Publicans were known to start a few rumours. It was rather a dangerous method of advertising, for the publican. A publican would spread word that gold had been found near his pub. Morgan was a publican in Black Dog Creek and one day he found himself standing on the edge of a mine shaft with a rope around his neck. The miners had accused him of spreading a falsie. Being good miners they decided to check first, and LOW, BEHOLD, they found gold in what was going to become MOrgan's grave. Morgan was very happy. As an aside - the man employed by Morgan to prosepct for gold was named John Conness - and Chiltern's famous street is called Conness after him. Denise - Qld

Everyone knows that the Burke Museum was once the Beechworth Library which in 1863 added the O"Hara Burke Memorial Musuem. It was extended in 1874, remodelled n 1961. When Burke was dying after his epic walk, he asked that his revolver be placed by his side - it read - "Presented to Captain Burke by the Residents of Beechworth, Victoria". Robert O"Hara Burke was Captain of Police in Beechworth and was known in the area for his lack of bushsense. He then decided to walk across Australia! Denise

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"Important to Farmers" The Try Again Gold and Tin MIning Company, No Liability, El Dorado Notice - A CALL (the 7th) of 6d per share on the capital of the company has been made payable at the company's office, Mackay-Street, El Dorado, on Wednesday the 12th September, 1883. H.Horrocks Manager"

The district around Tarrawingee came into being with surprising suddenness when the cry "unlock the land" was heeded by the government. Par tof Dr. Edward Mackay's run was opened up. by 1857 the area was taking on the appearnce of the English countryside. Tarrawingee became the stopping pace ofr coaches on the long haul from Melbourne to Ovens and a meeting place for district settlers. One of the earliest businessmen was Hopton Nolan widely known for his 50 years association with the towns longest serving hotel the Plough Inn. He had been a public most of his adult life and was a close associate of John A Wallace (Star HOtel man) at Stanley when it was known as 9mile. He moved to Chiltern, looked after John's ineests there and then moved to Tarrawingee. He died in 1910. The Plough Inn was a single story structure and the second story was added in 1867. The other prominent building in the town is Ladson's Store which took it sname from Ladson Bros. when began as store keepers in early Beechworth. The Nolan family used this store years later as a private home but eventually it fell into disrepair. It was added to the National Trust in 1984 and was then renovated and restored to its original condition.

Dear all, In some handwritten notes from Geoff Craig, he lists my James Wilberforce as being rated for 319 acres of land at what looks like Bruarong or Burarong or Bruraray. His writing is difficult to read. Can anybody help? Carol Dale Researching Wilberforces and associated families in Beechworth

Does anyone have the followng book and can get in touch with me please? Men of Cobb and Co. E.J. Aisbett 1940 - Old Coach Drivers' Associaton regards Denise

Hello there Terry, Received that information ok.Thanks a lot.It's funny you know,I was born in W.Wyalong yet never gave it a thought when delving for those marriages. I always assumed that they were married in the state of their birth.Mum never talked much about the family sadly so I knew very little about that side. Just one query though.Was Lindsay Withers place of birth given in your search?If so could you let me know as I have been unable to trace him? Thanks again for your help. Regards Kevin. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Trying to find contacts in Australia - or even Ireland - for the following Connolly people Connolly - Peter of Kilcarring and Johanna Fenlon of Curracruit had - Edward b July 14 1839 Micahel b May 17 1840 James born August 22 1841 Thomas born Nov 20 1842 Mary born July 11 1844 Catherine born April 19 1846 Peter born Oct 15 1848 John born circa 1850 The following people were recorded as having left Ireland but for where is doubtful apart from Michael and Thomas. Michael left Ireland Nov 10 1857 and settled in Beechworth Victoria where he became a partner in the firm of H.A. Crawford and Co - later Crawford and Connolly. Michael raised a family in Beechworth but died in 1880. Meanwhile his brother Thomas had arrived in Beechworth and after MIchael's death took over Michael's share. Michael had two children who survived to adulthood Edward Peter born 1868 died Melbouren 1941 and William John born 1864 who died 1899. We are looking for any descendants of these sons, Edward and William, and descendants of Michael and Thomas' siblings. WE have much information to share . regards Denise and Cecily

Yes Please Chris I am looking for the John McInnes/Elizabeth Gillespie Family who lived in the Whitfield Area and some seem to have moved onto the Corrong Area. There names are Hyland Robertson McInnes b 1864 Oxley Vic James (Jim) McInnes b 1866 Oxley Vic Mary Alice McInnes b 1870 Oxley Vic Robert Ewing McInnes b 1881 Moyhu Vic Thank you so much. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "natwisaus" <natwisaus@albury.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: [AVNE] The beautiful Upper Murray > Hi all > Am spending a few days in Corryong soon, is there anything anybody would > like chased???? > Chris >

Water in 1874, was turned on in Beechworth. Victoria Soclitor General , G.B. Kerford, opened the valve and released water from Lake Kerferd in the hills above the town. Frederick Brown (a Beechworth longtime stalwart) held a hose and directed the Kerferd water in an awe inspiring stream as high as the post office tower. -- 2/4/1874 - another happening in Beechwoth. The Newtown Bridge - the beautiful stone bridge on the Wangaratta side of Beechworth shops (down the hill and near the petrol station). the foundation stone was laid on this day and the bridge was completed the following year. Solid as a rock and it crosses Spring Creek and the mining race cut into the rock -- Euroa processing works 1894. was opened at Longwood producing canned rabbit for the UK market. Trappers were paid between 3p and 4p per pair, the rabbits then cleaned, packed in cans. Eventuallly with the onset of refrigeration a wing to shipment o rabbits in carcass form led to the factory being moved to Euroa where it diversified into chooks and veges. By the turn of the 20th century the factory had closed.

extracted from On this Day in the North East - Graham Jones 1855On 1stApril 1855 the old Assumbly Rooms reopned as the Salle De Valentino. The hall had been undergoing renovations for several months under the guidance of the renowned London and Melbourne catering maestro James Ellis. Ellis advertised a Grand Ball and Prmenade Cenert every evening at 1/- admission and patrons could listen to the best musicians who could be lured to the goldfields. 1860 ALL FOOLS DAY In Chiltern Doctors and Lawyers were awakened by midnight calls to attend imaginary emergencies. They would go to some poor soul sleeping soundly, thinking they were attending to the ill and taking death bed wishes, only to hear from the "ill one" NO NO NO 1899 Jean McNamara was born on this day in 1899. She became one of Australia's most desitinguished medical pioneers. Born in Beechworth her remains on her death wer cremated and returned to Beechworth (1968) where as per her wish, she is laid to rest under a rock she remembered so well from her early days in town. This rock now stands in the C/E section not far from the front gate, is a large rock and on the rock is a plaque. I saw it last week. Quite different to the surround graves and quite impressive. Jean McNamara pioneered teatment for the effects of polio and was instrumetnal in bringing about he control of Australia's rabbit population by her efforts to introduce mysomatosis. Denise

Carol, whether Expert is the description I doubt But last week when I was at Burke M doing exactly what you want this is what was found -- Each book came in a year or two of rates for example 1881-2 and 1882-3 Name Street, sometimes the allotment and Section #, owner/landlord (i.e. if first Named is owner, it said owner, if it was rented it gave landlords name. What the property was used for. e.g. house land 5 acres, crops etc. etc. Sometimes you got the rates £ value But each year varied. To find the property you would have to see the parish maps etc etc from the Shire Council which is just behind the Burke Museum - you can walk to it - 1 minute. Hope this helps Denise - Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dale" <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: [AVNE] Information in rate records > I am considering requesting research on the rates records held in the Burke > Museum for the properties listed for my ggggrandfather, James Lishman > Wilberforce, but before I do, can anybody tell me what the rates records > contain ie. the type of information that I will get if I get the research > done. I was hoping to get addresses of the properties, so that I can take > photos of them (if they are still there, which is more than likely doubtful). > > I have quite a number of references over many years span, so unless the > information will be useful, I will need to consider if it will be money > well spent. > > Expert advice on this would be appreciated. > > Carol Dale > Researching Wilberforces and related families in Beechworth > >

Hi all Am spending a few days in Corryong soon, is there anything anybody would like chased???? Chris

I am considering requesting research on the rates records held in the Burke Museum for the properties listed for my ggggrandfather, James Lishman Wilberforce, but before I do, can anybody tell me what the rates records contain ie. the type of information that I will get if I get the research done. I was hoping to get addresses of the properties, so that I can take photos of them (if they are still there, which is more than likely doubtful). I have quite a number of references over many years span, so unless the information will be useful, I will need to consider if it will be money well spent. Expert advice on this would be appreciated. Carol Dale Researching Wilberforces and related families in Beechworth

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Dear Doug, I've traced our McLaren/McLaurin line back to the early 1700's They originated in Perthshire. I have the areas of Kenmore and Kilmadock I'll send a brief genealogy report to you on your email address. Regards, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Pat MacLaren-Smith" <youknow@nor.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cullen Wahgunyah > Hi Judy and Margaret > I note that there is a McLaurin up your Tree? there is also one up my Tree. > He came from Rattray Perthshire Scotland. I wonder if there is any > connection > Regards > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Kennedy" <marken@mcmedia.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cullen Wahgunyah > > > > Dear Judy, > > I believe I might have a little extra information on the Cullen line. > > Angus Fraser Cullen born 1872,Albury NSW was the son of William Cullen > and > > Janette Fraser. > > Janette Fraser was born 1838 Nova Scotia. > > Her father Angus Fraser was born 1808 & died 1890, Woodend Vic. > > Sorry I haven't studied the Agnes Reynolds line but may be able to get > > information from other relatives on that line. Perhaps you could provide > a > > brief chart to me showing the details of what you have already, so I can > > ask an elderly relative. in case she has extra info. > > My association is with a Cullen marrying a McLaurin. > > My 4x g,grandfather was a McLaurin. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Margaret Kennedy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric and Judy Douthie" <douth@dingoblue.net.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:03 PM > > Subject: [AVNE] Cullen Wahgunyah > > > > > > > Is there anybody on the list who is researching the Cullen family of > > > Wahgunyah? > > > I am particularly interested in Agnes Reynolds who married Angus Fraser > > > CULLEN in 1910. > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > Regards > > > Judy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Can anyone advise me if there is a way of telling the age of a photo. Found one in my late Mother's belongings taken in Manchester UK. It could be either her brother or her father. It has the name of the photographer stamped on and a hand written number. Carmel

Hi Judy and Margaret I note that there is a McLaurin up your Tree? there is also one up my Tree. He came from Rattray Perthshire Scotland. I wonder if there is any connection Regards Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Kennedy" <marken@mcmedia.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cullen Wahgunyah > Dear Judy, > I believe I might have a little extra information on the Cullen line. > Angus Fraser Cullen born 1872,Albury NSW was the son of William Cullen and > Janette Fraser. > Janette Fraser was born 1838 Nova Scotia. > Her father Angus Fraser was born 1808 & died 1890, Woodend Vic. > Sorry I haven't studied the Agnes Reynolds line but may be able to get > information from other relatives on that line. Perhaps you could provide a > brief chart to me showing the details of what you have already, so I can > ask an elderly relative. in case she has extra info. > My association is with a Cullen marrying a McLaurin. > My 4x g,grandfather was a McLaurin. > > Best Wishes, > Margaret Kennedy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric and Judy Douthie" <douth@dingoblue.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 6:03 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Cullen Wahgunyah > > > > Is there anybody on the list who is researching the Cullen family of > > Wahgunyah? > > I am particularly interested in Agnes Reynolds who married Angus Fraser > > CULLEN in 1910. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards > > Judy > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Denise, Thanks for the info on the McLuckies. At a quick glance , I don't think these three are in my direct line. James and Robert were brothers. Re James Moncrieff. He was born 1831 at Walls, Shetland Isles.Sct. He died 1898 at Scrubby Creek in the Mitta Mitta area. His father was John and his mother was Margt. Sinclair. There are two marriages listed to a Jas. Moncrieff ,likely to be the one we are looking for I think it could be the same person marrying twice Jas married Eliza Lawley 1865 Vic. Jas married Ellen Kennedy 1876 Vic. At a quick glance didn't find any children to Jas., but his brother Alexander had quite a few in the Mitta area. ( I haven't had a lot of time for research today) Regards, Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] more cemetery names - Beechworth > Margaret, yes I would love more on James if you can - Imay be able to work > out if he was the driver. > > Here is the cemetery information - > > James McLuckie aged 43 late residence Yarrawonga buried 16th April 1894 > Presbyterian Secton A # 1360 -cause of death Phthisis > > Robert McLuckie aged 50 of Sydney Rd Beechworth Plasterer buried 11/8/1870 > Presbyterian died of Ileus > > William McLuckie 64 years Yarrawonga buried 1/10/1912 by Rev McLeod > Presbyterian Section A #1359. > > Hope this helps > > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Kennedy" <marken@mcmedia.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] more cemetery names - Beechworth > > > > Dear Denise, > > I have McLuckie on my family tree. > > James McLuckie , born Scotland married Elizabeth McDonald , born Victoria, > > in Victoria in 1885 > > I believe their daughter Jennifer was born at Beechworth in 1886 > > > > I have a James Moncrieff living at Mitta Mitta in the 1870,s. I don't know > > if he were the driver you wanted.I can give you more details if you would > > like them > > > > Thanks > > Margaret Kennedy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:41 AM > > Subject: [AVNE] more cemetery names - Beechworth > > > > > > > Hi everyone. MOre names from the Beechworth burials. I'm only > putting > > surnames down today, but if you have anyone with that name, email if you > > want more, giving me the christian names. regards Denise > > > > > > McLeod > > > McLine > > > McLoughlin > > > McLuckie > > > McMahon > > > McManns > > > McManus > > > McMaster > > > McMillan > > > McMinn > > > McMonigle > > > McMorran > > > McMurray > > > > > > there are several different people for most of the above names > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >