, or other legal rules. The confidentiality of and privilege applying to this message and files is not waived if this message or files has been sent to you by mistake. If the reader of this message or files is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, distribution or copying of this message and files are strictly prohibited. If you receive this message or files in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and delete all copies from your computer system. It is the recipient's responsibility to check this message and files for viruses. Thank you. ***********************************************************************************

Hi Daryl, I was accessing through the War Memorials Database. I can now access it if I change the end of rhe link to http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Ptfairy.html . When I click on the War Memorials Database I get the link http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Port . Thanks for your help Richard Merry

Hi Richard You have not indicated which link you are using as there are a few ways to navigate around the site. From the War Memorials database Link it takes me to... http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Ptfairy.html From the interactive map at... http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/SW_Surv2.html I get to port Fairy without any problems without any problems Whicj link are you trying to access? Daryl At 10:57 PM 27/11/2006, you wrote: >Hi Daryl, >I have downloaded Firefox and still get a 404 error. This is what i get when >i click on the Port Fairy Site http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Port . is >the the complete address. >Regards Richard > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Daryl Povey - povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au Ballarat & District Genealogical Society, Victoria, Australia... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ Casterton & District Historical Society... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/historicalsociety.htm 105th Field Battery, Royal Australian Artillery Association... http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/105/ Now hosted by... http://www.ballarat.vic.au/ --------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Daryl, I have downloaded Firefox and still get a 404 error. This is what i get when i click on the Port Fairy Site http://www.swvicwarmemorials.com/Port . is the the complete address. Regards Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl K Povey" <povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au> To: <aus-vic-western-district@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT] SW Vic War Heritage > Hi Richard > > I have no trouble with the Port Fairy links, I am using Firefox. > > The Ballarat Cemeteries CD details are at... > > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ballarat-cemeteries-cd.htm > > Contact details at... > > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/contact.htm > > but dont' mention money or pensions as they caused a skirmish a few weeks > ago! > > Daryl > > > At 08:28 PM 27/11/2006, you wrote: > >>The South West Victoria's War Heritage Website Great site, I can >>access every thing except the Port Fairy section, can any >>please suggest what I might be doing wrong.. >>Also I am travelling to Ballarat tomorrow and I am wondering if >>there is any where I can obtain the New CD for the Ballarat Cem. >>inscriptions. >>rgards to all >>Richard Merry >>Geelong > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daryl Povey - povey.daryl.k@sebas.vic.edu.au > > Ballarat & District Genealogical Society, Victoria, Australia... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/ > Casterton & District Historical Society... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/casterton/historicalsociety.htm > 105th Field Battery, Royal Australian Artillery Association... > http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/105/ > Now hosted by... > http://www.ballarat.vic.au/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-WESTERN-DISTRICT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message