Thanks Ernene, I actually have been past this Museum but never in it. Must do so soon, regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prasser, Smedley" <ernene@oasys.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > Denise, I have extracts from a book called "The Lights of Cobb & Co" by Ken > Austin. > The book that you want would more than likely be held in Toowoomba as it is > a Cobb & Co.Museum. The director there was Deborah Tranter but she may be > gone now. > Phone No. 076 391971 > Fax 076 385791. > They would probably have a website, > Hope this helps. > regards > Ernene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > Ernene, no I havent yet. I may well get into a library one day soon -all > I > > wanted was a look up in the index. I really thinnk our local library > would > > mean I have to get interlibrary loan, which here takes months, if you ever > > hear again! > > > > regards > > Denise > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Prasser, Smedley" <ernene@oasys.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > > > > Denise > > > Have you tried Cobb & Co. in Toowoomba Queensland? > > > Ernene > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:15 PM > > > Subject: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have the followng book and can get in touch with me > please? > > > > > > > > Men of Cobb and Co. E.J. Aisbett 1940 - Old Coach Drivers' Associaton > > > > > > > > regards Denise > > > > > > > >

Hi, The Cobb & Co. Museum is at Lindsay Street, Toowoomba, the telephone number is (07) 4639 1971 There is a Fax number of 4638 5791. All the best from Leona in Toowoomba, kingskid@ozxpress.com.au Researching into William Henry CUNDY, at Bendigo and his Father William CUNDY involved with Locomotives at Ballarat.....Victoria

Hi everyone, This message is being sent to everyone in my address book. Please update your records, I have a new email address. mugara@optushome.com.au for all email as of now please. my old email whitehse@bigpond.net.au is no longer!!! Cheers, Robynne

Denise, I have extracts from a book called "The Lights of Cobb & Co" by Ken Austin. The book that you want would more than likely be held in Toowoomba as it is a Cobb & Co.Museum. The director there was Deborah Tranter but she may be gone now. Phone No. 076 391971 Fax 076 385791. They would probably have a website, Hope this helps. regards Ernene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > Ernene, no I havent yet. I may well get into a library one day soon -all I > wanted was a look up in the index. I really thinnk our local library would > mean I have to get interlibrary loan, which here takes months, if you ever > hear again! > > regards > Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Prasser, Smedley" <ernene@oasys.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > Denise > > Have you tried Cobb & Co. in Toowoomba Queensland? > > Ernene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:15 PM > > Subject: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > > > > Does anyone have the followng book and can get in touch with me please? > > > > > > Men of Cobb and Co. E.J. Aisbett 1940 - Old Coach Drivers' Associaton > > > > > > regards Denise > > > >

Denise - on my way to the PRO - I'll ask about it. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise McMahon <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: [AVNE] Ned Kelly's Trial > Cecily and I - surviving partners of Crawford and Co. (grin) - are interested to find out if anyone has a trial transcript for Ned Kelly's trial in Melbourne. > > It is "reported" that Thomas Connolly and another gentleman travelled to Melbourne to speak on behalf of Ned Kelly. We are interested to hear of this if it is in the transcript. > > Thomas of course was a partner in C and Co. after his brother Michael died in 1880 and as you may have read, Cecily is his granddaughter. > > Any help at all appreciated. > > Denise > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/02

I just typed Tarrawingee Flour Mill into the Google Search engine. Several articles came up. Wonder if you may have already accessed these? Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug & Pat MacLaren-Smith <youknow@nor.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: [AVNE] Tarrawingee Flour Mill > I am looking for any information on the Tarrawingee Flour Mill which was > established in 1862 and burnt down in 1917. This Mill was owned at the time > of the fire and uninsured by John Smith. > The property is still in the family and now owned by John Jnr and Roger > Smith. > About two years after the Mill was destoryed by fire John took a stroke and > laid up for many years before he died . > Can any kind person please enlighten me further on this Mill. > Thank you > Doug > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/02

On my way to the State Library - will take a peek. Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug & Pat MacLaren-Smith <youknow@nor.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: [AVNE] Wangaratta Despatch Wed 2 Nov 1887 > Dear fellow Researchers. > I wonder if some kind person could look up the Wangaratta Despatch on Wed > 2nd Nov 1887, > for an entry or an adverisement by Alex. Clements which could refers to the > purchase or sale of The Mill at Tarrawingee for 1200 pounds on Saturday. > Or this entry may refer to the Estate of James Smith Snr, as I a hand > written note given to me by Roger Smith.Which reads James Smith Snr, when he > died left his Estate to his daughter Helen and when she died she did note > leave a will so the Estate was sold and distributed betwween the whole of > her relations. Wangaratta Desparch 2 Nov 1887. > I would appreciate any help that I can get on this on this one. > Thank you > Doug MacLaren-Smith > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/02

J. Curtain was in the Corowa area in 1898 - does anyone know of him? regards Denise

Does anyone know of a John Hassett who was in the Beechworth district in 1887-88 at least. I'd love to hear from you if so, Denise

Cecily and I - surviving partners of Crawford and Co. (grin) - are interested to find out if anyone has a trial transcript for Ned Kelly's trial in Melbourne. It is "reported" that Thomas Connolly and another gentleman travelled to Melbourne to speak on behalf of Ned Kelly. We are interested to hear of this if it is in the transcript. Thomas of course was a partner in C and Co. after his brother Michael died in 1880 and as you may have read, Cecily is his granddaughter. Any help at all appreciated. Denise

for a description on Tarrawningee http://www.arts.monash.edu.au/ncas/multimedia/gazetteer/list/tarrawingee.htm l for some family trees in Tarrawingee http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/patrick6.htm for Tarrawingee and Bowman http://home.vicnet.net.au/~pioneers/pppg5b.htm sorry Doug, not muchhelp on your request. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug & Pat MacLaren-Smith" <youknow@nor.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: [AVNE] Tarrawingee Flour Mill > I am looking for any information on the Tarrawingee Flour Mill which was > established in 1862 and burnt down in 1917. This Mill was owned at the time > of the fire and uninsured by John Smith. > The property is still in the family and now owned by John Jnr and Roger > Smith. > About two years after the Mill was destoryed by fire John took a stroke and > laid up for many years before he died . > Can any kind person please enlighten me further on this Mill. > Thank you > Doug >

Ernene, no I havent yet. I may well get into a library one day soon -all I wanted was a look up in the index. I really thinnk our local library would mean I have to get interlibrary loan, which here takes months, if you ever hear again! regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prasser, Smedley" <ernene@oasys.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > Denise > Have you tried Cobb & Co. in Toowoomba Queensland? > Ernene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:15 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > > > > Does anyone have the followng book and can get in touch with me please? > > > > Men of Cobb and Co. E.J. Aisbett 1940 - Old Coach Drivers' Associaton > > > > regards Denise > >

As a follow on to Denise's story; John Henry Conness was supposedly born aboard the ship ASIA that was on voyage from British America via Cork to Australia in 1835. He married Janet (Jessie) Gibson in 1867. John Conness was supposedly the discoverer of gold at the Indigo gold fields. John Conness often mined with his brother-in-law Hugh Gibson. In the 1880's John and Hugh opened the Grasshopper mine and employed fifty men. John Conness died in 1886 from pneumonia and was buried in the Albury cemetery. The upper Murray herald of 1/7/1886 stated 'General regret is expressed as Mr Conness was on of the oldest prospector's and miners of Victoria. He was known in every mining centre in the colony and NSW and always bore an unimpeachable character. His purse was always open to assist in any good work of charity.' Debbie

Does anyone have any information on the Johnson family around Albury, Magnus E.Johnson and his wife Bridget Annie Johnson (nee Roy, and nee Russell) The may have lived in Thurgoona St. Ernene Smedley

Denise Have you tried Cobb & Co. in Toowoomba Queensland? Ernene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise McMahon" <helendmc@powerup.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:15 PM Subject: [AVNE] Cobb & Co Book > Does anyone have the followng book and can get in touch with me please? > > Men of Cobb and Co. E.J. Aisbett 1940 - Old Coach Drivers' Associaton > > regards Denise

I am looking for any information on the Tarrawingee Flour Mill which was established in 1862 and burnt down in 1917. This Mill was owned at the time of the fire and uninsured by John Smith. The property is still in the family and now owned by John Jnr and Roger Smith. About two years after the Mill was destoryed by fire John took a stroke and laid up for many years before he died . Can any kind person please enlighten me further on this Mill. Thank you Doug

Dear fellow Researchers. I wonder if some kind person could look up the Wangaratta Despatch on Wed 2nd Nov 1887, for an entry or an adverisement by Alex. Clements which could refers to the purchase or sale of The Mill at Tarrawingee for 1200 pounds on Saturday. Or this entry may refer to the Estate of James Smith Snr, as I a hand written note given to me by Roger Smith.Which reads James Smith Snr, when he died left his Estate to his daughter Helen and when she died she did note leave a will so the Estate was sold and distributed betwween the whole of her relations. Wangaratta Desparch 2 Nov 1887. I would appreciate any help that I can get on this on this one. Thank you Doug MacLaren-Smith

Hi Carol, I'm looking at a map of the properties in the Bruarong area which is near me, but can find no mention of Wilberforce. Do you know WHEN he was there? I will check for you at Indigo Shire Yackandandah later in the day if you can give me an idea of the period. I'm at Osbornes Flat, near Yackandandah. Bruarong is roughly 10 kms from Yackandandah. Peter Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Dale <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: [AVNE] Location of a property > Dear all, > > In some handwritten notes from Geoff Craig, he lists my James Wilberforce > as being rated for 319 acres of land at what looks like Bruarong or > Burarong or Bruraray. His writing is difficult to read. Can anybody help? > > Carol Dale > Researching Wilberforces and associated families in Beechworth > >

?? Bruarong, 10km S of Yackandandah. Post Office opened as a Receiving Office 22/7/1909, upgraded to Post Office on 1/7/1927 was robbed 7/10/1936 and closed on 30/11/1965. (Source: The Post Offices and Hand -held Datestamps of Victoria, Volume One. G. Watson, J. Webster and D. Wood) Hope this helps, Mike Skurrie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dale" <coradsl@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:34 PM Subject: [AVNE] Location of a property > Dear all, > > In some handwritten notes from Geoff Craig, he lists my James Wilberforce > as being rated for 319 acres of land at what looks like Bruarong or > Burarong or Bruraray. His writing is difficult to read. Can anybody help? > > Carol Dale > Researching Wilberforces and associated families in Beechworth > >

Spud was his name. A colourful character was Spud. Real name Nuputata (new potato). He bore his nickname with good humour. Most hawkers of the north east had an unusual ending - public cremation. The last cermonial cremation in the n/e took place in the Wangaratta Common in early 1950's. The Government stepped in and stopped that - all further cremations had to take place at a recognised crematorium.