Denise On Feb 4 you posted a reply to Jill and gave entries from Baillier's Directory and the voters roll for the referendum. I wondered do you have these on CD or Library access to them ? Ore are they on the Internet? I am not after a lookup just interested where they are should I ever need to search them. Kel from Benalla. Interests mainly Benalla and Winton Cemeteries and Lone Graves or really small cemeteries.

Alexandra cemetery burials and monumental inscriptions from 1870-1985 are held by the Genealogical Society of Victoria. Reference "Cemeteries in Australia", A register of Transcripts Martin C H Killion and Heather E Gamsey Australian Federation of Family History Organizations 1994 (There may be more recent updates) Best Wishes Margaret Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Alexandra Cemetery >I would be interested in an answer also. > Could the answer be via the list please? > Thanks Denise > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Village People" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:30 AM > Subject: [AVNE] Alexandra Cemetery > > >> Hi List, >> Can anyone tell me if the transcripts of the >> Alexandra Cemetery have been done, if so if anyone on >> the list has them. >> >> Regards >> Doug >> >> Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. >> http://au.movies.yahoo.com >> > >

Hi List, Can anyone tell me if the transcripts of the Alexandra Cemetery have been done, if so if anyone on the list has them. Regards Doug Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com

I would be interested in an answer also. Could the answer be via the list please? Thanks Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Village People" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: [AVNE] Alexandra Cemetery > Hi List, > Can anyone tell me if the transcripts of the > Alexandra Cemetery have been done, if so if anyone on > the list has them. > > Regards > Doug > > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. > http://au.movies.yahoo.com >

Hello Kaye, Well, I must say, this is akin to winning lotto, and thank you so much for looking it up for me, and sending it on. What a wonderful lot of info. about these fellows. What a great and varied life William had, what a shame there were no children? But lots of nieces and nephews, I guess. I've almost got all the main details of the ORR family and their spouses etc., and it's good to be getting into the area of what their lives were like, and what they did for a living etc. I wonder if you could look up another two men for me please? James Galt ORR, he was a clerk, and then Auctioneer. Thomas H. ORR, Orchardist, Wangaratta. Only if you have time, of course. Many thanks and best wishes, Jill.

Dear List A family of Chinese origin with the surname SEEKAY lived in the Moama district in the 1890's and earlier. I have preliminary information from the BDM indexes on line. Any other information on this family would be gratefully received. Regards Liz Darcey

Hi Jill, this is your William, and his sister Jeanie - M Rosalyn Shennan. (1990). Pioneers of the Ovens & Townsmen of Beechworth. "William ORR, Miner and MLC, Beechworth and Wangaratta. Born near Irvine, Ayrshire, Scotland on 13th February, 1843, the son of William ORR, farmer and his wife Jane (nee HUNTER). ORR arrived in Victoria in 1852 with his parents and brothers Thomas and James. He spent a number of years in the Castlemaine and Daylesford areas before settling in Beechworth with his family. Whilst there William joined the firm of J H GRAY and Company, later opening a business in association with the company in Wangaratta where he resided at 'Glenarvon'. ORR became involved in municipal affairs and was a member of the Wangaratta Borough Council from 1875 to 1882 and Mayor from 1877 to 1888. In 1887 he entered into partnership with his brother James as land salesmen in Melbourne. He later joined his father in Queensland where he had mining and pastoral interests. He also spent several years in Broken Hill, Mount Isa and Tasmania where he was a partner in the Mount Lyell copper mine. ORR was a member of the Legislative Council for the Northeast Province from November 1901 to May 1904. He was married in 1878 to Mary FRASER, the daughter of William FRASER of Tallygaroopna, near Shepparton. They had no family. William ORR died at Toorak, Melbourne on 6th February 1929 and is buried in the Boroondara Cemetery. (Argus, 8/2/1929; OMA, 18/6/1887; Wangaratta Chronicle, 9/2/1929; Thomason & Serle, op.cit.)" "William TELFORD, Auctioneer, Beechworth. Born in Stirling, Scotland about 1825, the son of John TELFORD and Jane (nee WRIGHT). TELFORD arrived in Melbourne in 1852 where he remained for two years, working as a salesman. In 1855 he moved to Beechworth where he ran a general store and acted as agent for the firm of Amshel and Company. The following year he moved to Chiltern where he kept a wine and spirit store for two years, returning to Beechworth where he joined the firm of J H GRAY, auctioneers. After GRAY's death in June 1861, he purchased a share in the company and was joined by Mr J G ORR in the 1870s. On 12th July 1864, William TELFORD married GRAY's widow Jeanie Hunter Galt, the daughter of William ORR and Jane (nee HUNTER). Jeanie was born in Ayrshire, Scotland in 1834. ..... He died on 7th October 1895 at the age of 69, leaving a widow, two stepsons and a step-daughter." (Alexander Sutherland, op. cit; 1857 Ovens Directory; OMA, 14/7/1864; Ovens Register, 9/10/1895)" Kaye At 09:12 PM 10/02/2005 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, here I go again, > I'm trying to find out if my William ORR was the William ORR who >was Mayor of Wangaratta , 1878-1879, and MLA. from 1881-?? >My William was b. 1843 in Scotland, parents William ORRand Jane HUNTER. >James G. ORR was a brother. >William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ? where.He was an >auctioneer at Wangaratta around 1880, and then went to Broken Hill. >He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic. >There appears to be another William ORR on the Vic, Digger Index, and it >could be he who was the mayor. Is it possible for someone to look up an old >newspaper or book and see the name of the wife of the ORR who was a >politician, or his age please? >I think it would be unlikely that my William was an Auctioneer and MLA at >the same time. Does anyone have an thoughts on that? > > >This is another William ORR who might be the MLA.?? > Surname: ORR >Given Names: Mary Ann >Event: D >Spouse Surname/Father: William >Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret FRASER >Age: 3W >Sex: >Birth Place: WANG >Death Place: >Year: 1866 >Reg Number: 6847< > . >Many thanks for your help, I do hope I'm making some sense> >Jill, Brisbane. Kaye Patterson [email protected] http://www.deakin.edu.au/~kayep/geneal Researching: PATTERSON [Co Tyrone to New Brunswick Canada to Greta/Myrrhee Vic]: FORGE [Hundon Suffolk to Vic, mainly Greta/Myrrhee]: POULTER [Cowlinge Suffolk to Greensborough and Kilmore area Vic]: MEYER [Germany to Wangaratta Vic]: READ [Canterbury Kent to Geelong to Warrnambool area]: FREITAG [Germany to Somerton Vic to Winton Vic]: HILL [Wolverhampton Staff. to Campbellfield Vic to Taminick Vic]: GREEN [Donegal Ireland to Winton Vic]: JOHNSTONE [Fifeshire Scotland to Terang area Vic]: HYNES [Co Clare Ireland to Kapunda SA to Deniliquin NSW]: HUSSEY [Hampshire England to Lilydale area Vic and Deniliquin NSW]: SANTILLA [Middlesex England to Richmond Vic to Deniliquin NSW].

Hi Everyone, here I go again, I'm trying to find out if my William ORR was the William ORR who was Mayor of Wangaratta , 1878-1879, and MLA. from 1881-?? My William was b. 1843 in Scotland, parents William ORRand Jane HUNTER. James G. ORR was a brother. William married Mary Fraser, from Ellengowan, in 1878. ? where.He was an auctioneer at Wangaratta around 1880, and then went to Broken Hill. He died in 1929 at Armadale, Vic. There appears to be another William ORR on the Vic, Digger Index, and it could be he who was the mayor. Is it possible for someone to look up an old newspaper or book and see the name of the wife of the ORR who was a politician, or his age please? I think it would be unlikely that my William was an Auctioneer and MLA at the same time. Does anyone have an thoughts on that? >This is another William ORR who might be the MLA.?? Surname: ORR Given Names: Mary Ann Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: William Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Margaret FRASER Age: 3W Sex: Birth Place: WANG Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 6847< . Many thanks for your help, I do hope I'm making some sense> Jill, Brisbane.

Hi Mary, Jackie has already told me about John ORR, thanks for letting me know you had the book. Cheers, Jill

Hi Jackie, Thanks for that info, now I can eliminate him, and any family of his I find. Could be cousins of our ORR family, but I don't think I want to go that far just now.Too many twigs to clog the 'drain's'. Best wishes, Jill

I have the book pp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] John ORR MLA. > Jill, there's a book written by Ashley on Chiltern -someone on the list may > have it or you may be able to source it thru interlibrary loan - I don't > recall the full title sorry > Denise >

Jill, According to Rutherglen by Brian Lloyd - John Orr, born 1831 Kilbirnie, Scotland. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 9:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] John ORR MLA. Hello everyone, Would anyone confirm the first name of this MLA, and his age, if possible, please? I have a John ORR, b. 1845, Ayrshire. Brother to William and James, who were in that area. 1869/70/71/72--- Orr J. MLA Chiltern. I believe it is John. He is also listed as MLA for Moira, and Wangaratta,in different records I've received. Many thanks, Jill

That's okay Denise, thanks. Jill

Jill, there's a book written by Ashley on Chiltern -someone on the list may have it or you may be able to source it thru interlibrary loan - I don't recall the full title sorry Denise

Hello everyone, Would anyone confirm the first name of this MLA, and his age, if possible, please? I have a John ORR, b. 1845, Ayrshire. Brother to William and James, who were in that area. 1869/70/71/72--- Orr J. MLA Chiltern. I believe it is John. He is also listed as MLA for Moira, and Wangaratta,in different records I've received. Many thanks, Jill

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Hi All If anyone has access to the above index and would be willing to do a look up for me, please contact me off list. Cheers Anne Hanson [email protected]

Margery, I wouldn't say it was an error - It seems the Registrar was probably being super-efficient and covering all options with respect to pervious issue. In fact it would have helped me in a number of research situations if such a question had been compulsory (i.e. where the parents had previously been married or had children in another relationship). Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margery Whitham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:29 AM Subject: [AVNE] Birth Certificate - error! > My sister was registered at birth in Swan Hill on 25th November 1930. > (U.R. Beverford). Under ' Parents' the name of the father is given and > in this case under "Previous Issue" is the following:- > Previous issue - No previous issue. > By a former marriage No issue. > > There was definitely no former marriage. Has anyone else ever come > across such a discrepancy (or similar) on a Birth Registration > certificate? Why would those words be entered - could it simply have > been an error by the Registrar? > > Margery >

My sister was registered at birth in Swan Hill on 25th November 1930. (U.R. Beverford). Under ' Parents' the name of the father is given and in this case under "Previous Issue" is the following:- Previous issue - No previous issue. By a former marriage No issue. There was definitely no former marriage. Has anyone else ever come across such a discrepancy (or similar) on a Birth Registration certificate? Why would those words be entered - could it simply have been an error by the Registrar? Margery

Thank you Peter for forwarding this on regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Lakeman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Fw: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile > From: Dr Brian E Lloyd <[email protected]> > > ------------------------------------ > > Dear <[email protected]>, > > Linda has given you the right information. I still have copies of Tales of > the Ten Mile: Ballybeg to the Bush, for $20. I includes a complete history > of the Allens of ten Mile. > > Tom Allen was buried at Jamieson, is the large family tomb. I have a > picture of his funeral procession. > > Brian Lloyd > > >>From: "Damien" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Subject: Fw: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile >>Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:40:37 +1100 >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" >><[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:36 PM >>Subject: [AVNE] Allen Family of Ten Mile >> >>>Hi Everyone, >>> >>>This post was on AUS-VIC-CENTRAL, but I have come across here to reply, >>>as I think this is the more correct list. >>> >>>Denise wrote: >>> >>>>I have a death notice which I feel may belong to the Thomas Allen I am >>>>after. >>>> >>>> 12 Nov 1904 >>>> Mrs. Allen and family (Ten Mile) desire to thank their many >>>> friends for their kind expressions of sympathy, telegrams and letters, >>>> condoling with them in their recent sad bereavement ; also to Father >>>> Egan and Dr. Healy for their extreme kindness and attention. >>>> >>>>Does anyone have access to cemetery records for Mansfield, Ten Mile, or >>>>Jamieson - I am assuming this chap would have been buried in one of >>>>these cemeteries - but am open to suggestions if any others come to >>>>mind. >>>> >>>>I need to confirm place of birth to be sure I am chasing the right man. >>> >>>The reference I am using is Voice of the Mountains, Journal of the >>>Mountain Cattlemen's Assoc of Victoria, no 18, 1995. It is the special >>>Wonnangatta issue. >>> >>>In it, Dr Brian Lloyd provided a two-page article "Allen Brothers, the >>>Alexander Syndicate and Wonnangatta Station". He discusses the >>>involvement of Thomas Allen's sons with a number of properties and areas >>>and taking over Wonnangatta station after murders there in 1918. The >>>article basically serves as a short family history of that generation. >>> >>>The article is an edited version of his book "Tales of the Ten Mile: >>>Ballybeg to the Bush", due for publication in 1995. In it he writes of >>>the life and times of his great-grandmother, Mrs Mary Allen of Ten Mile. >>> >>>He also published "Off to Wonnangatta: Victorian Mountain Cattle Country >>>in 1922" by Marge Allen. >>> >>>In 1995 his publications were available from Histec Publications, 13 >>>Connor St, Brighton East 3187. (Or you may be able to obtain "Tales of >>>the Ten Mile" through inter-library loan - that is if there is not >>>someone on the list who has a copy who could consult it for you - I do >>>not have a copy. Or someone may be able to advise you where you could >>>purchase a copy. Maybe Jamieson Historical Society???? >>> >>>Regards >>> >>>Linda > >