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    1. ORR birth look-ups please
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi everyone, Could I have a look-up for births for this couple, please? James Galt ORR m Mary Jessie WEEKES in 1874. I don't know where. She was born in Melbourne, and he was born in Scotland. He died in 1889 in Fitzroy, Melbourne. James was a prominent Beechworth auctioneer, the births could have been in that area. Any help will be much appreciated. Best wishes, Jill

    02/04/2005 07:51:35
    1. Re: [AVNE] william ORR
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi Denise, Thanks once again, just quickly, it seems we've found another one, Thomas H ORR,orchardist, could be Thomas Hunter ORR, probably. b.1843, d. 1907, Malvern, Vic. Thanks very much for giving so much of your time to me and others on the list. Best wishes, Jill.

    02/04/2005 02:37:52
    1. Re: [AVNE] william ORR
    2. Denise
    3. Jill, at the moment I am scanning thru the Ovens and Murray Advertiser for 1881 so keep looking - I'll let you know if I see the name Denise

    02/04/2005 02:20:59
    1. Re: [AVNE] william ORR
    2. Denise
    3. A few more Jill - BAILLIERE"S Victorian Directory 1869 Orr J. MLA Chiltern Orr James G. clerk Beechworth no William mentioned in n/east 1870 Orr James G. Clerk Beechworth Orr J MLA Chiltern again no Wm 1871-72 J Orr MLA Chiltern 1875 Orr Jackson farmer Wangaratta Orr John general agent Echuca again no Wm 1880-81 Orr Jackson farmer Toongabbie Orr Jas G. auctioneer (looks like he has gone into business) Orr John, agent, Everton Station Orr John Ovens & Murray, Forwarding Co. carriers Melbourne Orr John, commission agent office, Railway station Wahgunyah - (maybe the same guy as Everton Station - spreading out) Orr William auctioneer & commission agent Wangaratta. In the Victorian Electoral Roll for Federal Referendum 1899 there are a couple of pages of Orrs - so from the northeast - Orr Andrew Groom, Wangaratta Orr Thomas H, Wangaratta Orchardist Orr Wm Shepparton Carpenter (? children of John or Wm?) Denise Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] william ORR > Hi Denise, > That's wonderful, Kaye has sent me some more details, and this > certainly is my William, he had a brother James Galt ORR. > If you come across the name ORR in your records anywhere, I'd > be > appreciative of any news you can give me please. > I'd say the Mrs. W. ORR snr, who gave the carved oak pulpit > might have been Wm's mother, ( the MLA) she left Qld to live in Vic after > 1881, and died in Wangaratta in 1908. > J. ORR, MP could have been James Galt ORR. > > Thanks for your great help with this family, I's so happy to be this far > with them, and they are g/grand uncles/aunts, direct lines too, not some > twig. > Best wishes, > Jill > >

    02/04/2005 02:17:04
    1. Re: [AVNE] William ORR
    2. Kaye Patterson
    3. Hi Jill, I had this obit and info in my files. It may help. I'm at work and can't look up any of my books though. ORR James Galt b. 1839 Aryshire, SCT Spouse: WEEKES Mary Jessie Father: ORR William Mother: HUNTER Jane Wangaratta Chronicle Wednesday 20/3/1889 "DEATH OF MR ORR. - Mr James ORR, a brother of Mr Wm ORR, now residing at Fitzroy, and once a prominent Beechworth auctioneer, died suddenly from heart disease on Sunday. He was in partnership with Mr Wm ORR (now of Broken Hill) in Melbourne, and was always an active, useful public man." Kaye At 11:35 PM 3/02/2005 +1000, Jill Glover wrote: >Hi Everyone, > I'm trying to tie my William ORR in with the William ORR > who was Mayor of Wangaratta and an auctioneer there also, cir 1880. >My William was b. 1843 in Scotland. He had a twin brother, Thomas Hunter >ORR. And 7 other siblings. >William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ?where. >He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic. > If anyone can help with a look-up for any children of > this couple, I'd be very grateful. I am also thinking William might be > the father of Charles F Orr, who was a racing identity. >Many thanks for your help, >Jill, Brisbane. Mobile: 0409 332 373 [email protected] http://www.deakin.edu.au/~kayep/geneal Researching: PATTERSON [Co Tyrone to New Brunswick Canada to Greta/Myrrhee Vic]: FORGE [Hundon Suffolk to Vic, mainly Greta/Myrrhee]: POULTER [Cowlinge Suffolk to Greensborough and Kilmore area Vic]: MEYER [Germany to Wangaratta Vic]: READ [Canterbury Kent to Geelong to Warrnambool area]: FREITAG [Germany to Somerton Vic to Winton Vic]: HILL [Wolverhampton Staff. to Campbellfield Vic to Taminick Vic]: GREEN [Donegal Ireland to Winton Vic]: JOHNSTONE [Fifeshire Scotland to Terang area Vic]: HYNES [Co Clare Ireland to Kapunda SA to Deniliquin NSW]: HUSSEY [Hampshire England to Lilydale area Vic and Deniliquin NSW]: SANTILLA [Middlesex England to Richmond Vic to Deniliquin NSW].

    02/04/2005 02:00:36
    1. Re: [AVNE] William ORR
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi Kaye, That's great news for me, this is my family, William's brother was James Galt ORR. So it would appear my William, MLA and former Mayor of Wangaratta, went to Broken Hill? Then he must have come back to Melbourne, he died in 1919 at Armadale. The two stories in folk lore are that the ORR's were racing people in Vic., and also had a hand in setting up Mt. Isa Mines, in Qld. I'm getting closer to the racing, hunting a connection with Charles F.ORR. and now perhaps the mining connections, William might have got involved in that. Certainly food for thought. Too many William ORR's though!!! Many thanks for your help and interest, Jill

    02/04/2005 01:47:50
    1. Re: [AVNE] william ORR
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi Denise, That's wonderful, Kaye has sent me some more details, and this certainly is my William, he had a brother James Galt ORR. If you come across the name ORR in your records anywhere, I'd be appreciative of any news you can give me please. I'd say the Mrs. W. ORR snr, who gave the carved oak pulpit might have been Wm's mother, ( the MLA) she left Qld to live in Vic after 1881, and died in Wangaratta in 1908. J. ORR, MP could have been James Galt ORR. Thanks for your great help with this family, I's so happy to be this far with them, and they are g/grand uncles/aunts, direct lines too, not some twig. Best wishes, Jill

    02/04/2005 01:38:29
    1. Re: [AVNE] william ORR
    2. Denise
    3. Wangaratta by D M Whittaker shows on P180 that Wm Orr MP was Mayor 1878-79 & Member of the legislative Council representing Wangaratta in the North Eastern Province 1882- ??? Mrs Wm Orr Snr P112, donated a carved oak pulpit-chair to Presbyterian Church. Sarah and James Orr P117 ,pioneer students at first school at Ovens Cross - slab structure near Clark's Hope Inn. William - P166 a signatory at public meeting held at St. George's Hall Wangaratta 26.10.1881 J. Orr MP Member of Legislative Assembly of Vic representing Wangaratta. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Glover" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: [AVNE] william ORR > Hi Everyone, > I'm trying to tie my William ORR in with the William ORR > who was Mayor of Wangaratta and an auctioneer there also, cir 1880. > My William was b. 1843 in Scotland. He had a twin brother, Thomas Hunter > ORR. And 7 other siblings. > William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ?where. > He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic. > If anyone can help with a look-up for any children of this > couple, I'd be very grateful. I am also thinking William might be the > father of Charles F Orr, who was a racing identity. > Many thanks for your help, > Jill, Brisbane. >

    02/04/2005 12:54:03
    1. Re: [AVNE] eaglehawk
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi Robyn, Thanks for letting me know about the above town. Cheers, Jill.

    02/03/2005 04:49:01
    1. william ORR
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi Everyone, I'm trying to tie my William ORR in with the William ORR who was Mayor of Wangaratta and an auctioneer there also, cir 1880. My William was b. 1843 in Scotland. He had a twin brother, Thomas Hunter ORR. And 7 other siblings. William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ?where. He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic. If anyone can help with a look-up for any children of this couple, I'd be very grateful. I am also thinking William might be the father of Charles F Orr, who was a racing identity. Many thanks for your help, Jill, Brisbane.

    02/03/2005 04:35:04
    1. eaglehawk
    2. Jill Glover
    3. Hi all, Is the above place in the area for this list please? Many thanks, Jill

    02/03/2005 04:23:33
    1. RE: [AVNE] eaglehawk
    2. Robyn & Michael Mischin
    3. Hi Jill I think you need the Vic Goldfields List (it's a great List). You subscribe by inserting the word "subscribe" in the body of the test as well as the subject line. [email protected] Kind regards Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] eaglehawk Hi all, Is the above place in the area for this list please? Many thanks, Jill

    02/03/2005 02:32:50
    1. Re: [AVNE] St. Pauls Church, Corop
    2. Margery Whitham
    3. Many thanks, Peter, for suggesting the Northwest area - I will give it a go and see if anything turns up! Margery (Windsor) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lakeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] St. Pauls Church, Corop > Hello Margery, > > Corop is perhaps better covered by the AUS-VIC-NORTHWEST mailing list, so > if you don't receive an answer in a day or so from this list, please try > the above list. > > Cheers > > Peter > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > At 12:52 PM 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote: > >Hoping I am in the right area! I was baptized in 1936 at St. Pauls, > >Corop. Despite numerous attempts at locating this church would anybody > >possibly have a photograph or anything helpful to give me an idea of what > >the church looked like in 1936 or even the surrounding area? > > > >I was born in Elmore and lived in Colbinabbin - bit of a puzzle as to why > >I was baptized in Corop!!! > > > > > >My thanks, > > > >Margery >

    02/03/2005 03:43:26
    1. Re: [AVNE] St. Pauls Church, Corop
    2. Peter Lakeman
    3. Hello Margery, Corop is perhaps better covered by the AUS-VIC-NORTHWEST mailing list, so if you don't receive an answer in a day or so from this list, please try the above list. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 12:52 PM 02/02/2005 +0000, you wrote: >Hoping I am in the right area! I was baptized in 1936 at St. Pauls, >Corop. Despite numerous attempts at locating this church would anybody >possibly have a photograph or anything helpful to give me an idea of what >the church looked like in 1936 or even the surrounding area? > >I was born in Elmore and lived in Colbinabbin - bit of a puzzle as to why >I was baptized in Corop!!! > > >My thanks, > >Margery

    02/03/2005 12:38:18
    1. Fw: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile
    2. Peter Lakeman
    3. From: Dr Brian E Lloyd <[email protected]> ------------------------------------ Dear <[email protected]>, Linda has given you the right information. I still have copies of Tales of the Ten Mile: Ballybeg to the Bush, for $20. I includes a complete history of the Allens of ten Mile. Tom Allen was buried at Jamieson, is the large family tomb. I have a picture of his funeral procession. Brian Lloyd >From: "Damien" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: Fw: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:40:37 +1100 > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" ><[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:36 PM >Subject: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile > >>Hi Everyone, >> >>This post was on AUS-VIC-CENTRAL, but I have come across here to reply, >>as I think this is the more correct list. >> >>Denise wrote: >> >>>I have a death notice which I feel may belong to the Thomas Allen I am >>>after. >>> >>> 12 Nov 1904 >>> Mrs. Allen and family (Ten Mile) desire to thank their many >>> friends for their kind expressions of sympathy, telegrams and letters, >>> condoling with them in their recent sad bereavement ; also to Father >>> Egan and Dr. Healy for their extreme kindness and attention. >>> >>>Does anyone have access to cemetery records for Mansfield, Ten Mile, or >>>Jamieson - I am assuming this chap would have been buried in one of >>>these cemeteries - but am open to suggestions if any others come to mind. >>> >>>I need to confirm place of birth to be sure I am chasing the right man. >> >>The reference I am using is Voice of the Mountains, Journal of the >>Mountain Cattlemen's Assoc of Victoria, no 18, 1995. It is the special >>Wonnangatta issue. >> >>In it, Dr Brian Lloyd provided a two-page article "Allen Brothers, the >>Alexander Syndicate and Wonnangatta Station". He discusses the >>involvement of Thomas Allen's sons with a number of properties and areas >>and taking over Wonnangatta station after murders there in 1918. The >>article basically serves as a short family history of that generation. >> >>The article is an edited version of his book "Tales of the Ten Mile: >>Ballybeg to the Bush", due for publication in 1995. In it he writes of >>the life and times of his great-grandmother, Mrs Mary Allen of Ten Mile. >> >>He also published "Off to Wonnangatta: Victorian Mountain Cattle Country >>in 1922" by Marge Allen. >> >>In 1995 his publications were available from Histec Publications, 13 >>Connor St, Brighton East 3187. (Or you may be able to obtain "Tales of >>the Ten Mile" through inter-library loan - that is if there is not >>someone on the list who has a copy who could consult it for you - I do >>not have a copy. Or someone may be able to advise you where you could >>purchase a copy. Maybe Jamieson Historical Society???? >> >>Regards >> >>Linda

    02/02/2005 01:29:28
    1. St. Pauls Church, Corop
    2. Margery Whitham
    3. Hoping I am in the right area! I was baptized in 1936 at St. Pauls, Corop. Despite numerous attempts at locating this church would anybody possibly have a photograph or anything helpful to give me an idea of what the church looked like in 1936 or even the surrounding area? I was born in Elmore and lived in Colbinabbin - bit of a puzzle as to why I was baptized in Corop!!! My thanks, Margery

    02/02/2005 05:52:06
    1. RE: [AVNE] Chiltern Federal Standard
    2. Anne Hanson
    3. Carolyn, The Robert O'Hara Burke Museum in Beechworth have copies of the Chiltern Federal Standard on microfilm. Contact details are: Loch Street Beechworth 3747 Tel: (03)5728-8067 e-mail: [email protected] Cheers Anne Hanson Beechworth -----Original Message----- From: Tweedie Family [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2005 8:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] Chiltern Federal Standard Hello Listers, I have been given about a dozen references to relatives mentioned in the Federal Standard newspaper, but unfortunately do not have access. Is there a way of doing so via the net?If not would some kind soul be able to look them up for me? Sincerely Carolyn Sunny Jervis Bay

    01/28/2005 12:45:34
    1. Chiltern Federal Standard
    2. Tweedie Family
    3. Hello Listers, I have been given about a dozen references to relatives mentioned in the Federal Standard newspaper, but unfortunately do not have access. Is there a way of doing so via the net?If not would some kind soul be able to look them up for me? Sincerely Carolyn Sunny Jervis Bay

    01/27/2005 01:34:55
    1. Allen Family of Ten Mile
    2. Linda Barraclough
    3. Hi Everyone, This post was on AUS-VIC-CENTRAL, but I have come across here to reply, as I think this is the more correct list. Denise wrote: >I have a death notice which I feel may belong to the Thomas Allen I am after. > > 12 Nov 1904 > Mrs. Allen and family (Ten Mile) desire to thank their many > friends for their kind expressions of sympathy, telegrams and letters, > condoling with them in their recent sad bereavement ; also to Father Egan > and Dr. Healy for their extreme kindness and attention. > >Does anyone have access to cemetery records for Mansfield, Ten Mile, or >Jamieson - I am assuming this chap would have been buried in one of these >cemeteries - but am open to suggestions if any others come to mind. > >I need to confirm place of birth to be sure I am chasing the right man. The reference I am using is Voice of the Mountains, Journal of the Mountain Cattlemen's Assoc of Victoria, no 18, 1995. It is the special Wonnangatta issue. In it, Dr Brian Lloyd provided a two-page article "Allen Brothers, the Alexander Syndicate and Wonnangatta Station". He discusses the involvement of Thomas Allen's sons with a number of properties and areas and taking over Wonnangatta station after murders there in 1918. The article basically serves as a short family history of that generation. The article is an edited version of his book "Tales of the Ten Mile: Ballybeg to the Bush", due for publication in 1995. In it he writes of the life and times of his great-grandmother, Mrs Mary Allen of Ten Mile. He also published "Off to Wonnangatta: Victorian Mountain Cattle Country in 1922" by Marge Allen. In 1995 his publications were available from Histec Publications, 13 Connor St, Brighton East 3187. (Or you may be able to obtain "Tales of the Ten Mile" through inter-library loan - that is if there is not someone on the list who has a copy who could consult it for you - I do not have a copy. Or someone may be able to advise you where you could purchase a copy. Maybe Jamieson Historical Society???? Regards Linda

    01/27/2005 05:36:11
    1. Re: [AVNE] Greta Cemetery
    2. Alan French
    3. Hello Noeleen, Was your Jack Dinning the same as he who was Sgt Jack Dinning of Moyhu Troop ,I think it was No 3, B Squadron, 8th ( Indi) Light Horse Regiment, a true " Gentleman of the Light Horse"? Did you know Ruth Bullock the lovely lady who bred top Jersey cattle at Greta ? Regards Alan French No 1 ( Wangaratta Troop) B Squadron 8th (Indi ) Light Horse Regiment -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.5 - Release Date: 1/26/05

    01/27/2005 03:45:35