Well what Bruce says is spot on. There are also many private homes on crown land (we have one of them!) in the North East goldfields. Back in the early 1900s the government "leased" the land to people and they paid a yearly rental plus paid the rates. This was encouragement to open up remote areas. However the leases were very one sided - ie they usually ran for at least 50 years and were renewable but strictly under the same terms - which was that the Govt could request you remove your house at any time. Until say 10 years ago the Govt could sell off this land to residents. Now no such sale can be made as huge areas are under native title claim. We have also been advised that we may either have to remove the house or that the title will be transferred to the local indigenous people and we would then pay them rent, on their terms and conditions. Either way, seems no prospect of buying the land outright. I know for a fact that under their land claim falls at one cemetary, possibly 3 in that area. Kat Wixøe -----Original Message----- From: bruce johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 5. mars 2005 03:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cemeteries on Crown land ok, this is more than water-cooler scuttlebutt, and i wanted a bit more time to pass on more info there has been a discussion document issued by the victorian bracks government via the DSE, called Indigenous land managment framework. The VIC GOV wants to give ALL victorian crown land to indigenous people. They inturn "may" lease some of the land back to the government, and then WE pay a fee to use or enter crown land, cemetery's, national parks,etc the list is endless. in the document statements already indicate that there are no agreements that all crown land will be leased back see page 24/26 This could be taken to extremes, when you look at the big picture you can view the document at www.dse.vic.gov.au you can comment on the document, even though it says the closeing date has passed At 12:37 PM 5/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Well Bruce, I for one would like a little bit more information than >just "it all may be given away this year". Crown land is land owned >and / or controlled by the Government (State or Federal). It can NOT be "given away" >without enormous repercussions. > >What about a little bit more information instead of just water-cooler >scuttlebutt? > >Without more credible information, I think we should all just take this >with a big grain of salt. > >Peter Ross > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bruce johnson" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:15 PM >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cemeteries on Crown land > > >> thank you linda for your reply >> i have an important reason for asking this question reguarding crown >> land as it all may be given away this year will post a bit more >> information soon cheers bruce >> >> >> >> >> At 06:42 PM 4/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >> >At 12:00 AM 4/03/05 -0700, Bruce wrote: >> > >> >>I am just wondering are cemetaries on crown land ? >> > >> >The vast majority of cemeteries in Victoria are on Crown Land >> >special purposes reserves. They appear on Victorian Parish maps as >> >Cem. Res. with >a >> >file number, sometimes with the word Gaz. before it. That number is >> >a multiple number/two numbers (eg 427/98), being the page and year >> >of the Govt gazette where it was gazetted. (I am flying blind, it >> >might be the other way around, but you know what I mean). >> > >> >I have found cemeteries on private land and in a recreation reserve, >> >but this in rare. In my local area there are no churchyard >> >cemeteries - I >don't >> >actually know of any in Victoria, but there may be some further away >> >from >me. >> > >> >In the past a number of Councils acted as the Cemetery Trust, but >> >were still answerable to the state Health Dept Cemeteries Section. >> > >> >So yes, they are probably 90% at least state crown land in Victoria >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >Linda >> > >> > >> > >