Thanks Ros, and thank you to all who wrote in reply about Ovens. I have enough to do the job. Thanks Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony & Bronwen Smith" <tsmith@netc.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] H and H reach the ovens > from the concise enclyclopedia of Australia and N.Z. p 589. > Leuitenant John Ovens (1788-1825) in 73rd regiment , sent to nsw with gov. mcquarrrie in 1809. > in 1823, discovered monaro plains.Promoted to major 1824.ands appointed gov.'s private secretary. > Bronwen > > Denise McMahon wrote: > > > There is a Cairn near Everton. It marks the spot where Hume and HOvell crossed the road to Bright!!! > > > > They descended from the hills and reached the stream they named the Ovens. > > > > Test............Who is M Ovens? > > > > The cairn is right outside the boundary of Brookfield - Hiram Crawford's property at Everton. So I was tickled to find this description and I am putting a comment in the story but would like to know from someone on the list with good history sense who Ovens was. > > > > Thanks Denise > >