Tommy Hoyle coach driver who worked for Crawford and Co. died on this day. He was workig at 4 am on 18th preparing the coach for the trip from Baddaginnie when the horses took firght and bolted. Tommy was dislodged from the box and crushed under the wheels of the coach. Four passengers were thrown on but none seriously injured. His funeral was well attended. Tom, a well respected member of the community left a wife and family. This accident caused renewed agitation for the fitting to coaches of a safety bolt which could be withdrawn in an emergency allowing the horses to become detached. If anyone is connected to Tommy, I have a newspaper article about him and his untimely death. Denise

the real version is in On This Day in the North EAst - G Jones on 27th February 1868 the north east had an earthquake. Only lasted 4 or 5 seconds but enough to scare the daylights out of grandma. Buildings shook and the cuppa rattled. The Waves appeared to moved in a north to south direction, Beechworth, Stanley, Chiltern and WAng all reported rockin'rollin. It had happened in 1858 when a quake rolled across from Campaspe to the Murray in 58. Mr. Maiden was rowing across the river near present day Moama, and according to tales at the time, the tidal wave nearly overturned his boat! Was it compulsory to have life jackets???? Denise

Hi all A week or so ago, someone emailed this site and asked about the name 'RIDDELL'... from NZ to Australia.Somehow I deleted the message before reading it. Can that person contact me please? Thanks Jo

you have a book that's not indexed.......SO, I have 'indexed' the bio!! This should help us considerably if we do 'communial?' research, swappies over dinner etc etc, as an idea put forth by Denise, or just as a quick reference guide to see who's chasing whom..... Anyway, I can bring copies to the circus if there is a need. To all Bio purchasers thankyou for your support & prompt payment, those that had them posted, I hope all has been rec'd OK & are making wonderful reading. Chris

Chris, These bios are great reading. Thank you, Regards Elaine natwisaus wrote: > you have a book that's not indexed.......SO, I have 'indexed' the bio!! > > This should help us considerably if we do 'communial?' research, swappies > over dinner etc etc, as an idea put forth by Denise, or just as a quick > reference guide to see who's chasing whom..... > > Anyway, I can bring copies to the circus if there is a need. > > To all Bio purchasers thankyou for your support & prompt payment, those > that had them posted, I hope all has been rec'd OK & are making wonderful > reading. > > Chris

Sharon, Found her sister - can't see her. Regards, Terry Digger - Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901 Query ----- Surname : CULHARNE or CULHAM or CULHAME or CULHANE or CULHARNE (41 matches) Event : b (447900 matches) Total matching records: 17 -------------------- Surname: CULHANE Given Names: Mary Ellen Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Pat Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ellen MURPHY Age: Age Code: Birth Place: STAWELL Death Place: Year: 1895 Reg. Number: 32921 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Ross" <sharon@useoz.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:09 PM Subject: [AVNE] Annie Culhane Stawell > Hi All, I am hoping SKP will be able to help us find the Birth of Annie Culhane, she died 1967 aged 70yrs. the death certificate has her born in Stawell in c.1897 but we are unable to find her registered on the Victorian indexes. Her Parents were Patrick Culhane and Mary Murphy. > > Thank You > Regards Sharon > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sharon Ross > Rochester Vic > Names Researching > Lahl, Purcell, Reason, Wilton, Morley, Dillon > Williams in Tasmania > Ross, Arnold, Glasson, Williams in > Victoria > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Rochester Mailing List > to subscribe send "subscribe" to > AUS-VIC-ROCHESTER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > >

Wonderful Robynne, I hope the certificate gives me the place of death at least. He was supposed to have been born in 1817 in Sydney but death certificates are notorious aren't they. Many thanks indeed, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2002 1:54 Subject: Re: [AVNE] George Francis Read, Jun. death > Hi Anne, > > I think this is probably your George > > Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 > > Surname: REED > Given Names: George > Event: D > Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown > Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: > Age: 25 > Sex: > Birth Place: ESSEX > Death Place: > Year: 1854 > Reg Number: 5651 > Denomination: > Parish: > Fiche: > > Cheers, Robynne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anne Hollingshead > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:59 PM > Subject: [AVNE] George Francis Read, Jun. death > > > > I have just read of this death but could not find it in the indexes. Any > suggestions please ? > > "George Francis Read, Jun. death in 1854 at Cargerie, Yararrowie Creek, > near Meredith" > in "Letters from Victorian Pioneers" - T. F. Bride > > If anyone would like a look up from this book I have it for the next week. > > Anne > > > > >

Hi Anne, Would you check if your book on Pioneers contains anything written by a Wolstenholme, Ferguson or McKimmie please? Many thanks, Bonnie Joy. -----Original Message----- From: Anne Hollingshead [mailto:hollies@melbpc.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2002 12:59 PM To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AVNE] George Francis Read, Jun. death I have just read of this death but could not find it in the indexes. Any suggestions please ? "George Francis Read, Jun. death in 1854 at Cargerie, Yararrowie Creek, near Meredith" in "Letters from Victorian Pioneers" - T. F. Bride If anyone would like a look up from this book I have it for the next week. Anne --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.325 / Virus Database: 182 - Release Date: 19/02/2002

Hi Anne, I think this is probably your George Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888 Surname: REED Given Names: George Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Unknown Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Age: 25 Sex: Birth Place: ESSEX Death Place: Year: 1854 Reg Number: 5651 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Hollingshead To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: [AVNE] George Francis Read, Jun. death I have just read of this death but could not find it in the indexes. Any suggestions please ? "George Francis Read, Jun. death in 1854 at Cargerie, Yararrowie Creek, near Meredith" in "Letters from Victorian Pioneers" - T. F. Bride If anyone would like a look up from this book I have it for the next week. Anne

Hi All, I am hoping SKP will be able to help us find the Birth of Annie Culhane, she died 1967 aged 70yrs. the death certificate has her born in Stawell in c.1897 but we are unable to find her registered on the Victorian indexes. Her Parents were Patrick Culhane and Mary Murphy. Thank You Regards Sharon ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sharon Ross Rochester Vic Names Researching Lahl, Purcell, Reason, Wilton, Morley, Dillon Williams in Tasmania Ross, Arnold, Glasson, Williams in Victoria ------------------------------------------------------------------ Rochester Mailing List to subscribe send "subscribe" to AUS-VIC-ROCHESTER-L-request@rootsweb.com

I have just read of this death but could not find it in the indexes. Any suggestions please ? "George Francis Read, Jun. death in 1854 at Cargerie, Yararrowie Creek, near Meredith" in "Letters from Victorian Pioneers" - T. F. Bride If anyone would like a look up from this book I have it for the next week. Anne

Ada hi I certainly hope you don't think I am in any way complaining about the Cd's.! If it wasn't for them, and my using them 2000km from the actual source, I would hve got as far as I have in what I am doing. I think they are a wonderful source, and it is amazing how you can find what you are after, other than the ordinary way of putting data in. Quite often it becomes a game. And take them for granted......no regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada Ackerly" <aackers@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds town spellings > Hello listers, > > When the Victorian Pioneer Cds first came out, I had an interest in > Williamstown, and, by knowing the names of locals, I found 78 ways of > entering Williamstown, including four which began with "S" and dozens of > entries for William spelt "Wiillliam", so it looked as though someone > incorrectly made a macro key for William, but entered the wrong spelling. > > It was entries such as these that caused the registry to allow the work on > corrections to be done. The replacement cdrom is almost typo free. > > However, one should say that the original people were under great pressure > to complete the work to get it out to show state governments that it was > possible, and opened the doors to the production in other states, from > which we all benefit, and now take for granted. > > Regards Ada > > At 15:32 24-02-02 +1000, you wrote: > >I've just spent so much time in the past typing all variations I could think > >of and didn't even then get all the town "mispellings" etc. > > > >Youare a wonder, and I thought you had gone mad, and made them up!!!! > > > >You live, you learn. > > > >Denise > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> > >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:08 PM > >Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > > > that's how I found all the variations of Wooragee for you! Those buttons > >are incredible sometimes and to do a thorough search you HAVE to use them > > > > > regards, > Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia > formerly Ackerly DocuSearch > > >

Hello listers, When the Victorian Pioneer Cds first came out, I had an interest in Williamstown, and, by knowing the names of locals, I found 78 ways of entering Williamstown, including four which began with "S" and dozens of entries for William spelt "Wiillliam", so it looked as though someone incorrectly made a macro key for William, but entered the wrong spelling. It was entries such as these that caused the registry to allow the work on corrections to be done. The replacement cdrom is almost typo free. However, one should say that the original people were under great pressure to complete the work to get it out to show state governments that it was possible, and opened the doors to the production in other states, from which we all benefit, and now take for granted. Regards Ada At 15:32 24-02-02 +1000, you wrote: >I've just spent so much time in the past typing all variations I could think >of and didn't even then get all the town "mispellings" etc. > >Youare a wonder, and I thought you had gone mad, and made them up!!!! > >You live, you learn. > >Denise >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:08 PM >Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > that's how I found all the variations of Wooragee for you! Those buttons >are incredible sometimes and to do a thorough search you HAVE to use them > > regards, Ada Ackerly, Melbourne, Australia formerly Ackerly DocuSearch

Mad I might be but I don't go out of my way to create work, if there's an easier way I'll find it lol Cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds I've just spent so much time in the past typing all variations I could think of and didn't even then get all the town "mispellings" etc. Youare a wonder, and I thought you had gone mad, and made them up!!!! You live, you learn. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds > Hi Denise, > > that's how I found all the variations of Wooragee for you! Those buttons are incredible sometimes and to do a thorough search you HAVE to use them >

Yes, and having great fun and laughs doing it. Thanks Kath........ Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Myles" <kmyles@alphalink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds > Denise > You can use those same buttons to find out variations or mis-spellings of > names . > > Kathy > >

Carol hello. Depending on which church you are speaking of, I do believe that the Beechworth Presbyterian records are in Hamilton , Vict. Other than that, I don't know what records for Beechworth churches do exist . Good luck, and I would like to hear if you find out any more on this subject. regards Denise

I am new to this list but have been reading it with interest for a number of weeks. Just spend a day in Beechworth, visiting the museum, talking to Geoffrey Craig and doing both Stanley and Beechworth cemeteries. I am a direct descendant of James Lishman Wilberforce and Ellen Ashdown, who were one of the pioneering families (no 109 in Rosalyn Shennan's book), through Willard Ashdown Wilberforce who married Ada Prismall, and their daughter Ellen. I was advised that the baptism, marriage and death records of some of the Beechworth churches are intact and was wondering if SKS could point me in the right direction to get lookups or copies of certificates. I have copies of the BDM certificates for the above people, but would be interested in the other certificates available. I would be more than happy to hear from any other people researching this family or the connected families,ie. Corbetts, Colliers, Townsend, Lowing and Simpsons. Carol Dale

Hi Denise, that's how I found all the variations of Wooragee for you! Those buttons are incredible sometimes and to do a thorough search you HAVE to use them Have fun!!!! Cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: [AVNE] BDM cds For those of us lucky enough to have the BDMs for Victoria, have you ever been in the position where you can't find anything for the life of you. Today I was fiddling around with the BDMs and started using the buttons on the right of the look up section (where you put in names etc). Has anyone ever tried not inserting a name of any description but pressing the button on the right. e.g. Death place, click on button and up comes all manner of places. The beauty of this method is that you can see the variations in spelling used on the registrations for towns, eg. Beechworth comes up with a few variations. INsert this name, and you get results. The bottom button gives you parishes. UP comes things which I assume don't show up under normal registrations, e.g. Carl Women. pentridge comes up also under one of these buttons! I never knew this before, haven't delved far enough obviously - but it is amazing what is there which may have been missed because of the spelling. I'm off now to play with names and variations! Denise

I've just spent so much time in the past typing all variations I could think of and didn't even then get all the town "mispellings" etc. Youare a wonder, and I thought you had gone mad, and made them up!!!! You live, you learn. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] BDM cds > Hi Denise, > > that's how I found all the variations of Wooragee for you! Those buttons are incredible sometimes and to do a thorough search you HAVE to use them >

For those of us lucky enough to have the BDMs for Victoria, have you ever been in the position where you can't find anything for the life of you. Today I was fiddling around with the BDMs and started using the buttons on the right of the look up section (where you put in names etc). Has anyone ever tried not inserting a name of any description but pressing the button on the right. e.g. Death place, click on button and up comes all manner of places. The beauty of this method is that you can see the variations in spelling used on the registrations for towns, eg. Beechworth comes up with a few variations. INsert this name, and you get results. The bottom button gives you parishes. UP comes things which I assume don't show up under normal registrations, e.g. Carl Women. pentridge comes up also under one of these buttons! I never knew this before, haven't delved far enough obviously - but it is amazing what is there which may have been missed because of the spelling. I'm off now to play with names and variations! Denise