Hi Everyone, Firstly my apologies for being off topic and then for cross posting but I need you help... My husband's father passed away on the weekend and he has the job of writing the eulogy for his father. My husband is after the words to a poem that goes something like - "when I was young I thought my dad knew everything, when I was a teenager I thought he knew nothing & now I realise he knew everything" or something along those lines. Can anybody help me with the words but we need them today as the funeral is Wednesday. Many thanks, Catherine

Jo, Have e-mail Ian Hyndman the author of Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history and asked him to e-mail you. There are also references to the Warrens in Tom Griffith's, Beechworth An Australian Country Town & Its Past. Am not sure where you live, but you should be able to get that book and Carole Woods book if you live in Victoria. If you have a problem doing same get back to me. In the 1857 Ovens Directory I found a Mrs. Warren living at Cornwall House, Loch Street, Beechworth. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: JoKo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Thanks Anne, I am interested in all of them as they are all related. William is William Henry, my Great Great Grandfather, and his brother Richard then obviously becomes my Great Great Uncle. Dick also is related. I know Richard is Buried at Beechworth, and as one of the pioneers of the area am sure he'd be mentioned in the Cemetery book. Am looking forward to hearing from Ian, or ordering a copy. Also chasing Rowes and others from the pioneering era of Beechworth. Regards Jo. Jo, There are 3 Warrens referred to in Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods - that is Dick, Richard & William - which one are you interested in? Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history by Ian Hyndman only lists a few of graves of historic interest, but I think you could order a copy from the writer himself. I will contact him and ask him to e-mail you. He is also a member of the Beechworth Cemetery Trust so he would be able to help you out in relation to burial enquiries. Cheers Anne Hanson. -----Original Message----- From: JoKo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Anne, would you have any Warrens, or Rowe's in the Beechworth Cemetery book and would you know where I could get a copy? Regards Jo. -------Original Message------- From: Anne Hanson Date: 04/06/05 08:46:47 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Hi Peter, Would you like to add my name as a look up for the following books: Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history - Ian Hyndman History of Beechworth - Ian Hyndman Background to Beechworth - compiled by Roy Harvey Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods Beechworth - An Australian Country Town and its Past. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

Thanks Anne, I am interested in all of them as they are all related. William is William Henry, my Great Great Grandfather, and his brother Richard then obviously becomes my Great Great Uncle. Dick also is related. I know Richard is Buried at Beechworth, and as one of the pioneers of the area am sure he'd be mentioned in the Cemetery book. Am looking forward to hearing from Ian, or ordering a copy. Also chasing Rowes and others from the pioneering era of Beechworth. Regards Jo. Jo, There are 3 Warrens referred to in Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods - that is Dick, Richard & William - which one are you interested in? Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history by Ian Hyndman only lists a few of graves of historic interest, but I think you could order a copy from the writer himself. I will contact him and ask him to e-mail you. He is also a member of the Beechworth Cemetery Trust so he would be able to help you out in relation to burial enquiries. Cheers Anne Hanson. -----Original Message----- From: JoKo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Anne, would you have any Warrens, or Rowe's in the Beechworth Cemetery book and would you know where I could get a copy? Regards Jo. -------Original Message------- From: Anne Hanson Date: 04/06/05 08:46:47 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Hi Peter, Would you like to add my name as a look up for the following books: Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history - Ian Hyndman History of Beechworth - Ian Hyndman Background to Beechworth - compiled by Roy Harvey Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods Beechworth - An Australian Country Town and its Past. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005

Jo, There are 3 Warrens referred to in Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods - that is Dick, Richard & William - which one are you interested in? Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history by Ian Hyndman only lists a few of graves of historic interest, but I think you could order a copy from the writer himself. I will contact him and ask him to e-mail you. He is also a member of the Beechworth Cemetery Trust so he would be able to help you out in relation to burial enquiries. Cheers Anne Hanson. -----Original Message----- From: JoKo [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 9:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Anne, would you have any Warrens, or Rowe's in the Beechworth Cemetery book and would you know where I could get a copy? Regards Jo. -------Original Message------- From: Anne Hanson Date: 04/06/05 08:46:47 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Hi Peter, Would you like to add my name as a look up for the following books: Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history - Ian Hyndman History of Beechworth - Ian Hyndman Background to Beechworth - compiled by Roy Harvey Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods Beechworth - An Australian Country Town and its Past. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005

Hi List I'm looking for anyone researching the name Ludeman in Victoria. I'm a decendant of Henry Herman LUDEMAN and Paulina KOCH. The names I have associated with the family include FEGAN, SAUNDERS, BRADY, HAMILTON, HARKER, OLIVER, TYNDALL, WALLACE and KELLY just to name a few. Some names I don't have too much information on yet. Would love to make contact with anyone researching these families. Would also like to make contact with anyone researching the LUDEMAN name. Other names I'm researching in Victoria include - STODDEN, MARTIN, COLE, MURDOCH and more. Faye

Hello Denise, Thanks for that info about the 1857 Ovens Directory. Best wishes, Jill

The link http://members.optushome.com.au/lenorefrost/ovensdir.html also gives you the Ovens Directory for 1857 Denise

Hello Jill, John H Matthews is listed in the Ovens Directory [1857] at the back of Background to Beechworth as a chemist in the Woolshed locality. I did a quick check through the rest of the book and through Carole Wood's book - "A Titan's Field" but couldn't find anything else. The localities within the Directory include Reid's Creek, Woolshed, Devil's Elbow[Lower Woolshed], Sebastopol Flat etc. Hope this helps - it's not much, sorry! Thanks. Nicole -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. ' MATTHEWS' Hi Nicole, Thanks for offering to do a look-up. This is the name I would like to know more about please? John H Matthews. Page 57 Many thanks and ,-._|\ best wishes, / Oz \ jill , brisbane. \_,--.x/ [email protected] v

Hi Nicole, Thanks for offering to do a look-up. This is the name I would like to know more about please? John H Matthews. Page 57 Many thanks and ,-._|\ best wishes, / Oz \ jill , brisbane. \_,--.x/ [email protected] v

Dear List, Just back from what my husband refers to the "genealogy" holiday through some of the North East. Visited several cemetries. I also have the new book about the history of the gold rush and settlement of "The Buckland Valley Goldfield" by Diann Talbot. There is some information about families (although mainly history) and I am willing to do look ups for people if they are interested. I also now have a copy of "Big Camp Wahgunyah" which I am also willing to do look ups for. Regards, Robyn Kane Amsterdam

I've had an old plough lying about the place for years and finally I've put it where it can be seen in the garden as "decoration". So for the first time, I've really had a good look at it. It's a single furrow plough, with two handles (as you'd expect), and on the main iron component there are three words stamped in when the metal was still red-hot. In large capital letters on the top is the name HUNTLY, and beside that a word I simply can not read (not even a letter) and at this stage can't tell whether it's upside down even! Further down the piece is most of the word CARLTON, again in large capitals. Is anyone able to help identify this for me? It looks perfect where I've put it, and would like to know more about it. Peter Ross Osbornes Flat

Thanks Christine. I don't think he's mine. Sheila. Christine wrote: > Hi Sheila > > James McNamara stated that he resided at Osborne's Flat, and was > married, with five in family. Held 37 acres, selected land. > > Chris > On Monday, April 4, 2005, at 07:14 AM, The McKennas wrote: > >> Hi Christine, >> Could I have details of James McNamara of Osborne's Flat please? >> Thanks. >> Sheila. >> Christine wrote: >> >>> Wodonga & Towong Sentinel 21.1.1887. >>> >>> 49 applications for 1 block at Bonegilla - >>> if your man/woman is amongst the following, I can tell you small >>> tidbits on his/her status at the time. >>> >>> John Bassett - Wodonga >>> Julia Bownds >>> WR Bownds >>> John Brown - Bonegilla >>> William Craig - Wodonga >>> John Cummins - Bonegilla >>> Ebenezer Dibley >>> James T. Dumbrell - Howlong >>> John Dumbrell - Baranduda >>> W. Dumbrell >>> Edward O Dunstan - Little River >>> John McDonald - Bonegilla >>> John K McFarlane - Bungil >>> Chas E McGovern - Albury >>> Maragaret McGrath >>> James McNamara - Osborne's Flat >>> Edwin C Ellis - Albury >>> Owen Evans - did not appear >>> Patrick Flanagan - Wodonga >>> John Grant - Tallangatta >>> Charles Hattersley - Yack >>> John Hensley - Wodonga >>> Michael Hoban - Beechworth >>> Joseph Horsfall - Middle Creek >>> Thomas Johnston - Wodonga >>> Albert Kennedy - Bonegilla >>> Patrick Kirley - Kiewa >>> Conrad Klienitz - Baranduda >>> James Lawson - Kiewa >>> John Maginness - Wooragee >>> Sarah Maher - Bonegilla >>> Neville Newman - Bonegilla >>> Joseph Pollard - Bonegilla >>> James Pollock - Staghorn Flat >>> Michael Quirk - Indigo Creek >>> Thomas Quirk - Bonegilla >>> William Rea - Allan's Flat >>> James Roach - Kiewa >>> Patrick Ryan - Bonegilla >>> Sarah Ryan - Wodonga >>> Jeremiah Ryall - Staghorn Flat >>> Martin Shelley - Indigo >>> Thomas Smith - Bonegilla >>> John J. Stapleton - Tallangatta >>> Charles Starr - Middle Creek >>> Brainard Stone - Hillsborough >>> Chas Trenchard - Twist's Creek >>> WH Weeks - Wodonga >>> >>> The board saw fit to divide the block into 3 portions of 80 acres each. >>> Conrad Kleinitz, Thomas Smith & William Rea were the lucky ones!! >>> >>> Regards >>> Chris >>> >>> . >>> >> >> > > . >

Anne, would you have any Warrens, or Rowe's in the Beechworth Cemetery book and would you know where I could get a copy? Regards Jo. -------Original Message------- From: Anne Hanson Date: 04/06/05 08:46:47 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [AVNE] 'background to Beechworth' book look-up please. Hi Peter, Would you like to add my name as a look up for the following books: Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history - Ian Hyndman History of Beechworth - Ian Hyndman Background to Beechworth - compiled by Roy Harvey Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods Beechworth - An Australian Country Town and its Past. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005

Hi Jill, I have a copy and will be happy to look up anything you like. Just let me know what you want! Cheers! Nicole Jones -----Original Message----- From: Jill Glover [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 10:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hi everyone, Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a couple of look-ups for me please? >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< Best wishes, Jill

Hi Peter, Would you like to add my name as a look up for the following books: Beechworth Cemetery - A stroll through history - Ian Hyndman History of Beechworth - Ian Hyndman Background to Beechworth - compiled by Roy Harvey Beechworth A Titan's Field - Carole Woods Beechworth - An Australian Country Town and its Past. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Peter Lakeman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] 'background to beechworth' book look-up please. Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill

For those with an interest in the Buckland, the new book by Diann Talbot of Bright is an absolute must... "The Buckland Valley Goldfield". (ISBN No. 0-9757170-0-6). I bought my copy last weekend and it is a beautiful piece of work. Well written, wonderful photographs, maps, illustrations etc and well indexed. The research Diann must have done is quite staggering! Peter Ross

Hello Jill, There are book descriptions and lookup offers on the AVNE book webpage. Follow the book link from the main page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/AVNE/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:30 PM 05/04/2005 +1000, you wrote: > Hi everyone, > Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a >couple of look-ups for me please? > > >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) >compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< > >Best wishes, >Jill

Hi everyone, Does anbody have a copy of this book, and would be able to do a couple of look-ups for me please? >Background to Beechworth - From 1852 (Fourth Edition) compiled by Roy C. Harvey,< Best wishes, Jill

Hi Norma Chas. Trenchard, a miner, at Twist's Creek, said he was married with eight children, six of whom depended upon him. He never selected nor held land. Regards Chris On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Norma Burrows wrote: > Hi Christine > I would be interested in any information re Chas Trenchard > > Thanks > > Norma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:10 AM > Subject: [AVNE] A Big land scramble > > >> Wodonga & Towong Sentinel 21.1.1887. >> >> 49 applications for 1 block at Bonegilla - >> if your man/woman is amongst the following, I can tell you small >> tidbits on his/her status at the time. >> >> John Bassett - Wodonga >> Julia Bownds >> WR Bownds >> John Brown - Bonegilla >> William Craig - Wodonga >> John Cummins - Bonegilla >> Ebenezer Dibley >> James T. Dumbrell - Howlong >> John Dumbrell - Baranduda >> W. Dumbrell >> Edward O Dunstan - Little River >> John McDonald - Bonegilla >> John K McFarlane - Bungil >> Chas E McGovern - Albury >> Maragaret McGrath >> James McNamara - Osborne's Flat >> Edwin C Ellis - Albury >> Owen Evans - did not appear >> Patrick Flanagan - Wodonga >> John Grant - Tallangatta >> Charles Hattersley - Yack >> John Hensley - Wodonga >> Michael Hoban - Beechworth >> Joseph Horsfall - Middle Creek >> Thomas Johnston - Wodonga >> Albert Kennedy - Bonegilla >> Patrick Kirley - Kiewa >> Conrad Klienitz - Baranduda >> James Lawson - Kiewa >> John Maginness - Wooragee >> Sarah Maher - Bonegilla >> Neville Newman - Bonegilla >> Joseph Pollard - Bonegilla >> James Pollock - Staghorn Flat >> Michael Quirk - Indigo Creek >> Thomas Quirk - Bonegilla >> William Rea - Allan's Flat >> James Roach - Kiewa >> Patrick Ryan - Bonegilla >> Sarah Ryan - Wodonga >> Jeremiah Ryall - Staghorn Flat >> Martin Shelley - Indigo >> Thomas Smith - Bonegilla >> John J. Stapleton - Tallangatta >> Charles Starr - Middle Creek >> Brainard Stone - Hillsborough >> Chas Trenchard - Twist's Creek >> WH Weeks - Wodonga >> >> The board saw fit to divide the block into 3 portions of 80 acres >> each. >> Conrad Kleinitz, Thomas Smith & William Rea were the lucky ones!! >> >> Regards >> Chris >> >> > >

Hi Christine I would be interested in any information re Chas Trenchard Thanks Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: [AVNE] A Big land scramble > Wodonga & Towong Sentinel 21.1.1887. > > 49 applications for 1 block at Bonegilla - > if your man/woman is amongst the following, I can tell you small > tidbits on his/her status at the time. > > John Bassett - Wodonga > Julia Bownds > WR Bownds > John Brown - Bonegilla > William Craig - Wodonga > John Cummins - Bonegilla > Ebenezer Dibley > James T. Dumbrell - Howlong > John Dumbrell - Baranduda > W. Dumbrell > Edward O Dunstan - Little River > John McDonald - Bonegilla > John K McFarlane - Bungil > Chas E McGovern - Albury > Maragaret McGrath > James McNamara - Osborne's Flat > Edwin C Ellis - Albury > Owen Evans - did not appear > Patrick Flanagan - Wodonga > John Grant - Tallangatta > Charles Hattersley - Yack > John Hensley - Wodonga > Michael Hoban - Beechworth > Joseph Horsfall - Middle Creek > Thomas Johnston - Wodonga > Albert Kennedy - Bonegilla > Patrick Kirley - Kiewa > Conrad Klienitz - Baranduda > James Lawson - Kiewa > John Maginness - Wooragee > Sarah Maher - Bonegilla > Neville Newman - Bonegilla > Joseph Pollard - Bonegilla > James Pollock - Staghorn Flat > Michael Quirk - Indigo Creek > Thomas Quirk - Bonegilla > William Rea - Allan's Flat > James Roach - Kiewa > Patrick Ryan - Bonegilla > Sarah Ryan - Wodonga > Jeremiah Ryall - Staghorn Flat > Martin Shelley - Indigo > Thomas Smith - Bonegilla > John J. Stapleton - Tallangatta > Charles Starr - Middle Creek > Brainard Stone - Hillsborough > Chas Trenchard - Twist's Creek > WH Weeks - Wodonga > > The board saw fit to divide the block into 3 portions of 80 acres each. > Conrad Kleinitz, Thomas Smith & William Rea were the lucky ones!! > > Regards > Chris > >