Dear Jon, The Kilmore Historical Society may be help to you. See: www.kilmorehistory.info. See also Kilmore Footsteps: http://www.users.bigpond.com/peter_pidgeon/kilmore_footsteps.htm Your contribution welcome. "Kilmore on the Sydney Road" by Maya Tucker refers only to a Mr FINN of "Finn and Company brewers who were on Mitchell Street" (in about 1860). There is also a book you might like to follow up: "The Flour Mills of Victoria 1840-1990" by Lewis and Peggy JONES. Kind regards, Elizabeth Pidgeon www.pidgeon.info ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Patrick To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: John FINN MAyor og Kilmore 1880s A great great uncle of mine William MAson FINN wrote a book on travelling around NEastern Victoria. IN it he references John FINN as a the mayor of Kilmore owning a "first class mill" on the river. Does anyone have any details about John FINN and the possibility that the two are related. WM FINN was one of the first priests ordained in Victoria and brother to Edmund FINN aka GArryowen, my grgrgrfather, who wrote the Chronicles of Early Melbourne cheers Jon Patrick - -------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ______________________________

Hi everyone, I've been sent this link, don't know if these are always 'free'sites, but there is heaps of interesting records here. One or two weren't available though. This might only work for a dayor so??? Worth a try, The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/search/ausnzp/index.html Best wishes and happy hunting, Jill

Sorry for the off-list request but I need a little help. In MAy 1880 a benefit concert was put on in the Anthenaeum Hall in Melbourne for the family of T. Gorman who died from typhoid and left a wife and 3 small children. The interesting social value of this event is that he was a leading footballer for Carlton and a 1st cousin (3times removed) cousin of mine wrote a great poem for the event which we have a copy of. I am trying to prepare a story around the life of T Gorman and need any BDM info that is avaiable from the Pioneer Index thanks Jon Patrick ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

A great great uncle of mine William MAson FINN wrote a book on travelling around NEastern Victoria. IN it he references John FINN as a the mayor of Kilmore owning a "first class mill" on the river. Does anyone have any details about John FINN and the possibility that the two are related. WM FINN was one of the first priests ordained in Victoria and brother to Edmund FINN aka GArryowen, my grgrgrfather, who wrote the Chronicles of Early Melbourne cheers Jon Patrick ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

I am interested to know if anyone has any information on Peter NASH and Augusta RUNGE married 1885. I have the details of their 11 children births, most of them born in Chiltern. Also any information on Augusta's parents Julius RUNGE and Hanorah GORMAN, most of their children seem to have been born in CHiltern also. Julius Runge died in Chiltern in 1902. This research is for a friend who is a descendant. Regards Judy

Hi Joy I have just discovered where Barwo is. It was listed as a place of birth for two children in a family - one in 1900 and the other in 1901. The name is KLEESH and later, in 1909, Andrew Kleesh was working as a blacksmith in Tungamah. I was interested in any history of Barwo. I wondered what Andrew might have been working at there. Whether it used to be bigger than it is now. Also, what is there now. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Joy Bell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2005 9:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Barwon near Tungamah Hi Jennifer I'm from Nathalia.....can I be of any assistance? I missed your original query Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Lakeman <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: RE: [AVNE] Barwon near Tungamah > Hello again Jennifer, > > Glad to hear we have resolved the place, but sorry that I can't help any > further with details of Barwo. > > Hopefully one of the local listers may be able to help. > > Cheers > > Peter > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > At 11:55 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: > >Hello Peter > > > >Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake to assume that BARWO as > >the place of birth on the Digger index for children born in 1900 > >and 1901 was Barwon. The family were in Tungamah in 1909 when one > >of the children died. Their father was a blacksmith there. > > > >I located Barwo on a map, and as you say it is not near Tungamah. > >Do you happen to know anything about the history of Barwo? > > > >Thanks again. > > > >Jennifer > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05

Hi Jennifer I'm from Nathalia.....can I be of any assistance? I missed your original query Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Lakeman <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: RE: [AVNE] Barwon near Tungamah > Hello again Jennifer, > > Glad to hear we have resolved the place, but sorry that I can't help any > further with details of Barwo. > > Hopefully one of the local listers may be able to help. > > Cheers > > Peter > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > At 11:55 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: > >Hello Peter > > > >Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake to assume that BARWO as > >the place of birth on the Digger index for children born in 1900 > >and 1901 was Barwon. The family were in Tungamah in 1909 when one > >of the children died. Their father was a blacksmith there. > > > >I located Barwo on a map, and as you say it is not near Tungamah. > >Do you happen to know anything about the history of Barwo? > > > >Thanks again. > > > >Jennifer > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/05

Hi Peter Thank you for your reply. I will follow that up and see what else I can find. Regards Robyn -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2005 8:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Browns Plains Rd/Rutherglen/ Nicholson Hello Robyn, I'm not a local, but looking in the VicRoads directory I see that Browns Plains is about 15km east of Rutherglen on the Murray Valley Highway. I am guessing that perhaps Browns Plain Road is an earlier name for the Murray Valley Highway. That would mean that his farm was somewhere just east of Rutherglen. As I say, just a guess. Hope you get a more authoritive answer. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 03:50 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Listers >I have a death certificate for a relative, John NICHOLSON who died on 4th >March 1926 in Meehan St, Rutherglen. His occupation is given as farmer and >his usual address stated as Browns?/Burns? Plains Rd, Rutherglen. This >address is very difficult to decipher so I am only guessing. Is there anyone >out there who is familiar with the area who could point me in the right >direction so to speak? >Thanks in advance for any assistance. >Regards >Robyn

Hello again Jennifer, Glad to hear we have resolved the place, but sorry that I can't help any further with details of Barwo. Hopefully one of the local listers may be able to help. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 11:55 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Hello Peter > >Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake to assume that BARWO as >the place of birth on the Digger index for children born in 1900 >and 1901 was Barwon. The family were in Tungamah in 1909 when one >of the children died. Their father was a blacksmith there. > >I located Barwo on a map, and as you say it is not near Tungamah. >Do you happen to know anything about the history of Barwo? > >Thanks again. > >Jennifer

Hello Peter Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake to assume that BARWO as the place of birth on the Digger index for children born in 1900 and 1901 was Barwon. The family were in Tungamah in 1909 when one of the children died. Their father was a blacksmith there. I located Barwo on a map, and as you say it is not near Tungamah. Do you happen to know anything about the history of Barwo? Thanks again. Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2005 9:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Barwon near Tungamah Hello Jennifer, The only Barwon I know of is also called Barwon Downs and is down near Colac in the Western District. But I can't see a nearby town with a name anything like Tungamah. Could you be thinking of Barwo which one would describe as near Nathalia or near Shepparton (to go to the nearest big town)? Tungamah would be about 70km east of Barwo and not what one would normally draw a connection between. What is the connection you have between Barwo(n) and Tungamah? Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 05:19 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me where Barwon was? I have been told it was near >Tungamah. > >Jennifer

Hello Jennifer, The only Barwon I know of is also called Barwon Downs and is down near Colac in the Western District. But I can't see a nearby town with a name anything like Tungamah. Could you be thinking of Barwo which one would describe as near Nathalia or near Shepparton (to go to the nearest big town)? Tungamah would be about 70km east of Barwo and not what one would normally draw a connection between. What is the connection you have between Barwo(n) and Tungamah? Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 05:19 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me where Barwon was? I have been told it was near >Tungamah. > >Jennifer

Hello Robyn, I'm not a local, but looking in the VicRoads directory I see that Browns Plains is about 15km east of Rutherglen on the Murray Valley Highway. I am guessing that perhaps Browns Plain Road is an earlier name for the Murray Valley Highway. That would mean that his farm was somewhere just east of Rutherglen. As I say, just a guess. Hope you get a more authoritive answer. Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 03:50 PM 12/03/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Listers >I have a death certificate for a relative, John NICHOLSON who died on 4th >March 1926 in Meehan St, Rutherglen. His occupation is given as farmer and >his usual address stated as Browns?/Burns? Plains Rd, Rutherglen. This >address is very difficult to decipher so I am only guessing. Is there anyone >out there who is familiar with the area who could point me in the right >direction so to speak? >Thanks in advance for any assistance. >Regards >Robyn

Hi Macca The small cemeteries in NE Vic & Southern NSW (supposedly within a 100k radius of Alb/Wod) have been recorded by a local. A hard copy listing is held by the Albury Library & it is also available on CD. I would suggest you have a look at what has been done...it may save you some time, altho you have spare! Photos & inscriptions would certainly compliment her work. Depending on what you intend to put on your website you may need approval from the governing shires re burial records etc. Contact me off list if you would like further info - you can also give me some tips on how & where to get spare time!!! Regards Chris On Saturday, March 12, 2005, at 06:12 PM, Andrew McPhee wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone on the list know if a transcription has been done of the > Bethanga Cemetery? If it hasn't, I am keen to dip my toe into the > water and do it myself. > > Most of my research involves Canada, USA or Scotland and I have got > invaluable data from people who have done transcriptions from over > there that helped me out, so I thought I'd give a bit back and do some > cemeteries in the local area (NE Vic/Sth NSW). > > I've got spare time, a PDA, a digital camera and space on my website. > I'm rearing to go I just need to be pointed in the right direction! I > figure Bethanga Cem. is relatively small and it'd be a good intro. > > After that, I'd do some others around here - anyone have any > requests..? > > Andrew McPhee > >

Hi all, Does anyone on the list know if a transcription has been done of the Bethanga Cemetery? If it hasn't, I am keen to dip my toe into the water and do it myself. Most of my research involves Canada, USA or Scotland and I have got invaluable data from people who have done transcriptions from over there that helped me out, so I thought I'd give a bit back and do some cemeteries in the local area (NE Vic/Sth NSW). I've got spare time, a PDA, a digital camera and space on my website. I'm rearing to go I just need to be pointed in the right direction! I figure Bethanga Cem. is relatively small and it'd be a good intro. After that, I'd do some others around here - anyone have any requests..? Andrew McPhee

Hi Jackie, No problems, glad I could help out! If you need any more info from Bethanga Cemetery let me know, it's a nice drive out there, I'd be happy to go anytime! Regards, Andrew McPhee At 09:21 AM 10/03/2005 +1000, Jackie wrote: >Hi Andrew, >Thank you so much for this. >It's just a tad difficult to take the pics myself when I'm up here in >Queensland. >One day I plan to make another trip down that way. > > > > >At 04:23 PM 4/03/2005, Andrew McPhee wrote: >>Hello Jackie, >> >>I paid a visit to the Bethanga Cemetery today and got the details about >>Christiana Mitchell that you were looking for. <snip>

Andrew, All I know is that Albury Cemetery has records of who is buried there. Not sure about any details. Jackie QLD At 06:12 PM 12/03/2005, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Does anyone on the list know if a transcription has been done of the >Bethanga Cemetery? If it hasn't, I am keen to dip my toe into the water >and do it myself. > >Most of my research involves Canada, USA or Scotland and I have got >invaluable data from people who have done transcriptions from over there >that helped me out, so I thought I'd give a bit back and do some >cemeteries in the local area (NE Vic/Sth NSW). > >I've got spare time, a PDA, a digital camera and space on my website. I'm >rearing to go I just need to be pointed in the right direction! I figure >Bethanga Cem. is relatively small and it'd be a good intro. > >After that, I'd do some others around here - anyone have any requests..? > >Andrew McPhee

Can anyone tell me where Barwon was? I have been told it was near Tungamah. Jennifer

Hi Listers I have a death certificate for a relative, John NICHOLSON who died on 4th March 1926 in Meehan St, Rutherglen. His occupation is given as farmer and his usual address stated as Browns?/Burns? Plains Rd, Rutherglen. This address is very difficult to decipher so I am only guessing. Is there anyone out there who is familiar with the area who could point me in the right direction so to speak? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Regards Robyn

Dear Margery I don't think the Misses Phillips had christian names! They always advertised as the Misses Phillips, "The Pines" Railway St. Their house still stands. Just recently I have met 2 other families that lived in Kirkland street. The Yourens and Watts. They ladies are about your age. The Yourens also went to music lessons with the Misses Phillips! The house in Foy street still stands also. I am with the museum at Euroa, also in Kirkland st, Smith's boarding house, the old Farmers' Arms Hotel building. I am interested in anything to do with Euroa please. Where in Kirkland did you live? regards Loretta in Euroa [email protected] Most of the Euroa interest is of the saw mills owned by Frank and Louie Farrell and the Euroa Progress Association of which my father was Secretary. There is also mention of the house he built in Foy Street (with a flat roof) - we lived in Kirkland Avenue. My parents were Ernie and Alice Hunt and I am the youngest of their three daughters. There are five long pages of this section which I will willingly type and send if you are all interested - please let me know. He also wrote a great deal about his involvement in the internment camps at Puckapunyal and Tatura - he helped to build the first camps in these vicinities. Margery (Windsor, England) PS. Can anyone remember a lady named Miss Philipps who was a music teacher - I still have my first sheets of music covered in gold stars - she scared the daylights out of me when I was about 9 years of age (I'm 70 next birthday!). .

Hi Andrew, Thank you so much for this. It's just a tad difficult to take the pics myself when I'm up here in Queensland. One day I plan to make another trip down that way. Jackie At 04:23 PM 4/03/2005, you wrote: >Hello Jackie, > >I paid a visit to the Bethanga Cemetery today and got the details about >Christiana Mitchell that you were looking for. > >The inscription on her grave says: > >In Loving Memory of >Christiana Mitchell >Died 29th May 1934 >Aged 76 Years >Peace Perfect Peace > >I took my digital camera along and got some photos as well, I uploaded >them to my website. > >General view of cemetery: >http://mixedbunch.com/bethanga/Bethanga_Cem4.JPG > >View #1 of Mitchell crypt: >http://mixedbunch.com/bethanga/Bethanga_Cem6.JPG > >View #2 of Mitchell crypt: >http://mixedbunch.com/bethanga/Bethanga_Cem7.JPG > >Picture of inscriptions: >http://mixedbunch.com/bethanga/Bethanga_Cem8a.JPG > >Close-up of Christiana's inscription: >http://mixedbunch.com/bethanga/Bethanga_Cem8b.JPG > >Hope this helps, I wrote down all the inscriptions from the Mitchell >gravestones just in case you needed any other dates confirmed, I have to >go out right now but I'll put these in another message later tonight. > >Kind regards, >Andrew McPhee > > > > > >>From: Jackie <[email protected]> >>Subject: Bethanga Burial >>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:14:00 +1000 >> >> >>Hi all, >> >>I've just received a gedcom from a family member and there is a slight >>anomaly. >>I am hoping someone can check it out for me please. >> >>Christiana MITCHELL (nee SIRL) >>died 29 April or May 1924 and buried at Bethanga. >>I have a photo of the grave but I can't see what the inscription is. >> >>It's a huge crypt with (from memory 6 or 8 people buried there). >>I looks a bit like a roman building with 4 pillars at each corner of the >>roof. However, the roof doesn't completely cover the base. >> >>If anyone can check for me and would like a photo to make it easier to >>find, please email me off list. >> >>Jackie >>QLD