The email in question that l sent to the mailing list was originally from Dianne Carroll, list administrator of High Country. I thought it was worthwhile putting to the other Australian mailing list that l'm on l feel we should all see what is happening , If you wanted to become involved in it ,that it your decision. no-one can tell you to join in or not. If l have offended anyone by passing this email on then l'm sorry. Kerry in Cranbourne

Details sent in attachment off list ....... Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: [AVNE] Yarrawonga > Does anyone know of a book written on the above town? I am interested in the timeframe from about 1870-1900. >

Does anyone know of a book written on the above town? I am interested in the timeframe from about 1870-1900. regards Denise

-------Original Message------- From: [email protected] Date: 05/31/05 12:36:28 To: [email protected] Subject: [HC] Important notice to this interested in our High Countries History CIRCULAR TO ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN PUBLIC LAND ISSUES The Cattlemen would appreciate supporters coming down in their bush gear to support the rally. They have had very strong support from a cross section of public land user groups, please pass this message and press release on to every one interested in public lands issues. Regards Graeme Stoney The Hon Graeme Stoney MLC Member for Central Highlands Province Liberal Spokesperson for Forestry Upper House Opposition Whip Ph: 5775 1929 Fx: 5775 2923 31 May 2005 ENOUGH'S ENOUGH THE COUNTRY VOICE RALLY CATTLEMEN TO RALLY AGAINST GOVERNMENT BETRAYAL The Mountain Cattlemen, with the support of a number of associated country groups, will hold a rally on Thursday June 9 at noon on the steps of Parliament House in Melbourne, to put forward a united country voice against the end of alpine grazing. The horses will be departing the Olympic Park precinct at 11am, and will be met by a guard of honour at Parliament House at 11.30am. Last week, the State Government announced its decision to remove cattlemen from the Alpine National Park, effectively erasing 170 years of history. This is despite earlier promises that cattle grazing would remain a legitimate activity in the national park. "This is nothing short of a kick in the guts," according to Chris Stoney, a third-generation cattleman and spokesman for Country Voice, the group representing the cattlemen. "For two years, we have cooperated with the Government only to find that it had planned to do us over all along. It is a decision driven purely by ideology and a hunger for Green preferences at the next state election, and has nothing to do with sound and sustainable land management," Mr Stoney said. "The compensation package promised by the Government is insulting to affected families, most of whom will receive less than half the speculated $100,000 the government would have us believe. "After the decision was announced, the Government has undertaken a costly PR and advertising campaign to justify its actions, including hollow promises that cattlemen can move to forest leases, when that is simply not the case. The so-called 10,000 cattle to be retained in state forests is a practical nonsense for most families, as the areas are directly adjacent to National Parks with only an invisible border between the two. "This deception reflects the Government's dismissive and arrogant attitude towards country Victorians," Mr. Stoney said. Hundreds will arrive in Melbourne on horseback to attend the rally, which will be addressed by political leaders and a host of celebrity supporters. The star of "The Man From Snowy River", Tom Burlinson, who is unable to attend the rally due to work commitments, has lent his support to the Country Voice campaign. "The bush belongs to all Australians, and the High Country holds a special place in the hearts of people across the country and around the world," Mr Burlinson said. Country Voice has invited Victorians to march with them in expressing their opposition to a decision that seriously undermines Victoria's proud rural heritage. "This should be a warning for all country Victorians that this Government does not have their interests at heart. We fear this is only the thin end of the wedge," Mr Stoney said. "One by one, it is picking us off. The only way to tell this Government to pull its head in is to vote with our feet. United, we can stop it." ends Contacts: Media & interviews, including Tom Burlinson, call 0417 503 000 Chris Stoney (direct), 0417 503 528 Source: Cattlemen Headline: Media Release: Cattlemen * Email automatically generated for Profile "Alpine Grazing" **************************************************************************** ** This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you receive this email in error, please delete it immediately. This email may contain information which is confidential and/or legally privileged. You must not use or disclose the contents of this email, or add the sender's email address to any database, list or mailing list unless you are expressly authorised to do so. The statements or views expressed in this email are those of the individual sender and are not those of Australian Associated Press Pty Ltd (AAP). These statements are not binding on AAP, except where the sender expressly and with authority, states them to be. AAP is unable to review the contents of all the email on its system. To the extent permitted by law, AAP disclaims all liability for any loss or damage caused by the contents of this email. **************************************************************************** **

I am hoping someone has access to data on Wangaratta. A John GARDEN died there in 1868. I don't have much on him at all, he was a Solicitor, arrived in Victoria in 1852, spent about the first 10 years in Melbourne area. I have checked Wangaratta by Whittaker, and I have the burial data of the Wang. Cemetery. HE married Jane BRAGGS who I believed stayed in Wangaratta district. regards Denise

Hi everyone, I'm looking for information or descendants of Robert Hazen - died Yarrawonga 1893. I have found an overseas relation and happy to pass along anyone who may connect. regards Denise

Hi, If anyone on this mailing list is researching: Edward Samspon Steele Bylands Hugh Sinclair, Storekeeper, Wallan Wallan William Lehastance, Wallan Wallan Adam Dodd, Hill Tap, Longwood John Ratcliffe - Farmer Bylands Henry Barber, Landholder Patrick Laffy, Wallan I have copies of a letter written by each of them in their own handwriting re an 1863 appeal for clemency. If you would like a copy then please contact me. Cheers Anne Hanson [email protected]

Hi, I am looking for information on SMYTH Charles Alexander b. Abt. 1829; d. 1908-Armadale, Vic. and whose spouse was JACKSON Arabella b. Abt. 1833; d. 1891-Armadale, Vic. I believe this couple had the following children: SMYTH Nelson Charles b. 1861-Fitzroy, Vic. Aust. SMYTH Un-named b. 1862-Fitzroy, Vic. Aust. SMYTH Frederic b. 1864-Toorak, Vic. Aust. SMYTH Un-named b. 1866-Toorak, Vic. Aust. SMYTH Caroline Florence b. 1868-Toorak, Vic. Aust. SMYTH Henry James Claude b. 1872-Toorak, Vic. Aust. I am looking for a bio on Charles Alexander SMYTH as he was the crown prosecutor of an 1863 murder trial held at Beechworth. He was also the prosecutor involved in the 1880 Ned Kelly trial. Am looking for on line information or the names of books I can read which may give me some information into this man's life. Cheers and thanks. Anne Hanson [email protected]

Hello Listers, Am looking for any one who has connections to the name McCoughtry. If you do, please email me at me address as listed below. Thanks Kerry in Cranbourne [email protected]

Hello Jenny Thx so much for your help in the Wickham family and for the clarification of Eileen Mapley. Mapley seemed to originate in New Norfolk, Tasmania which lead to this assumption of Allan being husband. Do you by any chance know of any Wickham descendants that would be interested in receiving their ancestral tree. This branch is part of many extensive trees in Tasmania already researched. Once again thank you for confirming the Wickham names. Much obliged Kind regards Rosalie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grenville R. Younger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [AVNE] Wangaratta Cemetery > Eileen May Mapley's husband was not Allan Ray Mapley [1906 -1973]. You must very careful here.. as there are people relative to this family still alive. > > > > > > [email protected] wrote: > Hi Rosalie, > From the burial register: > > Wickham, Clare Alice E. 89;3 September 1990; Wangaratta;Lawn;A; 46 > Wickham, Ernest.68; 8 December 1971; Wangaratta; Lawn; A; 46 > Wickham, Royd.52; 15 November 1985; Wangaratta; Lawn;E1; 25 > Wickham, Thomas Joseph.56;17 August 1976; Katandra; Lawn; J;70 > > From headstone transcriptions: > > WICKHAM, CLARA ALICE EILEEN.~ Age 89 YEARS; Died 30/08/1990; Buried > 3/09/1990; Resided at ST. CATHERINE'S HOSTEL, WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; > Plot A 46. > WICKHAM, ERNEST.~ Age 68 YEARS; Died 6/12/1971; Buried 8/12/1971; > Resided > at 15 HAMILTON CR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot A 46. > > Inscription: > IN LOVING MEMORY OF ERNEST WICKHAM > PASSED AWAY 6.12.71 AGED 68YRS. ALSO > HIS WIFE CLARA ALICE WICKHAM PASSED > AWAY 30.8.90 AGED 89YRS. MUM & DAD > REUNITED R.I.P. > > WICKHAM, ROYD.~ Age 52 YEARS; Died 12/11/1985; Buried 15/11/1985; > Resided > at 4 SUNSET DR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN E; Plot ROW 1 NO.25. > Inscription: > WICKHAM - IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROYD > 26.9.1933 - 12.11.1985 BELOVED > HUSBAND OF LORRAINE, DEVOTED DAD OF > RHONDA AND KENNETH, LOVED POPPY OF > THE GRANDCHILDREN. LOVED AND > REMEMBERED ALWAYS. > > WICKHAM, THOMAS JOSEPH.~ Age 56 YEARS; Died 14/08/1976; Buried > 17/08/1976; > Resided at KATANDRA; Section LAWN; Plot J 70. > Inscription: > THOMAS JOSEPH WICKHAM PASSED AWAY > 14.8.76 AGED 50YRS. BELOVED HUSBAND > OF ESTHER, DEAR FATHER OF KIM, > LYNETTE, PETER & MICHAEL. > > > > best wishes, > > Jenny Coates > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rosalie > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:00:25 +1000 > Subject: [AVNE] Wangaratta Cemetery > > Hello Listers > > Would anyone have access to the cemetery records for Wangaratta > or have these people in their database? > > I have a branch of family that left Tasmania and settled in Vic. > There deaths are registered at Wangaratta. > > They are: Ernest Wickham b 1903 d 1971 > Clara Alice Wickham d? > > Ernest Edward b 30 Apr 1922 d? > > Royd Wickham d 1985 > > Eileen May Mapley (nee Wickham) b 13 Jun 1924 d1974 > Allan Ray Mapley (husband?) bc1906 d 1973 > > Any help much appreciated. > Thks in advance > Rosalie Ryan > > > > > > > Mobile: 0439 436192 > P.O. Box 541, ALBURY. 2640 > > - ------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online? >

Hello Susie, The name 'Carlton Park' comes from correspondence written by Edward S. Steele himself which I have in my possession. The address written in top right hand corner of the said correspondence is Carlton Park, Bylands and the letter is signed Edw. S. Steele. Anyhow thank you for the information below. I will definitely follow it up. Anne Hanson -----Original Message----- From: Susie Zada [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2005 6:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AVNE] General Enquiry - Carlton Park, Bylands Hello Anne, Where did you get the name Carlton Park? Edward Sampson STEELE purchased a property in 1856 called Calton Hill - could this be the one you're after? I think the nearest "town" to Calton Hill is Wallan - STEELE was listed in directories for 1868, 69 and 70 at Wallan Wallan. There are references to both Calton Hill and Edward Sampson STEELE in ... "Pretty Sally's Hill: A History of Wallan, Wandong & Bylands" by J W Payne. I know that the Kilmore Historical Society sell copies of this book. Contact them and check. http://www.kilmorehistory.info/ Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: [AVNE] General Enquiry - Carlton Park, Bylands > Hi All, > > I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of where I can > find information about a property called Carlton Park at Bylands owned by > Edward S. Steele around 1853 - 1860. > > Many thanks. > > > Anne Hanson > [email protected] > >

Hello Listers Would anyone have access to the cemetery records for Wangaratta or have these people in their database? I have a branch of family that left Tasmania and settled in Vic. There deaths are registered at Wangaratta. They are: Ernest Wickham b 1903 d 1971 Clara Alice Wickham d? Ernest Edward b 30 Apr 1922 d? Royd Wickham d 1985 Eileen May Mapley (nee Wickham) b 13 Jun 1924 d1974 Allan Ray Mapley (husband?) bc1906 d 1973 Any help much appreciated. Thks in advance Rosalie Ryan

Eileen May Mapley's husband was not Allan Ray Mapley [1906 -1973]. You must very careful here.. as there are people relative to this family still alive. [email protected] wrote: Hi Rosalie, From the burial register: Wickham, Clare Alice E. 89;3 September 1990; Wangaratta;Lawn;A; 46 Wickham, Ernest.68; 8 December 1971; Wangaratta; Lawn; A; 46 Wickham, Royd.52; 15 November 1985; Wangaratta; Lawn;E1; 25 Wickham, Thomas Joseph.56;17 August 1976; Katandra; Lawn; J;70 From headstone transcriptions: WICKHAM, CLARA ALICE EILEEN.~ Age 89 YEARS; Died 30/08/1990; Buried 3/09/1990; Resided at ST. CATHERINE'S HOSTEL, WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot A 46. WICKHAM, ERNEST.~ Age 68 YEARS; Died 6/12/1971; Buried 8/12/1971; Resided at 15 HAMILTON CR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot A 46. Inscription: IN LOVING MEMORY OF ERNEST WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 6.12.71 AGED 68YRS. ALSO HIS WIFE CLARA ALICE WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 30.8.90 AGED 89YRS. MUM & DAD REUNITED R.I.P. WICKHAM, ROYD.~ Age 52 YEARS; Died 12/11/1985; Buried 15/11/1985; Resided at 4 SUNSET DR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN E; Plot ROW 1 NO.25. Inscription: WICKHAM - IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROYD 26.9.1933 - 12.11.1985 BELOVED HUSBAND OF LORRAINE, DEVOTED DAD OF RHONDA AND KENNETH, LOVED POPPY OF THE GRANDCHILDREN. LOVED AND REMEMBERED ALWAYS. WICKHAM, THOMAS JOSEPH.~ Age 56 YEARS; Died 14/08/1976; Buried 17/08/1976; Resided at KATANDRA; Section LAWN; Plot J 70. Inscription: THOMAS JOSEPH WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 14.8.76 AGED 50YRS. BELOVED HUSBAND OF ESTHER, DEAR FATHER OF KIM, LYNETTE, PETER & MICHAEL. best wishes, Jenny Coates -----Original Message----- From: Rosalie To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:00:25 +1000 Subject: [AVNE] Wangaratta Cemetery Hello Listers Would anyone have access to the cemetery records for Wangaratta or have these people in their database? I have a branch of family that left Tasmania and settled in Vic. There deaths are registered at Wangaratta. They are: Ernest Wickham b 1903 d 1971 Clara Alice Wickham d? Ernest Edward b 30 Apr 1922 d? Royd Wickham d 1985 Eileen May Mapley (nee Wickham) b 13 Jun 1924 d1974 Allan Ray Mapley (husband?) bc1906 d 1973 Any help much appreciated. Thks in advance Rosalie Ryan Mobile: 0439 436192 P.O. Box 541, ALBURY. 2640 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - want a free & easy way to contact your friends online?

Rosalie, Mapley, Eileen May.50; 3 January 1974;Wangaratta;Lawn;G;63 Mapley, Gwenneth. 62; 5 January 1995; Resided Eurobin; Plaque Lawn;RowC1;Plot 38 MAPLEY, EILEEN MAY.~ Age 50 YEARS; Died 31/12/1973; Buried 3/01/1974; Resided at 20 WILLS ST. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot G 63. Inscription: IN LOVING MEMORY OF MY WIFE EILEEN MAY MAPLEY PASSED AWAY 31.12.73 AGED 49YRS. IN GOD'S CARE. MAPLEY, GWENNETH LORRAINE (GWEN).~ Age 62 YEARS; Died 29/12/1994; Buried 5/01/1995; Resided at WANGARATTA; Section LAWN PLAQUE C; Plot ROW 1 NO.38. Inscription: MAPLEY - GWENNETH LORRAINE 1932-1994 LOVED WIFE OF DENNIS. AT REST. Comment: 1. NEE WELLS 2.DIED AT EUROBIN 3.FUNERAL 10.30AM HOLY TRINITY CATHEDRAL WANGARATTA. Jenny

Hi Rosalie, From the burial register: Wickham, Clare Alice E. 89;3 September 1990; Wangaratta;Lawn;A; 46 Wickham, Ernest.68; 8 December 1971; Wangaratta; Lawn; A; 46 Wickham, Royd.52; 15 November 1985; Wangaratta; Lawn;E1; 25 Wickham, Thomas Joseph.56;17 August 1976; Katandra; Lawn; J;70 From headstone transcriptions: WICKHAM, CLARA ALICE EILEEN.~ Age 89 YEARS; Died 30/08/1990; Buried 3/09/1990; Resided at ST. CATHERINE'S HOSTEL, WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot A 46. WICKHAM, ERNEST.~ Age 68 YEARS; Died 6/12/1971; Buried 8/12/1971; Resided at 15 HAMILTON CR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN; Plot A 46. Inscription: IN LOVING MEMORY OF ERNEST WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 6.12.71 AGED 68YRS. ALSO HIS WIFE CLARA ALICE WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 30.8.90 AGED 89YRS. MUM & DAD REUNITED R.I.P. WICKHAM, ROYD.~ Age 52 YEARS; Died 12/11/1985; Buried 15/11/1985; Resided at 4 SUNSET DR. WANGARATTA; Section LAWN E; Plot ROW 1 NO.25. Inscription: WICKHAM - IN LOVING MEMORY OF ROYD 26.9.1933 - 12.11.1985 BELOVED HUSBAND OF LORRAINE, DEVOTED DAD OF RHONDA AND KENNETH, LOVED POPPY OF THE GRANDCHILDREN. LOVED AND REMEMBERED ALWAYS. WICKHAM, THOMAS JOSEPH.~ Age 56 YEARS; Died 14/08/1976; Buried 17/08/1976; Resided at KATANDRA; Section LAWN; Plot J 70. Inscription: THOMAS JOSEPH WICKHAM PASSED AWAY 14.8.76 AGED 50YRS. BELOVED HUSBAND OF ESTHER, DEAR FATHER OF KIM, LYNETTE, PETER & MICHAEL. best wishes, Jenny Coates -----Original Message----- From: Rosalie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:00:25 +1000 Subject: [AVNE] Wangaratta Cemetery Hello Listers Would anyone have access to the cemetery records for Wangaratta or have these people in their database? I have a branch of family that left Tasmania and settled in Vic. There deaths are registered at Wangaratta. They are: Ernest Wickham b 1903 d 1971 Clara Alice Wickham d? Ernest Edward b 30 Apr 1922 d? Royd Wickham d 1985 Eileen May Mapley (nee Wickham) b 13 Jun 1924 d1974 Allan Ray Mapley (husband?) bc1906 d 1973 Any help much appreciated. Thks in advance Rosalie Ryan

As early as 1859 J A Bevan & Co. (if this the same one as you are after) ran in conjunction with Watson & Hewitt and Crawford & Co. from Albury to Melbourne , under the banner of The Telegraph Line of Mail Coaches - which originally was a part of Cobb & Co. Anne what was the name of the employee you write about. I suggest the best thing would be to start with the local newspapers or the Melbourne papers. In these if you find advertisements, you will get the routes fares and if lucky, you may find the mail contracts if the company won any - mail contracts also in the Gov. Gazette. Look at early in the year to start with. They were usually a yearly contract but from 1881 it went to a three yearly contract. regards Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: [AVNE] General Enquiry - Bevan & Co. > Hi Fellow Listers, > > I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of where I can > find information about Bevan & Co., who operated a coach company similar > to > Cobb & Co. In 1863 one of their runs was from Mansfield to Jamieson. > > 'm looking for anything and everything on this company as one of their > employees came to a very sticky end in 1863. > > Thanks. > > Anne Hanson > [email protected]

Hello Anne, Where did you get the name Carlton Park? Edward Sampson STEELE purchased a property in 1856 called Calton Hill - could this be the one you're after? I think the nearest "town" to Calton Hill is Wallan - STEELE was listed in directories for 1868, 69 and 70 at Wallan Wallan. There are references to both Calton Hill and Edward Sampson STEELE in ... "Pretty Sally's Hill: A History of Wallan, Wandong & Bylands" by J W Payne. I know that the Kilmore Historical Society sell copies of this book. Contact them and check. http://www.kilmorehistory.info/ Regards ........ Susie Z ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: [AVNE] General Enquiry - Carlton Park, Bylands > Hi All, > > I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of where I can > find information about a property called Carlton Park at Bylands owned by > Edward S. Steele around 1853 - 1860. > > Many thanks. > > > Anne Hanson > [email protected] > >

Hi All, I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of where I can find information about a property called Carlton Park at Bylands owned by Edward S. Steele around 1853 - 1860. Many thanks. Anne Hanson [email protected]

Hi Fellow Listers, I'd be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of where I can find information about Bevan & Co., who operated a coach company similar to Cobb & Co. In 1863 one of their runs was from Mansfield to Jamieson. 'm looking for anything and everything on this company as one of their employees came to a very sticky end in 1863. Thanks. Anne Hanson [email protected]

John, Unfortunately am not able to state where Patrick and Bridget married. This information is not supplied on Pioneer cd, but I do hope the following is of some help regarding their children.. Mary Ann Bridget KELLY Born: 1874 Place: Melbourne North, Victoria Ref: 17144 Edmund Thomas KELLY Born: 1876 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Ref: 21155 Edward Thomas KELLY Died: 1882 Place: Melbourne South, Victoria Aged: 6 years Ref: 6152 John James KELLY Born: 1879 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Ref: 7250 Patrick Joseph KELLY Born: 1881 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Ref: 732 Margaret Teresa KELLY Born: 1883 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Ref: 679 Catherine Ellen KELLY Born: 1883 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Ref: 680 Died: ;1883 Place: Box Hill, Victoria Aged: 8 months Ref: 10269 Elayne Melbourne. Jon Patrick wrote: >Dear List, >I would be most grateful if someone could do a search for a marriage of >PAtrick KELLY and Bridget EGAN 27th MAy 1871 for a location and, any >information on their children: John James KELLY and Mary Ann KELLY and any >other siblings they might have. > >Other members of the same family I am trying to find are: >Pat's sister, Mary Kelly who married an O'Brien in Australia and supposedly >had children there, and >his other sister Margaret Kelly who married a fellow named Jones and had 9 >children. No first names for either husband. >thanks > >