Noeleen The book is Wangaratta 1824-1963 by D.M. Whittaker published 1963 Kathy

Hello everyone I am looking for any info on "GLENMORE STATION" that any one might have, or know of. Any time frame. Any thoughts greatfully received Noeleen

I need Help!! When James Smith died 21 Oct 1915, he owned 240 acres of land made up of (4) allotments Lot (7) J Roberts & J Smith 56 acres Lot (4) T & P Cochran 56 acres Lot (3) T & P Cochran 64.0.25 acres Lot (2) Robert Wood 64.0.25 acres 28-12-1857 Total 240.0.50 acres Does anyone know when these allotments were purchased by James Smith ? or how I may find out ?? James willed the property to his daughter Nell Kerr, when she died 19 Apr 1931 she did not leave a will and the property had to be sold and funds distributed amongst the family. I understand that a Mr Walter (Watty) Hulme purchased the 240 acres and held it for a time, then sold the (4) allotments seperately. In 1939 Joseph Boyd purchased Lot (7) of 56 acres from Mr Watty Hulme and this property is still in the family. Can any kind person clarify or add to the history of this property ?? I have a copy of a diary of James' son David Smith which says that he built what appears to be a timber and hession house commencing on the 2nd June 1900, Duke Gardner was helping. What happened to this House ??? That's all for now, I do have more to share, thank you Doug

Noeleen A few bits that may be of interested. One result on my indexing the book. Kathy From Wangaratta 1824-1963 p.33(bio) George Vincent, born dorsetshire 1780, died Wangaratta 1850, father of Jacob, Jonathan and Isaac. 1841 migrated to NSW and settled at Unndarlo, 1846 moved to Glenmore Station (near Whitfield), 1847 arrived Wangaratta and settled. p.158(bio) "Bogong Jack", probably John Paynter or Payne, butcher of Omeo. The most successful of horse thieves, stealing horses in gippsland and bringing them over the Alps to NSW. A diversion would be staged in Wangaratta and Bogong Jack or one of his mates arrested by Sergeant Meyers but never detained long. A Police post was established at Glenmore to stop this and Bogong Jack eventually retired. p.161(bio) James Quinn...A number of arrests of John Quinn, James Quinn Jun., and John Lloyd, decided James Quinn Senior., in 1861 to sell out and move to Glenmore at the head of the King River. This was on the direct route from Mansfield to the Murray, and consequently frequented by cattle and horse thieves. However, there was still trouble with the police and many of the family were arrested and imprisoned. James Senior died on 22nd August, 1869, and the station was later sold. there were disagreements amongst the various members of the family and for some time a police post was set up near Glenmore. > Hello everyone > > I am looking for any info on "GLENMORE STATION" that any one might have, or know of. Any time frame. > > Any thoughts greatfully received > > Noeleen > > >

Roz, I am still not sure where our Jacob came from . Supposedly his parents were Henry and Mathilde Hansen. He was probably born around the same period as you Jacob. Keep me in mind if you come across another Jacob. thanks Kaye http://www.bananatv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Roz & Rod Voullaire <rvoull@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > > Hi One & All > > I have Jacob Christian JACOBSEN born c.1844 Schleswig Holstein, the son of > Christian and Nonche Sophia JACOBSEN (nee SONNIGSEN). Jacob married > Charlotte Von MALLESCH in 1874 in Victoria and they settled in the > Beechworth area. Their children were: > - Christian b.1876 Beechworth > - Charlotte Paulina b.1878 Beechworth, m.1908 William Joseph FIDLER > - Naomi Maria b.1881 Beechworth, d.1947 Melbourne, m. Harry PEACH > - Elizabeth Adolphina b.1883 Beechworth, d.1945 Richmond, m.1903 Daniel > Joseph BRYANT > - Paulina Louisa b.1885 Beechworth, d.1938 Canterbury, NSW, m.1913 Arthur > Edward FIDLER > - Amelia Matilda b.1887 Beechworth > - Antonia Frederika b.1889 Beechworth, d.1945 Kew, m. Fred EARLE > - Rose May b.1891 Beechworth, d.1909 Beechworth > - Carl Mallesch b.1895 Beechworth, m. Gladys > > Kind Regards > > Roz Voullaire > rvoull@hotkey.net.au > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rvoull/ > > >

Thanks for that Peter I actually found that Jacob was a mason and that he spent time in London before coming to Australia. I still havent found him coming in to aust. though. When did your JAcobsens arrive here????? Kaye http://www.bananatv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Lakeman <surreal@netspace.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > > >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:06:11 -0600 > >X-From_: sandave@ceinternet.com.au Tue May 14 19:06:10 2002 > >From: "Bales" <sandave@ceinternet.com.au> > >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Old-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:50:24 +1000 > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list > >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > >X-Envelope-To: AUS-VIC-NE-L > > > >Kaye and Di, > >I have an ancestor, Louis Meincke who came to S.A. He was from Schleswig > >Holstein but at times is meant to have been Danish and at other times > >German. I claim him as Danish which I think he was when he was born. That > >means my grandson has at least 10 separate nationalities in his background. > >World Book Encyclopedia says" Schleswig- Holstein is a state of West > >Germany. ( I have an Old World Book) It lies south of Denmark ..... > >Schlewig and Holstein have belonged to various times to Denmark and Germany. > >Prussia took control of them in 1866. After WW1 The Northern part of > >Schleswig united with Denmark. The rest of the state became a part of > >Germany" > >Maybe your Jacobsens will end up being related. > >David in Wyoming NSW > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Derek & Di Reid" <derekdi@gcom.net.au> > >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:35 AM > >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > > > > > > > Kaye > > > Mine were also from the area of Schleswig Holstein and their parents were > > > Hans Jacobsen and Mary Christina Pliss > > > Di > > > > I have a Jacob Jacobsen , supposedly from Denmark. Do you have any dates > > > or > > > > parents of these people?? > > > > Kaye Vernon > > > > Beacon Hill > > > > http://www.bananatv.com > >

SAve me typing all these items up I am going to be a bit easier on myself - If you see your name - please quote reference and I'll be happy to send info. John T. Hewitt Beechworth Page 1 1869 Morris Griffin Brown's Plains Rutherglen Page 4 1869 Henry Smith Benalla Page 4 1869 Ah LOng YOu Jamieson Page 4 1869 John Conway - Benalla Page 7 1869 Jane Walton Beechworth - Page 7 1869 Thomas D Kearney Voilettown (yes two t's) - Page 9 1869 Ah Yet & Co. Chiltern - P 11 1869 Robert McBean - Page 11 1869 John Barnwell THornton, Darlingford Upper Goulburn - Page 12 1869 Thomas McCanan Bowmans Forest Page 12 1869 F.R. Pohlman rutherglen Page 12 1869 William Main Hillsborough Stanley Page 12 1869 George Mason Beechworth Page 12 1869 Filippini Giamcomo Skeleton Lead Chiltern Page 11 1869 John Woodland Green HIllls Belvoir - Page 14 1869 Charles Moore - Wangaratta Page 17 1869

>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:06:11 -0600 >X-From_: sandave@ceinternet.com.au Tue May 14 19:06:10 2002 >From: "Bales" <sandave@ceinternet.com.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >Old-Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:50:24 +1000 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n >X-Envelope-To: AUS-VIC-NE-L > >Kaye and Di, >I have an ancestor, Louis Meincke who came to S.A. He was from Schleswig >Holstein but at times is meant to have been Danish and at other times >German. I claim him as Danish which I think he was when he was born. That >means my grandson has at least 10 separate nationalities in his background. >World Book Encyclopedia says" Schleswig- Holstein is a state of West >Germany. ( I have an Old World Book) It lies south of Denmark ..... >Schlewig and Holstein have belonged to various times to Denmark and Germany. >Prussia took control of them in 1866. After WW1 The Northern part of >Schleswig united with Denmark. The rest of the state became a part of >Germany" >Maybe your Jacobsens will end up being related. >David in Wyoming NSW > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Derek & Di Reid" <derekdi@gcom.net.au> >To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:35 AM >Subject: Re: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > > > > Kaye > > Mine were also from the area of Schleswig Holstein and their parents were > > Hans Jacobsen and Mary Christina Pliss > > Di > > > I have a Jacob Jacobsen , supposedly from Denmark. Do you have any dates > > or > > > parents of these people?? > > > Kaye Vernon > > > Beacon Hill > > > http://www.bananatv.com

Solen from the yard of RobertRansom, Albion HOtel Ford St Beechworth on the 23 Jan 68, a large white Marseilles counterpane with diamond figure round the edges and star in the centre; and a samaller one, common with square figures on the napping on one side and 4 or 5 inches of rent at one corner. == William Matthews Wellington is charged on warrant, with deserting his family at Elorado, Ovens district on the 21/1/68. aged 29/ 5''9" high stout 12 stone, fresh complexion dark brown hair whiskers shaved off, imperial on chin, small forehead high cheek bones - Cornish man, wore dark reversible coat, black felt hat and long Wellington boots. Probably gone to Adelong NSW =======

Back on deck and hope to be able to post more from the gazettes this week. DAvid Barbour at Wahgunyah lost on 14th Jan 1868 £3 and £2/0s joint stock bank cheque from Joseph Smith to William Smith. Suspicion against Duncan Connolly a Scot, baker aged 40 5'7" high, bald brown eyes sandy hair and complexion and low vulgar Scotch manners; wore red Crimean shirt, moleskin trousers and light felt hat. Think Connelly gone to Corowa. Now not too sure if the relates to the High country or not, but as I've seen the name David Wilson around the traps I'll type it up in case. Let me know, for interest sake, if you connect. Stolen from the stable of David Wilson Mount Blowhard Hotel, minersrest, on the night of 12th inst (Jan 68) an old hogskin saddle with a piece of leather about the size of a half crown sewn into one knee pad but ripped again, cut all round the cantle as if from wear, an old double reined bridle with plain buckles and white head band, bearing rein broken near buckle, curb chain attached, adn a martingle not much worn. Et c ETc E tc.

Hi One & All I have Jacob Christian JACOBSEN born c.1844 Schleswig Holstein, the son of Christian and Nonche Sophia JACOBSEN (nee SONNIGSEN). Jacob married Charlotte Von MALLESCH in 1874 in Victoria and they settled in the Beechworth area. Their children were: - Christian b.1876 Beechworth - Charlotte Paulina b.1878 Beechworth, m.1908 William Joseph FIDLER - Naomi Maria b.1881 Beechworth, d.1947 Melbourne, m. Harry PEACH - Elizabeth Adolphina b.1883 Beechworth, d.1945 Richmond, m.1903 Daniel Joseph BRYANT - Paulina Louisa b.1885 Beechworth, d.1938 Canterbury, NSW, m.1913 Arthur Edward FIDLER - Amelia Matilda b.1887 Beechworth - Antonia Frederika b.1889 Beechworth, d.1945 Kew, m. Fred EARLE - Rose May b.1891 Beechworth, d.1909 Beechworth - Carl Mallesch b.1895 Beechworth, m. Gladys Kind Regards Roz Voullaire rvoull@hotkey.net.au http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rvoull/

Does anyone know if there are any living relatives of Banjo Patterson . Kaye Vernon http://www.bananatv.com

Kaye Mine were also from the area of Schleswig Holstein and their parents were Hans Jacobsen and Mary Christina Pliss Di > I have a Jacob Jacobsen , supposedly from Denmark. Do you have any dates or > parents of these people?? > Kaye Vernon > Beacon Hill > http://www.bananatv.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Derek & Di Reid <derekdi@gcom.net.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:02 AM > Subject: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > > > > G'day all > > I'm searching for my family of Asmaus Frederick Jacobson's and his wife > > Maren Christina Neilson who were Vignerons in the Rutherglen area. Asmaus > > had 2 brothers, Charles and Andrew that were also in the area. any help > > appreciated > > Di > > >

I have a Jacob Jacobsen , supposedly from Denmark. Do you have any dates or parents of these people?? Kaye Vernon Beacon Hill http://www.bananatv.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek & Di Reid <derekdi@gcom.net.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: [AVNE] Jacobso(e)n > G'day all > I'm searching for my family of Asmaus Frederick Jacobson's and his wife > Maren Christina Neilson who were Vignerons in the Rutherglen area. Asmaus > had 2 brothers, Charles and Andrew that were also in the area. any help > appreciated > Di >

G'day all I'm searching for my family of Asmaus Frederick Jacobson's and his wife Maren Christina Neilson who were Vignerons in the Rutherglen area. Asmaus had 2 brothers, Charles and Andrew that were also in the area. any help appreciated Di

Thanks Beverley. Now I've got it. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: bragge <bragge@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > Hi Peter, > I think you are thinking of the Taylors Gap crossing, there was a bridge > over the line, and it is on top of the Gap, close to the Beechworth turn > off. > The Blue Bell crossing was much closer to Myrtleford. The old road ran > under the hill, the Blue Bell crossing was where the road met the hill on > the Wang. side. there was another crossing where the road left the hill on > the Myrtleford side (forget the name of that crossing). The Blue Bell would > only be about 3 or 4 Km's out of Myrtleford. > Beverley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Ross" <rossof@ozemail.com.au> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:26 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > Beverley, > > > > I think that I remember that wretched railway crossing! Going from > > Myrtleford towards Wang, wasn't it on a left hand bend at the top of a > hill, > > and in a narrow gulley as well? Scary. > > > > Was it not far from the turn-off to Beechworth via Buckland Gap road? > > > > Peter Ross > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bragge <bragge@bigpond.com> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > > > > I have not heard of the Blue Bell Hotel, but the Blue Bell railway > > crossing > > > was the second railway crossing after you left Myrtleford going towards > > > Wangaratta. It was quite a dangerous crossing. Some years ago the road > > was > > > re-routed and bypassed this crossing. It's a couple of k's out of > > > Myrtleford. - Perhaps is was called the Blue Bell crossing because of > the > > > hotel. > > > If you were to drop a line to the Historical Society in Myrtleford they > > may > > > be able to help you. > > > Regards. Beverley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Susan Baines" <susanbaines@lineone.net> > > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:37 PM > > > Subject: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > > > > > > > The Blue Bell Hotel in Myrtleford does not seem to be menioned in Kay > > > > Robertson's book about Myrtleford. In 1869 Mary McManus and Andrew > > > McMaster > > > > got married there - according to a family tree that I have been given. > > > Has > > > > anyone else heard of this hotel? > > > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yes Kaye Well possibly yes. 2 of his grandchildren Rosamund Campbell and Philippa Harvie wrote the forward to 'The Banjo's best-loved poems' Sydney 1985. Published by Harbour Books. Ken

Hi Peter, I think you are thinking of the Taylors Gap crossing, there was a bridge over the line, and it is on top of the Gap, close to the Beechworth turn off. The Blue Bell crossing was much closer to Myrtleford. The old road ran under the hill, the Blue Bell crossing was where the road met the hill on the Wang. side. there was another crossing where the road left the hill on the Myrtleford side (forget the name of that crossing). The Blue Bell would only be about 3 or 4 Km's out of Myrtleford. Beverley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ross" <rossof@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > Beverley, > > I think that I remember that wretched railway crossing! Going from > Myrtleford towards Wang, wasn't it on a left hand bend at the top of a hill, > and in a narrow gulley as well? Scary. > > Was it not far from the turn-off to Beechworth via Buckland Gap road? > > Peter Ross > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bragge <bragge@bigpond.com> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > I have not heard of the Blue Bell Hotel, but the Blue Bell railway > crossing > > was the second railway crossing after you left Myrtleford going towards > > Wangaratta. It was quite a dangerous crossing. Some years ago the road > was > > re-routed and bypassed this crossing. It's a couple of k's out of > > Myrtleford. - Perhaps is was called the Blue Bell crossing because of the > > hotel. > > If you were to drop a line to the Historical Society in Myrtleford they > may > > be able to help you. > > Regards. Beverley > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Baines" <susanbaines@lineone.net> > > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:37 PM > > Subject: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > > > > The Blue Bell Hotel in Myrtleford does not seem to be menioned in Kay > > > Robertson's book about Myrtleford. In 1869 Mary McManus and Andrew > > McMaster > > > got married there - according to a family tree that I have been given. > > Has > > > anyone else heard of this hotel? > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > > > > >

Beverley, I think that I remember that wretched railway crossing! Going from Myrtleford towards Wang, wasn't it on a left hand bend at the top of a hill, and in a narrow gulley as well? Scary. Was it not far from the turn-off to Beechworth via Buckland Gap road? Peter Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: bragge <bragge@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > I have not heard of the Blue Bell Hotel, but the Blue Bell railway crossing > was the second railway crossing after you left Myrtleford going towards > Wangaratta. It was quite a dangerous crossing. Some years ago the road was > re-routed and bypassed this crossing. It's a couple of k's out of > Myrtleford. - Perhaps is was called the Blue Bell crossing because of the > hotel. > If you were to drop a line to the Historical Society in Myrtleford they may > be able to help you. > Regards. Beverley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Baines" <susanbaines@lineone.net> > To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:37 PM > Subject: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > > > > The Blue Bell Hotel in Myrtleford does not seem to be menioned in Kay > > Robertson's book about Myrtleford. In 1869 Mary McManus and Andrew > McMaster > > got married there - according to a family tree that I have been given. > Has > > anyone else heard of this hotel? > > > > Many thanks > > > > Susan > > > > >

I have not heard of the Blue Bell Hotel, but the Blue Bell railway crossing was the second railway crossing after you left Myrtleford going towards Wangaratta. It was quite a dangerous crossing. Some years ago the road was re-routed and bypassed this crossing. It's a couple of k's out of Myrtleford. - Perhaps is was called the Blue Bell crossing because of the hotel. If you were to drop a line to the Historical Society in Myrtleford they may be able to help you. Regards. Beverley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Baines" <susanbaines@lineone.net> To: <AUS-VIC-NE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 11:37 PM Subject: [AVNE] Blue Bell Hotel Myrtleford > The Blue Bell Hotel in Myrtleford does not seem to be menioned in Kay > Robertson's book about Myrtleford. In 1869 Mary McManus and Andrew McMaster > got married there - according to a family tree that I have been given. Has > anyone else heard of this hotel? > > Many thanks > > Susan > >