Hello Corinne, Undera is covered by this (AVNE) list. The following list of town names (and some list names) can be helpful. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/victowns/ Cheers Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 10:04 AM 09/05/2005 +1100, you wrote: >Hello Friends, > >Is "UNDERA" covered by this List? Or do I need to move over a bit? > >Am interested in a pioneer farmer in that area ...... one WILLIAM WARREN who >was born in 1815 in Cornwall ...... died Undera 1883. > >Does anyone know of him, or his descendants, please? > >Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne.

Hello Friends, Is "UNDERA" covered by this List? Or do I need to move over a bit? Am interested in a pioneer farmer in that area ...... one WILLIAM WARREN who was born in 1815 in Cornwall ...... died Undera 1883. Does anyone know of him, or his descendants, please? Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne.

Hello Corinne The person to contact ( or he was last time I needed to know something )about the Mooroopna Cemetery is Mr Bill Ferrari 37 Archer Street Mooroopna Phone 58252248 He is very helpful good luck Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Corinne Thompson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [AVNE] WARREN - Undera. > > > Hello again, > > William WARREN's death certificate shows that he was buried in Mooroopna > Cemetery. > > Has this cemetery been transcribed? And if so, does anyone have the > transcriptions, please? > > Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne, Australia. > > > > Hello Friends, > > > > Is "UNDERA" covered by this List? Or do I need to move over a bit? > > > > Am interested in a pioneer farmer in that area ...... one WILLIAM WARREN who > > was born in 1815 in Cornwall ...... died Undera 1883. > > > > Does anyone know of him, or his descendants, please? > > > > Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne. > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/05 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.6 - Release Date: 5/6/05

Hi List I am new to the list and new to Victorian research generally, having only just hit upon the fact that many of my family were actually in Chiltern before they went to Wagga NSW and Bourke NSW. So I am interested in 1. tips any of the experts from your list might give me on Victorian research generally - for instance, is their a Post Office Directory which would cover Chiltern in the period 1855-1875? What other publications would you advise me to look at? 2. Is there a good general history of Chiltern I should be looking at? 3, Would anybody out there have come across the name WARMOLL (WORMALL, WORMOLL) or TULLY (TULLEY). I have lots of births and a death and marriages which place the family in Growlers Creek, Chiltern, Indi, Buckland, Lockwood. Thanks in anticipation. Any tips would be gratefully received. Cheers Jill

Hi All I'd like to hear from anyone who has an interest in Elias ELLIS (b.1820-Sussex, married Margaret Mary CORCORAN/COCHRANE 1867 in Vic and d. 23 Jul 1875 in Melbourne. Elias & Margaret ELLIS'S children were: ELLIS Emily b. 1866 d. 1957-Brunswick, Vic. married CONSIDINE Michael 1907. ELLIS Isabelle b. 1867-Violet Town, Vic. d. 1947-Fitzroy, Vic. ELLIS John b. 1869-Violet Town, Vic. d. 1956-St. Kilda, Vic. ELLIS Mary Ellen b. 1869 d. 1951-Rochester, Vic. married BOYLE James Henry in 1903. ELLIS Charles b. 1871-Violet Town, Vic. d. 1945-Parkville, Vic. ELLIS Thomas b. 1874-Violet Town, Vic. d. 1882-Violet Town, Vic. ELLIS Cedric James b. 1878-Vic. d. 1946-Fitzroy, Vic. ELLIS Francis Patrick b. 1881 d. 1964-Violet Town, Vic. ELLIS Thomas b. 1883-Violet Town, Vic. d. 1930-Violet Town, Vic. There does seem to be a problem with the male parentage of the last three children but I can only go by what I've found on the Vic BDM's. Cheers Anne Hanson [email protected]

Dear MAry & Lesley, I have in my family James DUNCAN m Mary REIDY with child JAmes (1845-1895) who married Isabella McGrath in 1871, plus descedants. DO they match with any of yours? cheers jon Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:32:58 +1000 From: "Mary Conway" <[email protected]> Hi Lesley - I've been trying to find an Alex Duncan - believed to be an Engineer at the Asylum, who was later at the Yarra Bend Asylum. Have found a David Duncan - Engineer by searching children at the Primary School (I'll have to check the dates) - maybe some connection. My Grand Mother was born in B'worth 1879 and we believe went to Melb. to live with her Uncle after her mother died - Alex Duncan - but we have no details / timing My G.G. Mother was Minnie Hennessey b1849 Cork, Ireland d1886 B'worth - She came out in 1852 or thereabouts - so looking for some connection between Duncan and Hennessey. Any info greatly received, good luck Mary Conway -----Original Message----- From: lesley kiker [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2005 11:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] Duncan family Beechworth I am researching the Duncan/ Pritchard/Driscoll families of Beechworth and was wondering if there is anyone else researching any of these families. In particular the Duncan family. In amongst my grandparents photos there are a great deal of unidentified photos of which I have had copied. I was wondering if there is anyone out there that may be able to put a name to some of these. Some of the Duncan christian names are John, William and Hector. Thank you Lesley Kiker --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Jon ______________________________________________________________

Thanks Anne Appreciate you taking the time to reply. Regards Chris On Sunday, May 1, 2005, at 06:45 PM, Anne Hanson wrote: > Christine, > > Am not sure if anyone got back to you re the Union Hotel. I must admit > I > live in Beechworth and haven't heard of it but that doesn't mean it > didn't > exist. > > You may want to contact the Burke Museum in Beechworth as they should > be > able to help you. There e-mail address is: > [email protected] and the tel. no. is (03) 5728-8067. > > Cheers > > Anne Hanson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 5:44 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [AVNE] Union Hotel - Beechworth > > > Hi All > > Hoping someone can tell me who owned the Union Hotel in Beechworth in > 1854. > > It was sold sometime about Aug - Oct 1854. > > All & any information appreciated. > > Thanks > Chris > >

Christine, Am not sure if anyone got back to you re the Union Hotel. I must admit I live in Beechworth and haven't heard of it but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. You may want to contact the Burke Museum in Beechworth as they should be able to help you. There e-mail address is: [email protected] and the tel. no. is (03) 5728-8067. Cheers Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Christine [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 5:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AVNE] Union Hotel - Beechworth Hi All Hoping someone can tell me who owned the Union Hotel in Beechworth in 1854. It was sold sometime about Aug - Oct 1854. All & any information appreciated. Thanks Chris

Hi all Some general information which I hope will clarify why sometimes we see bdm registrations cross referenced. It is a simple matter of when the paper work reaches the Registrar. ie the event may have occurred in 1860 but not registered until 1865 so we would see 2 entries thus 1860 1234x1865, (1860=yr of event, 1234 regn#,1865=yr of registration) 1865 1234 (the year of registration & regn#) This does NOT indicate the event was registered twice or re-registration has occurred. There will ever only be the ONE certificate. I guess delays in getting the paper work to the official department occurred for various reasons in the early days of colonisation. We must be thankful the majority did reached the destination & for those that took 'a little longer' be thankful that they did get there.... eventually. Regards Chris

Hi All Hoping someone can tell me who owned the Union Hotel in Beechworth in 1854. It was sold sometime about Aug - Oct 1854. All & any information appreciated. Thanks Chris

Does anyone know where the Italian Lead was in 1859? I suspect in the Chiltern area, but would be interested in learning more about this lead if anyone knows. regards Denise

Yes Anne Mr.R. Thornton was a second entry. d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hollingshead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Names from the - OMA April 29th 1858 I think Mr. J. Emmel £1 could well be Dr John Gemmel but not sure if Mr THORNTON is my Charles Unless the Mr R THORNTON was another entry. Many thanks Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: [AVNE] Names from the - OMA April 29th 1858 > Anne - > Mr Thornton (doesn't say which one) paid J H Matthews 10/- > don't know if this is anything, but believe me the typesetting on this list > must have been done in a real hurry - horrible errors > Mr. J. Emmel £1 > Mr. R. Thornton 10/- > > Alex Keefer £1.1.0 > William Tellford 10/- > J H Gray £1 > John K Brown £1 > Pearson Turner & Co. £11s (so was this shillings, pounds or one pound one > shilling?) > Solomon & Hyenza £1 > Wm Milne 5/- > Thos Hedley 5/- > Johnstone Hedley 5/- > > some of the names in the list in the paper obviously got caught by different > collectors - they appear more than once. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hollingshead" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > > > > THORNTON Wooragee > > GEMMEL " > > > > > > Thanks for the opportunity Denise ! > > > > Anne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:27 PM > > Subject: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > > > > > >> I have this paper in the reader at the moment and have come across a > > rather large list of names who donated to the Indian Relief Fund. > >> > >> If you want me to look up your name, please send it in TOGETHER with the > > area in which the person resided. The amounts are really surprising. > >> > >> I'll have it available until tomorrow night Sunday 24th april > >> regards > >> Denise > >> > > >

I think Mr. J. Emmel £1 could well be Dr John Gemmel but not sure if Mr THORNTON is my Charles Unless the Mr R THORNTON was another entry. Many thanks Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:17 PM Subject: [AVNE] Names from the - OMA April 29th 1858 > Anne - > Mr Thornton (doesn't say which one) paid J H Matthews 10/- > don't know if this is anything, but believe me the typesetting on this list > must have been done in a real hurry - horrible errors > Mr. J. Emmel £1 > Mr. R. Thornton 10/- > > Alex Keefer £1.1.0 > William Tellford 10/- > J H Gray £1 > John K Brown £1 > Pearson Turner & Co. £11s (so was this shillings, pounds or one pound one > shilling?) > Solomon & Hyenza £1 > Wm Milne 5/- > Thos Hedley 5/- > Johnstone Hedley 5/- > > some of the names in the list in the paper obviously got caught by different > collectors - they appear more than once. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hollingshead" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > > > > THORNTON Wooragee > > GEMMEL " > > > > > > Thanks for the opportunity Denise ! > > > > Anne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:27 PM > > Subject: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > > > > > >> I have this paper in the reader at the moment and have come across a > > rather large list of names who donated to the Indian Relief Fund. > >> > >> If you want me to look up your name, please send it in TOGETHER with the > > area in which the person resided. The amounts are really surprising. > >> > >> I'll have it available until tomorrow night Sunday 24th april > >> regards > >> Denise > >> > > >

Hi Simon, Wondering if you can contact me please regarding Hotel Licenses etc in the northeast - we spoke about this about 12-18 months ago regards Denise

Anne - Mr Thornton (doesn't say which one) paid J H Matthews 10/- don't know if this is anything, but believe me the typesetting on this list must have been done in a real hurry - horrible errors Mr. J. Emmel £1 Mr. R. Thornton 10/- Alex Keefer £1.1.0 William Tellford 10/- J H Gray £1 John K Brown £1 Pearson Turner & Co. £11s (so was this shillings, pounds or one pound one shilling?) Solomon & Hyenza £1 Wm Milne 5/- Thos Hedley 5/- Johnstone Hedley 5/- some of the names in the list in the paper obviously got caught by different collectors - they appear more than once. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hollingshead" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > THORNTON Wooragee > GEMMEL " > > > Thanks for the opportunity Denise ! > > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:27 PM > Subject: [AVNE] OMA April 29th 1858 > > >> I have this paper in the reader at the moment and have come across a > rather large list of names who donated to the Indian Relief Fund. >> >> If you want me to look up your name, please send it in TOGETHER with the > area in which the person resided. The amounts are really surprising. >> >> I'll have it available until tomorrow night Sunday 24th april >> regards >> Denise >> >

Maybe she changed her name - perhaps embarrassed? D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: RE: [AVNE] Death - Ann Gedge > Denise, > > Guess what - David Baleham GEDGE and his wife Ann (nee BROOKMAN) were the > parents of the David GEDGE who was judiciously executed (charming phrase > isn't it). It's a long story which I won't go into now except to say I > have > been researching David GEDGE and his two fellow accused Elizabeth SCOTT > and > Julian CROSS for more years than I care to think about. I am writing a > book > about the case. They were all charged and found guilty of murdering > Elizabeth's husband, Robert SCOTT at Devil's River. It's a very sad tale. > > I'm attempting to locate a photograph of David GEDGE, hence am tracing all > sorts of relatives etc. > > Ann GEDGE seems to have disappeared sometime after 1863. Her husband, > David > Baleham GEDGE died in Richmond, Vic. in 1894. > > I think I've checked the Vic. divorce index but may be I should check > again. > > Many thanks for your interest. > > Cheers. > > Anne Hanson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2005 5:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Death - Ann Gedge > > > Anne, David Gedge was judiciously hung in Melbourne's H M Goal in 1862 he > was a groom and 19 years of age. > Going by the age and date of marriage, I guess it can't be your man unless > the Inquest age was transcribed incorrectly. > Any chance Ann could have remarried? > Denise > > >> Hi All, >> >> I and others have searched high and low for a death entry for an Ann >> GEDGE >> (nee BROOKMAN) b. England, possibly Middlesex county, 1813/1814 - >> father's >> name Henry and she married David Baleham GEDGE, London in 1841. >> >> Ann was still alive and living near Buninyong, Vic. in 1863. I would be >> most >> grateful if someone came up with her death entry. I should mention Ann >> had >> 7 >> children betw. 1843 and 1858 - David, William Benjamin, George, Sarah >> Ann, >> James Robert, Joseph and Catherine Jane (born in 1858, Durham Lead, Vic.) >

Denise, Guess what - David Baleham GEDGE and his wife Ann (nee BROOKMAN) were the parents of the David GEDGE who was judiciously executed (charming phrase isn't it). It's a long story which I won't go into now except to say I have been researching David GEDGE and his two fellow accused Elizabeth SCOTT and Julian CROSS for more years than I care to think about. I am writing a book about the case. They were all charged and found guilty of murdering Elizabeth's husband, Robert SCOTT at Devil's River. It's a very sad tale. I'm attempting to locate a photograph of David GEDGE, hence am tracing all sorts of relatives etc. Ann GEDGE seems to have disappeared sometime after 1863. Her husband, David Baleham GEDGE died in Richmond, Vic. in 1894. I think I've checked the Vic. divorce index but may be I should check again. Many thanks for your interest. Cheers. Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Denise [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2005 5:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] Death - Ann Gedge Anne, David Gedge was judiciously hung in Melbourne's H M Goal in 1862 he was a groom and 19 years of age. Going by the age and date of marriage, I guess it can't be your man unless the Inquest age was transcribed incorrectly. Any chance Ann could have remarried? Denise > Hi All, > > I and others have searched high and low for a death entry for an Ann GEDGE > (nee BROOKMAN) b. England, possibly Middlesex county, 1813/1814 - father's > name Henry and she married David Baleham GEDGE, London in 1841. > > Ann was still alive and living near Buninyong, Vic. in 1863. I would be > most > grateful if someone came up with her death entry. I should mention Ann had > 7 > children betw. 1843 and 1858 - David, William Benjamin, George, Sarah Ann, > James Robert, Joseph and Catherine Jane (born in 1858, Durham Lead, Vic.)

Anne, David Gedge was judiciously hung in Melbourne's H M Goal in 1862 he was a groom and 19 years of age. Going by the age and date of marriage, I guess it can't be your man unless the Inquest age was transcribed incorrectly. Any chance Ann could have remarried? Denise > Hi All, > > I and others have searched high and low for a death entry for an Ann GEDGE > (nee BROOKMAN) b. England, possibly Middlesex county, 1813/1814 - father's > name Henry and she married David Baleham GEDGE, London in 1841. > > Ann was still alive and living near Buninyong, Vic. in 1863. I would be > most > grateful if someone came up with her death entry. I should mention Ann had > 7 > children betw. 1843 and 1858 - David, William Benjamin, George, Sarah Ann, > James Robert, Joseph and Catherine Jane (born in 1858, Durham Lead, Vic.)

Hi Margaret, We've communicated earlier about Andrew Thomas Thompson - I guess the son? In connection with Crawford & Co. We'd love to communicate with you on this matter Margaret and we'll get in touch with you in a day or two if you don't mind, we have a few emails to sort thru at the moment. Many thanks Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Kennedy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Americans and the North East > Dear Denise, > My g.g. grandfather, William Halliday Thompson, was born near Dumfries in > Scotland. > He migrated to Canada and lived there for a time. He then came to > Australia for the gold rush. He married Mary McGibbon Paton and bought > some of the first properties in Mitta Mitta township. > Would Willaim fit your criteria? > If so I can provide more information > > Regards > Margaret Kennedy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AVNE] Americans and the North East > > >> Corinne - that will be fantastic thank you - as for the Dynamic Duo - >> Chris did that, sounds like something that goes in the washing machine! >> >> D >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Corinne Thompson" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:30 PM >> Subject: [AVNE] Americans and the North East >> >> >>> >>> Hello "Dynamic Duo", >>> >>> I have one for you, a William Alexander BLAKE, from Cincinatti. >>> He and his first wife, Elizabeth Rogerson were have children in Seymour, >>> Yea >>> etc. in the 1880s. Elizabeth died and he later married my great aunt, >>> Phillis MADDERN ...... hence my interest. >>> >>> Shall hunt up the info for you. >>> >>> Good luck with the project. >>> >>> Kindest Regards ...... Corinne in Melbourne. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Good afternoon all >>>> >>>> After deliberation, we have decided it was time to reveal to you all >>>> our latest project; a project never before undertaken. >>>> >>>> As many of you are aware, Denise has over the past 6 years tracked her >>>> Hiram through his many adventures, his family, his successful business >>>> ventures, the one most familiar to us all - his coaching firm. >>>> >>>> Along the way it became obvious to Denise that many men like her >>>> American born Hiram came to Australia and contributed to the >>>> development of this colony, in particular Victoria, in the Northeast. >>>> >>>> A lengthy list of men has been collected (and continues to grow). >>>> These men have either been born in the US or Canada, or at some stage >>>> lived in America. For whatever reason, they migrated to Australia >>>> during the gold rush days and either settled in the Northeast, Vic >>>> area, or perhaps only lingered for a short time, having made their >>>> fortune and perhaps then returned to their native land. >>>> >>>> Quite some time ago, Denise asked for my help in tracking these men and >>>> ultimately, compiling a 'story' on each. A huge challenge, but at the >>>> same time proving to be extremely interesting and rewarding. >>>> Oh my gosh, my undercover operations have just been revealed!! >>>> >>>> We believe these are the 'forgotten ones' in the history of Northeast >>>> Victoria, and no matter how large or small, their >>>> contribution has played a valuable role in shaping what we have today. >>>> >>>> We are now seeking anyone who may have ancestors who fall within our >>>> 'guidelines' or have men who served in the Civil War to make contact. >>>> >>>> Our current list is lengthy; so we may already have your man.....we are >>>> happy to share what we have with those who think there maybe a >>>> connection. In exchange we would hope for mutual sharing. In some >>>> cases, for the men and women we have so far tackled, we have made >>>> contact with descendants of the family or their siblings, in America >>>> and Canada. >>>> >>>> Our aim is to have not only a valuable resource tool, but also a >>>> wonderful read ready for the public sometime in 2006, although at times >>>> this seems most unrealistic!!! >>>> >>>> We shall look forward to the rush of emails, however please understand >>>> our task is enormous and we have not yet tackled all those on our list. >>>> To that end, we cannot guarantee at present that we hold that vital >>>> piece of information you may have been looking for. >>>> >>>> Denise & Chris >>>> aka The Dynamic Duo....!!(g) >>>> >>> >> >> > >

Hi All, I and others have searched high and low for a death entry for an Ann GEDGE (nee BROOKMAN) b. England, possibly Middlesex county, 1813/1814 - father's name Henry and she married David Baleham GEDGE, London in 1841. Ann was still alive and living near Buninyong, Vic. in 1863. I would be most grateful if someone came up with her death entry. I should mention Ann had 7 children betw. 1843 and 1858 - David, William Benjamin, George, Sarah Ann, James Robert, Joseph and Catherine Jane (born in 1858, Durham Lead, Vic.) Thank you. Cheers Anne Hanson [email protected]