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    1. Re: [AVNE] More Obituary lookups offered
    2. Denise McMahon
    3. Congratulations and many thanks to all who have contributed. That Obit section is unbelievable, what a lot of work. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lakeman" <surreal@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: [AVNE] More Obituary lookups offered > Hello AUS-VIC-NEsters, > > My sincere thanks to Pamela Lockwood who has added another 370 entries to > the AVNE obituaries page. Having to add Pamela's entries, I can only > imagine the huge amount of work that has gone into collecting this info. > > Pamela's entries add to the initial entries provided by Kaye and brings the > total to just under 600 entries. > > As a reminder, the obituary pages are a list of obituaries, death reports > and inquest reports which Kaye and Pamela have collected from local papers > of the day and are willing to do transcriptions of entries for interested > people. > > As the page is now very large, it has been split into two, and the best way > to get there is from the links on the Resources page at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/Resources/resources.html > > Again thanks to both Pamela and Kaye for their excellent work. > > Cheers > > Peter >

    03/15/2002 03:25:01
    1. [AVNE] More Obituary lookups offered
    2. Peter Lakeman
    3. Hello AUS-VIC-NEsters, My sincere thanks to Pamela Lockwood who has added another 370 entries to the AVNE obituaries page. Having to add Pamela's entries, I can only imagine the huge amount of work that has gone into collecting this info. Pamela's entries add to the initial entries provided by Kaye and brings the total to just under 600 entries. As a reminder, the obituary pages are a list of obituaries, death reports and inquest reports which Kaye and Pamela have collected from local papers of the day and are willing to do transcriptions of entries for interested people. As the page is now very large, it has been split into two, and the best way to get there is from the links on the Resources page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/Resources/resources.html Again thanks to both Pamela and Kaye for their excellent work. Cheers Peter

    03/15/2002 01:51:52
    1. Re: [AVNE] Devitt
    2. Denise McMahon
    3. Marylou Are you able to give me anything on James J Devitt and where he belonged in the north east. I am curious as to the reason why a cutting of his death would be in a scrap book of the 1800's which belonged to my great-grandfather. I am wondering if it was a business or family connection. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "marylou" <marylou@cbl.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Devitt > Yes Denise > He and they are one of mine.If you know what l mean > Regards Marylou > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, 10 March 2002 17:44 > Subject: [AVNE] Devitt > > > >Does anyone know of this name in the north east? In particular James J. > Devitt > > > >Denise > > > >

    03/15/2002 10:35:35
    1. [AVNE] RESEARCH
    2. Kevin Lemon
    3. ROBERT WILLIAM WITHERS B.PLEASANT CREEK 1876 M.ADA BEATRICE CAROLINE SCOTT 1905 WANGARATTA D.1930 SANDRINGHAM.WW1 VETERAN. DAIRY FARM POSSIBLY BEECHWORTH AREA 1920'SGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    03/15/2002 10:12:32
    1. Re: [AVNE] Devitt
    2. marylou
    3. Yes Denise He and they are one of mine.If you know what l mean Regards Marylou -----Original Message----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, 10 March 2002 17:44 Subject: [AVNE] Devitt >Does anyone know of this name in the north east? In particular James J. Devitt > >Denise >

    03/15/2002 08:26:44
    1. [AVNE] Descendants of Richard ROWE
    2. Barton Cottage
    3. Dear list, This is to let those who might be interested know that there will be a gathering of descendants of Richard ROWE (c1819-1903) in Beechworth on 27 April 2002. It will be held at the LaTrobe University, Hotel Management Conference Centre. The intention is to have a number of researchers make short presentations on where they have got to on their particular branches of the family. Other program details are in preparation. As background I have prepared the following short history of this Rowe family's emigration from Cornwall to the Beechworth area. Those interested in attending or finding out more about the arrangements should contact Eric Harrison at eric.harrison@bigpond.com who is organizing the day. Those who have queries about any of the names in the following are welcome to contact me. Thanks, John Burgess, Canberra background piece begins The ROWEs of Madron : from South West Cornwall to North East Victoria Richard Rowe, the focus of the family gathering in Beechworth on 27 April, was born in Madron, near Penzance in south west Cornwall, probably early in 1819. We know for certain that he was christened in the Madron parish church on 19 February of that year. His father was John ROWE (1787-1874), a ‘cordwainer’ or maker of fine footwear, and his mother was born Mary WALLIS (c1781-1867). Richard, who we believe to have been John and Mary’s fourth and last child, and a number of his close relatives from Cornwall were to settle in and around Beechworth in north eastern Victoria. The first of this ROWE family to depart Cornwall was John and Mary’s second child, James ROWE, who was christened in Madron on 3 March 1811. A carpenter, he had married twice in Cornwall (his first wife appears to have died young) and he and his second wife, Mary ROWE (also her maiden name but no relation) sailed for Sydney on the 'William Mitcalfe' arriving in March 1844. A few days later they sailed on to Hobart on the 'Sylvanus'. The couple had 5 children in Tasmania between 1845 and 1852 but the marriage appears to have collapsed. James then turns up first in Williamstown, Melbourne, and later in Beechworth where he and Amelia TONKIN, a third partner (no marriage has been found), registered another 5 children between 1858 and 1864, the last three of whom were born in Bowman’s Forest out of Beechworth. James died in 1867 in the house of his sister Mary who by then was living in Beechworth. Little is known about Amelia TONKIN who seems to have left James before his death. Surnames of James’ descendants will include ROBERTS, WOOLLEY, DOBSON, WARREN, LANGSHAW, POWER, DREYER, FOX, McLEAN and PEACOCK. James’ sister, Mary ROWE (1817-1904), was the next to leave Cornwall. She arrived in Port Adelaide on the ‘Himalaya’ in November 1849 with three children. Her husband, Robert MITCHELL whom she had married in Madron in 1836, died of cholera on the ship in Plymouth on the eve of departure and Mary must have made the brave decision to continue out to Australia alone. She married Charles Colwell OKE, a Cornishman from Truro, in Adelaide in 1851 and had two further children there. In the mid-1850s, Charles, a printer, accepted a position with Richard WARREN’s ‘Ovens and Murray Advertiser’ in Beechworth and the family moved there. It was probably Mary’s residence in Beechworth at this time that drew her two brothers there. Mary and Charles had two further children in Beechworth. Mary’s first child, Mary Ann MITCHELL, married Richard WARREN, the newspaper proprietor, in Beechworth in 1856 and after James ROWE’s death this couple adopted one of his children. Surnames of Mary ROWE’s descendants in the Beechworth area will include STRAUGHAIR as well as MITCHELL and OKE. Richard, the fourth child of John and Mary ROWE, his first wife Kitty née MICHELL (c1818-1873) who was from the parish of Zennor, and their four children sailed from Plymouth to the port of East Geelong in Victoria on the ‘Thomas Arbuthnot’ arriving in January 1857. They went straight to Beechworth and Richard was soon farming at Murmungee out of Beechworth. All four children of this first marriage married in the north east: Catherine Michell ROWE married Robert Joseph PYLE of Lower Three Mile, the family that was struck down by typhoid fever in 1889 and was recently featured in the Burke Museum in Beechworth; James ROWE married Agnes Campbell GLASS and moved on to farm in New South Wales; Mary Hannah ROWE married George Richard PORTCH of Chiltern; and Nanny Jane ROWE married John Alfred KNEEBONE of Gapsted. Other surnames of descendants of Richard from this first marriage include SPENCER, LEE, DEAM, CLARK, JOWETT, BROCKFIELD, SHELDON, BURGESS, SWORDS, HARRIS, STENBERG, GILMOUR, GRIFFITHS, HENDRY, SKERRY, HELMS, ROGERS, LILYWHITE, WALLACE, CHEESELY, EDWARDS, WHITE, SMITH, TREWHITT, BEILHATZ, HOGAN, TREHARNE, ROBERTSON, GILL, ALLAN, JARRY, SMALL, CREEK, PERRY, RASMUSSEN, SCHMIDT, SUTTON, KEENAN, McCLOUD, CARSON, HUGHES, WRIGHT, McKASKILL, RESUGGAN, HOTCHKIN, MEINZER, BROUGHTON, LECOULTRE, LAIRD, BELLINGER, WOODGATE and FARLEY. Richard remarried after first wife Kitty died in 1873. His second wife, Elizabeth Ann ROWE (also her maiden name but no relation to Richard), was only 16 at the time of the marriage in Beechworth in 1876. Richard was then 57. They produced another 8 children. Richard died in the Ovens Benevolent Asylum in Beechworth on 4 March 1903 aged 84. Elizabeth Ann died in Melbourne in 1930 after a further marriage. Surnames of descendants from Richard’s second marriage will include: HARRISON, SYKES, CLAY, HERRERA, MONSON, NEAVES, WALLER, HUTCHINSON, LUDLOW, GOLDSTONE, JUDD, BARNES, EWINGTON, RUIZ, CAMPBELL, DAWSON, RILEY, BERTRAM, BAXTER, TAGGART and BENNETT. Richard’s older children from his first marriage were in their 30’s at the time of this second marriage and there are some indications that they took a dim view of it. It is only in recent times that descendants of the two marriages have become aware of each other. A number of them will meet for the first time in Beechworth on 27 April. To conclude the story, the oldest child of John and Mary ROWE of Madron was John (born c1809) and it seems he stayed on in Cornwall carrying on his father’s cordwaining business and the farm his father had acquired in Madron. It has come to light recently, however, that two of John’s daughters migrated to the Beechworth area in 1859, married and raised families there. Surnames of their descendants will include WOOD and WELLS, the names of the husbands they found in Beechworth. John Burgess 14 March 2002 ends

    03/15/2002 03:43:09
    1. Re: [AVNE] Benalla news papers
    2. Bob Jones
    3. There used to be a "Northcote Leader" around the 1940-50's. It was part of the group that published the "Coburg Courier" and "Preston Post". Might have been the Leader Publishing but not sure. Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: judy coates <jacoates@satlink.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [AVNE] Benalla news papers > Hi Can anyone tell me if Benalla had a news paper calles " The Leader" I am transcribeing my Great Grand fathers War Diaries from WW1 aand he mentions being sent the Leader but I'm not too sure it came from the North East or from the Melbourne area. Dose anyone have any ideas. > Cheers, > Judy > jacoates@satlink.com.au > >

    03/15/2002 02:42:13
    1. [AVNE] World War I and the North-East
    2. Steve Painter and Rose McCann
    3. The Atheneum Museum at Chiltern recently added to its collection a display of photographs of soldiers who enlisted from the area and short biogs. Almost complete, I think. They were still trying to track down one or two. Steve Painter

    03/15/2002 01:56:36
    1. [AVNE] link for police
    2. Denise McMahon
    3. http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/loh/police.htm for police salaries, officers, sherrifs in B/worth

    03/14/2002 05:55:35
    1. [AVNE] WW1 and the north east
    2. Denise McMahon
    3. http://www.awm.gov.au/journal/j33/mcquilton.htm a very good site for those with an interest in the north east and of those who served. Scroll to the bottom and read of the nurses from the north east who served. Some are named Denise

    03/14/2002 05:33:04
    1. Re: [AVNE] fIRST aID
    2. Terry & Eileen
    3. WHAT/? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmel & Len Fitzgerald" <strathcarmel@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: [AVNE] fIRST aID > I think a bug got into someone's computer! >

    03/14/2002 03:52:32
    1. [AVNE] fIRST aID
    2. Carmel & Len Fitzgerald
    3. I think a bug got into someone's computer!

    03/14/2002 02:30:31
    1. [AVNE] Coach Drivers and photo
    2. Denise McMahon
    3. I have a photo of the Coachdrivers' chorus. The names are - G.J. Mackay T. Jenning G. Morris F. Macmullen J.C....... W. Crawford H. Mason F. SMiley C. Alford Otley /Ottey A. Partington G. Dallas G. Davis W. Britton Anyone know these men, I'm happy to scan Denise

    03/14/2002 01:16:51
    1. Re: [AVNE] Indented Head?
    2. Susie Zada
    3. Hi Folks, Can I just clear up a few of the mistakes relating to "Indented Head", just in case it's passed on to others and leads people astray. Indented Head isn't a "suburb of Geelong" - in fact it's more than 30 Km from Geelong! The town of Indented Head did not exist in the 1800s, although it marks the site of the landing of John Batman and the Port Phillip Association in 1835. In the 1800s, .... Indented Head was the name used for the WHOLE Bellarine Peninsula. Indented Head was the name of the registration district for BDMs for the Bellarine Peninsula. Indented Head was the name of the first "council" - the Indented Head Road Board - which later became the Shire of Bellarine. Hope that helps ................. Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robynne" <whitehse@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Indented Head? > Indented Head is a suburb not far from Geelong, in Victoria > > cheers, Robynne

    03/14/2002 12:30:07
    1. [AVNE] McMILLAN Victoria
    2. Irene Rees
    3. Not sure if you realise that you bounced off the AUS-VIC-NE list in July last year I could have forwarded this post to the list, but you wouldn't have seen the replies. So feel welcome to re sub to the list and re post your query. Thanks very much Peter. I had not realised I was off the list. Just thought it was very quiet. Will re post my query below. >Hello Listers > >I wonder if anyone could please help me? My husband has McMILLAN >ancestors from Ireland and I am seeking information on two of >them. Alexander Rowan McMILLAN, just by looking at a newspaper clipping >(with no date) seems to have been born c. 1900 - 1920. He had an >ancestor, Archibald McMILLAN which the clipping states > >"was one of the first settlers north of the Great Dividing Range, and at >one time had holdings in the Wimmera and Gippsland as well, and his mother >can trace the line back to King Vrych of Powis in Wales". > >Is anyone able to point me in the right direction for this family >please? Other of our McMILLANs settled around Chewton, Bendigo, >Castlemaine and Creswick. > >Thank you hopefully. > >Irene Rees - Gold Coast ex Gippsland, Australia. > >Site Host: Beechworth and Myrtleford Vic., Forbes N.S.W. BDM sites on >Tracking Our Family Footsteps through Time in Australia. >http://www.angelfire.com/ns/aust >Also researching: >DUNSTAN - Cornwall 1844+ >LEYSHON - Glamorgan, Wales 1800+ >McMILLAN - Newtonards, Co. Down, IRL 1800+ >PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ >REES - Glamorgan, Wales 1820+ >PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ >SCARLETT - Suffolk, Eng 1750+ >BARTLETT - Wollein, Prussia 1822+, Tasmania, Aus. 1858+ >CARMICHAEL - Moray, Scot. 1790+, Tasmania, Aus, 1820+ >DOWSETT - Essex, Eng. 1840+ >McHENRY - Dublin, IRL 1800+ >NOLAN - Ardfert, Co. Kerry, IRL 1810+ >RATH - Clogher, Co. Louth, IRL 1750+ >SIMS - Staffs. Eng. 1800+ Irene Rees - Gold Coast ex Gippsland, Australia. Site Host: Beechworth and Myrtleford Vic., Forbes N.S.W. BDM sites on Tracking Our Family Footsteps through Time in Australia. http://www.angelfire.com/ns/aust Also researching: DUNSTAN - Cornwall 1844+ LEYSHON - Glamorgan, Wales 1800+ McMILLAN - Newtonards, Co. Down, IRL 1800+ PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ REES - Glamorgan, Wales 1820+ PHILPOT - Essex, Eng 1750+ SCARLETT - Suffolk, Eng 1750+ BARTLETT - Wollein, Prussia 1822+, Tasmania, Aus. 1858+ CARMICHAEL - Moray, Scot. 1790+, Tasmania, Aus, 1820+ DOWSETT - Essex, Eng. 1840+ McHENRY - Dublin, IRL 1800+ NOLAN - Ardfert, Co. Kerry, IRL 1810+ RATH - Clogher, Co. Louth, IRL 1750+ SIMS - Staffs. Eng. 1800+

    03/14/2002 12:29:58
    1. [AVNE] Virus Warning
    2. Peter Lakeman
    3. Hello AUS-VIC-NEsters, Please delete any personal email that you may receive directly from "betty and michael ginnane" at <beadmi@iprimus.com.au> or <ceadmi@iprimus.com.au> They have the Magistr virus which is why some of their personal information was sent to the list. As usual, Rootsweb's procedure prevented the virus attachment from going to the list members and kept them safe. However, the virus may also be sent directly to people that were in their address book. So delete any messages from this address. Cheers Peter Lakeman

    03/13/2002 02:54:46
    1. [AVNE] Indented head
    2. Brujo
    3. Thanks to the many folk who replied to my query about Indented Head. At least now, I know a little about the place. Thanks to all Jo

    03/13/2002 10:42:08
    1. Re: [AVNE] Indented Head?
    2. Robynne
    3. Indented Head is a suburb not far from Geelong, in Victoria cheers, Robynne ----- Original Message ----- From: Brujo To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: [AVNE] Indented Head? This will probably seem a silly question to some, but can anyone tell me what or where is ' Indented Head'? I found it on an entry on the Australas BDM site and am a little confused about it's meaning. I thought at first it may mean a birth defect, but am not so sure now. Appreciate anyone who can clear it up for me.

    03/13/2002 10:34:23
    1. Re: [AVNE] Indented Head?
    2. Ron Smith
    3. Indented Head is a seaside town between Portarlinton and St Leonards on the Bellarine Peninsular in Victoria about 35 km from Geelong. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brujo" <bnjbaker@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:58 AM Subject: [AVNE] Indented Head? > This will probably seem a silly question to some, but can anyone tell me what or where is ' Indented Head'? > > I found it on an entry on the Australas BDM site and am a little confused about it's meaning. I thought at first it may mean a birth defect, but am not so sure now. Appreciate anyone who can clear it up for me. > >

    03/13/2002 10:01:57
    1. Re: [AVNE] MCNAMARA Help Please
    2. robynclarke
    3. Yes Joy, that's my next move. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Bell To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] MCNAMARA Help Please Hallo Robyn Maybe if you contacted the Shepparton Family history group they may be able to help. With no other name but the surname you are probably going on a wild goose chase as you say. I don't know that I have anything else to suggest. I wish you luck regards Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: robynclarke <robynclarke1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] MCNAMARA Help Please > Thanks Joy for your message. I'm afraid I only have the surname McNamara of Shepparton and the date of around the 1880's. This particular family took in my husband's grandfather WILLIAM EDWARD CLARKE as a youngster after the death of his sister, Alice Clarke in Avenel in 1877. His parents, Thomas and Maria Clarke may have separated it is not known. He also had a brother, Henry Wilkinson Clarke who may have been with the McNamaras as well, as the boys were born 1864 and 1863 in Heathcote. > > After years of searching we have never found the whereabouts of the parents. > > It's a wild goose chase really, but I've just got to try and piece it together if I can. > > Robyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joy Bell > To: AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] MCNAMARA Help Please > > > Hallo Robyn > > McNAMARA is a well known name around Numurkah / Shepparton area. Would you > have more details? > > Joy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: robynclarke <robynclarke1@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:18 PM > Subject: [AVNE] MCNAMARA Help Please > > > > Looking for a family who lived in the SHEPPARTON area in the 1880's called > MCNAMARA. > > Can anyone help please? > > > > Robyn Clarke > > N.S.W. > > > > > > >

    03/13/2002 09:37:05