Looking for anyone connected with the above two names. They were involved with the Beechworth Gas Company and I am keen to find out a bit more about them.

Anyone researching these people. I can tell you which house they lived in the the 1880's. Denise

Mary........Did you know your Kyles and your Becks belonged to the Masonic Lodge #14. From your hard working Boss

Cheeky. Watta bout Wooragee??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dean" <Deans@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: [AVNE] Beechworth 1868 > Hi all, > this is from Bailliere's Victorian Directory - 1868 > > BEECHWORTH > > Mayor - John Jas. B. Bowman. > Councillors - > William Witt > John Duncan Fisher > Henry Clemenger > James Collier > Henry Louis Chas. Raecke > George Graham > Donald Fiddes > Edward S. Russum > Town Clerk - William Henry Charles Darvall, solicitor > Collector - William Morton > Surveyor - Thomas Dalziel > Inspector of Nuisances - Police Sergeant R. Timmins > Roadsman and Curator of Public Garden - John Rutherford > Dog Officer and Revenue officer - John Phelan > Town Hall Keeper - William Morton > Valve Keeper at the Beechworth Waterworks - Alex McPherson. > > There is also a list of people in the town and surrounds in that year, will try and get that listed shortly - no Hiram, before I am asked > Mary > Mary Dean, > researching:- > Beck, Brennan, Care, Coonan, Furneaux, > Fulton, Harris, Hughlings, Kelly, Kyle, Middle, > Stafford, Tynan. > My home http://www.familyorigins.com/users/d/e/a/Mary--Dean/ > >

merci madame. You are doing well. Firm appreciates your concern. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dean" <Deans@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:59 AM Subject: [AVNE] Bailliere's 1868 > Denise, > a follow up to my last message > Crawford H.A., publcn., Chiltn. > from the hard working > Mary Dean, > researching:- > Beck, Brennan, Care, Coonan, Furneaux, > Fulton, Harris, Hughlings, Kelly, Kyle, Middle, > Stafford, Tynan. > My home http://www.familyorigins.com/users/d/e/a/Mary--Dean/ > > >

Hi All, As the Ringmaster's volunteer, I would like to thank Denise for her initiation, time & effort she has spent on the bio's. Also, to all who have contributed, they make wonderful reading and will be invaluable. I have kept the cost of producing the 'edition' to the bare minimum, based on the number of people who have indicated they were prepared to purchase a copy. However, unfortunately I have no control over Australia Post and the postage rates. The cost of the 'book' will be $8.00. As the popularity of the bio's kept growing & growing, the 'book' is to large to be posted as a large letter, (as it weighs more than .5kgs), therefore the postage rate varies depending on location, which is unfortunate for those not able to attend the circus. For those attending the circus, I am happy to bring your copy along for distribution, if this is your preference to paying postage. PAYMENT IS TO BE MADE PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE CIRCUS. I am not open to bribes, and not in a position to offer pensioner discounts (sorry Zippa Ross!!) Can you all email me privately please at natwisaus@albury.net.au to arrange payment, advise delivery option and locality (address) if postage is applicable. For those that have replied to Denise indicating they want their copy posted, Denise has forwarded that list to me, however you will still need to reply to me to obtain payment details. Your continued support is needed & your co-operation appreciated. Chris Wild p.s Kaye Patterson - can you detail your REBECCA REA to me pls. (The bio's at work already!!!!!!)

Hi Chris, I would like a copy please. Could you send details of cost and your address etc. Thanks for a great job, Anne Anne Hollingshead 9 Kingfield Court, Camberwell, Victoria AUSTRALIA 3124 ----- Original Message ----- From: "natwisaus" <natwisaus@albury.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2002 4:41 Subject: [AVNE] Those FABULOUS bio's > Hi All, > > As the Ringmaster's volunteer, I would like to thank Denise for her > initiation, time & effort she has spent on the bio's. > > Also, to all who have contributed, they make wonderful reading and will > be invaluable. > > I have kept the cost of producing the 'edition' to the bare minimum, > based on the number of people who have indicated they were prepared to > purchase a copy. However, unfortunately I have no control over Australia > Post and the postage rates. > > The cost of the 'book' will be $8.00. > > As the popularity of the bio's kept growing & growing, the 'book' is to > large to be posted as a large letter, (as it weighs more than .5kgs), > therefore the postage rate varies depending on location, which is > unfortunate for those not able to attend the circus. > > For those attending the circus, I am happy to bring your copy along for > distribution, if this is your preference to paying postage. > > PAYMENT IS TO BE MADE PRIOR TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE CIRCUS. > > I am not open to bribes, and not in a position to offer pensioner > discounts (sorry Zippa Ross!!) > > Can you all email me privately please at natwisaus@albury.net.au to > arrange payment, advise delivery option and locality (address) if postage > is applicable. > > For those that have replied to Denise indicating they want their copy > posted, Denise has forwarded that list to me, however you will still need > to reply to me to obtain payment details. > > Your continued support is needed & your co-operation appreciated. > > Chris Wild > > p.s Kaye Patterson - can you detail your REBECCA REA to me pls. > (The bio's at work already!!!!!!) > >

Thanks Lois - I have actually come across the Joseph entry. Now I can cross him off. I appreciate your reply. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: the orrs <loisstephen@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: [AVNE] Re: ORR > Hi Nandina > > Sorry, but my ORR is my married name and my husbands family is descended > from two brothers James and Joseph ORR who came to the Nathalia area from > Ireland in the 1890's. I don't think there is any link as the rest of their > family who stayed in Ireland did not marry. > > Lois Orr (Threlfall) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nandina Morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] MATTHEWS > > > > Hello Lois, I cannot help but follow this one thru'. Having just been on > > the trail of my ORRs, I suddenly see a message from an Orr. Wonder could > > you (or spouse, perhaps) belong to my little group. > > They started with William and Mary Anne (nee Russell). > > Most of the descendants have been girls, so the ORR name has been > preserved > > only by (known) sons John William Russell and Robert Edward (may be John > > Robt Ed) in generation 1. > > Then there was John Robert Russell who died in 1950 - Flemington. I > wonder > > is any of this familiar to you? > > > > > > > > At 09:52 PM 1/31/02 +1100, you wrote: > > >Hi Gary > > > > > >I have several books on Euroa and will have a look to see if your > MATTHEW's > > >are mentioned in them. If you want to contact the Euroa & District > > >Historical Society they are at PO Box 159, Euroa 3666. The Euroa > > >Genealogical Group is at the same address. > > > > > >Lois Orr > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02

Denise, a follow up to my last message Crawford H.A., publcn., Chiltn. from the hard working Mary Dean, researching:- Beck, Brennan, Care, Coonan, Furneaux, Fulton, Harris, Hughlings, Kelly, Kyle, Middle, Stafford, Tynan. My home http://www.familyorigins.com/users/d/e/a/Mary--Dean/

Hi all, this is from Bailliere's Victorian Directory - 1868 BEECHWORTH Mayor - John Jas. B. Bowman. Councillors - William Witt John Duncan Fisher Henry Clemenger James Collier Henry Louis Chas. Raecke George Graham Donald Fiddes Edward S. Russum Town Clerk - William Henry Charles Darvall, solicitor Collector - William Morton Surveyor - Thomas Dalziel Inspector of Nuisances - Police Sergeant R. Timmins Roadsman and Curator of Public Garden - John Rutherford Dog Officer and Revenue officer - John Phelan Town Hall Keeper - William Morton Valve Keeper at the Beechworth Waterworks - Alex McPherson. There is also a list of people in the town and surrounds in that year, will try and get that listed shortly - no Hiram, before I am asked Mary Mary Dean, researching:- Beck, Brennan, Care, Coonan, Furneaux, Fulton, Harris, Hughlings, Kelly, Kyle, Middle, Stafford, Tynan. My home http://www.familyorigins.com/users/d/e/a/Mary--Dean/

Hi Nandina Sorry, but my ORR is my married name and my husbands family is descended from two brothers James and Joseph ORR who came to the Nathalia area from Ireland in the 1890's. I don't think there is any link as the rest of their family who stayed in Ireland did not marry. Lois Orr (Threlfall) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nandina Morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] MATTHEWS > Hello Lois, I cannot help but follow this one thru'. Having just been on > the trail of my ORRs, I suddenly see a message from an Orr. Wonder could > you (or spouse, perhaps) belong to my little group. > They started with William and Mary Anne (nee Russell). > Most of the descendants have been girls, so the ORR name has been preserved > only by (known) sons John William Russell and Robert Edward (may be John > Robt Ed) in generation 1. > Then there was John Robert Russell who died in 1950 - Flemington. I wonder > is any of this familiar to you? > > > > At 09:52 PM 1/31/02 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi Gary > > > >I have several books on Euroa and will have a look to see if your MATTHEW's > >are mentioned in them. If you want to contact the Euroa & District > >Historical Society they are at PO Box 159, Euroa 3666. The Euroa > >Genealogical Group is at the same address. > > > >Lois Orr > >

Carolyn, I assume you have a fair bit of info on Ellen Quinn but this little bit of extra info from a family tree I picked up in Jerilderie may help Ellen suppposedly had a daughter in 1870 to William Frost Baby died in 1872 After marrying George King in 1874 Ellen had 3 children 1. Ellen - born 1873? - married William Knight had 3 daughters 2. John - born 1875? - married Violet - had 3 children 3. Alice - born 1878? - married J Dawe - had John Jean m Kendall? There are a couple of websites that may interest you http://www.nedkellysworld.com.au/history/familytree/familytree.htm http://www.fethard.com/people/redkelly.html Regards Jo

Got you! Actually it is regarding names from the north east but I am hoping people could provide me with names this time. I am after anyone who knows of their rellie or whomever, involved in 1. Beechworth Gas Company 2. St. Johns Lodge 3. Beechworth Pottery - as opposed to Ovens Pottery. I would appreciate the names to add to my research details for inclusion in the book. regards Denise

Kathy, Robynne and Denise... In the face of such unseemly speculation and un-ladylike chatter, I have resolved that my only response should be to maintain a dignified silence. I shall however pass on all your names etc to a descendant of Carl Wraith's ( a grand-daughter I believe), who is married to the son of a good friend of mine. She, I should point out, is a lady of impeccable charm and taste and therefor I should be extremely surprised if she will deign to speak with anyone engaged in such a display of indignity. I have to say though that I have only ever been bitten by dogs twice in my life, and Pam owns both of them. Surely that has nothing to do with the Wraith family? Surely? Peter R ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > Kathy, you aren't telling me that I am related to PEter Zipper Ross are > you??? > (grin) > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:13 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > > > > Peter R > > Yes I am talking about the Wraiths of Harrietville - one of my Drummonds - > > Jean Drummond - married into the family - Edmund Newton Wraith - uncle of > > Carl. > > > > Nicole is a descendent of Frances Ann Wraith - Carl's aunt. > > > > Jan > > As far I know no connection. > > > > Peter L > > Thanks for that info. I only received the email from Nicole on Friday so I > > hope it is only a temporary absence > > > > Kathy > > > > > > >

Does anyone have a copy of the book "The Old Lady" or the "Fat Lady" or something like that which relates to the above lodge? I have a photo of the Past Masters Honor Roll but the lower section is chopped off. It was a case of concentrating on one name only and not realising that down the track I would need the lot. i need the Past Masters from 1878 to 1882 and 1904 to 1910 Can anyone help with this please? Thank you Denise

Does anyone know what the letters after the names on an Honor Board would represent. The board is at St. Johns Lodge in Beechworth. I imagine it has something to do with the lodge and their "rank" These letters crop up several times on the board, plus a few more. While I've got the board photo out, would anyone like a look up. Jackie of Beenleigh - J. Goldworthy was Past Master in 1885 Dobbyn P.J.G.W Stewart P.G.StB. Oates P.J.G.D. Many thanks Denise

He talks funny too! A Crawford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ross" <rossof@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > Kathy, Robynne and Denise... > > In the face of such unseemly speculation and un-ladylike chatter, I have > resolved that my only response should be to maintain a dignified silence. > > I shall however pass on all your names etc to a descendant of Carl Wraith's > ( a grand-daughter I believe), who is married to the son of a good friend of > mine. She, I should point out, is a lady of impeccable charm and taste and > therefor I should be extremely surprised if she will deign to speak with > anyone engaged in such a display of indignity. > > I have to say though that I have only ever been bitten by dogs twice in my > life, and Pam owns both of them. Surely that has nothing to do with the > Wraith family? Surely? > > Peter R > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 7:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > > > > Kathy, you aren't telling me that I am related to PEter Zipper Ross are > > you??? > > (grin) > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > > > > > > > Peter R > > > Yes I am talking about the Wraiths of Harrietville - one of my > Drummonds - > > > Jean Drummond - married into the family - Edmund Newton Wraith - uncle > of > > > Carl. > > > > > > Nicole is a descendent of Frances Ann Wraith - Carl's aunt. > > > > > > Jan > > > As far I know no connection. > > > > > > Peter L > > > Thanks for that info. I only received the email from Nicole on Friday so > I > > > hope it is only a temporary absence > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Or Pray! lol Cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Myles To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths Denise I am not sure. Fairly complicated up and down different lines. You can only hope!!!! Kathy

Ha, to a scot from the wrong clan? He should be from the Crauford Clan from Cunningham. 'On the Crauford/Crawfords. It seems they all ended up in the north east anyway. END > > I am not sure. Fairly complicated up and down different lines. You can only > hope!!!! > > >

Kathy, you aren't telling me that I am related to PEter Zipper Ross are you??? (grin) Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Re: Wraiths > Peter R > Yes I am talking about the Wraiths of Harrietville - one of my Drummonds - > Jean Drummond - married into the family - Edmund Newton Wraith - uncle of > Carl. > > Nicole is a descendent of Frances Ann Wraith - Carl's aunt. > > Jan > As far I know no connection. > > Peter L > Thanks for that info. I only received the email from Nicole on Friday so I > hope it is only a temporary absence > > Kathy > > >