Hello AUS-VIC-NEsters, This time my thanks go to Karen Pearson, who has offered to do lookups from the following three books: . Australian Pioneer Women; by Eve Pownall . Our Side of the Country - The Story of Victoria; by Geoffrey Blainey . Through Women's Eyes at Pioneering Days - some women of Wangaratta and District; Compiled by Brenda Leitch. If interested, please contact Karen directly on "Karen Pearson" <kpearson@bigpond.net.au> The lookup offer for these books has been added to the AVNE book page. Other book lookup offers can be found at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/books.html/ Cheers Peter

Paul Piko ---- hi I've been trying over te last few weeks to piece together a bit on your Maloney's of Wooragee thru BDMs etc. Who was John Maloney? Have I got it right here John had Martin in 1837 Martin had Catherine Martin who married Margaret Hammil Martin Jnr was a carrier like his father? John Jan Annie William etc I think somewhere I've missed a generation and have Martin Snr marrying Margaret H. Martin Snr died in 1917? I cant' check my BDMS are "on loan" to a friend. Denise

Thanks for that Denise, For those of you coming to Wangaratta in March, we have a copy in our f.h. library you can read. It was purchased for $8 several weeks ago at a garage sale. I also recently purchased a copy for my own children at a local op shop for $3. Will keep an eye out for more. I will check out our local second hand bookshop and see if he has any copies and if so, publish cost details here. It seems to me that some of the bookshops that sell books over the internet charge a lot more than local second hand dealers for these types of books. For anyone wanting a copy of Graham Jones ''Memories of Oxley"; two weeks ago, the Collins bookshop in Wangaratta had two copies left at $35 each. These are the last print . No more will be printed according the the manager of the shop. Several fo Graham's other books..."bushrangers of the north east" etc are still available either at Collins or at the neighbouring newsagent. Again, no more will be printed according to the shop employee. Bron.

Jo, That son was Ned Kelly the bushranger. Thanks for your help with this. Caroline. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Kelly" <jm.kelly@uws.edu.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: [AVNE] Children of Ellen Quinn > Carolyn, > I was just checking through the children of Ellen Quinn sent > in by Carol. One other son is Edward Kelly who > like his brother Daniel died in 1880 on November 11. > Regards > JO > >

Hi Kathy, Nicole and Peter, Any connection to William WRAITH, born about 1843 in Jarrow Durham, the son of William WRAITH and Hannah ROBSON who married 27 Dec 1830 at St Andrews Auckland Durham. He married Hannah NAYLOR and was a publican in Sebastian near Eaglehawk Vic. Cheers Jan Canberra At 02:56 PM 3/02/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Kathy and Nicole, > >Are we talking Wraiths, formerly of Harrietville, here? Carl, and family? > >Peter Ross >Yackandandah, Vic.

Hi Listers, following the recent posting on MASON, I thought someone may be interested in this article - it also has some good history about the Wangaratta district Wangaratta Chronicle, Wednesday October 8, 1913 GRETA DISTRICT PIONEER - Mr R. J. MASON - TO BE ENTERTAINED BY RESIDENTS After a residence of 59 years at Hanson South Mr Robt. J. MASON, of "Fairfield Park" has sold his well-improved property to Mr W. B. HUNGERFORD, of Malvern, and intends taking up his residence in Wangaratta. The residents of the Greta and Moyhu districts have decided not to allow this old pioneer of the Greta district to depart without entertaining him, in order to show their appreciation of his qualities as a resident, neighbour, successful farmer and pioneer. They have arranged to tender him a banquet and presentation, which will take place in the Hansonville Hall on Wednesday evening, 15th inst. The MASON family have been known in Australia for 86 years now. Mr R. J. MASON is one of the best known residents in the North-Eastern District, and is popular not only in his own (Greta) locality but throughout the Wangaratta and Benalla districts. His residence of 59 years in the district has been marked with success, and he has shown nothing but goodwill to all who know him, the generous hospitality always extended to visitors to "Fairfield Park" on Fifteen Mile Creek Station as it was known 60 years ago. Mr MASON, senr., was born in Berkshire, England, and landed in Sydney in 1827, being amongst the early arrivals in the Mother Colony. He was a member of the Sydney police Force for a couple of years when he resigned - on his disapproving of the harsh treatment to which convicts were subjected - and afterwards became Captain on a boat running between Sydney and Parramatta. Having a liking for the land he decided to seek employment on a station in order to gain experience with horses, cattle, sheep, etc. He secured an engagement on Mr SHELLY's station at Goulbourn NSW, where he remained for several years, learning every point possible from men of experience there. When he left there he was considered an expert in the treatment and handling of horses, and also a good judge of cattle. In 1837 he made one of a syndicate that purchased Biggerie Station on the Upper Murray and worked it for some years with success. Before going on to "Biggerie" he married Miss MURPHY, of Parramatta, and she was the first white woman that went to live on the Upper Murray, and the son born early in 1838 was the first white child born in that territory. The blacks were very troublesome in that part of the country, and frequently encounters occurred between them and the settlers, especially when the blacks would spear a bullock for food. Mr R. J. MASON was born on "Biggerie" station on 26th March, 1843, and soon after his father purchased "Maraket" station lower down the Murray, where the family went to live. At the age of nine years Mr MASON, who had taken to the saddle when a mere youngster, and afterwards became a noted rider of buck-jumpers, made his first long journey (accompanied by his father) across country to the Darling with stock. In the following year, 1853, his father and he drove a number of bullocks to Beechworth via Albury Tallangatta, Keiwa and Yackandandah - a journey of about 100 miles over almost unknown country. The cattle were sold to a butcher on the gold fields - his shop being built of slabs and stringybark - at a low figure. The population of the country being sparse and cattle numerous prices were very low. Mr MASON, senr., went to Melbourne with a bullock wagon and made two trips between there and the Bendigo gold fields and one to Beechworth, receiving £100 per ton for the goods carted. Groceries and other requirements for "Maraket" station were purchased in Sydney, Mr MASON, senr., making the trip once a year with a bullock waggon, the journey occupying three months. Like other early pioneers he tanned the leather needed for footwear, and made the boots required for the family; constructed wooden ploughs that were used in those days, cut the crop with scythes, threshed it with a flail, and ground the wheat for flour with a hand mill. A relic of those early days can still be seen at "Fairfield Park" in the form of an old hand grinder. COMING TO WANGARATTA In 1854 Mr MASON and his father arrived at Wangaratta on their way up the King River to inspect Glenmore Station, which was for sale. The contractors were just completing the first bridge erected over the Ovens river at Wangaratta, and Mr CLARK had only during the preceding year built the first portion of the present Commercial Hotel. They stopped there for the night. The Wangaratta pound was in existence with Mr A TONE as keeper. Amongst the few residents living on the king River road were Messrs BRETT, VINCENTS, and WHITE; "Laceby" Station was owned by Mr MOORE and "Myrrhee" by Mr CHISHOLM. Mr D H EVANS was dairying on part of Myrrhee Station, and Mr John EVANS (father of Mr John EVANS, of Redcamp) was living on Whitfield station. Mr MASON and his father stopped at Mr J EVANS's the night after leaving Wangaratta, and with him, next day went to inspect "Bungamero," which Mr MASON's father did not approve of. On the suggestion of Mr EVANS they travelled across to Greta and inspected the "Fifteen Mile Creek" Station, which was for sale, and Mr MASON, senr., considering it a good property, decided to purchase it. On account of the wet weather they stopped at HOLLOWAY's Hotel, Greta, for two days, and saw the North Eastern mail carried past on pack-horses, the coaches being stuck up in the heavy roads. At this time the main Sydney road went round by Greta. Mr MASON rode to Rockey Waterholes, near Kilmore and closed with the owner, Mr TRAINOR, for the purchase of "Fifteen Mile Creek" Station. In 1855 "Maraket" Station was sold to the late Mr STRAUGHAN (Mrs STRAUGHAN and some of the family still reside on it), and in February the MASON family started for "Fifteen Mile Creek," bringing 953 head of cattle and 133 horses across with them. Trouble was experienced in holding the stock, which endeavoured to break away during the night; but every hoof was safely landed. The journey over occupied three weeks. For the next 18 months the cattle were very restless. There were no dividing fences in existence in those days, bullock and horses frequently got away, necessitating long and rough journeys for the members of the family who went in search of them. Some of Mr MASON's cattle and horses found their way back to Maraket, while others were picked up in the Wangaratta pound. Things went along merrily at "Fifteen Mile Creek" station under the new owner and prosperous times loomed ahead. [next part to follow]

Kathy and Nicole, Are we talking Wraiths, formerly of Harrietville, here? Carl, and family? Peter Ross Yackandandah, Vic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Myles <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > Nicole > > I sent this email 3 times to your email address but said it was > undeliverable. I thought I would try this way to contact you. > > I was starting to enter your new data on the Wraiths when I realized I did > not know your last name which I need to enter for the source reference. > > Also could you give me the names of your parents and grandparents so that I > can slot you into the tree- only the names no dates or such unless you want > to give them to me. > > Thanks > > Kathy > >

This is my first message. My name is Carmel Fitzgerald (1940) daughter of Reginald Morgan (1910) and Mary Bennett (1910), paternal granddaughter of Edward Richard Morgan(1883) and Maria Frances Patterson (1887) maternal granddaughter of Richard Hargreaves Bennett (1871) and Martha Cleary (abt 1871). The Morgans and Pattersons spent time in Greta, Euroa, Rutherglen and thanks to Kaye Patterson and Kerryn Taylor, I am getting more up to date information on this side of my family. The Bennett and Cleary line had their beginnings in Salford, England - I know very little about them and would be grateful if anyone could help. Thanks Carmel Fitzgerald

This is my first message. My name is Len Fitzgerald (1931), mother Margaret Seymour (1899), father Richard Patrick Fitzgerald ((1899), paternal grandmother Margaret Delaney ((1885) maternal grandmother Helena Naughton (1897) Richard Fitzgerald and Margaret Delaney were among the early residents of Wangaratta. Anyone researching this family may contact me as I have quite a bit and am keen to talk family history to others, especially connections. Len Fitzgerald

Denise, I know this is outrageous but could I have a form. You sent me one and I somehow deleted it. Perhaps I could just put in a short one by 6 o'clock. Sorry about this. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2002 12:06 Subject: [AVNE] Please check this list of Bios > If you have sent one, please let me know if you are not on the list and resend. > > There are 36 Bios on the list - Thanks Denise > > Denise Mascaro > Myself - yep I sent one so I am here!!! > Glenda Matthews > Judy Coates > Karen Pearson > Kaye Patterson > Lorraine Calvert > Elizabeth Bell > Chris Wild > Doug McL-Smith > Jackie Fuler > John REad > Joy Bell > Judy Whitaker > Ros V > Peter Zip Ross > Di the circus ring leader > Deborah Delahunty > Elaine Rogers > Pamela Lockwood > ..............Ferguson - please advise your name > Hans Braaksma > JackieCallinan > Jenny Patrick > Jim Parslow > Judy Douthie > Kathy Myles > Margaret McIntosh > Margo Young > Mary Dean > Mary Miller > Nardia Taylor > Robynne > Ronda Shambrook > Wendy Milne > Rhonda Windsor > > >

I am looking into the name Rapsey John - who was in Wooragee circa 1859. I have where one of his children died in Tallangatta. Can anyone (thanks Judy D who is writing to someone for me) on the list confirm if this Rapsey is the same Rapsey's who ended up in Noorongong area, which of course is past Tallangatta. Rapsey's bought my gg's property in Noorongong and descendants are still there. I hope to be able to visit when down in March. Denise

If you have sent one, please let me know if you are not on the list and resend. There are 36 Bios on the list - Thanks Denise Denise Mascaro Myself - yep I sent one so I am here!!! Glenda Matthews Judy Coates Karen Pearson Kaye Patterson Lorraine Calvert Elizabeth Bell Chris Wild Doug McL-Smith Jackie Fuler John REad Joy Bell Judy Whitaker Ros V Peter Zip Ross Di the circus ring leader Deborah Delahunty Elaine Rogers Pamela Lockwood ..............Ferguson - please advise your name Hans Braaksma JackieCallinan Jenny Patrick Jim Parslow Judy Douthie Kathy Myles Margaret McIntosh Margo Young Mary Dean Mary Miller Nardia Taylor Robynne Ronda Shambrook Wendy Milne Rhonda Windsor

Hi List My Family History Group, which is The Lakes Entrance Family History Resource Centre, Victoria, has launch a project to collect as much information as possible about the pioneer families of Far East Gippsland and preserve it for future generations. For the purpose of this project, Far East Gippsland is that part of Gippsland extending from the Nicholson River to Mallacoota and north from Dinner Plains to the NSW border. Information is being sought from anyone whose families settles or lived at any stage in Far East Gippsland prior to 1920. Descendants of Far East Gippsland pioneer families are asked to assist with this project by providing information about their families on a Family Record Sheet, which I can send to you via email at your request. Thanks for you time Nardia kntaylor@ozemail.com.au

Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside it but did not see what the question was, Joan > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise McMahon [mailto:helendmc@powerup.com.au] > Sent: 02 February 2002 10:14 > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > Nardia...............whilst I can't help, I did notice last night that the > LDS web site has the Beechworth Cemetery available at their > "offices" - try > the one closest to you. > > Of course they may only be transcriptions.Has anyone used this before? > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K & N Taylor" <kntaylor@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:01 AM > Subject: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > Hi List > > > > I was wondering if anyone has a list of burials in the > Beechworth Cemetery > or any other cemeteries in the area. > > > > I'm looking for a Lemuel Isreal Green. There is no death record but I > know that his wife Mary Ann (Phillips) met up with another man in > Beechworth. So I am assuming that he died in this area. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Nardia > > Lakes Entrance > > Victoria > > > > > > > >

Hi Caroline It is Saturday night and I have just returned from Melbourne, please bear with me, I am suffering from road lag. I will pass your request onto our researcher, Helen Neill but off the top of my head I am sure we have quite a bit of info about the Jamieson/Mansfield King families, and some of the descendants still have contact with the area. Whether it contains your John and Ellen I am not sure, but we will contact you off list. Cheers Barb Bateson -- Jamieson & District Historical Society Inc. PO Box 26, Jamieson 3723 Phone 03 57770690 Fax 03 5777 0892 jdhs@mansfield.net.au www.vicnet.net.au/~jdhs

I have posted this before, quite some time ago, so I thought I would do it again for the newcomers. What I have below is a page from the Beechworth Common School #36 class list or 21 April 1865. Also I have a page which is undated, but knowing some of the names on here and going by the ages, this pae would be circa !870. I will list the names, each name has an age, a standard, and marks. Apart from the names below I have no more. If you have an interest I am happy to share the comments. Remember some of you may have seen this a year or so ago.- 1865 list Arthur Searle Will Atkinson Saraha A Butler Elizabeth Broadfort Janet Whean Emma Crawford Elizabeth Canfield Cath Martin Mary Noth Emily Cullen Saml Byrchall Lewis/Lois Whiting Mary R See/Lee Chas Oke John Corby (?) Thomas Bathgate Fred Jeffs Will Barnes Edw Scarborough Angus Scobie Robert Drybufgh James Ogilvie Walter Cork (?) Geoge Broadford Walter Armstrong Thomas Lee Mary W Comechy Martha Crawford Elizabeth Luckie Alice Searle Cath Scobie May Anderson Maria McConechy Elizabeth Pritchard Ann Pritchard Jane Cath... Janet Wallace Emma Jeffs from the page cir 1870 Elizabeth Cole Elizabeth Poyntz Hannah Ellis Hannah Lea Harriet Ellis Jessie Crow Ruth H Baldwin Ellen Davis Jane E Roy Olive Mary Page Ellen Shennan Catherine LEster Jane Rowe Hecotr Macaulay Selina Rickards Arthur J McLellan Charles B Duncan Donald Fletcher - crossed out Edward Skidmore Edward Smith George Bruce George E Taulkner George R.A. Glenny Henry B Andrews Henry Richards James Sloane John Kennedy Joseph Dale Louis N A Dyring Machin Tomlinson - crossed out Robert H Crawford Walter Humphreys Wm Henry Baldwin Wm Cavana Denise

Denise I am not sure. Fairly complicated up and down different lines. You can only hope!!!! Kathy

Peter R Yes I am talking about the Wraiths of Harrietville - one of my Drummonds - Jean Drummond - married into the family - Edmund Newton Wraith - uncle of Carl. Nicole is a descendent of Frances Ann Wraith - Carl's aunt. Jan As far I know no connection. Peter L Thanks for that info. I only received the email from Nicole on Friday so I hope it is only a temporary absence Kathy

Heah ah is! Peter R ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: [AVNE] Attention Attention - Peter RZipper > Peter, would youplease contact me urgently - time has come. I've lost your email addy. > Denise > >

Sorry I could not find a McGowan .I have been through he book fairly well and indexed names found. It is a pity books have not always been indexed to make for eay reading. regards Elaine Jan Shaw wrote: > Hello Elaine, > > > > > I have in my possession the above book by W.G. Spence.This a good book > > > > explaining the history of the AWU.It has a lot of names in it. Lists of > > > > unoin delegates to conference,general secretary,treasurers,executive > > > > officers and many more. I am willing to do lookups if any one is > > > > interested. > > Would you mind checking please if the name George Francis McGOWAN appears. > > Many thanks, > Jan Shaw.