For those on the list who may be interested, I have finally completed the book "I was at the Kelly Gang Round-Up" The book tells the stories of Ned Kelly's hostages at the Glenrowan siege. The book is due for release on the 29th June 2007. Anyone who would like more information or a pre release order form you can contact Brad Webb at www.ironoutlaw.com, Noeleen Lloyd on noeleenlloyd@hotmail.com or myself at jdouthie@bigpond.net.au Regards Judy

Congratulations Judy! This will be a wonderful addition to not only the Kelly story but also that of the North East. A focus on the victims of the Kelly exploits over the years is long overdue. Kind regards, Jenny -----Original Message----- From: jdouthie@bigpond.net.au To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 6:18 PM Subject: [AVNE] Book release For those on the list who may be interested, I have finally completed the book "I was at the Kelly Gang Round-Up" The book tells the stories of Ned Kelly's hostages at the Glenrowan siege. The book is due for release on the 29th June 2007. Anyone who would like more information or a pre release order form you can contact Brad Webb at www.ironoutlaw.com, Noeleen Lloyd on noeleenlloyd@hotmail.com or myself at jdouthie@bigpond.net.au Regards Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

My thanks to Jackie and Robert for identifying the shire as Oxley. Apparently from the certificate, Oxley is a possible (though not certain) reading of the parish. So I think it is a fair guess to assume the place was Moyhu in the Shire of Oxley and not the first guess of Moyner/Moyher in the Shire of Cerley. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Could Cerley be Oxley? Moyhu is in the Shire of Oxley. >Jackie >Moyhu used to be in the Shire of Oxley, but is now correctly referred as the >Rural City of Wangaratta. >Robert

Hi Alan, I would love to have the list of the names of tunellers from the Beechworth RSL. If you have a name safe on it then that is a name I have not got on my list! I know you won't forget my photo, just get yourself fit and well for now. All the best. Regards Judy jdouthie@bigpond.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan French" <tipps@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Names of tunnellers WW1 > Hello Eric and Judy, > There is a framed list of tunnelers in WW > 1 > on the wall in the Beechworth R S L clubrooms, > I have a namesake on it, wonder if there is a > family > connection? Have not forgotten your photo, I have > had very painful neuralgia as a follow up to > shingles,starting to clear up a bit now so I will get a "round tuit". > > Regards > Alan French > > >

Hello List, Moyhu used to be in the Shire of Oxley, but is now correctly referred as the Rural City of Wangaratta. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "JackieC" <jackiecall@netspace.net.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Moyner? Shire of Cerley? > Peter, > Could Cerley be Oxley? Moyhu is in the Shire of Oxley. > Jackie > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Lakeman > Sent: Monday, 9 April 2007 11:13 AM > To: AUS-VIC-NE@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AVNE] Moyner? Shire of Cerley? > > > Hello again listers, > > One of the placenames in the list of Sharon's spares that I have just > mentioned looks something like Moyher or Moyner in the Shire of Cerley. > > According to the BDM the birth is listed as occurring at Wangaratta, > so it is in that vicinity. > > I am guessing that it should really be Moyhu (about 25km south of > Wangaratta). > > Does anyone have a birth or death cert for a rellie that would have > occurred in Moyhu in the 1890s? If so, can you please look and see if > Moyhu is in the Shire of Cerley, and whether there were spelling > variations for Moyhu? > > Thanks > > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/751 - Release Date: 4/7/2007 > 10:57 PM > >

Peter, Could Cerley be Oxley? Moyhu is in the Shire of Oxley. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Lakeman Sent: Monday, 9 April 2007 11:13 AM To: AUS-VIC-NE@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] Moyner? Shire of Cerley? Hello again listers, One of the placenames in the list of Sharon's spares that I have just mentioned looks something like Moyher or Moyner in the Shire of Cerley. According to the BDM the birth is listed as occurring at Wangaratta, so it is in that vicinity. I am guessing that it should really be Moyhu (about 25km south of Wangaratta). Does anyone have a birth or death cert for a rellie that would have occurred in Moyhu in the 1890s? If so, can you please look and see if Moyhu is in the Shire of Cerley, and whether there were spelling variations for Moyhu? Thanks Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again listers, One of the placenames in the list of Sharon's spares that I have just mentioned looks something like Moyher or Moyner in the Shire of Cerley. According to the BDM the birth is listed as occurring at Wangaratta, so it is in that vicinity. I am guessing that it should really be Moyhu (about 25km south of Wangaratta). Does anyone have a birth or death cert for a rellie that would have occurred in Moyhu in the 1890s? If so, can you please look and see if Moyhu is in the Shire of Cerley, and whether there were spelling variations for Moyhu? Thanks Peter

Hello again Listers, This time my thanks go to Sharon who has submitted her spare birth and death lookups. These are listed below and have also been uploaded to the website. If any of these are of interest to you, please go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/Spares/spares.html and click on the submitter's name on the right of the entry, which will open your email program. Or go to the above address and look at what others have also submitted. Thanks again Sharon. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Births ------ Cotton, Charles Clarence; Moyner?/Moyhu?/Wangaratta; 1-11-1891 Darcy, Jean Frances; Shepparton; 25-8-1918 Dennis, Leslie Henry; Shepparton; 29-8-1918 Forge, Ellen Elizabeth; Wangaratta; 3-5-1891 Laws, Dorothy May; Pine Lodge; 12-8-1918 McKenzie, Mary Ellen, Boorhaman; 3-5-1891 Morey, Reginald William; Shepparton 9-9-1918 Pratt, Rosina Elizabeth; Boggy Creek; 28-5-1891 Smith, James Henry; Shepparton; 30-9-1918 Woodberry, James Lewis; Wangaratta; 24-9-1891 Deaths ------ Baker, Henry George; Wangaratta Hosp.; 25-10-1910; 44 years Campbell, Olive Gertrude; Wangaratta; 4-11-1910; 32 years Darcy, Francis; Mooroopna Hosp.; 29-9-1916; 24 hours McKenzie, Alexander; Boorhaman; 31-10-1910; 57 years McKenzie, Mary; Rutherglen; 7-11-1909; 53 years Nott, Ella May; Rutherglen; 21-10-1909; 28 years O'Connor, Thomas; Mangalore; 30-3-1879; 4 yrs 10mths Owen, Meredith Jones; Rutherglen; 5-11-1909; 67 years Pitcher, Annie; Rutherglen; 27-10-1909; 60 years Rowe, Hazel Maria; Rutherglen; 8-11-1909; 7 months Rutherford, Allan; Wangaratta Hosp.; 17-11-1910; 63 years Shore, Phillip; Wangaratta; 10-11-1910; 57 years Tracey, Patrick; Mangalore; 13-6-1879; 4 yrs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jenny hi. Daniel Michael O'Connor (used the O'Connor version) son of Michael Connor and Annie Collins. Michael was born in Tipperary County Ireland and came to Australia via America. He had a brother John Connor. ------------- At the same time there was another Daniel O'Connor ( I believe he was Daniel Charles O'Connor) in Beechworth who was involved in various public bodies, I do not believe a connection to Michael Connor exists. I've just checked Pioneers of the Ovens & Townsmen of Beechworth for you Jenny and this Daniel was son of Daniel and Charlotte Elizabeth (Campbell). He did not marry. Regards Denise -- Hi Jenny Daniel Michael, the coachbuilder, is part of the American research Denise & I are starting to windup. I don't believe he descends from Daniel & Charlotte Campbell, but as he is part of Denise's clan, I'm sure when she gets back on line, shortly, she will be in touch. Chris On 03/04/2007, at 4:59 PM, jnnyb@aol.com wrote: > Hi listers, > > Is anyone researching the following: > > Daniel Michael O'CONNOR (coach builder) who died at Beechworth 25th > Feb 1897, son of Michael O'CONNOR & Annie COLLINS. > > Felix O'CONNOR (licensed victualler) died 16/4/1898, son of Felix. > > Michael O'CONNOR (priest) died 3/5/1906 aged 67. > > Seeking to eliminate or establish them in the family of O'CONNORS in > Beechworth who were descended from Daniel O'CONNOR & Charlotte > Elizabeth CAMPBELL. BDMS not needed thanks. > > Jenny > >

Does the following help? >From Memories of Oxley - Graham Jones "After Milawa, the road made its way across the plains until it reached the community around Tea Garden Creek. Travellers proceeding to Beechworth via the Pioneer Crossing would find the Pioneer Hotel, conducted by an Englishman, John Moon; while traffic heading for Whorouly, via Henley's Gap, were greeted by the Whorouly Hotel, owned by Michael Dodd." Jackie -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of cross-stitch@ozzienet.net Sent: Friday, 8 June 2007 12:43 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] Pioneer Hotel Hello Bruce, Unfortunately neither Mum or I have been able to locate any possible location for the Pioneer Hotel in relation to Tea Garden Creek. We do know that a history of Markwood book was released some time last year but cannot recall the name/s of the author/s. Perhaps someone else in the group knows more as the book could be of help to you. I will keep it in mind as I continue my own research and if I find anything I will let you know. regards Dianne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi thanks bronwen, i would be very interested in any information on the pioneer hotel, i have been looking for a long time for the location of the building and if it still stands, i beleive it became a private house back in the 1920's ----- Original Message ----- From: "bronwen" <bronwens2@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Pioneer Hotel > There are two books published on Markwood. I will look into it for you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/751 - Release Date: 7/04/2007 10:57 PM > >

There are two books published on Markwood. I will look into it for you.

Hello Bruce, Unfortunately neither Mum or I have been able to locate any possible location for the Pioneer Hotel in relation to Tea Garden Creek. We do know that a history of Markwood book was released some time last year but cannot recall the name/s of the author/s. Perhaps someone else in the group knows more as the book could be of help to you. I will keep it in mind as I continue my own research and if I find anything I will let you know. regards Dianne

Hello Eric and Judy, There is a framed list of tunnelers in WW 1 on the wall in the Beechworth R S L clubrooms, I have a namesake on it, wonder if there is a family connection? Have not forgotten your photo, I have had very painful neuralgia as a follow up to shingles,starting to clear up a bit now so I will get a "round tuit". Regards Alan French

Hi Lesley, I saw your recent email re the John MILNE for whom Judy was looking, however, he is not the one buried in Beechworth cemetery. He was the son of Edward and Ellen Milne from Myrtleford. My maiden name was MILNE so I would be very interested to hear where your mother's family fits in, if she does... There were at least three different MILNE families in the N/E in the early days. I am searching for a John MILNE who disappeared (probably died) somewhere between 1850 and 1874 - if she can be of any help it would be fantastic. Cheers, Wendy

Hi Lesley, Thanks to Wendy I have some information on John Milne but I am having trouble finding out who exactly is the William Smith I need to research. There are just too many William Smith's! As soon as I have additional information I will let you know. Regards Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "lesley kiker" <siamjo2002@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:44 PM Subject: [AVNE] female patients....& Beechworth tunnellers > Most female patients that died at the hospital were buried in unmarked > graves in the Beechworth Cemetery.. Only those that were in contact with > their immediate families were buried elsewhere... > > > Judy, > > There is a Jack Smith living in Diffey Rd Beechworth, he is an elderly > gent and had brothers... Also there were Smiths that lived in Bridge > Rd...some of their families still live in the area.. > > Also unsure whether the John Milne is the same one, but my great uncle > was a John Milne. will have to ask Mum if she knows any details on him.. > I know he is buried in the Beechworth Cemetery, Presbyterian section.. > > Regards Lesley > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com >

Hi Jenny Daniel Michael, the coachbuilder, is part of the American research Denise & I are starting to windup. I don't believe he descends from Daniel & Charlotte Campbell, but as he is part of Denise's clan, I'm sure when she gets back on line, shortly, she will be in touch. Chris On 03/04/2007, at 4:59 PM, jnnyb@aol.com wrote: > Hi listers, > > Is anyone researching the following: > > Daniel Michael O'CONNOR (coach builder) who died at Beechworth > 25th Feb 1897, son of Michael O'CONNOR & Annie COLLINS. > > Felix O'CONNOR (licensed victualler) died 16/4/1898, son of Felix. > > Michael O'CONNOR (priest) died 3/5/1906 aged 67. > > Seeking to eliminate or establish them in the family of O'CONNORS > in Beechworth who were descended from Daniel O'CONNOR & Charlotte > Elizabeth CAMPBELL. BDMS not needed thanks. > > Jenny > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi listers, Is anyone researching the following: Daniel Michael O'CONNOR (coach builder) who died at Beechworth 25th Feb 1897, son of Michael O'CONNOR & Annie COLLINS. Felix O'CONNOR (licensed victualler) died 16/4/1898, son of Felix. Michael O'CONNOR (priest) died 3/5/1906 aged 67. Seeking to eliminate or establish them in the family of O'CONNORS in Beechworth who were descended from Daniel O'CONNOR & Charlotte Elizabeth CAMPBELL. BDMS not needed thanks. Jenny ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Most female patients that died at the hospital were buried in unmarked graves in the Beechworth Cemetery.. Only those that were in contact with their immediate families were buried elsewhere... Judy, There is a Jack Smith living in Diffey Rd Beechworth, he is an elderly gent and had brothers... Also there were Smiths that lived in Bridge Rd...some of their families still live in the area.. Also unsure whether the John Milne is the same one, but my great uncle was a John Milne. will have to ask Mum if she knows any details on him.. I know he is buried in the Beechworth Cemetery, Presbyterian section.. Regards Lesley Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Bruce The Tea Garden Creek is on the Markwood side of Pioneer Bridges (Ovens River) rather than in the township of Everton. I found a mention of a flour mill being built on the Tea Garden Creek at the site of the current township of Markwood. So perhaps the hotel was in that area. The name is familiar to Mum so she is going to see if she can track it down in some references she has. Stay tuned .... regards Dianne