Well Bruce, I for one would like a little bit more information than just "it all may be given away this year". Crown land is land owned and / or controlled by the Government (State or Federal). It can NOT be "given away" without enormous repercussions. What about a little bit more information instead of just water-cooler scuttlebutt? Without more credible information, I think we should all just take this with a big grain of salt. Peter Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "bruce johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cemeteries on Crown land > thank you linda for your reply > i have an important reason for asking this question > reguarding crown land as it all may be given away this year > will post a bit more information soon > cheers bruce > > > > > At 06:42 PM 4/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: > >At 12:00 AM 4/03/05 -0700, Bruce wrote: > > > >>I am just wondering are cemetaries on crown land ? > > > >The vast majority of cemeteries in Victoria are on Crown Land special > >purposes reserves. They appear on Victorian Parish maps as Cem. Res. with a > >file number, sometimes with the word Gaz. before it. That number is a > >multiple number/two numbers (eg 427/98), being the page and year of the > >Govt gazette where it was gazetted. (I am flying blind, it might be the > >other way around, but you know what I mean). > > > >I have found cemeteries on private land and in a recreation reserve, but > >this in rare. In my local area there are no churchyard cemeteries - I don't > >actually know of any in Victoria, but there may be some further away from me. > > > >In the past a number of Councils acted as the Cemetery Trust, but were > >still answerable to the state Health Dept Cemeteries Section. > > > >So yes, they are probably 90% at least state crown land in Victoria > > > >Cheers > > > >Linda > > > > >

ok, this is more than water-cooler scuttlebutt, and i wanted a bit more time to pass on more info there has been a discussion document issued by the victorian bracks government via the DSE, called Indigenous land managment framework. The VIC GOV wants to give ALL victorian crown land to indigenous people. They inturn "may" lease some of the land back to the government, and then WE pay a fee to use or enter crown land, cemetery's, national parks,etc the list is endless. in the document statements already indicate that there are no agreements that all crown land will be leased back see page 24/26 This could be taken to extremes, when you look at the big picture you can view the document at www.dse.vic.gov.au you can comment on the document, even though it says the closeing date has passed At 12:37 PM 5/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Well Bruce, I for one would like a little bit more information than just "it >all may be given away this year". Crown land is land owned and / or >controlled by the Government (State or Federal). It can NOT be "given away" >without enormous repercussions. > >What about a little bit more information instead of just water-cooler >scuttlebutt? > >Without more credible information, I think we should all just take this with >a big grain of salt. > >Peter Ross > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bruce johnson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cemeteries on Crown land > > >> thank you linda for your reply >> i have an important reason for asking this question >> reguarding crown land as it all may be given away this year >> will post a bit more information soon >> cheers bruce >> >> >> >> >> At 06:42 PM 4/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >> >At 12:00 AM 4/03/05 -0700, Bruce wrote: >> > >> >>I am just wondering are cemetaries on crown land ? >> > >> >The vast majority of cemeteries in Victoria are on Crown Land special >> >purposes reserves. They appear on Victorian Parish maps as Cem. Res. with >a >> >file number, sometimes with the word Gaz. before it. That number is a >> >multiple number/two numbers (eg 427/98), being the page and year of the >> >Govt gazette where it was gazetted. (I am flying blind, it might be the >> >other way around, but you know what I mean). >> > >> >I have found cemeteries on private land and in a recreation reserve, but >> >this in rare. In my local area there are no churchyard cemeteries - I >don't >> >actually know of any in Victoria, but there may be some further away from >me. >> > >> >In the past a number of Councils acted as the Cemetery Trust, but were >> >still answerable to the state Health Dept Cemeteries Section. >> > >> >So yes, they are probably 90% at least state crown land in Victoria >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >Linda >> > >> > >> > >

sorry its called "Indigenous land management framework" left out the e At 01:16 PM 5/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >ok, this is more than water-cooler >scuttlebutt, and i wanted a bit more time to pass on more info > >there has been a discussion document issued by the victorian bracks government >via the DSE, called Indigenous land managment framework. >The VIC GOV wants to give ALL victorian crown land to indigenous people. >They inturn "may" lease some of the land back to the government, and then WE >pay a fee to use or enter crown land, cemetery's, national parks,etc the >list is endless. >in the document statements already indicate that there are no agreements >that all crown land >will be leased back see page 24/26 >This could be taken to extremes, when you look at the big picture > > >you can view the document at www.dse.vic.gov.au >you can comment on the document, even though it says the closeing >date has passed > > > > >At 12:37 PM 5/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >>Well Bruce, I for one would like a little bit more information than just "it >>all may be given away this year". Crown land is land owned and / or >>controlled by the Government (State or Federal). It can NOT be "given away" >>without enormous repercussions. >> >>What about a little bit more information instead of just water-cooler >>scuttlebutt? >> >>Without more credible information, I think we should all just take this with >>a big grain of salt. >> >>Peter Ross >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "bruce johnson" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM >>Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cemeteries on Crown land >> >> >>> thank you linda for your reply >>> i have an important reason for asking this question >>> reguarding crown land as it all may be given away this year >>> will post a bit more information soon >>> cheers bruce >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 06:42 PM 4/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >>> >At 12:00 AM 4/03/05 -0700, Bruce wrote: >>> > >>> >>I am just wondering are cemetaries on crown land ? >>> > >>> >The vast majority of cemeteries in Victoria are on Crown Land special >>> >purposes reserves. They appear on Victorian Parish maps as Cem. Res. with >>a >>> >file number, sometimes with the word Gaz. before it. That number is a >>> >multiple number/two numbers (eg 427/98), being the page and year of the >>> >Govt gazette where it was gazetted. (I am flying blind, it might be the >>> >other way around, but you know what I mean). >>> > >>> >I have found cemeteries on private land and in a recreation reserve, but >>> >this in rare. In my local area there are no churchyard cemeteries - I >>don't >>> >actually know of any in Victoria, but there may be some further away from >>me. >>> > >>> >In the past a number of Councils acted as the Cemetery Trust, but were >>> >still answerable to the state Health Dept Cemeteries Section. >>> > >>> >So yes, they are probably 90% at least state crown land in Victoria >>> > >>> >Cheers >>> > >>> >Linda >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> > >