Thanks Peter, as usual you are right - I've just checked the book you refer to below and yes, it was obviously some sort of mens' club. Oh by the way, if anyone is interested in the history of Beechworth prison I got hold of a book yesterday called 'H.M. Prison Beechworth, The End of an Era, 1856 - 2004.' It is an interesting little book and is not terribly complimentary of Castieau in parts. The book was published by Corrections Victoria in March 2006. My only criticism would be that while there is a Table of Contents there is no Index which just drives me crazy. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Ross Sent: Friday, 6 July 2007 1:14 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Garrick Club Beechworth Anne, I think Castieau mentions it fairly early in his book (the one I borrowed from you). I think he was a founding member of the club when he was Governor of Beechworth Prison. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: [AVNE] Garrick Club Beechworth > Good Evening All > > Am just wondering if some one can tell me what the Garrick Club in > Beechworth was all about. Seems to have been in existence in Beechworth in > the 1860s. > > Thanks. > > Anne H. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 4/07/2007 > 1:40 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 112 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/887 - Release Date: 5/07/2007 1:55 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/887 - Release Date: 5/07/2007 1:55 PM

yes that could be a fair statement, my last run in with a snake at reedy creek was a nasty brown. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel M Reynen" <fcfibre2@bigpond.com> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens&MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > However they are not found around Sebastopol. More likely a brown or a tiger > in that area, given the date maybe all snakes were seen as death adders? > Carmel > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tia McCombes > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:07 PM > To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens > &MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > > Hi all, Yes the Death adder is an extremly venomous Australian snake. There > was a man killed in NSW within the last 6 months by one, sorry I can't > narrow it down, but it was on the ABC news in Canberra. He thought that a > dog was harrassing a blue tongue lizard and after calling off the dog he > picked up the "lizard" to see if it had been injured. The snake bit him and > he died soon after. > > Here is a link of information about the snake for those interested. > http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animals.asp?catID=16&ID=106 > > Have a good day > > Tia in raining (finally) Canberra > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: bruce johnson <brucej@alphalink.com.au> > To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 12:08:46 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & > MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > > > oz has about 7-8 realy deadly snakes, if i remember my > old school days the death adder is a small snake but very deadly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> > To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & > MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > > > > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very > narrow > > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears > that > > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated > he > > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off > but > > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite > of > > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra > de > > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it > in > > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > > length for these noxious animals ... > > > > > > Anne Hanson > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > > 3:35 PM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 > 10:02 AM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited > storage on all webmail accounts. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/887 - Release Date: 5/07/2007 1:55 PM > >

Anne, I think Castieau mentions it fairly early in his book (the one I borrowed from you). I think he was a founding member of the club when he was Governor of Beechworth Prison. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: [AVNE] Garrick Club Beechworth > Good Evening All > > Am just wondering if some one can tell me what the Garrick Club in > Beechworth was all about. Seems to have been in existence in Beechworth in > the 1860s. > > Thanks. > > Anne H. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 4/07/2007 > 1:40 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 112 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

There was a Garrick club in London a men club, founded 1831, I would suspect the Beechworth one was modeled on or a spoof of the London club. Google Garrick club. The club still exists in London. There may be reference to the Beechworth Garrick club in their archives. Regards Elizabeth Roberts -----Original Message----- Today's Topics: 1. Garrick Club Beechworth (Anne Hanson)

Good Heavens, Tia - what a dreadful story. Anne H. -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Tia McCombes Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 6:07 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens &MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 Hi all, Yes the Death adder is an extremly venomous Australian snake. There was a man killed in NSW within the last 6 months by one, sorry I can't narrow it down, but it was on the ABC news in Canberra. He thought that a dog was harrassing a blue tongue lizard and after calling off the dog he picked up the "lizard" to see if it had been injured. The snake bit him and he died soon after. Here is a link of information about the snake for those interested. http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animals.asp?catID=16&ID=106 Have a good day Tia in raining (finally) Canberra ----- Original Message ---- From: bruce johnson <brucej@alphalink.com.au> To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 12:08:46 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 oz has about 7-8 realy deadly snakes, if i remember my old school days the death adder is a small snake but very deadly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 10:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 4/07/2007 1:40 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 4/07/2007 1:40 PM

However they are not found around Sebastopol. More likely a brown or a tiger in that area, given the date maybe all snakes were seen as death adders? Carmel -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tia McCombes Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:07 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens &MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 Hi all, Yes the Death adder is an extremly venomous Australian snake. There was a man killed in NSW within the last 6 months by one, sorry I can't narrow it down, but it was on the ABC news in Canberra. He thought that a dog was harrassing a blue tongue lizard and after calling off the dog he picked up the "lizard" to see if it had been injured. The snake bit him and he died soon after. Here is a link of information about the snake for those interested. http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animals.asp?catID=16&ID=106 Have a good day Tia in raining (finally) Canberra ----- Original Message ---- From: bruce johnson <brucej@alphalink.com.au> To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 12:08:46 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 oz has about 7-8 realy deadly snakes, if i remember my old school days the death adder is a small snake but very deadly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 10:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Evening All Am just wondering if some one can tell me what the Garrick Club in Beechworth was all about. Seems to have been in existence in Beechworth in the 1860s. Thanks. Anne H. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 4/07/2007 1:40 PM

Hi all, Yes the Death adder is an extremly venomous Australian snake. There was a man killed in NSW within the last 6 months by one, sorry I can't narrow it down, but it was on the ABC news in Canberra. He thought that a dog was harrassing a blue tongue lizard and after calling off the dog he picked up the "lizard" to see if it had been injured. The snake bit him and he died soon after. Here is a link of information about the snake for those interested. http://www.reptilepark.com.au/animals.asp?catID=16&ID=106 Have a good day Tia in raining (finally) Canberra ----- Original Message ---- From: bruce johnson <brucej@alphalink.com.au> To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 12:08:46 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 oz has about 7-8 realy deadly snakes, if i remember my old school days the death adder is a small snake but very deadly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 10:02 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

oz has about 7-8 realy deadly snakes, if i remember my old school days the death adder is a small snake but very deadly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 3/07/2007 10:02 AM > >

Yes, Peter I too wonder if it really was a death adder - whatever that maybe! Anne -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Peter Ross Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2007 8:17 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens &MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 Funny to think about it now, but it could well have been a Blue Tongue Lizard! All such creatures were regarded as "noxious animals" by newcomers. The OMA was not averse to doing a bit of a "beat-up" on these sensational stories either, were they? At least it demonstrated the value of "strong trousers and a strong pair of boots" for fellers in 1863. More value even than a shed. I hope the Burke Museum fed the poor thing at least? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very > narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears > that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated > he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off > but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite > of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra > de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it > in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 107 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 3:35 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 3:35 PM

Funny to think about it now, but it could well have been a Blue Tongue Lizard! All such creatures were regarded as "noxious animals" by newcomers. The OMA was not averse to doing a bit of a "beat-up" on these sensational stories either, were they? At least it demonstrated the value of "strong trousers and a strong pair of boots" for fellers in 1863. More value even than a shed. I hope the Burke Museum fed the poor thing at least? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <ahanson8@bigpond.com> To: "AUS-VIC-NE-L" <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] Daniel FARRELL & the Death Adder - From the Ovens & MurrayAdvertiser July 23 1863 > NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER > > A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very > narrow > escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears > that > Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the > bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of > underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated > he > turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his > heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off > but > it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong > pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite > of > these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra > de > capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of > the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless > attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it > in > a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke > Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual > length for these noxious animals ... > > > Anne Hanson > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 > 3:35 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 107 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Alan, If you like could you e-mail me off list at ahanson8@bigpond.com and give the name of the 'Boss' etc. so I could follow up in the O & M. I have just posted the O & M article on the list. And thanks for the info re Rosehill etc. Cheers Anne -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Alan French Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2007 4:05 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Births,Marriage & Deaths from Ovens & Murray Advertiser Saturday June231863 Hello again Anne, Thanks for your reply to my post, re the snake perhaps it may have been a copperhead mistaken for a death adder, they are a quiet sort of a snake will just lie there while you walk over or past them, I remember them from the days when I did a bit of apple picking in Stanley many years ago. "Rosehill"? roses must have been popular in the early days of settlement, fairly easy to transport and propagate,and handled the climate fairly well , also they were probably a memory of "Home".The Nankervis property at Wooragee " was originally "Rosebank"probably from when Graham and Wilson built the stone house in the 1860,s. Anne somewhere in the Beechworth papers there is the story of the gruesome murder in what I think was a wine shanty or similar at Wooragee,seems that on occasions when the "Boss" was away his wife had a gentleman friend who came and "helped out". Unfortunately the "Boss" arrived home without prior notice of his coming and found a situation a little more than friendly, as a result he was murdered, chopped up with a tomahawk, and cremated in his own fireplace. Edgar Passey ,I think, has a reference to it in one of his more recent books. A good friend had the story and was going to give me a copy, unfortunately as with so many of my "mates" she is no longer with us to dabble in history. Back to the roses they were responsible for the sweet briars that infested the Wooragee valley right up to the 1940,s when 2 4 D became available, apparently they came from the rootstocks used to propagate the roses. Regards Alan French ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 30/06/2007 3:10 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 3:35 PM

NARROW ESCAPE FROM A DEATH ADDER A dairyman, named Daniel Farrell, living below Sebastopol, had a very narrow escape a few days since from being bitten by a death adder. It appears that Mr. Farrell, whilst felling a tree, felt something as if pulling at the bottom of his trousers. At first, believing it preceded from a branch of underwood, he took no notice of it, but on finding this pulling repeated he turned round and to his horror, perceived this deadly viper biting at his heel. With a cry of terror, he swung round the axe and knocked him off but it was to the circumstances of his having on strong trousers and a strong pair of boots, his escape from a frightful death was mainly due. The bite of these reptiles is as swift and fatal in its effects as that of the cobra de capello, and it is lucky for us that they are not numerous in this part of the Colony and are so sluggish by nature that they seldom bite unless attacked or trodden on. Farrell took the reptile home, having secured it in a forked stick and it is to be hoped it will find its way to the Burke Museum. It is described as being 20 inches long but that is a very unusual length for these noxious animals ... Anne Hanson No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 3:35 PM

Thanks Rhonda, I hope Alan saw your e-mail. Anne -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Ronda Shambrook Sent: Sunday, 1 July 2007 9:19 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Births,Marriage & Deaths from Ovens & Murray Advertiser Saturday June231863 Hello Alan & Anne, The mother of the little BLEWETT baby was Hannah Jane BLEWETT (nee BREWER). Hannah's husband John BLEWETT died in Melbourne when the baby was only weeks old. John BLEWETT came from Penzance (son of Gabriel BLEWETT). Hannah Jane BLEWETT nee BREWER then married widower, Walter PAULL. One of their sons was named William Brewer PAULL. Yackandandah Times April 15 1915 The death occurred on Sunday night of Mrs Paull aged 79 years at her residence near Lake Harvey. Deceased had been a resident of the district for many years and leaves a family of grown up sons. Her husband pre-deceased her some twenty years ago. The funeral took place on Tuesday. Mr J.F. McDermott carrying out the mortuary arrangements. Yackandandah Times May 29th 1925 William B. Paull The death occurred on 26th May of Mr. William B. Paull, late of Lake Harvey, Yackandandah, at the age of 56 years. Deceased, who followed the occupation of road contractor, was a man of strong physique until about a year ago, when he broke down in health and contracted pneumonia from which he died. He leaves a widow and three daughters to mourn their loss. The remains were interred in the Yackandandah cemetery on Tuesday in the presence of a number of friends and acquaintances. The Rev W.J. Alexander officiated at the graveside. All the best, Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan French" <tipps@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Births,Marriage & Deaths from Ovens & Murray Advertiser Saturday June231863 > Hello Anne, > The Rosehill Dairy was at the restored old Brewer home on > the Beechworth - Wooragee road at one time it had > " Rising Sun" on the gate, the" Rising Sun" was much further down > the road, that was the "Long Hill " > John Brewer operated the milk delivery round from there, he milked cows at > Wooragee ,took the milk there in the evening > and put the cans in the spring in the paddock to keep it cool overnight, > legend was that if milk production was a bit low a > bit of pure spring water may leak into the cans over night. > I wonder if the Blewitt's were part of the Brewer clan they came from > Penzance as my ancestors did,John Brewer and my > Great Grand Father married sisters of Richard Warren. I wonder too if the > little one is buried there as they were in Wooragee, perhaps just one > more > long forgotten grave. There is a photo of the Brewer home and family in > the > Burke > Museum. > Regards, > Alan French > > > . > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 30/06/2007 3:10 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/884 - Release Date: 2/07/2007 3:35 PM

Hello Alan & Anne, The mother of the little BLEWETT baby was Hannah Jane BLEWETT (nee BREWER). Hannah's husband John BLEWETT died in Melbourne when the baby was only weeks old. John BLEWETT came from Penzance (son of Gabriel BLEWETT). Hannah Jane BLEWETT nee BREWER then married widower, Walter PAULL. One of their sons was named William Brewer PAULL. Yackandandah Times April 15 1915 The death occurred on Sunday night of Mrs Paull aged 79 years at her residence near Lake Harvey. Deceased had been a resident of the district for many years and leaves a family of grown up sons. Her husband pre-deceased her some twenty years ago. The funeral took place on Tuesday. Mr J.F. McDermott carrying out the mortuary arrangements. Yackandandah Times May 29th 1925 William B. Paull The death occurred on 26th May of Mr. William B. Paull, late of Lake Harvey, Yackandandah, at the age of 56 years. Deceased, who followed the occupation of road contractor, was a man of strong physique until about a year ago, when he broke down in health and contracted pneumonia from which he died. He leaves a widow and three daughters to mourn their loss. The remains were interred in the Yackandandah cemetery on Tuesday in the presence of a number of friends and acquaintances. The Rev W.J. Alexander officiated at the graveside. All the best, Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan French" <tipps@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Births,Marriage & Deaths from Ovens & Murray Advertiser Saturday June231863 > Hello Anne, > The Rosehill Dairy was at the restored old Brewer home on > the Beechworth - Wooragee road at one time it had > " Rising Sun" on the gate, the" Rising Sun" was much further down > the road, that was the "Long Hill " > John Brewer operated the milk delivery round from there, he milked cows at > Wooragee ,took the milk there in the evening > and put the cans in the spring in the paddock to keep it cool overnight, > legend was that if milk production was a bit low a > bit of pure spring water may leak into the cans over night. > I wonder if the Blewitt's were part of the Brewer clan they came from > Penzance as my ancestors did,John Brewer and my > Great Grand Father married sisters of Richard Warren. I wonder too if the > little one is buried there as they were in Wooragee, perhaps just one > more > long forgotten grave. There is a photo of the Brewer home and family in > the > Burke > Museum. > Regards, > Alan French > > > . > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again Anne, Thanks for your reply to my post, re the snake perhaps it may have been a copperhead mistaken for a death adder, they are a quiet sort of a snake will just lie there while you walk over or past them, I remember them from the days when I did a bit of apple picking in Stanley many years ago. "Rosehill"? roses must have been popular in the early days of settlement, fairly easy to transport and propagate,and handled the climate fairly well , also they were probably a memory of "Home".The Nankervis property at Wooragee " was originally "Rosebank"probably from when Graham and Wilson built the stone house in the 1860,s. Anne somewhere in the Beechworth papers there is the story of the gruesome murder in what I think was a wine shanty or similar at Wooragee,seems that on occasions when the "Boss" was away his wife had a gentleman friend who came and "helped out". Unfortunately the "Boss" arrived home without prior notice of his coming and found a situation a little more than friendly, as a result he was murdered, chopped up with a tomahawk, and cremated in his own fireplace. Edgar Passey ,I think, has a reference to it in one of his more recent books. A good friend had the story and was going to give me a copy, unfortunately as with so many of my "mates" she is no longer with us to dabble in history. Back to the roses they were responsible for the sweet briars that infested the Wooragee valley right up to the 1940,s when 2 4 D became available, apparently they came from the rootstocks used to propagate the roses. Regards Alan French

Hello Listers, This time my thanks go to Mary who has submitted more birth and marriage spares. These are listed below and have also been uploaded to the website. If any of these are of interest to you, please go to http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/Spares/spares.html and click on the submitter's name on the right of the entry, which will open your email program. Or go to the above address and look at what others have also submitted. Thanks again Mary. Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Births ~~~~~~ Dewar, Walter, Indigo, 28/12/1860 Downes, Charles, Beechworth, 2/5/1907 Elmer, Henry, Beechworth, 12/4/1907 Forbes, George, Growlers Creek, 15/5/1866 Fulton, Henry, Chiltern, 21/9/1864 Fulton, Jessie, Chiltern, 4/10/1862 Fulton, Mary, Growlers Creek, 9/5/1866 Fulton, Robert, Indigo, 27/1/1861 Humphrey, Jane, Indigo, 9/2/1861 Irving, Joseph, Indigo, 27/2/1861 Jarvis, Dorothy, Beechworth, 26/2/1907 King, Florence, Beechworth, 5/4/1907 Maloney, James, Indigo, 21/2/1864 McLachlan, John, Growlers Creek, 29/5/1866 O'Brien, Anne, Chiltern, 16/9/1862 See, Margaret, Indigo, 19/3/1861 Turner, John, Chiltern, 13/8/1864 York, Melba, Beechworth, 21/4/1907 Marriages ~~~~~~~~~ Maurant, Louis - Stephens, Annie, Yackandandah, 9/1/1884 Fulton, John - Jarvis, Isabella, Beechworth, 3/3/1884 Mather, John - Fulton, Jessie, Beechworth, 12/4/1886 McKay, John - Walker, Harriet, Beechworth, 20/11/1895 Winning, Henry - Beck, Christina, Beechworth, 6/11/1895 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Alan, Nice to hear from you. I'm hoping Ronda has seen your e-mail as I know Blewitt is one of her names so hopefully she'll be able to help re the possible Blewitt-Brewer connection. I spent a lot of hours at the Burke Museum this week peering at the 1863 O & M microfilm - that is where the bits and pieces I posted came from. I also have one which haven't typed up yet where a dairyman Daniel Farrell had a narrow escape from being bitten by a death adder. Death adder is the newspaper's words not mine. This apparently took place in Sebastopol in the middle of Winter. What sort of snake might it have been? Have you any idea why the Rosehill Dairy was given the name Rosehill - just curious. I will certainly ask to have a look at the photo of the Brewer home and family the next time I am at the Burke. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Alan French Sent: Friday, 29 June 2007 5:44 PM To: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AVNE] Births,Marriage & Deaths from Ovens & Murray Advertiser Saturday June231863 Hello Anne, The Rosehill Dairy was at the restored old Brewer home on the Beechworth - Wooragee road at one time it had " Rising Sun" on the gate, the" Rising Sun" was much further down the road, that was the "Long Hill " John Brewer operated the milk delivery round from there, he milked cows at Wooragee ,took the milk there in the evening and put the cans in the spring in the paddock to keep it cool overnight, legend was that if milk production was a bit low a bit of pure spring water may leak into the cans over night. I wonder if the Blewitt's were part of the Brewer clan they came from Penzance as my ancestors did,John Brewer and my Great Grand Father married sisters of Richard Warren. I wonder too if the little one is buried there as they were in Wooragee, perhaps just one more long forgotten grave. There is a photo of the Brewer home and family in the Burke Museum. Regards, Alan French . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.12/878 - Release Date: 28/06/2007 5:57 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.12/878 - Release Date: 28/06/2007 5:57 PM

Hello Anne, The Rosehill Dairy was at the restored old Brewer home on the Beechworth - Wooragee road at one time it had " Rising Sun" on the gate, the" Rising Sun" was much further down the road, that was the "Long Hill " John Brewer operated the milk delivery round from there, he milked cows at Wooragee ,took the milk there in the evening and put the cans in the spring in the paddock to keep it cool overnight, legend was that if milk production was a bit low a bit of pure spring water may leak into the cans over night. I wonder if the Blewitt's were part of the Brewer clan they came from Penzance as my ancestors did,John Brewer and my Great Grand Father married sisters of Richard Warren. I wonder too if the little one is buried there as they were in Wooragee, perhaps just one more long forgotten grave. There is a photo of the Brewer home and family in the Burke Museum. Regards, Alan French .

Hello Faye, I am assuming (hoping?) I wasn't rude to you but it seems I didn't reply to this email. I haven't done much with the KOCHs. I did email a first cousin once removed but he didn't know much either. I am in the process of saving the emails I want from the last 6 months on to a flash disc and will keep yours. I have lost emails in the past with computer crashes and have tried not to stress too much about them but I'd rather know I've got a copy somewhere! I don't think we are connected to Thomas Spriggs which seems strange as there were heaps and heaps of Spriggs I am connected to! I do not know of any other KOCHs but have just realised I should forward your email on to a 3rd cousin and see if she can help. Kind regards (and apologies) Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye & Kai" <fairdinks@web.de> To: <aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] KOCH Hi again Cathy Your original message finally arrived. I'm curious now to know if you find out about another Willie KOCH in the Devenish area. I'm also wondering if there are any other cemeteries in the area where they could possibly be buried. I've just been through all the family cemetery photos I took when I made a whirlwind visit to Victoria last October and the only KOCH headstones in Devenish cemetery, that I could find anyway, where mine (unless I overlooked one). I didn't find any KOCH headstones at Cashel cemetery and there are also no KOCH's mentioned buried at Dookie cemetery. There is a Thomas SPRIGGS buried at Dookie cemetery. I don't have a photo of that one, but he is the only SPRIGGS listed on the list of people buried at the cemetery (the cemetery has them listed within the grounds with a map of where to find them, extremely helpful). Regards Faye -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-vic-ne-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Tom&Cathy Purcell Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 09:33 An: aus-vic-ne@rootsweb.com Betreff: [AVNE] KOCH Hello everyone, Last October Faye requested a lookup for the surname KOCH and Peter answered(see below). Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:30 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Koch Look-up Please >> Hi Faye, >> Charlotte Pauline died at St James in 1891 (Reg No 18062), aged 68, >> daughter >> of Rudolph John and Elizabeth GRUHN. >> Johann Wilhelm died at "Cashel" (probably Castlemaine?) in1909 (Reg. 903) >> aged 89, parents unknown. >> There was also a Wilhelm died at Barnawartha in 1912 (Reg 4319) aged 71, >> parents unknown. >> Peter I have a connection to a KOCH, at least family lore says so. Amelia POTZSCH (various spellings) married Ernst Heinrich THIES on 10 Sep 1854 in Melbourne. He died, and in 1859, also in Melbourne, she married John SPRIGGS. They moved to Devenish where they became quite well known. Family lore has it that Willie KOCH (which one?) was Amelia's cousin. Amelia's parents were Johann POTZSCH and Christiane KOCH from Grosshatmannsdorf in Saxony. Does anyone know of the KOCHs in NE Victoria and where they came from?? Best wishes, Cathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-VIC-NE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message