Hi Ian, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. At this stage I can't answer your question. I've looked at the appropriate October 1863 O & M Advertiser newspapers as she was meant to be tried at Beechworth in a Circuit Court sitting but there was nothing in the newspaper. Am about to get hold of a copy of the Criminal Trial Brief Register for that particular sitting - it should tell me if the trial went ahead and what the result was. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ian Foster Sent: Saturday, 23 June 2007 9:04 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Christina BELL - Attempted Murder Was she, or any of her offspring married to a Chinese man/woman. It sounds a bit familiar. Ian >From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> >Reply-To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com >To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [AVNE] Christina BELL - Attempted Murder >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:56:50 +1000 > >Evening All, > >Does anyone have a Christina BELL in their tree? I don't know much about >her >except that she was living in Jamieson some time in 1863 and was tried for >attempted murder in the Beechworth Circuit Court in October 1863. Don't >know >yet any circumstances regarding the trial or who she attempted to murder - >will look at the O & M newspapers at the Burke Museum on Monday. > >Please get back to me if the name sounds familiar. > >Anne > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/862 - Release Date: 22/06/2007 >3:04 PM > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Ministry of Sound's Sessions 4 has arrived. Have a listen! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=788&referr al=hotmailtagline&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/playlist.aspx?sectionid=24 65&sectionname=artistfeature&subsectionid=9961&subsectionname=sessions4&cate goryid=2602 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/863 - Release Date: 23/06/2007 11:08 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/872 - Release Date: 26/06/2007 6:43 PM

Births: GERRY - At Stanley, on the 16th May, the wife of Mr. William G. Gerry of a son. LOEL - At his residence, Conness Street, Chiltern on the 12th May, the wife of Mr. A. Loel, of a son. ROBINSON - At Ford Street, Beechworth, on the 22nd April, the wife of Mr. George Robinson of twins - son and daughter. ROPER - At Kirby's Flat, Yackandandah, on the 30th April, Mrs. W.H. Roper, of a daughter. Marriages: HYNDMAN-JOHNSON - On the 7th inst., at St. John's Church, Launceston, William Moody Hyndman, Esq, Oriental Bank, Beechworth, second son of Robert August Hyndman Esq, solicitor, Dublin to Matilda, eldest daughter of William Johnson, Esq, of Launceston. Deaths: BARR - At Finch street, Beechworth on the 8th instant, Mrs Isabella Barr, relict of the late William Barr of Glasgow, aged 59 years. BLEWITT - On the 7th instant, at Rosehill Dairy, Beechworth, after a lingering illness, John W Blewitt, the infant son of the late Mr John W. Blewitt, formerly of Penzance, Cornwall, aged 7 months. DARVALL - On the 20th May, Emma, wife of Mr. C.G. Darvall, Beechworth, aged 24 years. FERGUSON - At the residence of his father, Indigo Creek, on the 24th April, Mr John Ferguson (formerly of the firm of Brydie and Ferguson, North Melbourne), after a long and lingering illness. McGUIRE - on the evening of the 15th inst., Mr Patrick McGuire, Ovens River. Aged 42 years. Cheers Anne Hanson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/872 - Release Date: 26/06/2007 6:43 PM

DALTON - On the 30th May at William Street, Beechworth, the wife of Mr. William Dalton, of a Son. DREYER - On the 31st May, at Loch Street, Beechworth, Mrs Fred Dreyer of a Son. MURPHY - On the 23rd March at Belfast, North of Ireland, the wife of Washington Murphy, Esq., M.D., J P, of a Daughter. Cheers Anne Hanson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/872 - Release Date: 26/06/2007 6:43 PM

THE LATE FATAL ACCIDENT AT YACKANDANDAH The body of Mr Smith, whose sudden death we noticed in our last, was recovered on Tuesday morning, after a considerable amount of labour in which many of the neighbouring miners assisted. From the position in which the body was found, it would appear, that two of the logs which form the roof of the tunnel, were forced down before him, thus cutting of the unfortunate man's escape. The immediate cause of death was suffocation, as there were no marks or bruises on the body, and one arm being thrown before the face as if in a last vain effort to keep of the accumulated sand. An inquest was held the same afternoon, by Mr Warden Lane, which resulted in a verdict, in accordance with the facts of the case. Note: >From the Vic Inquest Index I think Mr. Smith, was a William SMITH, aged 35, a miner from Yack. Cheers Anne Hanson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/872 - Release Date: 26/06/2007 6:43 PM

Evening All, Does anyone have a Christina BELL in their tree? I don't know much about her except that she was living in Jamieson some time in 1863 and was tried for attempted murder in the Beechworth Circuit Court in October 1863. Don't know yet any circumstances regarding the trial or who she attempted to murder - will look at the O & M newspapers at the Burke Museum on Monday. Please get back to me if the name sounds familiar. Anne No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/862 - Release Date: 22/06/2007 3:04 PM

Was she, or any of her offspring married to a Chinese man/woman. It sounds a bit familiar. Ian >From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> >Reply-To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com >To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [AVNE] Christina BELL - Attempted Murder >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:56:50 +1000 > >Evening All, > >Does anyone have a Christina BELL in their tree? I don't know much about >her >except that she was living in Jamieson some time in 1863 and was tried for >attempted murder in the Beechworth Circuit Court in October 1863. Don't >know >yet any circumstances regarding the trial or who she attempted to murder - >will look at the O & M newspapers at the Burke Museum on Monday. > >Please get back to me if the name sounds familiar. > >Anne > > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/862 - Release Date: 22/06/2007 >3:04 PM > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Ministry of Sound's Sessions 4 has arrived. Have a listen! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=788&referral=hotmailtagline&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/playlist.aspx?sectionid=2465&sectionname=artistfeature&subsectionid=9961&subsectionname=sessions4&categoryid=2602

Hello Elizabeth Yes, Vic death certs ask how long in the colony. No transcription services - NSW is the only state that currently has them though I did hear another state is getting one. You get to download immediately on line these dys once you give your credit card details - or you can wait for snail mail - might cost more that way but you can get it stamped certified true copy... Certainly it looks likely the family was in the Albury Wodonga area but can't be definite about it. It might be the same situation all along the Murray. Can't help with anything else, sorry. Good luck! Bye Dawn (Melbourne) -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Roberts Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:27 AM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] Married NSW registered Victoria Hi, I am researching the Clare Family, more precisely Arnold Clare per Speke also recorded as(Arnot/Arnott/Archibald) who had been a Convict Overseer on the Great North Road and was the overseer responsible for building grandest bridge on the road. It appears he went to Victoria where he married and was listed as a house carpenter. He ended up buying a house block in Albury. He had a son Peter born 1850 who was baptized out of Albury. When he died in 1861 there is no record in the index of where the event occurred [age transcribed incorrectly as 34 instead of 54. But a Peter Clare married in 1874 and the index states Peter Clare married Mary Ann Edhouse 1874 Married NSW reg Victoria. My questions: i)For people experienced in researching in this area does this suggest the family stayed in Albury ? ii)are there any records of residents in the Albury/Wogonda area for the period 1850 -1862? iii) is anyone related to this family ? iv) do Victorian death certificates ask the length of time in Australia ? v) is there a transcription service for Victorian Certificates where I can request one or two fields only for a lesser fee ? As I am researching Arnold Clare for a article for the Great North Road journal the Pick I am trying to avoid spending money buying the death certificate if I can, I have read the marriage and baptism records in the NSW pre 1856 BDM microfilm of the transcribed church records. Kind regards Elizabeth Roberts ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/854 - Release Date: 19/06/2007 1:12 PM

Hi, I am researching the Clare Family, more precisely Arnold Clare per Speke also recorded as(Arnot/Arnott/Archibald) who had been a Convict Overseer on the Great North Road and was the overseer responsible for building grandest bridge on the road. It appears he went to Victoria where he married and was listed as a house carpenter. He ended up buying a house block in Albury. He had a son Peter born 1850 who was baptized out of Albury. When he died in 1861 there is no record in the index of where the event occurred [age transcribed incorrectly as 34 instead of 54. But a Peter Clare married in 1874 and the index states Peter Clare married Mary Ann Edhouse 1874 Married NSW reg Victoria. My questions: i)For people experienced in researching in this area does this suggest the family stayed in Albury ? ii)are there any records of residents in the Albury/Wogonda area for the period 1850 -1862? iii) is anyone related to this family ? iv) do Victorian death certificates ask the length of time in Australia ? v) is there a transcription service for Victorian Certificates where I can request one or two fields only for a lesser fee ? As I am researching Arnold Clare for a article for the Great North Road journal the Pick I am trying to avoid spending money buying the death certificate if I can, I have read the marriage and baptism records in the NSW pre 1856 BDM microfilm of the transcribed church records. Kind regards Elizabeth Roberts

Hi Elizabeth, Re: "But a Peter Clare married in 1874 and the index states Peter Clare married Mary Ann Edhouse 1874 Married NSW reg Victoria." This is is a common mistake with Victorian marriages. The place recorded is "Birthplace". i.e. of Mary Ann Edhouse . If you search for the reverse, that is, Peter Clare married Mary Ann Edhouse, you find the place is listed as Alburry (sic). No Victorian marriage indexes give the actual place of marriage. All you can tell is it did occur somewhere in Victoria! Jenny ?? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

The following was transcribed from the Victorian Police Gazette, 9th February 1855. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MR. THOMAS HUNTER was, on the 23rd ultimo, at Reid's Creek, Beechworth, robbed of a cheque for £200 on the Bank of New York, by an American black, who is about 5 feet 11 inches in height, stout make, and short curly hair, a scar from the second point of the thumb left hand across the palm, received in America, in 1849, in fighting; had on when last seen a pair of black trousers, blue body shirt, and a red one outside, with California hat. MR. HUNTER offers £50 reward upon conviction of the offender. ERRATUM—Vide Crime. Report, 2nd instant. Robbery, District of Beechworth, Victoria: Mr. Thomas Hunter was robbed of a cheque on the Bank of New York for £2000, not £200, as stated. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks Peter Actually I did that. I assumed that, as the unsubbing would be done in the last couple of hours most likely, I would still appear as subbed on the rootsweb site, at lest for a few days. Perhaps it is instantaneous? Dawn -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Lakeman Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2007 5:55 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] testing Hello listers, There is a much easier and quicker way to see if one is still subbed to any of the Rootsweb lists. Go to http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ enter your email address, tick the "To which lists am I subscribed?", and click the box at the bottom of the page. Rootsweb then email you a list of all the lists you are subbed to. If you can't remember the URL, there is a link to the Passwords page at the top of nearly all rootsweb.com webpages. Cheers Peter List admin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/851 - Release Date: 16/06/2007 12:50 PM

Hello listers, There is a much easier and quicker way to see if one is still subbed to any of the Rootsweb lists. Go to http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ enter your email address, tick the "To which lists am I subscribed?", and click the box at the bottom of the page. Rootsweb then email you a list of all the lists you are subbed to. If you can't remember the URL, there is a link to the Passwords page at the top of nearly all rootsweb.com webpages. Cheers Peter List admin

Testing - I may have been automatically unsubbed due to being sent one large email from someone unconnected to any mailing lists - it came through about 20 times! I deleted it from the mail box on line, but then it came through another umpteen times. Four of them was over the limit on my mail inbox so all else would bounce - I should have about 100 emails right now and only have a couple other than this repeated ad infinitum large email! If this does not appear then I will have to re-sub. Dawn

The Wodonga Family History Soc Inc is holding a seminar in conjunction with VAFHO {The Victorian Federation of Family History Organisations}. The title of the seminar is "DIVERSE DEATHLY DETAILS" and deals with different aspects of death in family history: Subjects: 1> "Fitzroy & Funerals-a Look at the Robert K. Cole Collection of Hotel Records at the State Library of Victoria" .{ Anne Burrows, Genealogy Librarian, State Library of Victoria} 2> "Finding Thomas-Serendipity" {Di Christensen, VAFHO Secretary} 3> "A Grave Look at Cemeteries" {Jenny Harkness, VAFHO President} 4> "Death in the Archives" {Shauna Hicks, Senior Manager, Access Services, Public Record Office, Victoria} 5> "Till Death us do Part-Women's Responses to Dying, Death and Bereavement in Nineteenth Century Victoria" {Don Wickam, Social historian and researcher} 6> "Causes of Death-an explanation and pronunciation of medical terminology" {Dr Peter Prideaux} People are encouraged to bring along death certificates and questions for this last talk. About 40 minutes will be devoted to VAFHO's AGM before lunch. Date: Saturday 1st September 2007 Time: 9am registration. Commences 9.30am. Finishes 4pm Place: Voelker Hall, Voelker Crt [off Silva Drive], Wodonga Cost: $25.00. Early Bird booked and paid by 1st August $20.00 [includes morning and afternoon teas, and lunch] Postal address: Wodonga Family History Soc Inc., PO Box 289, Wodonga 3689 For further information, please contact: Doreen on 0260 560 926 Wendy Cooksey, Hon Secretary, Wodonga Family History Soc Inc

Hi Doug, Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Surname: SHERIDAN Given Names: Beatrice Edith Event: B Sex: F Father: Geo Mother: Edith May HULME Birth Place: OXLEY Year: 1897 Reg. Number: 5610 Edith HULME (b. 1875 Stanley) was a daughter of William Cluff HULME and Sarah WARD. regards Kaye At 09:47 PM 7/06/2007 +1000, you wrote: > Hi Researcher's > I am looking for the Parents of Beatrice Edith (Brice) Sheridan who married > 12 May 1920 Wilfred McDonald (Duke) Gardner son of Colin Gardner and Mary > (Polly) Smith.Can anyone please help me ? > Thank > Doug MacLaren-Smith Alstonville NSW 2477 > Researching following families. > SMITH abt 1828 Glasgow Sct Melb Vic Castlemaine, Wooragee Oxley Plains > Milawa > Waddell 1806 Glasgow Milawa Vic > Wilson abt 1830 Scotland Milawa Vic > Ferguson abt 1840 Ayrshire Sct Milawa vic > Gardner 1835 Boness Sct Milawa Vic > Newth 1857 Tarrawingee Vic16/11/2005 > Edwards 1858 Wooragee Vic > Kerr 1860 Beechworth Vic > McInnes 1840 Mortloch Banff Sct Whitfield Oxley Wangaratta > Gillespie abt 1841 Ardgous Argyll Sct Whifield Oxley Wangaratta > Beer 1767 Devenshire Eng. Sturt SA Tylden Echuca Vic Moana NSW > MacLaren/McLaurin 1800 Rattray Sct Echuca Moama > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kaye Patterson kayep13@bigpond.net.au

Doug Could this be your lady? Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Surname: SHERIDAN Given Names: Beatrice Edith Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Geo Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Edith May HULME Age: Age Code: Birth Place: OXLEY Death Place: Year: 1897 Reg. Number: 5610 Pamela S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug MacLaren-Smith" <dougmaclaren-smith@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: [AVNE] Fw: Brice Sheridan > > > Hi Researcher's > I am looking for the Parents of Beatrice Edith (Brice) Sheridan who > married > 12 May 1920 Wilfred McDonald (Duke) Gardner son of Colin Gardner and Mary > (Polly) Smith.Can anyone please help me ? > Thank > Doug MacLaren-Smith Alstonville NSW 2477 > Researching following families. > SMITH abt 1828 Glasgow Sct Melb Vic Castlemaine, Wooragee Oxley Plains > Milawa > Waddell 1806 Glasgow Milawa Vic > Wilson abt 1830 Scotland Milawa Vic > Ferguson abt 1840 Ayrshire Sct Milawa vic > Gardner 1835 Boness Sct Milawa Vic > Newth 1857 Tarrawingee Vic16/11/2005 > Edwards 1858 Wooragee Vic > Kerr 1860 Beechworth Vic > McInnes 1840 Mortloch Banff Sct Whitfield Oxley Wangaratta > Gillespie abt 1841 Ardgous Argyll Sct Whifield Oxley Wangaratta > Beer 1767 Devenshire Eng. Sturt SA Tylden Echuca Vic Moana NSW > MacLaren/McLaurin 1800 Rattray Sct Echuca Moama > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Researcher's I am looking for the Parents of Beatrice Edith (Brice) Sheridan who married 12 May 1920 Wilfred McDonald (Duke) Gardner son of Colin Gardner and Mary (Polly) Smith.Can anyone please help me ? Thank Doug MacLaren-Smith Alstonville NSW 2477 Researching following families. SMITH abt 1828 Glasgow Sct Melb Vic Castlemaine, Wooragee Oxley Plains Milawa Waddell 1806 Glasgow Milawa Vic Wilson abt 1830 Scotland Milawa Vic Ferguson abt 1840 Ayrshire Sct Milawa vic Gardner 1835 Boness Sct Milawa Vic Newth 1857 Tarrawingee Vic16/11/2005 Edwards 1858 Wooragee Vic Kerr 1860 Beechworth Vic McInnes 1840 Mortloch Banff Sct Whitfield Oxley Wangaratta Gillespie abt 1841 Ardgous Argyll Sct Whifield Oxley Wangaratta Beer 1767 Devenshire Eng. Sturt SA Tylden Echuca Vic Moana NSW MacLaren/McLaurin 1800 Rattray Sct Echuca Moama

Hello Listers, My thanks to Rhonda who has submitted more spare death lookups. These are listed below and have also been uploaded to the website. If any of these are of interest to you, please go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/Spares/spares.html and click on the submitter's name on the right of the entry, which will open your email program. Or go to the above address and look at what others have also submitted. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deaths ~~~~~~ Surname: Flesh First Name: Emma Place: Kilfeera, Benalla Date of death 27th Feb 1911 Age: 76 years Surname: Mitchell First name: Ernest John Place: Benalla Date of death: 12th March 1911 Age: 3 weeks

Good Evening, I am looking for a timetable or something similar for Bevan & Co Stagecoach Co. 1863 - the route being Mansfield to Jamieson. Any bright ideas on how to obtain same would be most welcome. Ta. Anne H. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/832 - Release Date: 4/06/2007 6:43 PM

Thank you Judy, the snippetts were great, look forward to the next lot. Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric and Judy Douthie" <jdouthie@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: [AVNE] last line from old newspapers post > The last line of my last post should have read, I hope someone found > something to add to THEIR tree. > > I am pleased the snippetts were enjoyed. I will have to try and find some > more for you all. > > Regards > Judy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message