Thank you Anne for the information you sent me on the murder at Indigo Creek. To the list I have two questions and hope someone can answer them. Indigo diggings must have been around Wooragee and Balck Dog Creek??? same area. Can someone describe please just where these were in relation to the township of Wooragee itself. My maps etc here do not show it. Thanks Denise

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Nandine, inscription on the Gammon grave reads:- In affectionate remembrance of the beloved children of George and Kate Gammon. Not lost but gone before Adelaide Ann Feb 2nd 1863 These are not mentioned in the B.D. Frederick George March 17th 1864 records nor at the BM,their records may Louisa Kate Dec 1865 been lost in the fire. Florence Oct 1868 Those are the ones mentioned on the actual site but I found mention of:- Florence 28months 10th Dec 1868 Agnes Gregor 4months 4th Feb 1869 Constance Ma 10weeks 6th Jan 1870 Alice Charlot 4months 4th Sept 1872 All these would be the burial dates and are mentioned both in the B.D.Pioneers and listed in the BM records. Hope this is of some interest to you and help. Will send the photo when developed. Spellings as in the records at BM. Joan

Hi Nandina, Let me know if you want me to do that photo (if I'm going) At this stage - Yes Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: nandina morris <nandina@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > Denise - that would be super if Joan is not able to do it. (The lass who > lives next door). If Joy is going, she may offer to do it, or anyone who > has nothing they particularly want in Beechworth might like a focus for the > stop - and if, in the end, it is you - please look to your own research > first. Please let me know who was the 'snapper' supposing it is convenient > for someone - I may require a copyright permission at t later date. For the > now this is 'just' for the photo album - but who knows? > > Thanks - you are a great e-friend. > Cheers, > > Nandina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > Maybe someone from the circus could take one for you Nandina. I could > add > > it to my list if you wish for I shall be visiting Hiram's grave, and > looking > > for a couple of others. > > > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > Not to worry. Perhaps I should have explained that I would really like > to > > > have an old fashioned photograph, not a scanned from a book image, in > this > > > case. I don't have printing capacity to turn a scanned image into one > of > > > photographic quality. But I appreciate your efforts, Denise - ta ever > so > > > much for trying. > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Nandina > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:21 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, must be the rain!~!!!! > > > > > > > > I have seen it in the flesh a couple of times, but still think I've > seen > > > it > > > > in a book - but must not have been mine. > > > > > > > > Denise > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > > > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:17 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of > the > > > > > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is > it > > > > > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister > > married > > > > > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > > > > generations. > > > > > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the > site - > > I > > > > > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the > > hedge, > > > > > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money > > > order. > > > > > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to > decline. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Nandina > > > > > > > > > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live > beside > > > it > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > >

Isn't this "off topic"? ...... Corinne. > I would like to announce to everyone on the list that Noeleen Lloyd and > myself are co-writing a manuscript on the people involved in the Kelly > years. > The concept of our book is to tell the stories of these people AFTER the > Kelly years. The aim is to have descendants of these people tell the > stories. > Did you know that Mrs Jones had 11 children, one son becoming a policeman. > Our manuscript will be an acknowledgement of the many people other than the > Kelly gang, who have left a mark on history at that one particular time, > many of these people going on to do exception things with their lives. > If you are a descendant of anybody that was involved in any way with the > Kelly years please feel free to contact Noeleen Llloyd or myself. > Noeleen can be contacted by email on noeleenlloyd@hotmail.com > Judy can be contacted by email on douth@dingoblue.net.au > Kind Regards > Judy Douthie > >

I would like to announce to everyone on the list that Noeleen Lloyd and myself are co-writing a manuscript on the people involved in the Kelly years. The concept of our book is to tell the stories of these people AFTER the Kelly years. The aim is to have descendants of these people tell the stories. Did you know that Mrs Jones had 11 children, one son becoming a policeman. Our manuscript will be an acknowledgement of the many people other than the Kelly gang, who have left a mark on history at that one particular time, many of these people going on to do exception things with their lives. If you are a descendant of anybody that was involved in any way with the Kelly years please feel free to contact Noeleen Llloyd or myself. Noeleen can be contacted by email on noeleenlloyd@hotmail.com Judy can be contacted by email on douth@dingoblue.net.au Kind Regards Judy Douthie

My pleasure, will check out the site position and let you know. Do you have any dates, approx would help. Joan > -----Original Message----- > From: nandina morris [mailto:nandina@alphalink.com.au] > Sent: 05 February 2002 12:18 > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of the > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is it > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister married > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > generations. > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the site - I > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the hedge, > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money order. > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to decline. > > Cheers, > > Nandina > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside it > but > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > >

Denise - that would be super if Joan is not able to do it. (The lass who lives next door). If Joy is going, she may offer to do it, or anyone who has nothing they particularly want in Beechworth might like a focus for the stop - and if, in the end, it is you - please look to your own research first. Please let me know who was the 'snapper' supposing it is convenient for someone - I may require a copyright permission at t later date. For the now this is 'just' for the photo album - but who knows? Thanks - you are a great e-friend. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > Maybe someone from the circus could take one for you Nandina. I could add > it to my list if you wish for I shall be visiting Hiram's grave, and looking > for a couple of others. > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > Not to worry. Perhaps I should have explained that I would really like to > > have an old fashioned photograph, not a scanned from a book image, in this > > case. I don't have printing capacity to turn a scanned image into one of > > photographic quality. But I appreciate your efforts, Denise - ta ever so > > much for trying. > > Cheers, > > > > Nandina > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > Sorry, must be the rain!~!!!! > > > > > > I have seen it in the flesh a couple of times, but still think I've seen > > it > > > in a book - but must not have been mine. > > > > > > Denise > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of the > > > > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is it > > > > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister > married > > > > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > > > generations. > > > > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the site - > I > > > > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the > hedge, > > > > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money > > order. > > > > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to decline. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Nandina > > > > > > > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside > > it > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02

Not to worry. Perhaps I should have explained that I would really like to have an old fashioned photograph, not a scanned from a book image, in this case. I don't have printing capacity to turn a scanned image into one of photographic quality. But I appreciate your efforts, Denise - ta ever so much for trying. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > Sorry, must be the rain!~!!!! > > I have seen it in the flesh a couple of times, but still think I've seen it > in a book - but must not have been mine. > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of the > > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is it > > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister married > > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > generations. > > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the site - I > > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the hedge, > > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money order. > > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to decline. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nandina > > > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside it > > but > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02

Ooooh! Around 1850-60 - there were a number of infants/toddlers. They are all in a family plot. Sad story. Denise has offered to take photo on her 'circus tour', but I figured she would have enough on her plate. I have suggested she (and fellow travellers) act as back up to you - but she may see your query on the list and add more detail. Thank you Joan - I truly appreciate your assistance. At this moment I plan just to have the photo in my Family Tree photo album, but might write about this little lot later (that was a nice little passage of alliteration). Will you also add your permission for your photo to be printed in my story (appropriately cited, of course), to satisfy copyright requirements? My gratitude.... Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Hilderbrand <appletre@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:03 AM Subject: RE: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > My pleasure, will check out the site position and let you know. Do you have > any dates, approx would help. Joan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nandina morris [mailto:nandina@alphalink.com.au] > > Sent: 05 February 2002 12:18 > > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of the > > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is it > > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister married > > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > > generations. > > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the site - I > > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the hedge, > > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money order. > > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to decline. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Nandina > > > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside it > > but > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02

Looks like Joan has the job. No worries. Denise ----- Original

Listers hi. I decided that I should get up and do some real work last weekend and dug into the cupboard for my "coffin" the box in which I have stored my dead files on HIram research. Files I've used. When I was going thru them I found several things which were interesting to other research I am doing and started to read it again. I've been doing this at night, at work in my lunch break and then coming home and working on it. If I can, I suggest people - pull all your research out and look at it again. You see things from different angles a second third and fourth time. I find that I understand the information better, things click together easier. I found a lot of papers on rates sent to me so kindly by Geoffrey Craig from Stanley one day. I thought I might post the names for anyone who may have them in their tree, and I will then happily tell you about the property. Good luck - There is a lot on the Commercial Hotel and its various owners over the years. If the names are repeated it is because I am going thru lots of pages and as I list, ones I remember I don't repeat, but others I do. sorry. So if your names appears it may appear a few times - remind me. John Duncan Fisher Edward Clark Alfred Foreman Richard Finch Thomas Tanswell Henry William Francis Wiliam Richards Forman Alex Glenine (?) IECKS - hairdresser Heirs of Dr. OUTI (?) Marshall Fisher J. Deutschman D. Lasher or Lashi -- Bowler David Lasker (could be the same as 2 above ) Tailor John MOras Alex G Jacks John Melrose Thomas Haig Peter Donald Ramsay De Jacks and Kellston - obviously busines William Andres & Son Jane Tanswell Albert William Dumaresq Richard Taylor William Andrews Jnr A.F. Graham ThomasA. Graham Richard Johnson Denise I have Minutes from the Beechworth Minute Meeting Book (Council) Witt Clemenger Colier Fiddes Raecke russom Graham Fisher - away sick!

Apologies the post was certainly sent to the list by mistake Once again apologies Ellen Peter Lakeman wrote: > This topic is declared off bounds on the AVNE list. > > Not having spoken to either poster yet, I assume that it was posted to the > list by mistake, and responded to because it was on-list. > > To be sorted out off-list. > > THE SENDER OF ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS POST WILL BE UNSUBSCRIBED. > *footstomp* > > Peter Lakeman > List admin of the AVNE mailing list

Apologies the post was certainly sent to the list by mistake Once again apologies Peter Lakeman wrote: > This topic is declared off bounds on the AVNE list. > > Not having spoken to either poster yet, I assume that it was posted to the > list by mistake, and responded to because it was on-list. > > To be sorted out off-list. > > THE SENDER OF ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS POST WILL BE UNSUBSCRIBED. > *footstomp* > > Peter Lakeman > List admin of the AVNE mailing list

Maybe someone from the circus could take one for you Nandina. I could add it to my list if you wish for I shall be visiting Hiram's grave, and looking for a couple of others. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > Not to worry. Perhaps I should have explained that I would really like to > have an old fashioned photograph, not a scanned from a book image, in this > case. I don't have printing capacity to turn a scanned image into one of > photographic quality. But I appreciate your efforts, Denise - ta ever so > much for trying. > Cheers, > > Nandina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > Sorry, must be the rain!~!!!! > > > > I have seen it in the flesh a couple of times, but still think I've seen > it > > in a book - but must not have been mine. > > > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "nandina morris" <nandina@alphalink.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth Cemetery > > > > > > > Joan - I wonder if I can ask a huge favor. Denise has told me of the > > > Beechworth cemetery where the little Gammon infants are buried. Is it > > > possible to get a photograph of their burial site? Their sister married > > > into my family, and I am keeping a Family Album for the future > > generations. > > > I have a vague recall that there is a hedge of sorts around the site - I > > > don't want to ask you to do anything difficult, if it is just the hedge, > > > that's fine. Let me know of your expenses and I'll send you a money > order. > > > And if this is not convenient etc, please do not hesitate to decline. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Nandina > > > > > > > Can I help with the Beechworth cemetery question, almost live beside > it > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.319 / Virus Database: 178 - Release Date: 1/28/02 > >

Hi Bonnie Joy My Great Aunt Jinnie SMITH married George Welsh FERGUSON so I am very intested in sharing the family with you. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Joy" <thejoys@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:27 PM Subject: [AVNE] FERGUSON > > My GGrandparents, John FERGUSON and Grace KERR migrated from Scotland in > 1852. They tried their luck on the Beechworth goldfields before selecting > land on the Oxley plains - Bobinawarrah and Milawa. Later John's brothers, > George Welsh FERGUSON and Douglas Wills FERGUSON joined them. > > I have information about each of these families which I would gladly share > with any FERGUSON researchers. > > Bonnie Joy (nee Ferguson) > thejoys@alphalink.com.au >

My GGrandparents, John FERGUSON and Grace KERR migrated from Scotland in 1852. They tried their luck on the Beechworth goldfields before selecting land on the Oxley plains - Bobinawarrah and Milawa. Later John's brothers, George Welsh FERGUSON and Douglas Wills FERGUSON joined them. I have information about each of these families which I would gladly share with any FERGUSON researchers. Bonnie Joy (nee Ferguson) thejoys@alphalink.com.au

I am hoping someone on the list has this book which as compiled by Capt H Morin Humphreys. Someone in the book is a reference to Hiram Crawford and mentions his helping Captain Cadell build a boat to explore the Murray. Does anyone have this and happy to do a look up for me please? regards Denise

Kath I think this is where I read about it. I am wondering where the records of this would be? It was part of the Presbyterian Church wasn't it. Perhaps the Church may keep records Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Beechworth > Denise > > > > Also another ladies thng was Women's Christian Temperance Union > > There is a paragraph on this in Beechworth A Titan's Field - have you got > it? If not I can scan it as the same time as the poem. Nothing on the > Benevolent Society. > > Kathy > >

I have received notification of a Kimbell/Kimball family reunion to be held in Cooma in November. I know it will be of interest to some people in the local region. The earliest Kimball in Australia from this family was Erasmus Darwin Kimball. He married Mary Reynolds in Cooma in 1865. Their children (all born in Cooma area) are Charles born 1866 who married Eliza Jane Burke Andrew born 1868 who married Agnes Mary Schofield Catherine born 1869 who married John Thomas Farley from Yackandandah. (Their children all born in Albury Wodonga area. Associated surnames include Jackson, Chant, Bouteris, Delahunty to name a few) Mary born 1871 married William Robert Rowson Francis born 1873 John born 1875 Erasmus born 1877 married Catherine Corey. If you are a descendant or think you are and would like to be included or sent more information you can contact; Ellen Waite email grahamandellen@bigpond.com or Gloria Riches from Jindabyne. Fax 02 64562668. Hope this will be of interest. Deb Delahunty