Hi Folks, There are a couple of options for £ but to find the one that works for you, try this ... this works on a PC - not sure if same options work on a Mac. Using MS-Word - if you use the menu option ... INSERT ... SYMBOL and then select the £ or ¼ or whatever, when you highlight the character you want but BEFORE you press the INSERT, look at the "Shortcut Key" and code above the Insert Button. Not all will work in other applications, but the majority of the basic ones do (with Alt and a number) - so much better seeing "£" than the "L" or "pound". <vbg> Hope that helps .................. Susie Z

Mike There is a reference to Degraves (Wodonga) in a manuscript in a NZ Museum. Alfred Restieaux Manuscripts, this bloke writes he staid at a boarding house owned by Degraves and drove his cart to deliver sly grog about 1860? My interests (Degraves) Richard Lambart Degraves (Barber) lived in Echuca died 1932 (1848 - 1932). Wife was Elizabeth Northwood. Known as Degraves, Degreaves, and Greaves. Rod Greaves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Skurrie" <mskurrie@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: [AVNE] De Graves > Hi folks, > > Anyone out there with anything on the family of my uncle, Robert De Graves? (Born Wodonga 1911, Spouse Ellen Andrews, born out of area at Dandenong). Parents of Robert were John Robert De Graves and Margaret Florence Ritchie). ??The surname also occurs in Wodonga in a related family with a Stanislaus ?? mentioned and ?? in Beechworth in some text references as "the De Graves brothers. > > Thanks for any help, > > Mike Skurrie > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 8/02/02

Hi Denise, That's (if you'll pardon the expression) bloody brilliant! For your next trick can you conjure some of them up? Mike S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Gold and the price thereof. Hold down Alt. type 156 = £

Hi Sharon, (Sharon Ross Rochester Vic Names Researching Lahl, Purcell, Reason, Wilton, Morley, Dillon Williams in Tasmania Ross, Arnold, Glasson, Williams in Victoria) If your Arnold family contains a Gladys May Arnold married to Dennis Lorenzo Calnan (DL's dates 1900 - 70 , locations Avoca and Mildura; sorry don't have GMA's) could you contact me off list please? . Mike Skurrie (mskurrie@bigpond.net.au)

Lorraine Please bare with me for a bit, I have the TOWERS name on both my mother's and my father's side of the family. The names mentioned are more common in my father's family. I have a George John Johnston Towers, he married Mary Gouldbert, now if my information is correct George was born 1828. He was a sea captain. I have the marriage certificate of one of his sons which says he was born Newark, England. I was told they came from Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England. The information that I was given on this family does not all fit in, so I am still checking into it, it is not that easy to check the TOWERS line. Let me know how this fits in with you. You can email me direct at the address below if you would like more information, I have a vast range on the TOWERS line. Kind regards Sharon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ family@vic.australis.com.au Family names that I am researching are: Fry, Towers, Garlick, Wittingslow, Russell, O'Leary

Hello Dorothy, On my MAC it is "Option + 3" together. Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne. > Hi Denise, > > I can't answer your question about the gold price but I would love to know how > you were able to use the pound sign. > > Dorothy >

Hi Sharon I'll be in Euroa tomorrow (Sunday) and will try to get there and get the inscription. I'll let you know how I go. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Ross" <sharon@useoz.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: [AVNE] Headstone at Euroa Cemetery > Hi All, I would like to ask SKP who lives near or visits the Euroa Cemetery regulary to take a photo or write the headstone inscription from the grave of John Pearson ROWE died 1878, I do not have the location but think it would be in the Catholic section. > I am prepared to return the favour at the Rochester Cemetery. > > Thank You > Regards Sharon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sharon Ross > Rochester Vic > Names Researching > Lahl, Purcell, Reason, Wilton, Morley, Dillon > Williams in Tasmania > Ross, Arnold, Glasson, Williams in > Victoria > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Rochester Mailing List > to subscribe send "subscribe" to > AUS-VIC-ROCHESTER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > > >

Hi Denise, I can't answer your question about the gold price but I would love to know how you were able to use the pound sign. Dorothy

Hold down Alt. type 156 = £ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram" <ingram@satlink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Gold and the price thereof. > Hi Denise, > > I can't answer your question about the gold price but I would love to know how you were able to use the pound sign. > > Dorothy > >

Much debate went on during the early years of Beechworth abou what happened to the Golden shoes which were put on Mr. Cameron's horse. The horse was shod at what in Beechworth is now the Golden Horseshoe monument (between B/worth and Woolshed) and then the procession continued on into town. I have an interview given by my GG, Hiram Crawford which tells what did happen to the shoes. I believe it anyway. Hiram at the time was one of the miners at Woolshed. "Mr. Crawford was present on the occasion of the election of Mr. Cameron as the first member of Parliament for the Beechworth district, and was one of those who contributed to the fund for that purpose and for the making of the now celebrated golden shoes for the horse which Mr. Cameron rode in the procession which was formed on the occasion of his return. It has been repeatedly stated that the shoes were borrowed from a circus proprietor known as Tinker Brown, who happened to be in Beechworth at that time, and this story is supported by Mr. McAlister of Golburn in a book of reminiscences published in October of last year, who stated that the shoes were made of brass by a local blacksmith. Mr. Crawford says emphatically that the shoes were made of solid gold, a full set, about the size of slippers. They were made by Mr. Tozer, a jeweller on the creek near Mr. Clarke's hotel. The suggestion to make and use the golden shoes came from Mr. M. O'Neil still living at North Wa! ngaratta, who was amongst the spectators when Mr. Cameron was elected, and who shouted "Begorra, we'll shoe his horse with gold!". The procession of mounted diggers rode from the Woolshed to Beechworth, Mr. Cameron riding a black horse, for which he had given £50. When they reached the town and the ceremony was over, the shoes were taken off the horse and lodged in the Bank of New South Wales. Mr. Crawford states emphatically that Mr. Bigelow (Bright) and Mr. J. Strickland and Mr. Andrew Black (of Chiltern) will bear out this statement." This interview was given in 1908. Does anyone know of the book referred to Mr. McAlister of Golburn in a book of reminiscences published in October of last year, so that would have made the book published in 1907. I wonder if Tozer the jeweller made gg's beautiful pin Isaw in the States and came back and raved about! Sadly, it is still in the States. This stunning piece of jewellery depicts HIram at his camp with all his equipment. Denise

Hi All, I would like to ask SKP who lives near or visits the Euroa Cemetery regulary to take a photo or write the headstone inscription from the grave of John Pearson ROWE died 1878, I do not have the location but think it would be in the Catholic section. I am prepared to return the favour at the Rochester Cemetery. Thank You Regards Sharon ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sharon Ross Rochester Vic Names Researching Lahl, Purcell, Reason, Wilton, Morley, Dillon Williams in Tasmania Ross, Arnold, Glasson, Williams in Victoria ------------------------------------------------------------------ Rochester Mailing List to subscribe send "subscribe" to AUS-VIC-ROCHESTER-L-request@rootsweb.com

In 1852 and 1853 Gold brought £3/5/- per ounce in Beechworth and £3/10/- per ounce in Melbourne. Was the price of gold the same in 1855 and 1856? Hoping someone can fill in yet another gap in my story. I thought some money minded researcher may know the answer. A Scot perhaps? Bu then again, is anyone out there on the list this week?? It's been SO QUIET. Denise

Denise, Can't find any reference in Morgan's Diary before abt 1860 (thogh there is a ref to "Page", no given name). No record in Buckland Cemetery, or Bright. Try & get to Wang earlier... I'm going to give you heaps!! Peter R ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: [AVNE] Buckland > I am wondering if anyone knows of a list of deaths for Buckland perhaps it is in a book. I am speaking of the period during the epidemic - typhoid - which occurred shortly after gold was discovered there. > > Nothing is registered on the BDMs for Buckland before about 1880's so perhaps Beechworth would have been the spot for registration. > > I am looking for a male called PAGE, and possibly Augustus. > > Long shot, but worth trying. > > Thanks everyone > > Denise > >

Your Para 1. Who or what is Morgan's Diary? Thanks for looking anyway. What is the reference please. Page was an American who arrived on the Texas in 1853. AC Page aged 20 (Augustus) and HC Page aged 22. In order to fill in a few blanks in HIram's story, I would dearly love to find out about Augustus in particular. He was cabin mate to my gg Hiram Crawford on the above ship. Whilst they were waiting to sail from New York, they went to Hiram's home town of Oakham in Massachusetts to fill in a few days. It's weird to think that this guy slept in my gg's home, ate from my ggg's table, and he ended up here in Buckland but before meeting on the Texas they didn't know one another. Probably not an unusual case, just that I happened to find out about it. My curiosity is on fire! Your Para 2. My knees are shivering!!!! (son's expression when at 3 years of age we took him to a ghost town - Walhala) Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ross" <rossof@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Buckland > Denise, > > Can't find any reference in Morgan's Diary before abt 1860 (thogh there is a > ref to "Page", no given name). No record in Buckland Cemetery, or Bright. > > Try & get to Wang earlier... I'm going to give you heaps!! > > Peter R > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:05 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Buckland > > > > I am wondering if anyone knows of a list of deaths for Buckland perhaps it > is in a book. I am speaking of the period during the epidemic - typhoid - > which occurred shortly after gold was discovered there. > > > > Nothing is registered on the BDMs for Buckland before about 1880's so > perhaps Beechworth would have been the spot for registration. > > > > I am looking for a male called PAGE, and possibly Augustus. > > > > Long shot, but worth trying. > > > > Thanks everyone > > > > Denise > > > > >

I am wondering if anyone knows of a list of deaths for Buckland perhaps it is in a book. I am speaking of the period during the epidemic - typhoid - which occurred shortly after gold was discovered there. Nothing is registered on the BDMs for Buckland before about 1880's so perhaps Beechworth would have been the spot for registration. I am looking for a male called PAGE, and possibly Augustus. Long shot, but worth trying. Thanks everyone Denise

Looking for anything on Dr. Hutchinson who cared for the dying in Buckland's fever epidemic in 1854. He later moved to Queensland, returned to Chiltern, and eventually set up practice in Wangaratta and S. Kilda. Anything at all would be wonderful, was a friend of the gg's Denise

As a member of the group, I have changed my email address old address .....claire@ergo.com.au NEW ADDRESS....clairet@bigpond.net.au

Peter, thanks very much for that help. Mike Skurrie.

Hi Sharon Interested in your Towers. All I have is George TOWERS B abt 1837 and his wife Maria. B abt 1839 surname unknown. Children Laura b 1860., then I have Harry,Frederick George, Arhtur, Ellen, Clara,Charles,Alfred and Emily. They are all younger than Laura. They came from Birmingham. England. I only know of Laura comming to Australia. I don't know if anyone else did. Let's know if this is your family Regards Lorraine Key Family wrote: > Hi list > > I am new to this list and I just thought I would write and let people know > what names I am looking for in this area. > > These families lived mainly in the Alexandra, Mansfield, Shepparton area and > some in the Heathcote area if this is not too far out. > > TOWERS > FRY > CRAWLEY > > If anyone can help it would be great > > Kind regards > Sharon > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > family@vic.australis.com.au > Family names that I am researching are: Fry, Towers, Garlick, Wittingslow, > Russell, O'Leary

H.B. Loch was born in Scotland in 1827 and had an active global career as a soldier, diplomat and administrator. He was knighted in 1880 and became Victoria's 7th. Governor in July 1884. I have seen reference to his visiting Mt Buffalo in 1881 prior to his becoming Governor. There are other references to his visiting the Harrietville gold fields but this may or may not have been on the same Buffalo trip. It may have been later in his role as Governor. Has anyone seen any reference to what was/were the date(s) of the Harrietville visit(s) ? I have also seen reference to a possible 1853/53 H.B.L. visit to Australia & NZ 30 years before he became Governor. Has anyone perhaps seen a biography that might confirm this? Pat Morgan Corte Madera, California